Re: Tables and more tables

2010-09-10 Thread Todd Denniston
John Coppens wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
 Hello people,
 
 Two problems with tables:
 
 1) Scrolling:
 
 When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes
SNIP
 
 I already disabled the automatic table toolbar. The toolbar made things
 worse by causing extra scrolling.
 
 Is there any way to get a more predictable behaviour?
 

If the toolbar is of use to you, I have found that locking it in made the 
situation better.
to lock it in...
get into some standard text
select View-Toolbars
select Table (auto)

If you look back in View-Toolbars it will show a check mark next to Table 
(auto), and the Table
toolbar will stay stuck on LyX User Interface until you undo the check mark, 
thus less random scrolling.

I do this when I have a document in which I am doing a lot of table editing.
Hope this helps some.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Tables and more tables

2010-09-10 Thread Todd Denniston
John Coppens wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
 Hello people,
 
 Two problems with tables:
 
 1) Scrolling:
 
 When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes
SNIP
 
 I already disabled the automatic table toolbar. The toolbar made things
 worse by causing extra scrolling.
 
 Is there any way to get a more predictable behaviour?
 

If the toolbar is of use to you, I have found that locking it in made the 
situation better.
to lock it in...
get into some standard text
select View-Toolbars
select Table (auto)

If you look back in View-Toolbars it will show a check mark next to Table 
(auto), and the Table
toolbar will stay stuck on LyX User Interface until you undo the check mark, 
thus less random scrolling.

I do this when I have a document in which I am doing a lot of table editing.
Hope this helps some.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Tables and more tables

2010-09-10 Thread Todd Denniston
John Coppens wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
> Hello people,
> 
> Two problems with tables:
> 
> 1) Scrolling:
> 
> When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes

> 
> I already disabled the automatic table toolbar. The toolbar made things
> worse by causing extra scrolling.
> 
> Is there any way to get a more predictable behaviour?
> 

If the toolbar is of use to you, I have found that "locking" it in made the 
situation better.
to lock it in...
get into some standard text
select View->Toolbars
select "Table (auto)"

If you look back in View->Toolbars it will show a check mark next to "Table 
(auto)", and the Table
toolbar will stay stuck on LyX User Interface until you undo the check mark, 
thus less random scrolling.

I do this when I have a document in which I am doing a lot of table editing.
Hope this helps some.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: opening two tabs with outline on and closing one, crashes lyx.

2010-09-03 Thread Todd Denniston
Pavel Sanda wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
 Todd Denniston wrote:
 So is this affecting current lyx 1.6.x on other distros?
 
 not on gentoo. what qt version do you have installed?
 pavel
 

Just so I am sure,
when you open/fire up lyx for steps 5-10, the outline pane is already open?
to reproduce for me, outline *had* to be open already and I had to select 
*back* to the first tab.

rpm -qa qt\*
qt-3.3.6-23.el5
qt-devel-3.3.6-23.el5
qt4-4.2.1-1

and ldd indicates lyx is using qt4
ldd /usr/bin/lyx |grep -i qt
libQtGui.so.4 = /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0x0588b000)
libQtCore.so.4 = /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0x00373000)

Unfortunately the lyx debug package was not put in EPEL so the bt may be less 
than desired.

gdb lyx
set args -dbg 8  lyxcrash2.txt 21
run


Thanks for the time you have spent looking at this, you and the other reports 
are beginning to sound
like it may be a `CentOS/RHEL 5 has something too old`, which is possible. I am 
just glad lyx 1.6
runs at all on it.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
Starting program: /usr/bin/lyx -dbg 8  lyxcrash2.txt 21
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0xb7c86b90 (LWP 25250)]
Detaching after fork from child process 25251.

