Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Please google what RTFM measn :-)-O

el

On 2013-09-07 15:12 , Ken Springer wrote:
 On 9/7/13 3:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:
 Am 07.09.2013 um 03:19 schrieb Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com:

 Having resolved my issue with the LyX installation on my Mac, I also
 have installed it under Windows 7.  Also appears to work fine.

 This has left me wondering about installation packages for different
 OS's.

 Why is it, that if it's a Windows program, if a supporting program is
 needed to make the program run, in this case, the supporting program
 is also included in the program's installation package.  But, when
 the program goes into OS X, the supporting program isn't included in
 the installation package.

 If the Mac LyX package for OS X had included the supporting program,
 I would never have had a problem.LOL

 What support do you have in mind? The installation of a usable TeX
 system?
 
 Exactly.  When you install the Windows bundle, it includes MikTeX and
 JabRef(?), not sure if that's exactly right.  Isn't JabRef a
 bibliography thing?  (This is new to me.)  So a new user like me doesn't
 have to worry about making sure that when LyX is installed on Windows
 for the first time, it's a fully functional system.  But on the Mac,
 that doesn't happen.  The Mac LyX package does not include a TeX system,
 and I'm guessing no bibliography option.  So if a new user got a copy of
 LyX from some free software place, it's not going to work right out of
 the box, and the user isn't going to be happy.  I don't know what the
 user gets if it's for Linux.
 
 I just now looked a bit more at the LyX site, and it's intimidating to a
 new user, lots of things there that may as well be written in a foreign
 language if you are completely new to typography and the LyX world. Even
 more so if you are relatively new to computers.  (Something every site
 for every platform has become.  They totally ignore the newbie
 concept, and I'd bet turn off a lot of potential new users/converts.)
 
 

Re: Problem with framed box

[Anthony Campbell]

On 08 Sep 2013, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Which margins are violated, left/right or top/bottom? You can set the width
 of a box in it's settings menu.
 
 Paul


It was left/right. But thanks for the tip about setting the width - I
hadn't managed to find that, but it's exactly what I was looking for.

Anthony

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Re: Reverse search with xdvi

[Fabio S.]

direct search:
Tools-Preferences-Output-General
 xdvi -nofork -sourceposition $$n $$t $$o -editor 
lyxeditor.sh %f
%l


-nofork part is needed because of the pipe?


I guess: the point is that without -nofork if you have xdvi already open,
lyx starts a new instance every time you execute direct search.
I also addedd the -editor option.


Have you really tried without nofork option?
I just tried the standard call
xdvi -sourceposition 445:example.tex example.dvi
and no new instance was opened, instead it correctly jumped in already existing
viewer.


Yes, I really tried both and it was like I described. I am sure: I clearly 
remember having two open instances of xdvi.
But now I tried again and it works correctly even without the nofork 
options.


I can't understand what is happening! I am puzzled. :(

F.

Lambda not shown

[Philipp Gröne]

Hello!

Lowercase-lambdas are not shown in my Lyx-documents. Uppercase Deltas are  
shown.
The Preset I use is thesis (chapter-1 or chapter-2, does not matter). I  
activated Non-Tex-Fonts in the Document-Options. If I don't do that,  
deltas aren't shown, either. I use LuaTex.


A minimal example is attached.

I hope I provided all necessary information. Thanks in advance!
Ph.

Minimalnolambda.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - update

[Anthony Campbell]

On 02 Sep 2013, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 I'm writing a book (book class) in which I want to have marginal notes
 containing symbols, rather like the Dummies series. As it's a book I'm
 using the two-sided layout.
 
 This works OK using the marginal note command, but after I put a blank
 page at the beginning (needed to make the title page etc. appear on the
 correct side), the marginal notes come out on the wrong sides of the
 pages in the body of the text. 
 
 I found the command \reversemarginpar, which corrects the error except
 that the notes are now too far away from the text, right at the edge of
 the page. 
 
 Any way to fix this? I tried adding width arguments, e.g. [width=12pt]
 and [width=0.5in] without effect.
 

Since no one has answered this I have dug further and come up with this
bug report from 1999, saying that it is due to a deep problem in the
Latex engine:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg05248.html

The only workaround suggested is to put \clearpage or \eject above the
section header, but of course this introduces an unwanted page break. 

As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusuable for the book
class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
files?

Anthony

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europs.sty missing after Debian upgrade

[Dominik Vogt]

I've been using the g-brief template from lyx on Debian 6 for
quite some while:

  LyX 1.6.7 (2010-07-10)
  Built on Jul 17 2010, 16:08:48
  ...
Special build flags:  aiksaurus warnings  use-enchant use-ispell
LyX binary dir:   /usr/bin
LyX files dir:/usr/share/lyx

After upgrading the system to Debian 7.1,

  LyX 2.0.3 (2012-02-19)
  Built on May 30 2012, 18:11:59
  ...
Special build flags:  build=release warnings use-enchant
LyX binary dir:   /usr/bin
LyX files dir:/usr/share/lyx

the old g-brief letters produce an error message when opened:

  The selected document class letter (g-brief) requires external
  files that are not available, The document class can still be
  used, but the document cannot be compiled until the following
  prerequisites are installed: europs.sty

(The same happens if I create a new document from the g-brief-de
or the g-brief2 template.)

I have already reconfigured LyX (Tools - Reconfigure).

It looks like europs.sty is no longer part of the package
texlive-fonts-recommended.

How can I fix this fix this situation?

Please cc me on replies, I'm not subscribed to the list.

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Ken Springer]

I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it.

You missed the point of my post, but I don't have time to explain at the 
moment.  Work calls.  :-(



On 9/9/13 12:47 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Please google what RTFM measn :-)-O

el

On 2013-09-07 15:12 , Ken Springer wrote:

On 9/7/13 3:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 07.09.2013 um 03:19 schrieb Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com:


Having resolved my issue with the LyX installation on my Mac, I also
have installed it under Windows 7.  Also appears to work fine.

This has left me wondering about installation packages for different
OS's.

Why is it, that if it's a Windows program, if a supporting program is
needed to make the program run, in this case, the supporting program
is also included in the program's installation package.  But, when
the program goes into OS X, the supporting program isn't included in
the installation package.

If the Mac LyX package for OS X had included the supporting program,
I would never have had a problem.LOL


What support do you have in mind? The installation of a usable TeX
system?


Exactly.  When you install the Windows bundle, it includes MikTeX and
JabRef(?), not sure if that's exactly right.  Isn't JabRef a
bibliography thing?  (This is new to me.)  So a new user like me doesn't
have to worry about making sure that when LyX is installed on Windows
for the first time, it's a fully functional system.  But on the Mac,
that doesn't happen.  The Mac LyX package does not include a TeX system,
and I'm guessing no bibliography option.  So if a new user got a copy of
LyX from some free software place, it's not going to work right out of
the box, and the user isn't going to be happy.  I don't know what the
user gets if it's for Linux.

I just now looked a bit more at the LyX site, and it's intimidating to a
new user, lots of things there that may as well be written in a foreign
language if you are completely new to typography and the LyX world. Even
more so if you are relatively new to computers.  (Something every site
for every platform has become.  They totally ignore the newbie
concept, and I'd bet turn off a lot of potential new users/converts.)



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Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.04

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Charlie]

 On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:54:39 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com sent
 this:

I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it.

snip

  With the risk that I also might have missed the point. I think it was
  suggested that if you RTFM. Your question will be answered and there
  would be no need to post to the list.

Hope that helps you.
Charlie
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Queries

[Doris]

Dear Sir/Mdm,
 
I am a first time user of Lyx (or LaTex) and therefore completely new to it. I 
installed the software for Mac, read the Intro and as I started the tutorial, i 
was unfortunately already stuck at the first step.
I am not able to create a PDF file as the 'eyeballs' icon are in grey and thus 
do not work.
 
Could you kindly tell me if you know what could be the problem?
 
Also, each time i open a file under HELP function, i get a message with a 
yellow triangle that says:
 
'The selected document class book requires external files that are not 
available etc'. Is this normal?
 
Thank you.
 
regards,
Doris

Re: Queries

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Doris sci80...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Dear Sir/Mdm,

 I am a first time user of Lyx (or LaTex) and therefore completely new to
 it. I installed the software for Mac, read the Intro and as I started the
 tutorial, i was unfortunately already stuck at the first step.
 I am not able to create a PDF file as the 'eyeballs' icon are in grey and
 thus do not work.

 Could you kindly tell me if you know what could be the problem?

 Also, each time i open a file under HELP function, i get a message with a
 yellow triangle that says:

 'The selected document class book requires external files that are not
 available etc'. Is this normal?




Hi Doris,

you probably need to install MacTeX, the MAc version of TeX, typographic
engine that convert lyx files into pdf. You may want to look at the LyX
wiki page on Mac installation for instructions: http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac.
Here is an excerpt on MacTex, which includes the link to the MacTeX site :

Prerequisite

You need a TeX installation. The easiest option is to use
MacTeXhttp://www.tug.org/mactex/.
The .dmg file for a complete MacTeX installation is very large ( 1 GB),
but it is a very complete distribution and installs right out of the box.
MacTeX includes all the components necessary for TeX to work, and includes
the bibliography managing program BibDesk.

Users with slower download speeds might want to download BasicTeX, a much
smaller distribution, linked from the MacTeX page.




Cheers,

Stefano


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Lyx not saving words to personal dictionary

[Alfredo Maldonado Guerra]

Hello,

I'm using LyX 2.0.3 under Ubuntu 13.04. (The 2.0.3 version is the latest 
available in the Ubuntu repositories at the moment).

I'm using the default spellchecker engine (Enchant), language = English (UK).

When I add a word not recognised by the spellchecker to my personal dictionary 
LyX stops highlighting it in red, as expected. However, when I close the 
program and open it again, I notice that all of the words that I added to the 
personal dictionary are again highlighted in red, making me believe that they 
were not added to my personal dictionary. Of course, adding words every time I 
start a new LyX session is quite cumbersome. 

How can I make LyX remember words added to the personal dictionary between 
sessions? 

