Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-26 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

  * Changed Macro names mustn't contain numbers!
intoMacro names cannot contain numbers!
 
 What is the difference between mustn't and may not/cannot?
 Mustn't = may not, or am I wrong?

The reason I didn't like 'Mustn't' is that it sounds too much like spoken
language, i.e. slang.

As for the semantic difference of 'may not', 'cannot' and 'must not', you
need to ask someone with a more conscious knowledge of English grammar :-(
I used to know this stuff, but that was well over a decade ago.

We should let the natives decide this --- any natives out there? ;-)

  * Added this to the preamble:
  % Set nicer fonts for PDF-output
  \usepackage[scaled=0.92]{helvet}
  \usepackage{mathptmx}
  \usepackage{courier}
 so that the PDF file's fonts don't look crappy
 
 I can't compile the doc when I use
 \usepackage{mathptmx}
 some tfm fonts couldn't be loaded, probably due to
 the table in chapter 6.6.3.
 Has anybody the same problem?

I get a warning:

dvips: Warning: missing glyph `dotlessj'

when I do View-PDF and use 'mathptmx', but that's all.

 Another way is to use ae in Layout-Document-Layout-Font

Or times (which also gives 'missing ... dotlessj'. But Herbert keeps
saying these options are depreceated. OTOH, what he recommends is maybe
not available on all systems...

 but then we have to hack to get the characters in table (chapter 6.6.3) 
 displayed.
 
 BTW. I've installed ghostview 4.5 and it doesn't look pixeld.

The PDF output looks ok when you use ghostview 3.5.8 as well, but not 
when you use Acroread... then it's crappy regardless if I use 
View-PDF, View-PDF (dvipdfm) or View-PDF (pdflatex).

I'm using tetex 2.02 and ghostscript 8.00.

 
  * Added this to the preamble:
  
  % Use roman page number in general, but
  % arabic numbers up until the TOC
  % In addition, add a PDF bookmark for the TOC
  \pagenumbering{roman}
  \let\myTOC\tableofcontents
  \renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
  %\hypertarget{Inhalt}{}
  \pdfbookmark[1]{Contents}{TOC}
  \myTOC
  \clearpage
  \pagenumbering{arabic}
  }
 so that we get the roman/arabic page numbering (I like it! ;-)
 
 I corrected it:
 
 % the pages of the TOC are numbered roman
 % and a PDF bookmark for the TOC is added
 \pagenumbering{Roman}
 \let\myTOC\tableofcontents
 \renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
   \pdfbookmark[1]{Contents}{}
   \myTOC
   \clearpage
   \pagenumbering{arabic}  }
 
 - use big roman numbers: 'Roman' instead of 'roman'
Ok

Question: Should we add a list of tables and a list of figures? I'm 
guessing there aren't many figures, but maybe there are some tables?

  * Change URLs mustn't end with a backslash! into
   URLs may not end with a backslash!
 
 See my question above.

Same answer.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-26 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 Acroread 5.x is very buggy. The font display for bitmap fonts is fixed 
 in Acroread 6.x, which is available for Windows since 9 Months. But 
 there is no Linux version, I don't know why.

They've got an evil compact with Micro$oft? Anyway, even if 6.x was 
available for Linux etc, I don't think we could expect all (or even most 
users) to upgrade their versions just like that...

But, IIRC, aren't the fonts bad even if you use e.g. xpdf?

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-26 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

> > * Changed "Macro names mustn't contain numbers!"
> >   into"Macro names cannot contain numbers!"
> 
> What is the difference between mustn't and may not/cannot?
> Mustn't = may not, or am I wrong?

The reason I didn't like 'Mustn't' is that it sounds too much like spoken
language, i.e. slang.

As for the semantic difference of 'may not', 'cannot' and 'must not', you
need to ask someone with a more conscious knowledge of English grammar :-(
I used to know this stuff, but that was well over a decade ago.

We should let the "natives" decide this --- any natives out there? ;-)

> > * Added this to the preamble:
> > % Set nicer fonts for PDF-output
> > \usepackage[scaled=0.92]{helvet}
> > \usepackage{mathptmx}
> > \usepackage{courier}
> >so that the PDF file's fonts don't look crappy
> 
> I can't compile the doc when I use
> \usepackage{mathptmx}
> some tfm fonts couldn't be loaded, probably due to
> the table in chapter 6.6.3.
> Has anybody the same problem?