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x082da6d5 in lyx::Toc::item(lyx::DocIterator const) const ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0x082da6d5 in lyx::Toc::item(lyx::DocIterator const) const ()
#1  0x08551708 in lyx::frontend::TocModel::modelIndex(lyx::DocIterator const) 
const ()
#2  0x085519fb in lyx::frontend::TocModels::currentIndex(QString const) const
()
#3  0x086c54e7 in lyx::frontend::TocWidget::updateView() ()
#4  0x0850fcd2 in lyx::frontend::GuiView::updateDialogs() ()
#5  0x0850fe43 in lyx::frontend::GuiView::restartCursor() ()
#6  0x0823ccb9 in lyx::LyXFunc::dispatch(lyx::FuncRequest const) ()
#7  0x08221456 in lyx::dispatch(lyx::FuncRequest const) ()
#8  0x0855bc75 in lyx::frontend::Action::action() ()
#9  0x0855bd02 in lyx::frontend::Action::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, 
void**) ()
#10 0x00464100 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#11 0x0046435f in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, int, int, 
void**) () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#12 0x0598b171 in QAction::triggered(bool) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#13 0x0598be2f in QAction::activate(QAction::ActionEvent) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#14 0x05c89464 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#15 0x05c8bc26 in QMenu::mouseReleaseEvent(QMouseEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#16 0x059daae1 in QWidget::event(QEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#17 0x05c866fc in QMenu::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#18 0x05991810 in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#19 0x05994293 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#20 0x084ed2db in lyx::frontend::GuiApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
#21 0x059ed7c8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#22 0x059ec3df in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#23 0x05a0f275 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#24 0x00451ef1 in 
QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlagsQEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag) () from 
/usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#25 0x00451ffa in QEventLoop::exec(QFlagsQEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#26 0x0045459d in QCoreApplication::exec() ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#27 0x05991287 in QApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#28 0x0822d5be in lyx::LyX::exec(int, char**) ()
#29 0x081558f9 in main ()

Setting debug level to 8
Debugging `gui' (GUI handling)
GuiApplication.cpp(993): About to create new window with ID 0
GuiView.cpp(120): show banner: 1
Menus.cpp(1603): populating menu bar
Menus.cpp(1610): menu bar entries 8
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item File is a submenu named file
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Edit is a submenu named edit
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item View is a submenu named view
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Insert is a submenu named insert
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Navigate is a submenu named navigate
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Document is a submenu named document
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Tools is a submenu named tools
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Help is a submenu named help
GuiView.cpp(519): Passed Geometry 933x1180+512+-153
Menus.cpp(1649): Triggered menu: file
Menus.cpp(1194): populating menu 
Menus.cpp(1199):  *  menu entries 21
Menus.cpp(1194): populating menu file_lastfiles
Menus.cpp(1199):  *  menu entries 20
Menus.cpp(1194): populating menu file_vc
Menus.cpp(1196):ERROR: empty menu file_vc
Menus.cpp(1194): populating menu

Re: Re: opening two tabs with outline on and closing one, crashes lyx.

2010-09-03 Thread Todd Denniston
Pavel Sanda wrote, On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:01:37 -0700:
 
 if my guess is true, then 1.6.5 should work (i would happy to know this, so we
 can warn users to upgrade for newer Qt...)

Grab copy of EPEL way back...that I had almost removed
yum remove lyx
yum install lyx-1.6.5-5.el5
lyx #setup outline
lyx # test {no breakage}
lyx # test {get breakage}
gdb lyx
set args -dbg 8  lyxcrash2.txt 21
run
Starting program: /usr/bin/lyx -dbg 8  lyxcrash2.txt 21
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
warning: .dynamic section for /usr/lib/libmng.so.1 is not at the expected 
address
warning: difference appears to be caused by prelink, adjusting expectations
warning: .dynamic section for /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1 is not at the expected 
address
warning: difference appears to be caused by prelink, adjusting expectations
warning: .dynamic section for /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtXml.so.4 is not at the 
expected address
warning: difference appears to be caused by prelink, adjusting expectations
[New Thread 0xb7c81b90 (LWP 24928)]
Detaching after fork from child process 24929.