Thanks for your help in advance.

Alfredo

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Anders Ekberg]

On 2013-09-09 15:23, Charlie aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote:

 On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:54:39 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com sent
 this:

   I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it.

snip

  With the risk that I also might have missed the point. I think it was
  suggested that if you RTFM. Your question will be answered and there
  would be no need to post to the list.

If I understood it correctly, the point was bundling TeX and LyX. This
would probably make it easier for first-timers. But the download would be
massive, which persons who just update LyX probably would not like.
Downloading if needed would require a script that someone would need to
create and (not the least) maintain.

As for documentation I personally think the wiki, Tutorial and User's
guide are excellent. But I am probably blind for difficulties a beginner
faces. Unfortunately I think those that have the difficulties fresh in
mind, and are the ones that I think should update
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac (or create a Beginner's video guide or
whatever they find would be helpful and is currently missing for a
beginner) are often hesitant to do this since they think they are not
experienced enough. So we have a bit of a catch 22Š

All the best!
Anders

Re: Lyx not saving words to personal dictionary

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/09/2013 10:29 AM, Alfredo Maldonado Guerra wrote:

Hello,

I'm using LyX 2.0.3 under Ubuntu 13.04. (The 2.0.3 version is the 
latest available in the Ubuntu repositories at the moment).


I'm using the default spellchecker engine (Enchant), language = 
English (UK).


When I add a word not recognised by the spellchecker to my personal 
dictionary LyX stops highlighting it in red, as expected. However, 
when I close the program and open it again, I notice that all of the 
words that I added to the personal dictionary are again highlighted in 
red, making me believe that they were not added to my personal 
dictionary. Of course, adding words every time I start a new LyX 
session is quite cumbersome.


How can I make LyX remember words added to the personal dictionary 
between sessions?


My words are saved under $HOME/.config/enchant/en_US.dic .  My system is 
slightly different (debian testing, lyx-2.0.6 --- which, by the way, you 
can install in Ubuntu since it comes from debian).


Check to make sure those directories are present (well, of course, with 
that other language...), and that they are writable.   Permissions 
problems used to be more common, but still occur occasionally.


--

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Some people used to claim that, if enough monkeys sat in front of
enough typewriters and typed long enough, eventually one of them would
reproduce the collected works of Shakespeare.  The internet has
proven this not to be the case.

Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - update

[Les Denham]

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:46:05 +0100
Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:

 As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusuable for the book
 class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
 files?

Anthony,

If you're using the book class, by default you are assumed to have
chapters.

If two-sided page layout is selected, a Chapter environment will
automatically start on a right hand (odd numbered) page, inserting a
blank page where necessary. So starting the text body with a chapter
heading will solve the problem.

Is there any special reason why you are not using the Title, Author,
etc., environments for the title page?

Personally, I prefer to use the book(KOMA-script) class (a lot more
options, but defaults work well) or memoir class (an infinite number of
options, a lot of them different from anything else in LaTeX, and an
excellent manual, but a very steep learning curve), but the book class
should work for what you're doing. Attached is a sample file to show
what can be done.

Les

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MarginNoteTest.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Thank you for View-Update

[Bob Alvarez]

Thank you very much for View-Update (Ctrl+Shift+R). It's been in LyX
for many, many versions, but now it works, and it's a great help in
keeping the PDF I'm proofreading in sync with the file I'm modifying.



On my Windows 7 system the pdf viewer does not allow updates to the 
file.  Lyx gives me the error message:


I can't write on file ...

Does anyone know a way around this?

Bob

Re: Turning-off a command from a layout file?

[Richard Heck]

On 09/08/2013 10:03 PM, Christian Bustamante wrote:

When I do this:

DefaultModule theorems-ams
NoStyle Problem
Style Problem
LatexTypecommand
LatexNameproblem
LabelStringProblem:
LatexTypeEnvironment
OptionalArgs 1
End

The Theorems AMS module overwrite my Problem style in the dropdown 
styles menu. When trying to compile, it says LaTeX Error: Command 
\problem already defined. I tried changing the order:


NoStyle Problem
DefaultModule theorems-ams
Style Problem
...
End

with the same result. I am attaching my layout file if someone want to 
see it.


You should probably do

Input theorems-ams
ProvidesModule theorems-ams

The DefaultModule stuff just says to load the module, by default, when 
modules are loaded, which will happen AFTER the layout stuff is loaded. 
That is why your declaration gets over-written. When you use Input, the 
file is loaded immediately.


Richard

Re: Lyx not saving words to personal dictionary

[Alfredo Maldonado Guerra]

Hi David, 

Thanks for your help. Indeed the problem was due to a permission issue in the 
$HOME/.config/enchant directory. The directory and its contents were owned by 
root. I changed ownership to myself and I'm able to save words to the personal 
dictionary (which is a file inside this directory).

Thanks again!
Alfredo

Re: Lyx not saving words to personal dictionary

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:43 AM, David L. Johnson
david.john...@lehigh.eduwrote:

  On 09/09/2013 10:29 AM, Alfredo Maldonado Guerra wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm using LyX 2.0.3 under Ubuntu 13.04. (The 2.0.3 version is the latest
 available in the Ubuntu repositories at the moment).

 I'm using the default spellchecker engine (Enchant), language = English
 (UK).

 When I add a word not recognised by the spellchecker to my personal
 dictionary LyX stops highlighting it in red, as expected. However, when I
 close the program and open it again, I notice that all of the words that I
 added to the personal dictionary are again highlighted in red, making me
 believe that they were not added to my personal dictionary. Of course,
 adding words every time I start a new LyX session is quite cumbersome.

 How can I make LyX remember words added to the personal dictionary between
 sessions?


 My words are saved under $HOME/.config/enchant/en_US.dic .  My system is
 slightly different (debian testing, lyx-2.0.6 --- which, by the way, you
 can install in Ubuntu since it comes from debian).

 Check to make sure those directories are present (well, of course, with
 that other language...), and that they are writable.   Permissions problems
 used to be more common, but still occur occasionally.

 Hmm, so I have had the same problem for a long time, but with hunspell.
David's message prompted to check its man page and indeed, tha page says
that the personal dictionary is saved in
$HOME/.hunspell_default

which did not exist in my case. Creating it not solve the problem, however.
It remains empty after I save words to the personal dictionary from within
LyX. Anyone has any clue on how to fix this? The wiki page is silent on the
issue.

Cheers,

Stefano

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Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

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Questions

[Nathaniel Hilger]

Hello,

I'd like to ask a few simple questions.

-Where do I find a User's Guide for mac Lyx? Many of the keyboard
shortcuts in the standard User's Guide do not seem to work on Mac.

-How do I toggle between open files in different tabs using shortcuts in
Mac Lyx? Right now I am clicking with my mouse.

-How do I nest a bullet into a bullet, to get cascading bullets on Mac Lyx?
The suggested shortcuts do not work for me.

-Is this the right email for me to send these kinds of questions?

Thank you,
Nate

Re: Thank you for View-Update

[Paul A . Rubin]

I suspect your PDF viewer is Acrobat Reader, which has the unfortunate
(ill-conceived, misbegotten) habit of putting a write lock on a file while
displaying it. Option 1 is to switch to a different PDF viewer. (There are
several good few ones for Windows.) Option 2 is to change your viewer to a
script (batch file) that closes Reader and then reopens it. Some years back
there was such a script that I think was included with at least one Windows
port of LyX (Uwe's bundle?). You might be able to find it archived on the wiki.

Paul

Re: Questions

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.09.2013 um 20:46 schrieb Nathaniel Hilger natei...@gmail.com:

 Hello,
 
 I'd like to ask a few simple questions.
 
 -Where do I find a User's Guide for mac Lyx? Many of the keyboard shortcuts 
 in the standard User's Guide do not seem to work on Mac. 

All the documents shipped with LyX are available below the Help menu.
Probably you're looking for the document Shortcuts.

 -How do I toggle between open files in different tabs using shortcuts in Mac 
 Lyx? Right now I am clicking with my mouse.

In theory it's Control-Tab or Shift-Control-Tab. But it doesn't work for me, 
too :(

 -How do I nest a bullet into a bullet, to get cascading bullets on Mac Lyx? 
 The suggested shortcuts do not work for me.

For me the Tab key works.

 -Is this the right email for me to send these kinds of questions?

Yes.

Kind regards,
Stephan

Re: Questions

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.09.2013 um 21:47 schrieb Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net:

 Am 09.09.2013 um 20:46 schrieb Nathaniel Hilger natei...@gmail.com:
 
 Hello,
 
 I'd like to ask a few simple questions.
 
 -Where do I find a User's Guide for mac Lyx? Many of the keyboard 
 shortcuts in the standard User's Guide do not seem to work on Mac. 
 
 All the documents shipped with LyX are available below the Help menu.
 Probably you're looking for the document Shortcuts.
 
 -How do I toggle between open files in different tabs using shortcuts in Mac 
 Lyx? Right now I am clicking with my mouse.
 
 In theory it's Control-Tab or Shift-Control-Tab. But it doesn't work for me, 
 too :(

However, you may configure an alternate shortcut yourself.

- Open preferences (Command-,)
- Go to Edit - Shortcuts
- Add a shortcut for
 * buffer-next
 * buffer-previous
E.g. Control-Page-Down resp. Control-Page-Up. On a macbook you have to use 
Control-Fn-Down resp. -Up instead.

Stephan

 
 -How do I nest a bullet into a bullet, to get cascading bullets on Mac Lyx? 
 The suggested shortcuts do not work for me.
 
 For me the Tab key works.
 
 -Is this the right email for me to send these kinds of questions?
 
 Yes.
 
 Kind regards,
 Stephan
 

Re: Reverse search with xdvi

[Pavel Sanda]

Fabio S. wrote:
   direct search:
   Tools-Preferences-Output-General
xdvi -nofork -sourceposition $$n $$t $$o -editor 
 lyxeditor.sh %f
 %l

 -nofork part is needed because of the pipe?

 I guess: the point is that without -nofork if you have xdvi already open,
 lyx starts a new instance every time you execute direct search.
 I also addedd the -editor option.