I get a warning:

dvips: Warning: missing glyph `dotlessj'

when I do View->PDF and use 'mathptmx', but that's all.

> Another way is to use ae in Layout->Document->Layout->Font

Or times (which also gives 'missing ... dotlessj'. But Herbert keeps
saying these options are depreceated. OTOH, what he recommends is maybe
not available on all systems...

> but then we have to hack to get the characters in table (chapter 6.6.3) 
> displayed.
> 
> BTW. I've installed ghostview 4.5 and it doesn't look pixeld.

The PDF output looks ok when you use ghostview 3.5.8 as well, but not 
when you use Acroread... then it's crappy regardless if I use 
View-PDF, View->PDF (dvipdfm) or View->PDF (pdflatex).

I'm using tetex 2.02 and ghostscript 8.00.

> 
> > * Added this to the preamble:
> > 
> > % Use roman page number in general, but
> > % arabic numbers up until the TOC
> > % In addition, add a PDF bookmark for the TOC
> > \pagenumbering{roman}
> > \let\myTOC\tableofcontents
> > \renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
> > %\hypertarget{Inhalt}{}
> > \pdfbookmark[1]{Contents}{TOC}
> > \myTOC
> > \clearpage
> > \pagenumbering{arabic}
> > }
> >so that we get the roman/arabic page numbering (I like it! ;-)
> 
> I corrected it:
> 
> % the pages of the TOC are numbered roman
> % and a PDF bookmark for the TOC is added
> \pagenumbering{Roman}
> \let\myTOC\tableofcontents
> \renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
>   \pdfbookmark[1]{Contents}{}
>   \myTOC
>   \clearpage
>   \pagenumbering{arabic}  }
> 
> - use big roman numbers: 'Roman' instead of 'roman'
Ok

Question: Should we add a list of tables and a list of figures? I'm 
guessing there aren't many figures, but maybe there are some tables?

> > * Change "URLs mustn't end with a backslash!" into
> >  "URLs may not end with a backslash!"
> 
> See my question above.

Same answer.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-26 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

> Acroread 5.x is very buggy. The font display for bitmap fonts is fixed 
> in Acroread 6.x, which is available for Windows since 9 Months. But 
> there is no Linux version, I don't know why.

They've got an evil compact with Micro$oft? Anyway, even if 6.x was 
available for Linux etc, I don't think we could expect all (or even most 
users) to upgrade their versions just like that...

But, IIRC, aren't the fonts bad even if you use e.g. xpdf?

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Uwe == Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Uwe I also added some comments to Christians Userguide-discussion
Uwe page: http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/DevelDoc/UserGuide

Uwe, something I forgot to ask about: are you using the 1.3.x or
1.4.0cvs version of the UserGuide? These two documents live on a
different branch of cvs and all changes done to the 1.3.x docs will
have to be redone for 1.4.0.

JMarc


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-25 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, [UTF-8] Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 I also added some comments to Christians Userguide-discussion page:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/DevelDoc/UserGuide

I redid some changes to your ...A4PDFv2.lyx and uploaded the result to:
   http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/DevelDoc/UserGuide/UserGuideA4PDFv2_chr.lyx

I've added detailed comments to the wiki page, but in essence:

* Added option idxtotoc (index to TOC), in case an index will ever
  be added to the UG

* Removed 'page break' command after the TOC (it shouldn't be necessary)

* Added short title to 3.4.5.3
  Example #3: Labels, Levels and other list environments

* Another try at new sentence in 4.3 abt. figure transformation and
  the table caption

* Macro names may not contain numbers!

* Added code to the preamble that produces roman numbering for the first 
  pages, and then arabic numbering. (from Herbert's answer)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb:
Uwe I also added some comments to Christians Userguide-discussion
Uwe page: http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/DevelDoc/UserGuide
Uwe, something I forgot to ask about: are you using the 1.3.x or
1.4.0cvs version of the UserGuide? These two documents live on a
different branch of cvs and all changes done to the 1.3.x docs will
have to be redone for 1.4.0.
I used this one:

http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/lyxdoc/UserGuide.lyx?rev=HEADcontent-type=text/plain

I thought this is the newest one.

regards Uwe


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Christian Ridderström schrieb:
I also added some comments to Christians Userguide-discussion page:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/DevelDoc/UserGuide


I redid some changes to your ...A4PDFv2.lyx and uploaded the result to:
   http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/DevelDoc/UserGuide/UserGuideA4PDFv2_chr.lyx
I've added detailed comments to the wiki page, but in essence:

* Added option idxtotoc (index to TOC), in case an index will ever
  be added to the UG
* Removed 'page break' command after the TOC (it shouldn't be necessary)

* Added short title to 3.4.5.3
  Example #3: Labels, Levels and other list environments
* Another try at new sentence in 4.3 abt. figure transformation and
  the table caption
* Macro names may not contain numbers!