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x082d5ad5 in lyx::Toc::item(lyx::DocIterator const) const ()
(gdb) bt

[The BT is the same except the addresses changed. i.e.
#0  0x082d5ad5 #1  0x085457a8 #2  0x08545e1b ... #10 0x00c3c100 ... #29 
0x081548d9]
[lyxcrash2.txt is the same except I get newfile1  newfile2 instead of newfile2 
 newfile3, i.e.
under a different and new account]

BTW1 I tried with `rm ~/.lyx/ -fr` `yum install lyx-1.6.3-1.el5` and got the 
same fault.
BTW2 the deltas that Rex lists between 1.6.5 and 1.6.5-5 I doubt affect this:
* Sun Feb 14 2010 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 1.6.5-5
- FTBFS lyx-1.6.5-4.fc13: ImplicitDSOLinking (#565009)

* Thu Jan 21 2010 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 1.6.5-4
- -fonts: Provides: lyx-{cmex10,cmmi10,cmr10,cmsy10}-fonts

* Sat Jan 16 2010 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 1.6.5-3
- rebiuld (boost)
- use simple font template

* Wed Dec 09 2009 José Matos jama...@fc.up.pt - 1.6.5-2
- Add patch for autoconf 2.65 (F13+)

* Wed Dec 09 2009 José Matos jama...@fc.up.pt - 1.6.5-1
- lyx-1.6.5



 workaround is not to use outliner when switching buffers... ;)

Workaround is to not use outliner, and switch buffers, and then close one. ;)
I just happened to hit this yesterday because I happened to want (for the first 
time :) to close
JUST one buffer instead of the whole program.  Of course I ended up getting 
whole program shutdown. :)
I can generally live with that workaround, especially as it seems to affect not 
very many folks.

Thanks again.

-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: opening two tabs with outline on and closing one, crashes lyx.

2010-09-03 Thread Todd Denniston
Pavel Sanda wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
 Todd Denniston wrote:
 So is this affecting current lyx 1.6.x on other distros?
 
 not on gentoo. what qt version do you have installed?
 pavel
 

Just so I am sure,
when you open/fire up lyx for steps 5-10, the outline pane is already open?
to reproduce for me, outline *had* to be open already and I had to select 
*back* to the first tab.

rpm -qa qt\*
qt-3.3.6-23.el5
qt-devel-3.3.6-23.el5
qt4-4.2.1-1

and ldd indicates lyx is using qt4
ldd /usr/bin/lyx |grep -i qt
libQtGui.so.4 = /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0x0588b000)
libQtCore.so.4 = /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0x00373000)

Unfortunately the lyx debug package was not put in EPEL so the bt may be less 
than desired.

gdb lyx
set args -dbg 8  lyxcrash2.txt 21
run


Thanks for the time you have spent looking at this, you and the other reports 
are beginning to sound
like it may be a `CentOS/RHEL 5 has something too old`, which is possible. I am 
just glad lyx 1.6
runs at all on it.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
Starting program: /usr/bin/lyx -dbg 8  lyxcrash2.txt 21
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0xb7c86b90 (LWP 25250)]
Detaching after fork from child process 25251.

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x082da6d5 in lyx::Toc::item(lyx::DocIterator const) const ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0x082da6d5 in lyx::Toc::item(lyx::DocIterator const) const ()
#1  0x08551708 in lyx::frontend::TocModel::modelIndex(lyx::DocIterator const) 
const ()
#2  0x085519fb in lyx::frontend::TocModels::currentIndex(QString const) const
()
#3  0x086c54e7 in lyx::frontend::TocWidget::updateView() ()
#4  0x0850fcd2 in lyx::frontend::GuiView::updateDialogs() ()
#5  0x0850fe43 in lyx::frontend::GuiView::restartCursor() ()
#6  0x0823ccb9 in lyx::LyXFunc::dispatch(lyx::FuncRequest const) ()
#7  0x08221456 in lyx::dispatch(lyx::FuncRequest const) ()
#8  0x0855bc75 in lyx::frontend::Action::action() ()
#9  0x0855bd02 in lyx::frontend::Action::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, 
void**) ()
#10 0x00464100 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#11 0x0046435f in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, int, int, 
void**) () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#12 0x0598b171 in QAction::triggered(bool) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#13 0x0598be2f in QAction::activate(QAction::ActionEvent) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#14 0x05c89464 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#15 0x05c8bc26 in QMenu::mouseReleaseEvent(QMouseEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#16 0x059daae1 in QWidget::event(QEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#17 0x05c866fc in QMenu::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#18 0x05991810 in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#19 0x05994293 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#20 0x084ed2db in lyx::frontend::GuiApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
#21 0x059ed7c8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#22 0x059ec3df in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#23 0x05a0f275 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#24 0x00451ef1 in 
QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlagsQEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag) () from 
/usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#25 0x00451ffa in QEventLoop::exec(QFlagsQEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#26 0x0045459d in QCoreApplication::exec() ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#27 0x05991287 in QApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#28 0x0822d5be in lyx::LyX::exec(int, char**) ()
#29 0x081558f9 in main ()