 Have you really tried without nofork option?
 I just tried the standard call
 xdvi -sourceposition 445:example.tex example.dvi
 and no new instance was opened, instead it correctly jumped in already 
 existing
 viewer.

 Yes, I really tried both and it was like I described. I am sure: I clearly 
 remember having two open instances of xdvi.
 But now I tried again and it works correctly even without the nofork 
 options.

 I can't understand what is happening! I am puzzled. :(

Ok. I committed the rest of changes already. Pavel

Re: Questions

[Nathaniel Hilger]

Great, thank you!
Nate


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am 09.09.2013 um 20:46 schrieb Nathaniel Hilger natei...@gmail.com:

  Hello,
 
  I'd like to ask a few simple questions.
 
  -Where do I find a User's Guide for mac Lyx? Many of the keyboard
 shortcuts in the standard User's Guide do not seem to work on Mac.

 All the documents shipped with LyX are available below the Help menu.
 Probably you're looking for the document Shortcuts.

  -How do I toggle between open files in different tabs using shortcuts in
 Mac Lyx? Right now I am clicking with my mouse.

 In theory it's Control-Tab or Shift-Control-Tab. But it doesn't work for
 me, too :(

  -How do I nest a bullet into a bullet, to get cascading bullets on Mac
 Lyx? The suggested shortcuts do not work for me.

 For me the Tab key works.

  -Is this the right email for me to send these kinds of questions?

 Yes.

 Kind regards,
 Stephan

Widows and Orphans

[Gordon Cooper]

  Is there a simple answer to the typesetting widow  orphan
problem in Lyx/latex? I see that there are various suggestions
offered in the manuals but they all seem to result in the need
for a bit of text adjustment (fiddling) as the final step before
printing.

Gordon
Tauranga.

Re: Turning-off a command from a layout file?

[Christian Bustamante]

I tried with

Input theorems-ams.module
ProvidesModule theorems-ams

and in fact the only problem style that appears in the drop-down menu is my
style. However, when I try to compile the document, I'm still getting
LaTeX Error: Command \problem already defined. In the description part
says \newtheorem{problem}[thm]{\protect\problemname} Your command was
ignored...





On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:

  On 09/08/2013 10:03 PM, Christian Bustamante wrote:

  When I do this:

  DefaultModule theorems-ams
 NoStyle Problem
 Style Problem
  LatexType command
  LatexName problem
  LabelString Problem:
  LatexType Environment
  OptionalArgs 1
 End

  The Theorems AMS module overwrite my Problem style in the dropdown
 styles menu. When trying to compile, it says LaTeX Error: Command \problem
 already defined. I tried changing the order:

  NoStyle Problem
 DefaultModule theorems-ams
 Style Problem
  ...
 End

  with the same result. I am attaching my layout file if someone want to
 see it.


 You should probably do

 Input theorems-ams
 ProvidesModule theorems-ams

 The DefaultModule stuff just says to load the module, by default, when
 modules are loaded, which will happen AFTER the layout stuff is loaded.
 That is why your declaration gets over-written. When you use Input, the
 file is loaded immediately.

 Richard




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Re: RCS user name

[Sam Lewis]

Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane todd.denniston at navy.mil
writes:

 check the file in, but do not check back out a LOCKED copy of the file,
 and then you should be able to
 checkout a LOCKED copy on the other computer.
 
 Version Control is GOOD :)

Very useful! 

Thanks!
Sam

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Ken Springer]

Eberhard, Charlie, and Anders,

I think my reply works better if I answer all of you with just the one 
reply, otherwise there would be a lot of duplication of effort on my part.


On 9/9/13 8:34 AM, Anders Ekberg wrote:

On 2013-09-09 15:23, Charlie aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote:


On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:54:39 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com sent
this:

I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it.

snip

  With the risk that I also might have missed the point. I think it was
  suggested that if you RTFM. Your question will be answered and there
  would be no need to post to the list.


If I understood it correctly, the point was bundling TeX and LyX. This
would probably make it easier for first-timers. But the download would be
massive, which persons who just update LyX probably would not like.
Downloading if needed would require a script that someone would need to
create and (not the least) maintain.

As for documentation I personally think the wiki, Tutorial and User's
guide are excellent. But I am probably blind for difficulties a beginner
faces. Unfortunately I think those that have the difficulties fresh in
mind, and are the ones that I think should update
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac (or create a Beginner's video guide or
whatever they find would be helpful and is currently missing for a
beginner) are often hesitant to do this since they think they are not
experienced enough. So we have a bit of a catch 22Š


A lot of my original message, Message-ID: l0f8nq$iib$1...@ger.gmane.org, 
was intended to refer to the true newbie/beginner.  I'm just too damned 
old to be a newbie! LOL


And a lot was meant to refer to the website itself, not the program or 
documentation.


Anders is correct, I was talking about the bundling of LyX and some kind 
of TeX program.  Anders brings up a point about folks who only need the 
update to LyX as opposed to someone needing the whole package.  If you 
use Windows, that's an option already.  There are two packages 
available, one for the person needing everything, like me, and one who 
only needs to update LyX.  If it can be done for Windows, why can't it 
be done for the Mac?  I don't know about any Linux versions, but I'd 
still have the same question.


I've not had the chance to check the documentation for LyX, but my 
experiences with documentation, especially on the web, is it's 
incomplete and disjointed.  There's no organization.  No index.  And my 
questions are never answered.  Neither do I get answers from forums, 
from almost anyone.  Commercial or open source.  I've been trying to get 
a networking question between OS X and Windows answered for 3 months.  I 
finally have some thing that's workable, but it's a kludge and ignores 
any and all sharing restrictions.


As for the website, or documentation for that matter, my mind always 
defaults to the lowest common denominator.  How would a person who 
doesn't know how to spell LyX respond to what is on the site?  With the 
people in my past, I'd say they would look at the site, and walk away 
from LyX.  I doubt that is what the developers would like.


If the truly new person, who found LyX using search engine, walks away 
from LyX because nothing makes any sense to them, LyX has possibly lost 
a convert.


One problem I've found with documentation is, it's almost always 
incomplete and out of date.  (Remember, this is a general impression, 
I've not had the time to read the LyX documentation.)  Even the LyX site 
appears to be out of date regarding installation under Mountain Lion. 
The site mentions ML's Gatekeeper, and how to get around it.  But the 
Gatekeeper wasn't a problem for me.  Somebody apparently fixed the 
issue, but the site is out of date on that.


I don't know if this has made anything more understandable or not, but 
I'm out of time for today.   :-(



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Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.04

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Please google what RTFM measn :-)-O

el

On 2013-09-07 15:12 , Ken Springer wrote:
 On 9/7/13 3:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:
 Am 07.09.2013 um 03:19 schrieb Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com:

 Having resolved my issue with the LyX installation on my Mac, I also
 have installed it under Windows 7.  Also appears to work fine.

 This has left me wondering about installation packages for different
 OS's.

 Why is it, that if it's a Windows program, if a supporting program is
 needed to make the program run, in this case, the supporting program
 is also included in the program's installation package.  But, when
 the program goes into OS X, the supporting program isn't included in
 the installation package.

 If the Mac LyX package for OS X had included the supporting program,
 I would never have had a problem.LOL

 What support do you have in mind? The installation of a usable TeX
 system?
 
 Exactly.  When you install the Windows bundle, it includes MikTeX and
 JabRef(?), not sure if that's exactly right.  Isn't JabRef a
 bibliography thing?  (This is new to me.)  So a new user like me doesn't
 have to worry about making sure that when LyX is installed on Windows
 for the first time, it's a fully functional system.  But on the Mac,
 that doesn't happen.  The Mac LyX package does not include a TeX system,
 and I'm guessing no bibliography option.  So if a new user got a copy of
 LyX from some free software place, it's not going to work right out of
 the box, and the user isn't going to be happy.  I don't know what the
 user gets if it's for Linux.
 
 I just now looked a bit more at the LyX site, and it's intimidating to a
 new user, lots of things there that may as well be written in a foreign
 language if you are completely new to typography and the LyX world. Even
 more so if you are relatively new to computers.  (Something every site
 for every platform has become.  They totally ignore the newbie
 concept, and I'd bet turn off a lot of potential new users/converts.)
 
 

Re: Problem with framed box

[Anthony Campbell]

On 08 Sep 2013, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Which margins are violated, left/right or top/bottom? You can set the width
 of a box in it's settings menu.
 
 Paul


It was left/right. But thanks for the tip about setting the width - I
hadn't managed to find that, but it's exactly what I was looking for.

Anthony

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Re: Reverse search with xdvi

[Fabio S.]

direct search:
Tools-Preferences-Output-General
 xdvi -nofork -sourceposition $$n $$t $$o -editor 
lyxeditor.sh %f
%l


-nofork part is needed because of the pipe?


I guess: the point is that without -nofork if you have xdvi already open,
lyx starts a new instance every time you execute direct search.
I also addedd the -editor option.


Have you really tried without nofork option?
I just tried the standard call
xdvi -sourceposition 445:example.tex example.dvi
and no new instance was opened, instead it correctly jumped in already existing
viewer.


Yes, I really tried both and it was like I described. I am sure: I clearly 
remember having two open instances of xdvi.
But now I tried again and it works correctly even without the nofork 
options.


I can't understand what is happening! I am puzzled. :(

F.

Lambda not shown

[Philipp Gröne]

Hello!

Lowercase-lambdas are not shown in my Lyx-documents. Uppercase Deltas are  
shown.
The Preset I use is thesis (chapter-1 or chapter-2, does not matter). I  
activated Non-Tex-Fonts in the Document-Options. If I don't do that,  
deltas aren't shown, either. I use LuaTex.


A minimal example is attached.

I hope I provided all necessary information. Thanks in advance!
Ph.

Minimalnolambda.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - update

[Anthony Campbell]

On 02 Sep 2013, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 I'm writing a book (book class) in which I want to have marginal notes
 containing symbols, rather like the Dummies series. As it's a book I'm
 using the two-sided layout.
 
