Re: Sectioned and multiple references in the same document

2016-09-03 Thread John Kane
Ah yes,  I see your point. Trial and error to the nth degree. Still I think
those hints will help even if I am left saying "I am not going to write a
dissertation", NO, NO! Not with Miede's!

The unfortunate thing is that Miede's classicthesis is so seductive that
people writing books and monographs may get sucked in.  Come to think of
it, I already know one historian who intends to use it for his dissertation.
So we probably need any and every hint we can get.
Thanks

On 3 September 2016 at 08:01, Michael Berger  wrote:

>
> On 09/03/2016 03:57 AM, John Kane wrote:
>
> And what did you do---in LyX terms.   We can probably do the stubbornness
> ourselves, well some of us anyway.
>
> On 2 September 2016 at 06:52, Michael Berger  wrote:
>
>> Just managed to resolve the issue myself.
>>
>> Applied method: stubbornness mixed with trial and errors.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On 09/01/2016 05:08 PM, Michael Berger wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>
>>
> --
> John Kane
> Kingston ON Canada
>
> John, I do not feel competent to provide sort of directions what to do. I
> must have done too many
> things wrong from the beginning. So tracking back is not possible even if
> I wanted to.
> Furthermore, each case is most probably different.
> But if somebody needs help in setting up sectioned plus multiple
> bibliographies together (in a document
> based on Miede's classicthesis, using the master-child concept) I am
> prepared to share my experience.
>
> Lyx 2.1.3, classicthesis-LyX-v4.1, linguistic modules loaded
>
> Though, a couple of things make me wonder, e. g. the following:
> With me, sectioned bibliographies only work if using 'unsrt' or unsrtnat'
> which to me makes sense.
> The bibtopic documentation says that bibtopic does not work  with (or does
> not support?)  'unsrt'.
> But here it does and everything works just perfect without compromise.
> The style option in the first line of the ERT (screenshot) may be plain,
> plainnat, unsrt, unsrtnat or may
> even be removed without effecting the document or the format of any of its
> seven different bibliographies.
>
> The bibliography default style in both the master and the child is set to
> 'unsrtnat' and this one obviously
> determines the format of all the document's bibliographies.
>
> The child's preamble only has two lines:
>
> \usepackage[style=long,nolist]{glossaries}
>
> \usepackage{bibtopic}
>
> I hope my experience can be of help to other users although there may not
> be too many working on
>
> documents with similar structure and challenges.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>


-- 
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada


Re: spellchecker keybindings {Find next, Ignore & aDd} conflict with {File, Insert & Document}

2016-09-03 Thread Joe Philbrook

It would appear that on Sep 2, Scott Kostyshak did say:

> On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 09:52:13PM -0400, Joe Philbrook wrote:
> > 
> >  Ticket #10357 (new enhancement) 
> > 
> >  How did I do?
> 
> Looks good! I removed the keywords since we use a fixed set, which is
> described here:
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/TicketKeywords
> 
> I also categorized the bug as "dialogs".

 Thanks for making it more presentable...
 
> By the way, do you have any experience programming and could perhaps
> propose a patch if we decide what direction we want to go on this?

Not unless bash scripting counts.

> Thanks for making the ticket.

It was actually much easier to do than I expected.

-- 
Joe


Re: Remote X11 is slow for typing

2016-09-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Sep  3, 2016 at 10:48:57AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Sat, Sep  3, 2016 at 10:39:54AM -0400, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 10:26:13AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > Are there any tricks to using LyX with remote X11, beyond using
> > > -graphicssystem native?  That helps, but typing is still very slow, i.e. 
> > > one
> > > character change a second.
> > 
> > Yes see here:
> > https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg102675.html
> > 
> > Do any of those tricks work for you?
> 
> Well, the thread suggests ssh compression and the use of the
> graphicssystem option I was already using.  graphicssystem fixes things
> like window scrolling and menus, but it doesn't fix typing speed.

Sorry, I should have reported my version running on Debian Jessie:

LyX 2.1.2 (2014-09-16)
Built on Sep 29 2014, 11:07:17
Configuration
  Host type:x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:  build=release warnings use-enchant
  C++ Compiler: g++ (4.9.1)
  C++ Compiler LyX flags:
  C++ Compiler flags:   -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -g -O2 
-fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security
  Linker flags:
  Linker user flags:-Wl,-z,defs -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,-z,relro
  Qt 4 Frontend:
  Qt 4 version: 4.8.6
  Packaging:posix
  LyX binary dir:   /usr/bin
  LyX files dir:/usr/share/lyx

I think the crux of the problem is described in this email:

https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg102676.html

Unfourtunately QT (unline Java or GTK+) by default doesn't use X11's
rendering capabilities anymore - instead it rasterizes everything
itself and sends pre-rasterized image data to the X server.
For Lyx this means that when typing, QT always sends images back
instead of just the drawing commands.

There used to be options to revert back to using X11 drawing commands,
however I am not up to date in this matter.