Setting debug level to 8
Debugging `gui' (GUI handling)
GuiApplication.cpp(993): About to create new window with ID 0
GuiView.cpp(120): show banner: 1
Menus.cpp(1603): populating menu bar
Menus.cpp(1610): menu bar entries 8
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item File is a submenu named file
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Edit is a submenu named edit
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item View is a submenu named view
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Insert is a submenu named insert
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Navigate is a submenu named navigate
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Document is a submenu named document
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Tools is a submenu named tools
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Help is a submenu named help
GuiView.cpp(519): Passed Geometry 933x1180+512+-153
Menus.cpp(1649): Triggered menu: file
Menus.cpp(1194): populating menu 
Menus.cpp(1199):  *  menu entries 21
Menus.cpp(1194): populating menu file_lastfiles
Menus.cpp(1199):  *  menu entries 20
Menus.cpp(1194): populating menu file_vc
Menus.cpp(1196):ERROR: empty menu file_vc
Menus.cpp(1194): populating menu

Re: Re: opening two tabs with outline on and closing one, crashes lyx.

2010-09-03 Thread Todd Denniston
Pavel Sanda wrote, On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:01:37 -0700:
 
 if my guess is true, then 1.6.5 should work (i would happy to know this, so we
 can warn users to upgrade for newer Qt...)

Grab copy of EPEL way back...that I had almost removed
yum remove lyx
yum install lyx-1.6.5-5.el5
lyx #setup outline
lyx # test {no breakage}
lyx # test {get breakage}
gdb lyx
set args -dbg 8  lyxcrash2.txt 21
run
Starting program: /usr/bin/lyx -dbg 8  lyxcrash2.txt 21
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
warning: .dynamic section for /usr/lib/libmng.so.1 is not at the expected 
address
warning: difference appears to be caused by prelink, adjusting expectations
warning: .dynamic section for /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1 is not at the expected 
address
warning: difference appears to be caused by prelink, adjusting expectations
warning: .dynamic section for /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtXml.so.4 is not at the 
expected address
warning: difference appears to be caused by prelink, adjusting expectations
[New Thread 0xb7c81b90 (LWP 24928)]
Detaching after fork from child process 24929.

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x082d5ad5 in lyx::Toc::item(lyx::DocIterator const) const ()
(gdb) bt

[The BT is the same except the addresses changed. i.e.
#0  0x082d5ad5 #1  0x085457a8 #2  0x08545e1b ... #10 0x00c3c100 ... #29 
0x081548d9]
[lyxcrash2.txt is the same except I get newfile1  newfile2 instead of newfile2 
 newfile3, i.e.
under a different and new account]

BTW1 I tried with `rm ~/.lyx/ -fr` `yum install lyx-1.6.3-1.el5` and got the 
same fault.
BTW2 the deltas that Rex lists between 1.6.5 and 1.6.5-5 I doubt affect this:
* Sun Feb 14 2010 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 1.6.5-5
- FTBFS lyx-1.6.5-4.fc13: ImplicitDSOLinking (#565009)

* Thu Jan 21 2010 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 1.6.5-4
- -fonts: Provides: lyx-{cmex10,cmmi10,cmr10,cmsy10}-fonts