* Added code to the preamble that produces roman numbering for the first 
  pages, and then arabic numbering. (from Herbert's answer)
I agree with you in all comments, but I'm not sure if the roman numering 
is really necessary. idxtotoc could also be added when it is needed.

As you are working on it, you can remove the following from the preamble:

 % widens the vertical table spacing
 \renewcommand{\arraystretch}{1.25}
 % set the separation of table columns
 \setlength{\tabcolsep}{0.45em}
I mean that this is not necessary.

And you could delete:

% assure that the correct language is used
\usepackage[english]{babel}
That is not needed. I've overseen that.

Thanks for your help

regards Uwe


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Uwe == Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Uwe I used this one:

Uwe 
http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/lyxdoc/UserGuide.lyx?rev=HEADcontent-type=text/plain

Uwe I thought this is the newest one.

Yes, it is the newest one, in the sense that it has been adapted for
1.4.0. This is a wise choice.

If we want at least some of your changes to appear in 1.3.5, you will
have to backport them.

JMarc


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-25 Thread Mike Ressler
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 08:58, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
 Lior Silberman schrieb:
  In the US at least, 'letter' is the standard paper size. I think England
  uses A4. IIRC 'legal' pages have the same width as 'letter', but are much
  longer.

legal is 8.5 x 14 inches, IIRC.

 Seems that the ISO sizes are going to be the world standard.
 Astonishing why the USA doesn't adopt it. (That's the same with the 
 units: All over the world they use the metric system (invented by the 
 french), except of the USA.)
 Has anybody an explanation for this?

Money. In a ruthlessly capitalistic society, money is the final decision
maker. We don't deal well with rules handed down from on high; if it
costs us something to change, we rebel. I really wish we had forced it
through when converting to metric was first proposed 30 years ago. As I
scientist, I can think well in both systems (except for temperature - I
still have to convert Celsius to Fahrenheit in my head to decide if it
is cold outside :-), but it is sad that we are still stuck in Imperial
units.

As for your actual rewrite of the User Guide, I haven't had a chance to
read it yet :-), but it sounds like you are moving in a good direction.
I'll try to review it later today.

The very American ...
Mike

P.S. Since centimeters are the metric equivalent of inches, and
kilograms the equivalent of pounds, just remember that football is the
metric term for soccer.


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
 The file prints fine.

Good news.

 Other quibbles:

 1. The note up front: translate 'oder' to 'or'.
Done.

 2. sec 3.3.4.3, table: the word 'add' is sometimes in the default
 font, sometimes marked 'Sans Serif'.
All 'add' are sans serif now.

 3. sec 3.3.4.4, second *: it's _displayed_ math that doesn't work in a
 section heading. Inline math is fine.
Rendered more precisely.

 4. sec 3.3.6.2, second-to-last paragraph: the ERT \linebreak seemes
 unneccesary. If it's needed, replace with 'C-Return'.
\linebreak is not C-Return (\newline).
I added these commands to avoid 'overfull \hbox'-warnings.
(BTW LyX should support \linebreak. I'll open an enhancement in bugzilla.)
 5. 3.4.1, discussion of keybindings: do consider a footnote reminding
 R-To-L users that S-M-Left, S-M-Right decrease and increase the
 nesting level respectively, regardless of the direction of the
 paragraph!
This confuses me. The text doesn't say that S-M-Left or S-M-Right 
depends on the direction. How did you came on this idea?
Anyway I corrected the menu name from 'Increase List Depth' to 'Increase 
Environment Depth'.

 6. 3.4.2, Unnestable: Part* and Chapter* in 'default' rather than
 'Sans Serif' font.
They are 'Sans Serif' now.

 7. 5.7.2, example: this should use '\cases' rather than a 2x2 matrix.