 This works OK using the marginal note command, but after I put a blank
 page at the beginning (needed to make the title page etc. appear on the
 correct side), the marginal notes come out on the wrong sides of the
 pages in the body of the text. 
 
 I found the command \reversemarginpar, which corrects the error except
 that the notes are now too far away from the text, right at the edge of
 the page. 
 
 Any way to fix this? I tried adding width arguments, e.g. [width=12pt]
 and [width=0.5in] without effect.
 

Since no one has answered this I have dug further and come up with this
bug report from 1999, saying that it is due to a deep problem in the
Latex engine:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg05248.html

The only workaround suggested is to put \clearpage or \eject above the
section header, but of course this introduces an unwanted page break. 

As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusuable for the book
class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
files?

Anthony

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europs.sty missing after Debian upgrade

[Dominik Vogt]

I've been using the g-brief template from lyx on Debian 6 for
quite some while:

  LyX 1.6.7 (2010-07-10)
  Built on Jul 17 2010, 16:08:48
  ...
Special build flags:  aiksaurus warnings  use-enchant use-ispell
LyX binary dir:   /usr/bin
LyX files dir:/usr/share/lyx

After upgrading the system to Debian 7.1,

  LyX 2.0.3 (2012-02-19)
  Built on May 30 2012, 18:11:59
  ...
Special build flags:  build=release warnings use-enchant
LyX binary dir:   /usr/bin
LyX files dir:/usr/share/lyx

the old g-brief letters produce an error message when opened:

  The selected document class letter (g-brief) requires external
  files that are not available, The document class can still be
  used, but the document cannot be compiled until the following
  prerequisites are installed: europs.sty

(The same happens if I create a new document from the g-brief-de
or the g-brief2 template.)

I have already reconfigured LyX (Tools - Reconfigure).

It looks like europs.sty is no longer part of the package
texlive-fonts-recommended.

How can I fix this fix this situation?

Please cc me on replies, I'm not subscribed to the list.

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Ken Springer]

I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it.

You missed the point of my post, but I don't have time to explain at the 
moment.  Work calls.  :-(



On 9/9/13 12:47 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Please google what RTFM measn :-)-O

el

On 2013-09-07 15:12 , Ken Springer wrote:

On 9/7/13 3:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 07.09.2013 um 03:19 schrieb Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com:


Having resolved my issue with the LyX installation on my Mac, I also
have installed it under Windows 7.  Also appears to work fine.

This has left me wondering about installation packages for different
OS's.

Why is it, that if it's a Windows program, if a supporting program is
needed to make the program run, in this case, the supporting program
is also included in the program's installation package.  But, when
the program goes into OS X, the supporting program isn't included in
the installation package.

If the Mac LyX package for OS X had included the supporting program,
I would never have had a problem.LOL


What support do you have in mind? The installation of a usable TeX
system?


Exactly.  When you install the Windows bundle, it includes MikTeX and
JabRef(?), not sure if that's exactly right.  Isn't JabRef a
bibliography thing?  (This is new to me.)  So a new user like me doesn't
have to worry about making sure that when LyX is installed on Windows
for the first time, it's a fully functional system.  But on the Mac,
that doesn't happen.  The Mac LyX package does not include a TeX system,
and I'm guessing no bibliography option.  So if a new user got a copy of
LyX from some free software place, it's not going to work right out of
the box, and the user isn't going to be happy.  I don't know what the
user gets if it's for Linux.

I just now looked a bit more at the LyX site, and it's intimidating to a
new user, lots of things there that may as well be written in a foreign
language if you are completely new to typography and the LyX world. Even
more so if you are relatively new to computers.  (Something every site
for every platform has become.  They totally ignore the newbie
concept, and I'd bet turn off a lot of potential new users/converts.)



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Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.04

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Charlie]

 On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:54:39 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com sent
 this:

I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it.

snip

  With the risk that I also might have missed the point. I think it was
  suggested that if you RTFM. Your question will be answered and there
  would be no need to post to the list.

Hope that helps you.
Charlie
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Queries

[Doris]

Dear Sir/Mdm,
 
I am a first time user of Lyx (or LaTex) and therefore completely new to it. I 
installed the software for Mac, read the Intro and as I started the tutorial, i 
was unfortunately already stuck at the first step.
I am not able to create a PDF file as the 'eyeballs' icon are in grey and thus 
do not work.
 
Could you kindly tell me if you know what could be the problem?
 
Also, each time i open a file under HELP function, i get a message with a 
yellow triangle that says:
 
'The selected document class book requires external files that are not 
available etc'. Is this normal?
 
Thank you.
 
regards,
Doris

Re: Queries

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Doris sci80...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Dear Sir/Mdm,

 I am a first time user of Lyx (or LaTex) and therefore completely new to
 it. I installed the software for Mac, read the Intro and as I started the
 tutorial, i was unfortunately already stuck at the first step.
 I am not able to create a PDF file as the 'eyeballs' icon are in grey and
 thus do not work.

 Could you kindly tell me if you know what could be the problem?

 Also, each time i open a file under HELP function, i get a message with a
 yellow triangle that says:

 'The selected document class book requires external files that are not
 available etc'. Is this normal?




Hi Doris,

you probably need to install MacTeX, the MAc version of TeX, typographic
engine that convert lyx files into pdf. You may want to look at the LyX
wiki page on Mac installation for instructions: http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac.
Here is an excerpt on MacTex, which includes the link to the MacTeX site :

Prerequisite

You need a TeX installation. The easiest option is to use
MacTeXhttp://www.tug.org/mactex/.
The .dmg file for a complete MacTeX installation is very large ( 1 GB),
but it is a very complete distribution and installs right out of the box.
MacTeX includes all the components necessary for TeX to work, and includes
the bibliography managing program BibDesk.

Users with slower download speeds might want to download BasicTeX, a much
smaller distribution, linked from the MacTeX page.




Cheers,

Stefano


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Lyx not saving words to personal dictionary

[Alfredo Maldonado Guerra]

Hello,

I'm using LyX 2.0.3 under Ubuntu 13.04. (The 2.0.3 version is the latest 
available in the Ubuntu repositories at the moment).

I'm using the default spellchecker engine (Enchant), language = English (UK).

When I add a word not recognised by the spellchecker to my personal dictionary 
LyX stops highlighting it in red, as expected. However, when I close the 
program and open it again, I notice that all of the words that I added to the 
personal dictionary are again highlighted in red, making me believe that they 
were not added to my personal dictionary. Of course, adding words every time I 
start a new LyX session is quite cumbersome. 

How can I make LyX remember words added to the personal dictionary between 
sessions? 

Thanks for your help in advance.

Alfredo

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Anders Ekberg]

On 2013-09-09 15:23, Charlie aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote:

 On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:54:39 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com sent
 this:

   I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it.

snip

  With the risk that I also might have missed the point. I think it was
  suggested that if you RTFM. Your question will be answered and there
  would be no need to post to the list.

If I understood it correctly, the point was bundling TeX and LyX. This
would probably make it easier for first-timers. But the download would be
massive, which persons who just update LyX probably would not like.
Downloading if needed would require a script that someone would need to
create and (not the least) maintain.

As for documentation I personally think the wiki, Tutorial and User's
guide are excellent. But I am probably blind for difficulties a beginner
faces. Unfortunately I think those that have the difficulties fresh in
mind, and are the ones that I think should update
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac (or create a Beginner's video guide or
whatever they find would be helpful and is currently missing for a
beginner) are often hesitant to do this since they think they are not
experienced enough. So we have a bit of a catch 22Š

All the best!
Anders

Re: Lyx not saving words to personal dictionary

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/09/2013 10:29 AM, Alfredo Maldonado Guerra wrote:

Hello,

I'm using LyX 2.0.3 under Ubuntu 13.04. (The 2.0.3 version is the 
latest available in the Ubuntu repositories at the moment).


I'm using the default spellchecker engine (Enchant), language = 
English (UK).


When I add a word not recognised by the spellchecker to my personal 
dictionary LyX stops highlighting it in red, as expected. However, 
when I close the program and open it again, I notice that all of the 
words that I added to the personal dictionary are again highlighted in 
red, making me believe that they were not added to my personal 
dictionary. Of course, adding words every time I start a new LyX 
session is quite cumbersome.


How can I make LyX remember words added to the personal dictionary 
between sessions?


My words are saved under $HOME/.config/enchant/en_US.dic .  My system is 
slightly different (debian testing, lyx-2.0.6 --- which, by the way, you 
can install in Ubuntu since it comes from debian).


Check to make sure those directories are present (well, of course, with 
that other language...), and that they are writable.   Permissions 
problems used to be more common, but still occur occasionally.


--

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Some people used to claim that, if enough monkeys sat in front of
enough typewriters and typed long enough, eventually one of them would
reproduce the collected works of Shakespeare.  The internet has
proven this not to be the case.

Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - update

[Les Denham]

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:46:05 +0100
Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:

 As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusuable for the book
 class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
 files?

Anthony,

If you're using the book class, by default you are assumed to have
chapters.

If two-sided page layout is selected, a Chapter environment will
automatically start on a right hand (odd numbered) page, inserting a
blank page where necessary. So starting the text body with a chapter
heading will solve the problem.

Is there any special reason why you are not using the Title, Author,
etc., environments for the title page?

Personally, I prefer to use the book(KOMA-script) class (a lot more
options, but defaults work well) or memoir class (an infinite number of
options, a lot of them different from anything else in LaTeX, and an
excellent manual, but a very steep learning curve), but the book class
should work for what you're doing. Attached is a sample file to show
what can be done.

Les

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MarginNoteTest.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Thank you for View-Update

[Bob Alvarez]

Thank you very much for View-Update (Ctrl+Shift+R). It's been in LyX
for many, many versions, but now it works, and it's a great help in
keeping the PDF I'm proofreading in sync with the file I'm modifying.



On my Windows 7 system the pdf viewer does not allow updates to the 
file.  Lyx gives me the error message:


I can't write on file ...

Does anyone know a way around this?

Bob

Re: Turning-off a command from a layout file?