* Sat Jan 16 2010 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 1.6.5-3
- rebiuld (boost)
- use simple font template

* Wed Dec 09 2009 José Matos jama...@fc.up.pt - 1.6.5-2
- Add patch for autoconf 2.65 (F13+)

* Wed Dec 09 2009 José Matos jama...@fc.up.pt - 1.6.5-1
- lyx-1.6.5



 workaround is not to use outliner when switching buffers... ;)

Workaround is to not use outliner, and switch buffers, and then close one. ;)
I just happened to hit this yesterday because I happened to want (for the first 
time :) to close
JUST one buffer instead of the whole program.  Of course I ended up getting 
whole program shutdown. :)
I can generally live with that workaround, especially as it seems to affect not 
very many folks.

Thanks again.

-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: opening two tabs with outline on and closing one, crashes lyx.

2010-09-03 Thread Todd Denniston
Pavel Sanda wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
> Todd Denniston wrote:
>> So is this affecting current lyx 1.6.x on other distros?
> 
> not on gentoo. what qt version do you have installed?
> pavel
> 

Just so I am sure,
when you open/fire up lyx for steps 5-10, the outline pane is already open?
to reproduce for me, outline *had* to be open already and I had to select 
*back* to the first tab.

rpm -qa qt\*
qt-3.3.6-23.el5
qt-devel-3.3.6-23.el5
qt4-4.2.1-1

and ldd indicates lyx is using qt4
ldd /usr/bin/lyx |grep -i qt
libQtGui.so.4 => /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0x0588b000)
libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0x00373000)

Unfortunately the lyx debug package was not put in EPEL so the bt may be less 
than desired.

gdb lyx
set args -dbg 8 > lyxcrash2.txt 2>&1
run


Thanks for the time you have spent looking at this, you and the other reports 
are beginning to sound
like it may be a `CentOS/RHEL 5 has something too old`, which is possible. I am 
just glad lyx 1.6
runs at all on it.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
Starting program: /usr/bin/lyx -dbg 8 > lyxcrash2.txt 2>&1
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0xb7c86b90 (LWP 25250)]
Detaching after fork from child process 25251.

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x082da6d5 in lyx::Toc::item(lyx::DocIterator const&) const ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0x082da6d5 in lyx::Toc::item(lyx::DocIterator const&) const ()
#1  0x08551708 in lyx::frontend::TocModel::modelIndex(lyx::DocIterator const&) 
const ()
#2  0x085519fb in lyx::frontend::TocModels::currentIndex(QString const&) const
()
#3  0x086c54e7 in lyx::frontend::TocWidget::updateView() ()
#4  0x0850fcd2 in lyx::frontend::GuiView::updateDialogs() ()
#5  0x0850fe43 in lyx::frontend::GuiView::restartCursor() ()
#6  0x0823ccb9 in lyx::LyXFunc::dispatch(lyx::FuncRequest const&) ()
#7  0x08221456 in lyx::dispatch(lyx::FuncRequest const&) ()
#8  0x0855bc75 in lyx::frontend::Action::action() ()
#9  0x0855bd02 in lyx::frontend::Action::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, 
void**) ()
#10 0x00464100 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#11 0x0046435f in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, int, int, 
void**) () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#12 0x0598b171 in QAction::triggered(bool) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#13 0x0598be2f in QAction::activate(QAction::ActionEvent) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#14 0x05c89464 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#15 0x05c8bc26 in QMenu::mouseReleaseEvent(QMouseEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#16 0x059daae1 in QWidget::event(QEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#17 0x05c866fc in QMenu::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#18 0x05991810 in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#19 0x05994293 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#20 0x084ed2db in lyx::frontend::GuiApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
#21 0x059ed7c8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#22 0x059ec3df in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#23 0x05a0f275 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#24 0x00451ef1 in 
QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags) () from 
/usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#25 0x00451ffa in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags) ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#26 0x0045459d in QCoreApplication::exec() ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#27 0x05991287 in QApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#28 0x0822d5be in lyx::LyX::exec(int&, char**) ()
#29 0x081558f9 in main ()