Then you have to use AMS-LaTeX. The userguide never used this.
I wrote an extra documentation, that explains it:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/LyXMathebefehle
(still in german, but I'll translate it sometime)
 [independently, does '\cases' deserve its own subsection?]

No.

Here the corrected version of UserguidePDF:

http://fkurth.de/uwest/LyX/userguide/
or
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/UserGuidePDF.lyx
regards Uwe



Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-25 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 Here the corrected version of UserguidePDF:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/UserGuidePDF.lyx

Well, here we go again :-)

I took your version and did the following:

* Changed Macro names mustn't contain numbers!
  intoMacro names cannot contain numbers!

* Added this to the preamble:
% Set nicer fonts for PDF-output
\usepackage[scaled=0.92]{helvet}
\usepackage{mathptmx}
\usepackage{courier}
   so that the PDF file's fonts don't look crappy

* Added this to the preamble:

% Use roman page number in general, but
% arabic numbers up until the TOC
% In addition, add a PDF bookmark for the TOC
\pagenumbering{roman}
\let\myTOC\tableofcontents
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
%\hypertarget{Inhalt}{}
\pdfbookmark[1]{Contents}{TOC}
\myTOC
\clearpage
\pagenumbering{arabic}
}
   so that we get the roman/arabic page numbering (I like it! ;-)

* Changed These package should... into This package should... in the 
  note in the beginning.

* Change URLs mustn't end with a backslash! into
 URLs may not end with a backslash!

and I've uploaded this file as:
   http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/DevelDoc/UserGuide/UserGuidePDF_chr.lyx

enjoy

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-25 Thread Angus Leeming
Christian Ridderström wrote:

This section is now a little out of date: graphics will now fit on the 
lyx screen; the user can set the size of the screen image independent 
of its size in the exported document.

1.2.2 How LYX Looks
...
There are three cases where you might want a horizontal scrollbar. The 
first case is large figures, displayed WYSIWYG. This, however, is due 
to a flaw in the routine that displays graphics on the LYX screen in 
a WYSIWYG fashion; it should rescale the graphics to fit in the 
window, just as you d need to rescale graphics to fit on a page. The 
second and third cases are tables and equations which are wider than 
the LYX window. You can use the arrow keys to scroll horizontally 
through the table, but this doesn t work for equations yet.

-- 
Angus



Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Well, here we go again :-)

I took your version and did the following:

* Changed Macro names mustn't contain numbers!
  intoMacro names cannot contain numbers!
What is the difference between mustn't and may not/cannot?
Mustn't = may not, or am I wrong?
* Added this to the preamble:
% Set nicer fonts for PDF-output
\usepackage[scaled=0.92]{helvet}
\usepackage{mathptmx}
\usepackage{courier}
   so that the PDF file's fonts don't look crappy
I can't compile the doc when I use
\usepackage{mathptmx}
some tfm fonts couldn't be loaded, probably due to
the table in chapter 6.6.3.
Has anybody the same problem?
Another way is to use ae in Layout-Document-Layout-Font
but then we have to hack to get the characters in table (chapter 6.6.3) 
displayed.

BTW. I've installed ghostview 4.5 and it doesn't look pixeld.

* Added this to the preamble:

% Use roman page number in general, but
% arabic numbers up until the TOC
% In addition, add a PDF bookmark for the TOC
\pagenumbering{roman}
\let\myTOC\tableofcontents
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
%\hypertarget{Inhalt}{}
\pdfbookmark[1]{Contents}{TOC}
\myTOC
\clearpage
\pagenumbering{arabic}
}
   so that we get the roman/arabic page numbering (I like it! ;-)
I corrected it:

% the pages of the TOC are numbered roman
% and a PDF bookmark for the TOC is added
\pagenumbering{Roman}
\let\myTOC\tableofcontents
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
 \pdfbookmark[1]{Contents}{}
 \myTOC
 \clearpage
 \pagenumbering{arabic} }
- use big roman numbers: 'Roman' instead of 'roman'
- the \hypertarget command is not really necessary in this case, my
  fault.
* Changed These package should... into This package should... in the 
  note in the beginning.
My fault.

* Change URLs mustn't end with a backslash! into
 URLs may not end with a backslash!
See my question above.