[Richard Heck]

On 09/08/2013 10:03 PM, Christian Bustamante wrote:

When I do this:

DefaultModule theorems-ams
NoStyle Problem
Style Problem
LatexTypecommand
LatexNameproblem
LabelStringProblem:
LatexTypeEnvironment
OptionalArgs 1
End

The Theorems AMS module overwrite my Problem style in the dropdown 
styles menu. When trying to compile, it says LaTeX Error: Command 
\problem already defined. I tried changing the order:


NoStyle Problem
DefaultModule theorems-ams
Style Problem
...
End

with the same result. I am attaching my layout file if someone want to 
see it.


You should probably do

Input theorems-ams
ProvidesModule theorems-ams

The DefaultModule stuff just says to load the module, by default, when 
modules are loaded, which will happen AFTER the layout stuff is loaded. 
That is why your declaration gets over-written. When you use Input, the 
file is loaded immediately.


Richard

Re: Lyx not saving words to personal dictionary

[Alfredo Maldonado Guerra]

Hi David, 

Thanks for your help. Indeed the problem was due to a permission issue in the 
$HOME/.config/enchant directory. The directory and its contents were owned by 
root. I changed ownership to myself and I'm able to save words to the personal 
dictionary (which is a file inside this directory).

Thanks again!
Alfredo

Re: Lyx not saving words to personal dictionary

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:43 AM, David L. Johnson
david.john...@lehigh.eduwrote:

  On 09/09/2013 10:29 AM, Alfredo Maldonado Guerra wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm using LyX 2.0.3 under Ubuntu 13.04. (The 2.0.3 version is the latest
 available in the Ubuntu repositories at the moment).

 I'm using the default spellchecker engine (Enchant), language = English
 (UK).

 When I add a word not recognised by the spellchecker to my personal
 dictionary LyX stops highlighting it in red, as expected. However, when I
 close the program and open it again, I notice that all of the words that I
 added to the personal dictionary are again highlighted in red, making me
 believe that they were not added to my personal dictionary. Of course,
 adding words every time I start a new LyX session is quite cumbersome.

 How can I make LyX remember words added to the personal dictionary between
 sessions?


 My words are saved under $HOME/.config/enchant/en_US.dic .  My system is
 slightly different (debian testing, lyx-2.0.6 --- which, by the way, you
 can install in Ubuntu since it comes from debian).

 Check to make sure those directories are present (well, of course, with
 that other language...), and that they are writable.   Permissions problems
 used to be more common, but still occur occasionally.

 Hmm, so I have had the same problem for a long time, but with hunspell.
David's message prompted to check its man page and indeed, tha page says
that the personal dictionary is saved in
$HOME/.hunspell_default

which did not exist in my case. Creating it not solve the problem, however.
It remains empty after I save words to the personal dictionary from within
LyX. Anyone has any clue on how to fix this? The wiki page is silent on the
issue.

Cheers,

Stefano

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Questions

[Nathaniel Hilger]

Hello,

I'd like to ask a few simple questions.

-Where do I find a User's Guide for mac Lyx? Many of the keyboard
shortcuts in the standard User's Guide do not seem to work on Mac.

-How do I toggle between open files in different tabs using shortcuts in
Mac Lyx? Right now I am clicking with my mouse.

-How do I nest a bullet into a bullet, to get cascading bullets on Mac Lyx?
The suggested shortcuts do not work for me.

-Is this the right email for me to send these kinds of questions?

Thank you,
Nate

Re: Thank you for View-Update

[Paul A . Rubin]

I suspect your PDF viewer is Acrobat Reader, which has the unfortunate
(ill-conceived, misbegotten) habit of putting a write lock on a file while
displaying it. Option 1 is to switch to a different PDF viewer. (There are
several good few ones for Windows.) Option 2 is to change your viewer to a
script (batch file) that closes Reader and then reopens it. Some years back
there was such a script that I think was included with at least one Windows
port of LyX (Uwe's bundle?). You might be able to find it archived on the wiki.

Paul

Re: Questions

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.09.2013 um 20:46 schrieb Nathaniel Hilger natei...@gmail.com:

 Hello,
 
 I'd like to ask a few simple questions.
 
 -Where do I find a User's Guide for mac Lyx? Many of the keyboard shortcuts 
 in the standard User's Guide do not seem to work on Mac. 

All the documents shipped with LyX are available below the Help menu.
Probably you're looking for the document Shortcuts.

 -How do I toggle between open files in different tabs using shortcuts in Mac 
 Lyx? Right now I am clicking with my mouse.

In theory it's Control-Tab or Shift-Control-Tab. But it doesn't work for me, 
too :(

 -How do I nest a bullet into a bullet, to get cascading bullets on Mac Lyx? 
 The suggested shortcuts do not work for me.

For me the Tab key works.

 -Is this the right email for me to send these kinds of questions?

Yes.

Kind regards,
Stephan

Re: Questions

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.09.2013 um 21:47 schrieb Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net:

 Am 09.09.2013 um 20:46 schrieb Nathaniel Hilger natei...@gmail.com:
 
 Hello,
 
 I'd like to ask a few simple questions.
 
 -Where do I find a User's Guide for mac Lyx? Many of the keyboard 
 shortcuts in the standard User's Guide do not seem to work on Mac. 
 
 All the documents shipped with LyX are available below the Help menu.
 Probably you're looking for the document Shortcuts.
 
 -How do I toggle between open files in different tabs using shortcuts in Mac 
 Lyx? Right now I am clicking with my mouse.
 
 In theory it's Control-Tab or Shift-Control-Tab. But it doesn't work for me, 
 too :(

However, you may configure an alternate shortcut yourself.

- Open preferences (Command-,)
- Go to Edit - Shortcuts
- Add a shortcut for
 * buffer-next
 * buffer-previous
E.g. Control-Page-Down resp. Control-Page-Up. On a macbook you have to use 
Control-Fn-Down resp. -Up instead.

Stephan

 
 -How do I nest a bullet into a bullet, to get cascading bullets on Mac Lyx? 
 The suggested shortcuts do not work for me.
 
 For me the Tab key works.
 
 -Is this the right email for me to send these kinds of questions?
 
 Yes.
 
 Kind regards,
 Stephan
 

Re: Reverse search with xdvi

[Pavel Sanda]

Fabio S. wrote:
   direct search:
   Tools-Preferences-Output-General
xdvi -nofork -sourceposition $$n $$t $$o -editor 
 lyxeditor.sh %f
 %l

 -nofork part is needed because of the pipe?

 I guess: the point is that without -nofork if you have xdvi already open,
 lyx starts a new instance every time you execute direct search.
 I also addedd the -editor option.

 Have you really tried without nofork option?
 I just tried the standard call
 xdvi -sourceposition 445:example.tex example.dvi
 and no new instance was opened, instead it correctly jumped in already 
 existing
 viewer.

 Yes, I really tried both and it was like I described. I am sure: I clearly 
 remember having two open instances of xdvi.
 But now I tried again and it works correctly even without the nofork 
 options.

 I can't understand what is happening! I am puzzled. :(

Ok. I committed the rest of changes already. Pavel

Re: Questions

[Nathaniel Hilger]

Great, thank you!
Nate


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am 09.09.2013 um 20:46 schrieb Nathaniel Hilger natei...@gmail.com:

  Hello,
 
  I'd like to ask a few simple questions.
 
  -Where do I find a User's Guide for mac Lyx? Many of the keyboard
 shortcuts in the standard User's Guide do not seem to work on Mac.

 All the documents shipped with LyX are available below the Help menu.
 Probably you're looking for the document Shortcuts.

  -How do I toggle between open files in different tabs using shortcuts in
 Mac Lyx? Right now I am clicking with my mouse.

 In theory it's Control-Tab or Shift-Control-Tab. But it doesn't work for
 me, too :(

  -How do I nest a bullet into a bullet, to get cascading bullets on Mac
 Lyx? The suggested shortcuts do not work for me.

 For me the Tab key works.

  -Is this the right email for me to send these kinds of questions?

 Yes.

 Kind regards,
 Stephan

Widows and Orphans

[Gordon Cooper]

  Is there a simple answer to the typesetting widow  orphan
problem in Lyx/latex? I see that there are various suggestions
offered in the manuals but they all seem to result in the need
for a bit of text adjustment (fiddling) as the final step before
printing.

Gordon
Tauranga.

Re: Turning-off a command from a layout file?

[Christian Bustamante]

I tried with

Input theorems-ams.module
ProvidesModule theorems-ams

and in fact the only problem style that appears in the drop-down menu is my
style. However, when I try to compile the document, I'm still getting
LaTeX Error: Command \problem already defined. In the description part
says \newtheorem{problem}[thm]{\protect\problemname} Your command was
ignored...





On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:

  On 09/08/2013 10:03 PM, Christian Bustamante wrote:

  When I do this:

  DefaultModule theorems-ams
 NoStyle Problem
 Style Problem
  LatexType command
  LatexName problem
  LabelString Problem:
  LatexType Environment
  OptionalArgs 1
 End

  The Theorems AMS module overwrite my Problem style in the dropdown
 styles menu. When trying to compile, it says LaTeX Error: Command \problem
 already defined. I tried changing the order:

  NoStyle Problem
 DefaultModule theorems-ams
 Style Problem
  ...
 End

  with the same result. I am attaching my layout file if someone want to
 see it.


 You should probably do

 Input theorems-ams
 ProvidesModule theorems-ams

 The DefaultModule stuff just says to load the module, by default, when
 modules are loaded, which will happen AFTER the layout stuff is loaded.
 That is why your declaration gets over-written. When you use Input, the
 file is loaded immediately.

 Richard




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Re: RCS user name

[Sam Lewis]

Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane todd.denniston at navy.mil
writes:

 check the file in, but do not check back out a LOCKED copy of the file,
 and then you should be able to
 checkout a LOCKED copy on the other computer.
 
 Version Control is GOOD :)

Very useful! 

Thanks!
Sam

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Ken Springer]

Eberhard, Charlie, and Anders,

I think my reply works better if I answer all of you with just the one 
reply, otherwise there would be a lot of duplication of effort on my part.