Setting debug level to 8
Debugging `gui' (GUI handling)
GuiApplication.cpp(993): About to create new window with ID 0
GuiView.cpp(120): show banner: 1
Menus.cpp(1603): populating menu bar
Menus.cpp(1610): menu bar entries 8
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item File is a submenu named file
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Edit is a submenu named edit
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item View is a submenu named view
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Insert is a submenu named insert
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Navigate is a submenu named navigate
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Document is a submenu named document
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Tools is a submenu named tools
Menus.cpp(1629): menu bar item Help is a submenu named help
GuiView.cpp(519): Passed Geometry 933x1180+512+-153
Menus.cpp(1649): Triggered menu: file
Menus.cpp(1194): populating menu 
Menus.cpp(1199):  *  menu entries 21
Menus.cpp(1194): populating menu file_lastfiles
Menus.cpp(1199):  *  menu entries 20
Menus.cpp(1194): populating menu file_vc
Menus.cpp(1196):ERROR: empty menu file_vc

Re: Re: opening two tabs with outline on and closing one, crashes lyx.

2010-09-03 Thread Todd Denniston
Pavel Sanda wrote, On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:01:37 -0700:
> 
> if my guess is true, then 1.6.5 should work (i would happy to know this, so we
> can warn users to upgrade for newer Qt...)


yum remove lyx
yum install lyx-1.6.5-5.el5
lyx #setup outline
lyx # test {no breakage}
lyx # test {get breakage}
gdb lyx
set args -dbg 8 > lyxcrash2.txt 2>&1
run
Starting program: /usr/bin/lyx -dbg 8 > lyxcrash2.txt 2>&1
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
warning: .dynamic section for "/usr/lib/libmng.so.1" is not at the expected 
address
warning: difference appears to be caused by prelink, adjusting expectations
warning: .dynamic section for "/usr/lib/liblcms.so.1" is not at the expected 
address
warning: difference appears to be caused by prelink, adjusting expectations
warning: .dynamic section for "/usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtXml.so.4" is not at the 
expected address
warning: difference appears to be caused by prelink, adjusting expectations
[New Thread 0xb7c81b90 (LWP 24928)]
Detaching after fork from child process 24929.

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x082d5ad5 in lyx::Toc::item(lyx::DocIterator const&) const ()
(gdb) bt

[The BT is the same except the addresses changed. i.e.
#0  0x082d5ad5 #1  0x085457a8 #2  0x08545e1b ... #10 0x00c3c100 ... #29 
0x081548d9]
[lyxcrash2.txt is the same except I get newfile1 & newfile2 instead of newfile2 
& newfile3, i.e.
under a different and new account]

BTW1 I tried with `rm ~/.lyx/ -fr` `yum install lyx-1.6.3-1.el5` and got the 
same fault.
BTW2 the deltas that Rex lists between 1.6.5 and 1.6.5-5 I doubt affect this:
* Sun Feb 14 2010 Rex Dieter <rdie...@fedoraproject.org> - 1.6.5-5
- FTBFS lyx-1.6.5-4.fc13: ImplicitDSOLinking (#565009)

* Thu Jan 21 2010 Rex Dieter <rdie...@fedoraproject.org> - 1.6.5-4
- -fonts: Provides: lyx-{cmex10,cmmi10,cmr10,cmsy10}-fonts

* Sat Jan 16 2010 Rex Dieter <rdie...@fedoraproject.org> - 1.6.5-3
- rebiuld (boost)
- use simple font template

* Wed Dec 09 2009 José Matos <jama...@fc.up.pt> - 1.6.5-2
- Add patch for autoconf 2.65 (F13+)

* Wed Dec 09 2009 José Matos <jama...@fc.up.pt> - 1.6.5-1
- lyx-1.6.5



> workaround is not to use outliner when switching buffers... ;)

Workaround is to not use outliner, and switch buffers, and then close one. ;)
I just happened to hit this yesterday because I happened to want (for the first 
time :) to close
JUST one buffer instead of the whole program.  Of course I ended up getting 
whole program shutdown. :)
I can generally live with that workaround, especially as it seems to affect not 
very many folks.