I also added some space in the formula in chapter 5.3.

regards Uwe


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Uwe> I also added some comments to Christians Userguide-discussion
Uwe> page: http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/DevelDoc/UserGuide

Uwe, something I forgot to ask about: are you using the 1.3.x or
1.4.0cvs version of the UserGuide? These two documents live on a
different branch of cvs and all changes done to the 1.3.x docs will
have to be redone for 1.4.0.

JMarc


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-25 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, [UTF-8] Uwe Stöhr wrote:

> I also added some comments to Christians Userguide-discussion page:
> http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/DevelDoc/UserGuide

I redid some changes to your ...A4PDFv2.lyx and uploaded the result to:
   http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/DevelDoc/UserGuide/UserGuideA4PDFv2_chr.lyx

I've added detailed comments to the wiki page, but in essence:

* Added option "idxtotoc" (index to TOC), in case an index will ever
  be added to the UG

* Removed 'page break' command after the TOC (it shouldn't be necessary)

* Added short title to 3.4.5.3
  Example #3: Labels, Levels and other list environments

* Another try at new sentence in 4.3 abt. figure transformation and
  the table caption

* "Macro names may not contain numbers!"

* Added code to the preamble that produces roman numbering for the first 
  pages, and then arabic numbering. (from Herbert's answer)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb:
Uwe> I also added some comments to Christians Userguide-discussion
Uwe> page: http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/DevelDoc/UserGuide
Uwe, something I forgot to ask about: are you using the 1.3.x or
1.4.0cvs version of the UserGuide? These two documents live on a
different branch of cvs and all changes done to the 1.3.x docs will
have to be redone for 1.4.0.
I used this one:

http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/lyxdoc/UserGuide.lyx?rev=HEAD=text/plain

I thought this is the newest one.

regards Uwe


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Christian Ridderström schrieb:
I also added some comments to Christians Userguide-discussion page:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/DevelDoc/UserGuide


I redid some changes to your ...A4PDFv2.lyx and uploaded the result to:
   http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/DevelDoc/UserGuide/UserGuideA4PDFv2_chr.lyx
I've added detailed comments to the wiki page, but in essence:

* Added option "idxtotoc" (index to TOC), in case an index will ever
  be added to the UG
* Removed 'page break' command after the TOC (it shouldn't be necessary)

* Added short title to 3.4.5.3
  Example #3: Labels, Levels and other list environments
* Another try at new sentence in 4.3 abt. figure transformation and
  the table caption
* "Macro names may not contain numbers!"

* Added code to the preamble that produces roman numbering for the first 
  pages, and then arabic numbering. (from Herbert's answer)
I agree with you in all comments, but I'm not sure if the roman numering 
is really necessary. idxtotoc could also be added when it is needed.

As you are working on it, you can remove the following from the preamble:

 % widens the vertical table spacing
 \renewcommand{\arraystretch}{1.25}
 % set the separation of table columns
 \setlength{\tabcolsep}{0.45em}
I mean that this is not necessary.

And you could delete:

% assure that the correct language is used
\usepackage[english]{babel}
That is not needed. I've overseen that.

Thanks for your help

regards Uwe


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Uwe> I used this one:

Uwe> 
http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/lyxdoc/UserGuide.lyx?rev=HEAD=text/plain

Uwe> I thought this is the newest one.

Yes, it is the newest one, in the sense that it has been adapted for
1.4.0. This is a wise choice.

If we want at least some of your changes to appear in 1.3.5, you will
have to backport them.

JMarc


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-25 Thread Mike Ressler
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 08:58, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Lior Silberman schrieb:
> > In the US at least, 'letter' is the standard paper size. I think England
> > uses A4. IIRC 'legal' pages have the same width as 'letter', but are much
> > longer.

"legal" is 8.5 x 14 inches, IIRC.

> Seems that the ISO sizes are going to be the world standard.
> Astonishing why the USA doesn't adopt it. (That's the same with the 
> units: All over the world they use the metric system (invented by the 
> french), except of the USA.)
> Has anybody an explanation for this?

Money. In a ruthlessly capitalistic society, money is the final decision
maker. We don't deal well with rules handed down from on high; if it
costs us something to change, we rebel. I really wish we had forced it
through when converting to metric was first proposed 30 years ago. As I
scientist, I can think well in both systems (except for temperature - I
still have to convert Celsius to Fahrenheit in my head to decide if it
is cold outside :-), but it is sad that we are still stuck in Imperial
units.