It feels like -graphicssystem native has no effect on the rendering of
typing, while it does help almost everything else.

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Re: Remote X11 is slow for typing

2016-09-03 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 10:48:57AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Sat, Sep  3, 2016 at 10:39:54AM -0400, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 10:26:13AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > Are there any tricks to using LyX with remote X11, beyond using
> > > -graphicssystem native?  That helps, but typing is still very slow, i.e. 
> > > one
> > > character change a second.
> > 
> > Yes see here:
> > https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg102675.html
> > 
> > Do any of those tricks work for you?
> 
> Well, the thread suggests ssh compression and the use of the
> graphicssystem option I was already using.  graphicssystem fixes things
> like window scrolling and menus, but it doesn't fix typing speed.

I'm not sure then.

We should start a wiki page for SSH + LyX listing ways to improve speed,
since this question keeps coming up.

Scott


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Re: Remote X11 is slow for typing

2016-09-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Sep  3, 2016 at 10:39:54AM -0400, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 10:26:13AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Are there any tricks to using LyX with remote X11, beyond using
> > -graphicssystem native?  That helps, but typing is still very slow, i.e. one
> > character change a second.
> 
> Yes see here:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg102675.html
> 
> Do any of those tricks work for you?

Well, the thread suggests ssh compression and the use of the
graphicssystem option I was already using.  graphicssystem fixes things
like window scrolling and menus, but it doesn't fix typing speed.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  http://momjian.us
  EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com

+ As you are, so once was I. As I am, so you will be. +
+ Ancient Roman grave inscription +


Re: Remote X11 is slow for typing

2016-09-03 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 10:26:13AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Are there any tricks to using LyX with remote X11, beyond using
> -graphicssystem native?  That helps, but typing is still very slow, i.e. one
> character change a second.

Yes see here:
https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg102675.html

Do any of those tricks work for you?

Scott


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Remote X11 is slow for typing

2016-09-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
Are there any tricks to using LyX with remote X11, beyond using 
-graphicssystem native?  That helps, but typing is still very slow, i.e. 
one character change a second.


--
  Bruce Momjian  http://momjian.us
  EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com


Re: Sectioned and multiple references in the same document

2016-09-03 Thread Michael Berger


On 09/03/2016 03:57 AM, John Kane wrote:
And what did you do---in LyX terms.   We can probably do the 
stubbornness ourselves, well some of us anyway.


On 2 September 2016 at 06:52, Michael Berger > wrote:


Just managed to resolve the issue myself.

Applied method: stubbornness mixed with trial and errors.

cheers,

Michael


On 09/01/2016 05:08 PM, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi,

...



--
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada
John, I do not feel competent to provide sort of directions what to do. 
I must have done too many
things wrong from the beginning. So tracking back is not possible even 
if I wanted to.

Furthermore, each case is most probably different.
But if somebody needs help in setting up sectioned plus multiple 
bibliographies together (in a document
based on Miede's classicthesis, using the master-child concept) I am 
prepared to share my experience.


Lyx 2.1.3, classicthesis-LyX-v4.1, linguistic modules loaded

Though, a couple of things make me wonder, e. g. the following:
With me, sectioned bibliographies only work if using 'unsrt' or 
unsrtnat' which to me makes sense.
The bibtopic documentation says that bibtopic does not work  with (or 
does not support?)  'unsrt'.

But here it does and everything works just perfect without compromise.
The style option in the first line of the ERT (screenshot) may be plain, 
plainnat, unsrt, unsrtnat or may
even be removed without effecting the document or the format of any of 
its seven different bibliographies.


The bibliography default style in both the master and the child is set 
to 'unsrtnat' and this one obviously

determines the format of all the document's bibliographies.

The child's preamble only has two lines:

\usepackage[style=long,nolist]{glossaries}

\usepackage{bibtopic}

I hope my experience can be of help to other users although there may 
not be too many working on


documents with similar structure and challenges.

Cheers,

Michael





Re: problem with creating layout file for some class

2016-09-03 Thread Bieniasz Leslaw
The layout file was exactly as you suggested in the message included
below. 

Leslaw 

On 2016-08-13 17:21, Richard Heck wrote:

> On 08/13/2016 07:22 AM, Bieniasz Leslaw wrote: 
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am still using LyX 2.0 under Windows Vista, with MikTeX 2.0.
>> 
>> I am trying to use a LaTeX class provided by one scientific journal for
>> writing articles. I have installed the class, but I have a problem with
>> creating a *.layout file for LyX, that would work properly.
>> At the moment I use the following layout file:
>> 
>> #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
>> #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[ijnam]{amsart (ijnam)}
>> 
>> # Input general definitions
>> Input stdclass.inc
> 
> Since the class file was "generated by modifying amsart.cls", your best
> place to start would be:
> 
> #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
> #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[ijnam]{amsart (ijnam)}
> 
> Format 35
> 
> Input amsart.layout
> 
> If this does not help matters, then it would help me to see the TeX file
> that works.
> 
> Richard
> 
> PS Make sure to reply to the list.