On 9/9/13 8:34 AM, Anders Ekberg wrote:

On 2013-09-09 15:23, Charlie aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote:


On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:54:39 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com sent
this:

I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it.

snip

  With the risk that I also might have missed the point. I think it was
  suggested that if you RTFM. Your question will be answered and there
  would be no need to post to the list.


If I understood it correctly, the point was bundling TeX and LyX. This
would probably make it easier for first-timers. But the download would be
massive, which persons who just update LyX probably would not like.
Downloading if needed would require a script that someone would need to
create and (not the least) maintain.

As for documentation I personally think the wiki, Tutorial and User's
guide are excellent. But I am probably blind for difficulties a beginner
faces. Unfortunately I think those that have the difficulties fresh in
mind, and are the ones that I think should update
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac (or create a Beginner's video guide or
whatever they find would be helpful and is currently missing for a
beginner) are often hesitant to do this since they think they are not
experienced enough. So we have a bit of a catch 22Š


A lot of my original message, Message-ID: l0f8nq$iib$1...@ger.gmane.org, 
was intended to refer to the true newbie/beginner.  I'm just too damned 
old to be a newbie! LOL


And a lot was meant to refer to the website itself, not the program or 
documentation.


Anders is correct, I was talking about the bundling of LyX and some kind 
of TeX program.  Anders brings up a point about folks who only need the 
update to LyX as opposed to someone needing the whole package.  If you 
use Windows, that's an option already.  There are two packages 
available, one for the person needing everything, like me, and one who 
only needs to update LyX.  If it can be done for Windows, why can't it 
be done for the Mac?  I don't know about any Linux versions, but I'd 
still have the same question.


I've not had the chance to check the documentation for LyX, but my 
experiences with documentation, especially on the web, is it's 
incomplete and disjointed.  There's no organization.  No index.  And my 
questions are never answered.  Neither do I get answers from forums, 
from almost anyone.  Commercial or open source.  I've been trying to get 
a networking question between OS X and Windows answered for 3 months.  I 
finally have some thing that's workable, but it's a kludge and ignores 
any and all sharing restrictions.


As for the website, or documentation for that matter, my mind always 
defaults to the lowest common denominator.  How would a person who 
doesn't know how to spell LyX respond to what is on the site?  With the 
people in my past, I'd say they would look at the site, and walk away 
from LyX.  I doubt that is what the developers would like.


If the truly new person, who found LyX using search engine, walks away 
from LyX because nothing makes any sense to them, LyX has possibly lost 
a convert.


One problem I've found with documentation is, it's almost always 
incomplete and out of date.  (Remember, this is a general impression, 
I've not had the time to read the LyX documentation.)  Even the LyX site 
appears to be out of date regarding installation under Mountain Lion. 
The site mentions ML's Gatekeeper, and how to get around it.  But the 
Gatekeeper wasn't a problem for me.  Somebody apparently fixed the 
issue, but the site is out of date on that.


I don't know if this has made anything more understandable or not, but 
I'm out of time for today.   :-(



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Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.04

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Please google what RTFM measn :-)-O

el

On 2013-09-07 15:12 , Ken Springer wrote:
> On 9/7/13 3:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:
>> Am 07.09.2013 um 03:19 schrieb Ken Springer :
>>
>>> Having resolved my issue with the LyX installation on my Mac, I also
>>> have installed it under Windows 7.  Also appears to work fine.
>>>
>>> This has left me wondering about installation packages for different
>>> OS's.
>>>
>>> Why is it, that if it's a Windows program, if a supporting program is
>>> needed to make the program run, in this case, the supporting program
>>> is also included in the program's installation package.  But, when
>>> the program goes into OS X, the supporting program isn't included in
>>> the installation package.
>>>
>>> If the Mac LyX package for OS X had included the supporting program,
>>> I would never have had a problem.LOL
>>
>> What support do you have in mind? The installation of a usable TeX
>> system?
> 
> Exactly.  When you install the Windows "bundle", it includes MikTeX and
> JabRef(?), not sure if that's exactly right.  Isn't JabRef a
> bibliography thing?  (This is new to me.)  So a new user like me doesn't
> have to worry about making sure that when LyX is installed on Windows
> for the first time, it's a fully functional system.  But on the Mac,
> that doesn't happen.  The Mac LyX package does not include a TeX system,
> and I'm guessing no bibliography option.  So if a new user got a copy of
> LyX from some free software place, it's not going to work "right out of
> the box", and the user isn't going to be happy.  I don't know what the
> user gets if it's for Linux.
> 
> I just now looked a bit more at the LyX site, and it's intimidating to a
> new user, lots of things there that may as well be written in a foreign
> language if you are completely new to typography and the LyX world. Even
> more so if you are relatively new to computers.  (Something every site
> for every platform has become.  They totally ignore the "newbie"
> concept, and I'd bet turn off a lot of potential new users/converts.)
> 
> 

Re: Problem with framed box

[Anthony Campbell]

On 08 Sep 2013, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> Which margins are violated, left/right or top/bottom? You can set the width
> of a box in it's settings menu.
> 
> Paul


It was left/right. But thanks for the tip about setting the width - I
hadn't managed to find that, but it's exactly what I was looking for.

Anthony

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Re: Reverse search with xdvi

[Fabio S.]

direct search:
Tools->Preferences->Output->General
 xdvi -nofork -sourceposition "$$n $$t" $$o -editor 
"lyxeditor.sh %f
%l"


"-nofork" part is needed because of the pipe?


I guess: the point is that without -nofork if you have xdvi already open,
lyx starts a new instance every time you execute direct search.
I also addedd the -editor option.


Have you really tried without nofork option?
I just tried the standard call
xdvi -sourceposition 445:example.tex example.dvi
and no new instance was opened, instead it correctly jumped in already existing
viewer.


Yes, I really tried both and it was like I described. I am sure: I clearly 
remember having two open instances of xdvi.
But now I tried again and it works correctly even without the nofork 
options.


I can't understand what is happening! I am puzzled. :(

F.

Lambda not shown

[Philipp Gröne]

Hello!

Lowercase-lambdas are not shown in my Lyx-documents. Uppercase Deltas are  
shown.
The Preset I use is thesis (chapter-1 or chapter-2, does not matter). I  
activated "Non-Tex-Fonts" in the Document-Options. If I don't do that,  
deltas aren't shown, either. I use LuaTex.


A minimal example is attached.

I hope I provided all necessary information. Thanks in advance!
Ph.

Minimalnolambda.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - update

[Anthony Campbell]

On 02 Sep 2013, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I'm writing a book (book class) in which I want to have marginal notes
> containing symbols, rather like the Dummies series. As it's a book I'm
> using the two-sided layout.
> 
> This works OK using the marginal note command, but after I put a blank
> page at the beginning (needed to make the title page etc. appear on the
> correct side), the marginal notes come out on the wrong sides of the
> pages in the body of the text. 
> 
> I found the command \reversemarginpar, which corrects the error except
> that the notes are now too far away from the text, right at the edge of
> the page. 
> 
> Any way to fix this? I tried adding width arguments, e.g. [width=12pt]
> and [width=0.5in] without effect.
> 

Since no one has answered this I have dug further and come up with this
bug report from 1999, saying that it is due to a deep problem in the
Latex engine:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg05248.html

The only workaround suggested is to put \clearpage or \eject above the
section header, but of course this introduces an unwanted page break. 

As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusuable for the book
class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
files?

Anthony

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europs.sty missing after Debian upgrade

[Dominik Vogt]

I've been using the g-brief template from lyx on Debian 6 for
quite some while:

  LyX 1.6.7 (2010-07-10)
  Built on Jul 17 2010, 16:08:48
  ...
Special build flags:  aiksaurus warnings  use-enchant use-ispell
LyX binary dir:   /usr/bin
LyX files dir:/usr/share/lyx

After upgrading the system to Debian 7.1,

  LyX 2.0.3 (2012-02-19)
  Built on May 30 2012, 18:11:59
  ...
Special build flags:  build=release warnings use-enchant
LyX binary dir:   /usr/bin
LyX files dir:/usr/share/lyx

the old g-brief letters produce an error message when opened:

  The selected document class letter (g-brief) requires external
  files that are not available, The document class can still be
  used, but the document cannot be compiled until the following
  prerequisites are installed: europs.sty

(The same happens if I create a new document from the g-brief-de
or the g-brief2 template.)

I have already reconfigured LyX (Tools -> Reconfigure).

It looks like europs.sty is no longer part of the package
texlive-fonts-recommended.

How can I fix this fix this situation?

Please cc me on replies, I'm not subscribed to the list.

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Ken Springer]

I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it.

You missed the point of my post, but I don't have time to explain at the 
moment.  Work calls.  :-(



On 9/9/13 12:47 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Please google what RTFM measn :-)-O

el

On 2013-09-07 15:12 , Ken Springer wrote:

On 9/7/13 3:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 07.09.2013 um 03:19 schrieb Ken Springer :


Having resolved my issue with the LyX installation on my Mac, I also
have installed it under Windows 7.  Also appears to work fine.

This has left me wondering about installation packages for different
OS's.

Why is it, that if it's a Windows program, if a supporting program is
needed to make the program run, in this case, the supporting program
is also included in the program's installation package.  But, when
the program goes into OS X, the supporting program isn't included in
the installation package.

If the Mac LyX package for OS X had included the supporting program,
I would never have had a problem.LOL


What support do you have in mind? The installation of a usable TeX
system?


Exactly.  When you install the Windows "bundle", it includes MikTeX and
JabRef(?), not sure if that's exactly right.  Isn't JabRef a
bibliography thing?  (This is new to me.)  So a new user like me doesn't
have to worry about making sure that when LyX is installed on Windows
for the first time, it's a fully functional system.  But on the Mac,
that doesn't happen.  The Mac LyX package does not include a TeX system,
and I'm guessing no bibliography option.  So if a new user got a copy of
LyX from some free software place, it's not going to work "right out of
the box", and the user isn't going to be happy.  I don't know what the
user gets if it's for Linux.