As for your actual rewrite of the User Guide, I haven't had a chance to
read it yet :-), but it sounds like you are moving in a good direction.
I'll try to review it later today.

The very American ...
Mike

P.S. Since centimeters are the metric equivalent of inches, and
kilograms the equivalent of pounds, just remember that "football" is the
metric term for "soccer".


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> The file prints fine.

Good news.

> Other quibbles:
>
> 1. The "note" up front: translate 'oder' to 'or'.
Done.

> 2. sec 3.3.4.3, table: the word 'add' is sometimes in the default
> font, sometimes marked 'Sans Serif'.
All 'add' are sans serif now.

> 3. sec 3.3.4.4, second *: it's _displayed_ math that doesn't work in a
> section heading. Inline math is fine.
Rendered more precisely.

> 4. sec 3.3.6.2, second-to-last paragraph: the ERT "\linebreak" seemes
> unneccesary. If it's needed, replace with 'C-Return'.
\linebreak is not C-Return (\newline).
I added these commands to avoid 'overfull \hbox'-warnings.
(BTW LyX should support \linebreak. I'll open an enhancement in bugzilla.)
> 5. 3.4.1, discussion of keybindings: do consider a footnote reminding
> R-To-L users that "S-M-Left", "S-M-Right" decrease and increase the
> nesting level respectively, regardless of the direction of the
> paragraph!
This confuses me. The text doesn't say that S-M-Left or S-M-Right 
depends on the direction. How did you came on this idea?
Anyway I corrected the menu name from 'Increase List Depth' to 'Increase 
Environment Depth'.

> 6. 3.4.2, "Unnestable": Part* and Chapter* in 'default' rather than
> 'Sans Serif' font.
They are 'Sans Serif' now.

> 7. 5.7.2, example: this should use '\cases' rather than a 2x2 matrix.

Then you have to use AMS-LaTeX. The userguide never used this.
I wrote an extra documentation, that explains it:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/LyXMathebefehle
(still in german, but I'll translate it sometime)
> [independently, does '\cases' deserve its own subsection?]

No.

Here the corrected version of UserguidePDF:

http://fkurth.de/uwest/LyX/userguide/
or
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/UserGuidePDF.lyx
regards Uwe



Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-25 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

> Here the corrected version of UserguidePDF:
> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/UserGuidePDF.lyx

Well, here we go again :-)

I took your version and did the following:

* Changed "Macro names mustn't contain numbers!"
  into"Macro names cannot contain numbers!"

* Added this to the preamble:
% Set nicer fonts for PDF-output
\usepackage[scaled=0.92]{helvet}
\usepackage{mathptmx}
\usepackage{courier}
   so that the PDF file's fonts don't look crappy

* Added this to the preamble:

% Use roman page number in general, but
% arabic numbers up until the TOC
% In addition, add a PDF bookmark for the TOC
\pagenumbering{roman}
\let\myTOC\tableofcontents
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
%\hypertarget{Inhalt}{}
\pdfbookmark[1]{Contents}{TOC}
\myTOC
\clearpage
\pagenumbering{arabic}
}
   so that we get the roman/arabic page numbering (I like it! ;-)

* Changed "These package should..." into "This package should..." in the 
  note in the beginning.

* Change "URLs mustn't end with a backslash!" into
 "URLs may not end with a backslash!"

and I've uploaded this file as:
   http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/DevelDoc/UserGuide/UserGuidePDF_chr.lyx

enjoy

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-25 Thread Angus Leeming
Christian Ridderström wrote:

This section is now a little out of date: graphics will now fit on the 
lyx screen; the user can set the size of the screen image independent 
of its size in the exported document.

1.2.2 How LYX Looks
...
There are three cases where you might want a horizontal scrollbar. The 
first case is large figures, displayed WYSIWYG. This, however, is due 
to a flaw in the routine that displays graphics on the LYX screen in 
a WYSIWYG fashion; it should rescale the graphics to fit in the 
window, just as you d need to rescale graphics to fit on a page. The 
second and third cases are tables and equations which are wider than 
the LYX window. You can use the arrow keys to scroll horizontally 
through the table, but this doesn t work for equations yet.

-- 
Angus



Re: LyX Userguide issues - update 2 (paper format solution)

2004-02-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Well, here we go again :-)

I took your version and did the following:

* Changed "Macro names mustn't contain numbers!"
  into"Macro names cannot contain numbers!"
What is the difference between mustn't and may not/cannot?
Mustn't = may not, or am I wrong?
* Added this to the preamble:
% Set nicer fonts for PDF-output
\usepackage[scaled=0.92]{helvet}
\usepackage{mathptmx}
\usepackage{courier}
   so that the PDF file's fonts don't look crappy
I can't compile the doc when I use
\usepackage{mathptmx}
some tfm fonts couldn't be loaded, probably due to
the table in chapter 6.6.3.
Has anybody the same problem?
Another way is to use ae in Layout->Document->Layout->Font
but then we have to hack to get the characters in table (chapter 6.6.3) 
displayed.

BTW. I've installed ghostview 4.5 and it doesn't look pixeld.

* Added this to the preamble:

% Use roman page number in general, but
% arabic numbers up until the TOC
% In addition, add a PDF bookmark for the TOC
\pagenumbering{roman}
\let\myTOC\tableofcontents
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
%\hypertarget{Inhalt}{}
\pdfbookmark[1]{Contents}{TOC}
\myTOC
\clearpage
\pagenumbering{arabic}
}
   so that we get the roman/arabic page numbering (I like it! ;-)
I corrected it:

% the pages of the TOC are numbered roman
% and a PDF bookmark for the TOC is added
\pagenumbering{Roman}
\let\myTOC\tableofcontents
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
 \pdfbookmark[1]{Contents}{}
 \myTOC
 \clearpage
 \pagenumbering{arabic} }
- use big roman numbers: 'Roman' instead of 'roman'
- the \hypertarget command is not really necessary in this case, my
  fault.
* Changed "These package should..." into "This package should..." in the 
  note in the beginning.
My fault.

* Change "URLs mustn't end with a backslash!" into
 "URLs may not end with a backslash!"
See my question above.

I also added some space in the formula in chapter 5.3.

regards Uwe


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-24 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 Hello LyX-doc team,
 
 I uploaded a better version of my Userguide (named UserguideA4PDF.lyx to 
 prevent confusion).

I've gone over your version, but since there were quite a few changes (in 
your first post), I've put my comments here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/DevelDoc/UserGuide

instead of replying in the mail here. I think there are still some things 
to discuss.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Sorry,
I have forgot something:
The last preamble entry is

% widens the vertical table spacing
\renewcommand{\arraystretch}{1.25}
% set the separation of table columns
\setlength{\tabcolsep}{0.45em}
I adopted it from the actual Userguide.lyx and don't know if this is 
really necessary.
Mike could you possibly tell me something about this?

thanks Uwe


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-24 Thread Uwe Sthr
I also added some comments to Christians Userguide-discussion page:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/DevelDoc/UserGuide
regards Uwe


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-24 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

> Hello LyX-doc team,
> 
> I uploaded a better version of my Userguide (named UserguideA4PDF.lyx to 
> prevent confusion).

I've gone over your version, but since there were quite a few changes (in 
your first post), I've put my comments here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/DevelDoc/UserGuide

instead of replying in the mail here. I think there are still some things 
to discuss.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Sorry,
I have forgot something:
The last preamble entry is

% widens the vertical table spacing
\renewcommand{\arraystretch}{1.25}
% set the separation of table columns
\setlength{\tabcolsep}{0.45em}
I adopted it from the actual Userguide.lyx and don't know if this is 
really necessary.
Mike could you possibly tell me something about this?

thanks Uwe


Re: LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
I also added some comments to Christians Userguide-discussion page:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/DevelDoc/UserGuide
regards Uwe


LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Hello LyX-doc team,

I uploaded a better version of my Userguide (named UserguideA4PDF.lyx to 
prevent confusion).
It could be found at
http://fkurth.de/uwest/LyX/userguide/
or
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/UserGuideA4PDF.lyx

I corrected some mistakes I made and added a footnote in chapter 6.2 to 
defuse bug 449.
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449

regards Uwe


LyX Userguide issues - update

2004-02-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Hello LyX-doc team,

I uploaded a better version of my Userguide (named UserguideA4PDF.lyx to 
prevent confusion).
It could be found at
http://fkurth.de/uwest/LyX/userguide/
or
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/UserGuideA4PDF.lyx

I corrected some mistakes I made and added a footnote in chapter 6.2 to 
defuse bug 449.
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449

regards Uwe