I just now looked a bit more at the LyX site, and it's intimidating to a
new user, lots of things there that may as well be written in a foreign
language if you are completely new to typography and the LyX world. Even
more so if you are relatively new to computers.  (Something every site
for every platform has become.  They totally ignore the "newbie"
concept, and I'd bet turn off a lot of potential new users/converts.)



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Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Charlie]

 On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:54:39 -0600 "Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com" sent
 this:

>I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it.



  With the risk that I also might have missed the point. I think it was
  suggested that if you RTFM. Your question will be answered and there
  would be no need to post to the list.

Hope that helps you.
Charlie
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-

Queries

[Doris]

Dear Sir/Mdm,
 
I am a first time user of Lyx (or LaTex) and therefore completely new to it. I 
installed the software for Mac, read the Intro and as I started the tutorial, i 
was unfortunately already stuck at the first step.
I am not able to create a PDF file as the 'eyeballs' icon are in grey and thus 
do not work.
 
Could you kindly tell me if you know what could be the problem?
 
Also, each time i open a file under HELP function, i get a message with a 
yellow triangle that says:
 
'The selected document class book requires external files that are not 
available etc'. Is this normal?
 
Thank you.
 
regards,
Doris

Re: Queries

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Doris  wrote:

> Dear Sir/Mdm,
>
> I am a first time user of Lyx (or LaTex) and therefore completely new to
> it. I installed the software for Mac, read the Intro and as I started the
> tutorial, i was unfortunately already stuck at the first step.
> I am not able to create a PDF file as the 'eyeballs' icon are in grey and
> thus do not work.
>
> Could you kindly tell me if you know what could be the problem?
>
> Also, each time i open a file under HELP function, i get a message with a
> yellow triangle that says:
>
> 'The selected document class book requires external files that are not
> available etc'. Is this normal?
>
>


Hi Doris,

you probably need to install MacTeX, the MAc version of TeX, typographic
engine that convert lyx files into pdf. You may want to look at the LyX
wiki page on Mac installation for instructions: http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac.
Here is an excerpt on MacTex, which includes the link to the MacTeX site :

Prerequisite

You need a TeX installation. The easiest option is to use
MacTeX.
The .dmg file for a complete MacTeX installation is very large (> 1 GB),
but it is a very complete distribution and installs right out of the box.
MacTeX includes all the components necessary for TeX to work, and includes
the bibliography managing program BibDesk.

Users with slower download speeds might want to download BasicTeX, a much
smaller distribution, linked from the MacTeX page.




Cheers,

Stefano


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Lyx not saving words to personal dictionary

[Alfredo Maldonado Guerra]

Hello,

I'm using LyX 2.0.3 under Ubuntu 13.04. (The 2.0.3 version is the latest 
available in the Ubuntu repositories at the moment).

I'm using the default spellchecker engine (Enchant), language = English (UK).

When I add a word not recognised by the spellchecker to my personal dictionary 
LyX stops highlighting it in red, as expected. However, when I close the 
program and open it again, I notice that all of the words that I added to the 
personal dictionary are again highlighted in red, making me believe that they 
were not added to my personal dictionary. Of course, adding words every time I 
start a new LyX session is quite cumbersome. 

How can I make LyX remember words added to the personal dictionary between 
sessions? 

Thanks for your help in advance.

Alfredo

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Anders Ekberg]

On 2013-09-09 15:23, "Charlie"  wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:54:39 -0600 "Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com" sent
> this:
>
>   >I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it.
>
>
>
>  With the risk that I also might have missed the point. I think it was
>  suggested that if you RTFM. Your question will be answered and there
>  would be no need to post to the list.

If I understood it correctly, the point was bundling TeX and LyX. This
would probably make it easier for first-timers. But the download would be
massive, which persons who just update LyX probably would not like.
Downloading "if needed" would require a script that someone would need to
create and (not the least) maintain.

As for documentation I personally think the wiki, Tutorial and User's
guide are excellent. But I am probably blind for difficulties a beginner
faces. Unfortunately I think those that have the difficulties fresh in
mind, and are the ones that I think should update
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac (or create a "Beginner's video guide" or
whatever they find would be helpful and is currently missing for a
beginner) are often hesitant to do this since they think they are not
experienced enough. So we have a bit of a catch 22Š

All the best!
Anders

Re: Lyx not saving words to personal dictionary

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/09/2013 10:29 AM, Alfredo Maldonado Guerra wrote:

Hello,

I'm using LyX 2.0.3 under Ubuntu 13.04. (The 2.0.3 version is the 
latest available in the Ubuntu repositories at the moment).


I'm using the default spellchecker engine (Enchant), language = 
English (UK).


When I add a word not recognised by the spellchecker to my personal 
dictionary LyX stops highlighting it in red, as expected. However, 
when I close the program and open it again, I notice that all of the 
words that I added to the personal dictionary are again highlighted in 
red, making me believe that they were not added to my personal 
dictionary. Of course, adding words every time I start a new LyX 
session is quite cumbersome.


How can I make LyX remember words added to the personal dictionary 
between sessions?


My words are saved under $HOME/.config/enchant/en_US.dic .  My system is 
slightly different (debian testing, lyx-2.0.6 --- which, by the way, you 
can install in Ubuntu since it comes from debian).


Check to make sure those directories are present (well, of course, with 
that other language...), and that they are writable.   Permissions 
problems used to be more common, but still occur occasionally.


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enough typewriters and typed long enough, eventually one of them would
reproduce the collected works of Shakespeare.  The internet has
proven this not to be the case.

Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - update

[Les Denham]

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:46:05 +0100
Anthony Campbell  wrote:

> As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusuable for the book
> class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
> files?

Anthony,

If you're using the book class, by default you are assumed to have
chapters.

If two-sided page layout is selected, a Chapter environment will
automatically start on a right hand (odd numbered) page, inserting a
blank page where necessary. So starting the text body with a chapter
heading will solve the problem.

Is there any special reason why you are not using the Title, Author,
etc., environments for the title page?

Personally, I prefer to use the book(KOMA-script) class (a lot more
options, but defaults work well) or memoir class (an infinite number of
options, a lot of them different from anything else in LaTeX, and an
excellent manual, but a very steep learning curve), but the book class
should work for what you're doing. Attached is a sample file to show
what can be done.

Les

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MarginNoteTest.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Thank you for View->Update

[Bob Alvarez]

Thank you very much for View->Update (Ctrl+Shift+R). It's been in LyX
for many, many versions, but now it works, and it's a great help in
keeping the PDF I'm proofreading in sync with the file I'm modifying.



On my Windows 7 system the pdf viewer does not allow updates to the 
file.  Lyx gives me the error message:


"I can't write on file ..."

Does anyone know a way around this?

Bob

Re: Turning-off a command from a layout file?

[Richard Heck]

On 09/08/2013 10:03 PM, Christian Bustamante wrote:

When I do this:

DefaultModule theorems-ams
NoStyle Problem
Style Problem
LatexTypecommand
LatexNameproblem
LabelString"Problem:"
LatexTypeEnvironment
OptionalArgs 1
End

The Theorems AMS module overwrite my Problem style in the dropdown 
styles menu. When trying to compile, it says "LaTeX Error: Command 
\problem already defined". I tried changing the order:


NoStyle Problem
DefaultModule theorems-ams
Style Problem
...
End

with the same result. I am attaching my layout file if someone want to 
see it.


You should probably do

Input theorems-ams
ProvidesModule theorems-ams

The DefaultModule stuff just says to load the module, by default, when 
modules are loaded, which will happen AFTER the layout stuff is loaded. 
That is why your declaration gets over-written. When you use Input, the 
file is loaded immediately.


Richard

Re: Lyx not saving words to personal dictionary

[Alfredo Maldonado Guerra]

Hi David, 

Thanks for your help. Indeed the problem was due to a permission issue in the 
$HOME/.config/enchant directory. The directory and its contents were owned by 
root. I changed ownership to myself and I'm able to save words to the personal 
dictionary (which is a file inside this directory).

Thanks again!
Alfredo

Re: Lyx not saving words to personal dictionary

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:43 AM, David L. Johnson
wrote:

>  On 09/09/2013 10:29 AM, Alfredo Maldonado Guerra wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm using LyX 2.0.3 under Ubuntu 13.04. (The 2.0.3 version is the latest
> available in the Ubuntu repositories at the moment).
>
> I'm using the default spellchecker engine (Enchant), language = English
> (UK).
>
> When I add a word not recognised by the spellchecker to my personal
> dictionary LyX stops highlighting it in red, as expected. However, when I
> close the program and open it again, I notice that all of the words that I
> added to the personal dictionary are again highlighted in red, making me
> believe that they were not added to my personal dictionary. Of course,
> adding words every time I start a new LyX session is quite cumbersome.
>
> How can I make LyX remember words added to the personal dictionary between
> sessions?
>
>
> My words are saved under $HOME/.config/enchant/en_US.dic .  My system is
> slightly different (debian testing, lyx-2.0.6 --- which, by the way, you
> can install in Ubuntu since it comes from debian).
>
> Check to make sure those directories are present (well, of course, with
> that other language...), and that they are writable.   Permissions problems
> used to be more common, but still occur occasionally.
>
> Hmm, so I have had the same problem for a long time, but with hunspell.
David's message prompted to check its man page and indeed, tha page says
that the personal dictionary is saved in
$HOME/.hunspell_default

which did not exist in my case. Creating it not solve the problem, however.
It remains empty after I save words to the personal dictionary from within
LyX. Anyone has any clue on how to fix this? The wiki page is silent on the
issue.

Cheers,

Stefano

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Questions

[Nathaniel Hilger]

Hello,

I'd like to ask a few simple questions.

-Where do I find a "User's Guide" for mac Lyx? Many of the keyboard
shortcuts in the standard User's Guide do not seem to work on Mac.

-How do I toggle between open files in different tabs using shortcuts in
Mac Lyx? Right now I am clicking with my mouse.

-How do I nest a bullet into a bullet, to get cascading bullets on Mac Lyx?
The suggested shortcuts do not work for me.

-Is this the right email for me to send these kinds of questions?

Thank you,
Nate

Re: Thank you for View->Update

[Paul A . Rubin]

I suspect your PDF viewer is Acrobat Reader, which has the unfortunate
(ill-conceived, misbegotten) habit of putting a write lock on a file while
displaying it. Option 1 is to switch to a different PDF viewer. (There are
several good few ones for Windows.) Option 2 is to change your "viewer" to a
script (batch file) that closes Reader and then reopens it. Some years back
there was such a script that I think was included with at least one Windows
port of LyX (Uwe's bundle?). You might be able to find it archived on the wiki.

Paul

Re: Questions

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.09.2013 um 20:46 schrieb Nathaniel Hilger :

> Hello,
> 
> I'd like to ask a few simple questions.
> 
> -Where do I find a "User's Guide" for mac Lyx? Many of the keyboard shortcuts 
> in the standard User's Guide do not seem to work on Mac. 

All the documents shipped with LyX are available below the Help menu.
Probably you're looking for the document "Shortcuts".

> -How do I toggle between open files in different tabs using shortcuts in Mac 
> Lyx? Right now I am clicking with my mouse.

In theory it's Control-Tab or Shift-Control-Tab. But it doesn't work for me, 
too :(

> -How do I nest a bullet into a bullet, to get cascading bullets on Mac Lyx? 
> The suggested shortcuts do not work for me.

For me the Tab key works.

> -Is this the right email for me to send these kinds of questions?

Yes.

Kind regards,
Stephan

Re: Questions

[Stephan Witt]

Am 09.09.2013 um 21:47 schrieb Stephan Witt :

> Am 09.09.2013 um 20:46 schrieb Nathaniel Hilger :
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'd like to ask a few simple questions.
>> 
>> -Where do I find a "User's Guide" for mac Lyx? Many of the keyboard 
>> shortcuts in the standard User's Guide do not seem to work on Mac. 
> 
> All the documents shipped with LyX are available below the Help menu.
> Probably you're looking for the document "Shortcuts".
> 
>> -How do I toggle between open files in different tabs using shortcuts in Mac 
>> Lyx? Right now I am clicking with my mouse.
> 
> In theory it's Control-Tab or Shift-Control-Tab. But it doesn't work for me, 
> too :(

However, you may configure an alternate shortcut yourself.

- Open preferences (Command-,)
- Go to Edit -> Shortcuts
- Add a shortcut for
 * buffer-next
 * buffer-previous
E.g. Control-Page-Down resp. Control-Page-Up. On a macbook you have to use 
Control-Fn-Down resp. -Up instead.

Stephan

> 
>> -How do I nest a bullet into a bullet, to get cascading bullets on Mac Lyx? 
>> The suggested shortcuts do not work for me.
> 
> For me the Tab key works.
> 
>> -Is this the right email for me to send these kinds of questions?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Stephan
> 

Re: Reverse search with xdvi

[Pavel Sanda]

Fabio S. wrote:
>   direct search:
>   Tools->Preferences->Output->General
>xdvi -nofork -sourceposition "$$n $$t" $$o -editor 
> "lyxeditor.sh %f
> %l"

 "-nofork" part is needed because of the pipe?
>>>
>>> I guess: the point is that without -nofork if you have xdvi already open,
>>> lyx starts a new instance every time you execute direct search.
>>> I also addedd the -editor option.
>>
>> Have you really tried without nofork option?
>> I just tried the standard call
>> xdvi -sourceposition 445:example.tex example.dvi
>> and no new instance was opened, instead it correctly jumped in already 
>> existing
>> viewer.
>
> Yes, I really tried both and it was like I described. I am sure: I clearly 
> remember having two open instances of xdvi.
> But now I tried again and it works correctly even without the nofork 
> options.
>
> I can't understand what is happening! I am puzzled. :(

Ok. I committed the rest of changes already. Pavel

Re: Questions

[Nathaniel Hilger]

Great, thank you!
Nate


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Stephan Witt  wrote:

> Am 09.09.2013 um 20:46 schrieb Nathaniel Hilger :
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'd like to ask a few simple questions.
> >
> > -Where do I find a "User's Guide" for mac Lyx? Many of the keyboard
> shortcuts in the standard User's Guide do not seem to work on Mac.
>
> All the documents shipped with LyX are available below the Help menu.
> Probably you're looking for the document "Shortcuts".
>
> > -How do I toggle between open files in different tabs using shortcuts in
> Mac Lyx? Right now I am clicking with my mouse.
>
> In theory it's Control-Tab or Shift-Control-Tab. But it doesn't work for
> me, too :(
>
> > -How do I nest a bullet into a bullet, to get cascading bullets on Mac
> Lyx? The suggested shortcuts do not work for me.
>
> For me the Tab key works.
>
> > -Is this the right email for me to send these kinds of questions?
>
> Yes.
>
> Kind regards,
> Stephan
>
>

Widows and Orphans

[Gordon Cooper]

  Is there a simple answer to the typesetting widow & orphan
problem in Lyx/latex? I see that there are various suggestions
offered in the manuals but they all seem to result in the need
for a bit of text adjustment (fiddling) as the final step before
printing.

Gordon
Tauranga.

Re: Turning-off a command from a layout file?

[Christian Bustamante]

I tried with

Input theorems-ams.module
ProvidesModule theorems-ams

and in fact the only problem style that appears in the drop-down menu is my
style. However, when I try to compile the document, I'm still getting
"LaTeX Error: Command \problem already defined". In the description part
says "\newtheorem{problem}[thm]{\protect\problemname} Your command was
ignored..."





On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Richard Heck  wrote:

>  On 09/08/2013 10:03 PM, Christian Bustamante wrote:
>
>  When I do this:
>
>  DefaultModule theorems-ams
> NoStyle Problem
> Style Problem
>  LatexType command
>  LatexName problem
>  LabelString "Problem:"
>  LatexType Environment
>  OptionalArgs 1
> End
>
>  The Theorems AMS module overwrite my Problem style in the dropdown
> styles menu. When trying to compile, it says "LaTeX Error: Command \problem
> already defined". I tried changing the order:
>
>  NoStyle Problem
> DefaultModule theorems-ams
> Style Problem
>  ...
> End
>
>  with the same result. I am attaching my layout file if someone want to
> see it.
>
>
> You should probably do
>
> Input theorems-ams
> ProvidesModule theorems-ams
>
> The DefaultModule stuff just says to load the module, by default, when
> modules are loaded, which will happen AFTER the layout stuff is loaded.
> That is why your declaration gets over-written. When you use Input, the
> file is loaded immediately.
>
> Richard
>
>


-- 
CdeB

Re: RCS user name

[Sam Lewis]

Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane  navy.mil>
writes:

> check the file in, but do not check back out a LOCKED copy of the file,
> and then you should be able to
> checkout a LOCKED copy on the other computer.
> 
> Version Control is GOOD :)

Very useful! 

Thanks!
Sam

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

[Ken Springer]

Eberhard, Charlie, and Anders,

I think my reply works better if I answer all of you with just the one 
reply, otherwise there would be a lot of duplication of effort on my part.


On 9/9/13 8:34 AM, Anders Ekberg wrote:

On 2013-09-09 15:23, "Charlie"  wrote:


On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:54:39 -0600 "Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com" sent
this:

>I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it.



  With the risk that I also might have missed the point. I think it was
  suggested that if you RTFM. Your question will be answered and there
  would be no need to post to the list.


If I understood it correctly, the point was bundling TeX and LyX. This
would probably make it easier for first-timers. But the download would be
massive, which persons who just update LyX probably would not like.
Downloading "if needed" would require a script that someone would need to
create and (not the least) maintain.

As for documentation I personally think the wiki, Tutorial and User's
guide are excellent. But I am probably blind for difficulties a beginner
faces. Unfortunately I think those that have the difficulties fresh in
mind, and are the ones that I think should update
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac (or create a "Beginner's video guide" or
whatever they find would be helpful and is currently missing for a
beginner) are often hesitant to do this since they think they are not
experienced enough. So we have a bit of a catch 22Š


A lot of my original message, Message-ID: , 
was intended to refer to the true newbie/beginner.  I'm just too damned 
old to be a newbie! LOL


And a lot was meant to refer to the website itself, not the program or 
documentation.


Anders is correct, I was talking about the bundling of LyX and some kind 
of TeX program.  Anders brings up a point about folks who only need the 
update to LyX as opposed to someone needing the whole package.  If you 
use Windows, that's an option already.  There are two packages 
available, one for the person needing everything, like me, and one who 
only needs to update LyX.  If it can be done for Windows, why can't it 
be done for the Mac?  I don't know about any Linux versions, but I'd 
still have the same question.


I've not had the chance to check the documentation for LyX, but my 
experiences with documentation, especially on the web, is it's 
incomplete and disjointed.  There's no organization.  No index.  And my 
questions are never answered.  Neither do I get answers from forums, 
from almost anyone.  Commercial or open source.  I've been trying to get 
a networking question between OS X and Windows answered for 3 months.  I 
finally have some thing that's workable, but it's a kludge and ignores 
any and all sharing restrictions.


As for the website, or documentation for that matter, my mind always 
defaults to the lowest common denominator.  How would a person who 
doesn't know how to spell LyX respond to what is on the site?  With the 
people in my past, I'd say they would look at the site, and walk away 
from LyX.  I doubt that is what the developers would like.


If the truly new person, who found LyX using search engine, walks away 
from LyX because nothing makes any sense to them, LyX has possibly lost 
a convert.


One problem I've found with documentation is, it's almost always 
incomplete and out of date.  (Remember, this is a general impression, 
I've not had the time to read the LyX documentation.)  Even the LyX site 
appears to be out of date regarding installation under Mountain Lion. 
The site mentions ML's Gatekeeper, and how to get around it.  But the 
Gatekeeper wasn't a problem for me.  Somebody apparently fixed the 
issue, but the site is out of date on that.


I don't know if this has made anything more understandable or not, but 
I'm out of time for today.   :-(



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