Thanks again.

-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


opening two tabs with outline on and closing one, crashes lyx.

2010-09-02 Thread Todd Denniston
OS: Centos 5.5 up to date (equivalent to RHEL 5.5)
LyX: lyx 1.6.7 (lyx-1.6.7-1.el5 from the EPEL repository)
Also affected lyx 1.6.6.1 from the EPEL repository

simple method to cause crash:
1) fire up lyx
2) open a file
3) turn Outline mode on (get the check beside Document - Outline), if it is 
not already on
4) exit lyx
5) fire up lyx
6) File - New (creates newfile2 tab)
7) File - New (creates newfile3 tab)
8) select the tab for the first new file (newfile2)
9) File - Close
10) see
-Begin message
lyx: SIGSEGV signal caught
Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX. Please read the bug-reporting instructions 
in Help-Introduction
and send us a bug report, if necessary. Thanks !
Bye.
Aborted
-End message

So is this affecting current lyx 1.6.x on other distros?

bugzilla's hate me right now, not their fault though, so I am sending to the 
list. :]
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


opening two tabs with outline on and closing one, crashes lyx.

2010-09-02 Thread Todd Denniston
OS: Centos 5.5 up to date (equivalent to RHEL 5.5)
LyX: lyx 1.6.7 (lyx-1.6.7-1.el5 from the EPEL repository)
Also affected lyx 1.6.6.1 from the EPEL repository

simple method to cause crash:
1) fire up lyx
2) open a file
3) turn Outline mode on (get the check beside Document - Outline), if it is 
not already on
4) exit lyx
5) fire up lyx
6) File - New (creates newfile2 tab)
7) File - New (creates newfile3 tab)
8) select the tab for the first new file (newfile2)
9) File - Close
10) see
-Begin message
lyx: SIGSEGV signal caught
Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX. Please read the bug-reporting instructions 
in Help-Introduction
and send us a bug report, if necessary. Thanks !
Bye.
Aborted
-End message

So is this affecting current lyx 1.6.x on other distros?

bugzilla's hate me right now, not their fault though, so I am sending to the 
list. :]
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


opening two tabs with outline on and closing one, crashes lyx.

2010-09-02 Thread Todd Denniston
OS: Centos 5.5 up to date (equivalent to RHEL 5.5)
LyX: lyx 1.6.7 (lyx-1.6.7-1.el5 from the EPEL repository)
Also affected lyx 1.6.6.1 from the EPEL repository

simple method to cause crash:
1) fire up lyx
2) open a file
3) turn Outline mode on (get the check beside Document -> Outline), if it is 
not already on
4) exit lyx
5) fire up lyx
6) File -> New (creates newfile2 tab)
7) File -> New (creates newfile3 tab)
8) select the tab for the first new file (newfile2)
9) File -> Close
10) see
-Begin message
lyx: SIGSEGV signal caught
Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX. Please read the bug-reporting instructions 
in Help->Introduction
and send us a bug report, if necessary. Thanks !
Bye.
Aborted
-End message

So is this affecting current lyx 1.6.x on other distros?

bugzilla's hate me right now, not their fault though, so I am sending to the 
list. :]
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Help: Newbie writing a report- Help in drawing diagrams particularly circuits

2010-07-15 Thread Todd Denniston
BOB Merhebi wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
 Hello,
 
 I am a newbie to LyX. I searched most manuals  wikis but could find nothing
 about drawing diagrams (physics related). I am in urgent need of help as I
 am writing a reports for my physics labs which are due in less than 24 hrs.
 I particularly need to draw electrical ciruits.
 
 You help is appreciated
 thx

As others have suggested...
for low learning curve: stencil sets and pen/paper + a scanner
for quick but limited computer aided drawing including circuits: dia [can 
export to TeX with
pstricks or one of the image formats]



for computer aided schematics (2D circuit diagrams): gschem from the gEDA set 
of tools [output to an
image format]
under RHEL/CentOS after you have enabled the EPEL repository it is only a `yum 
install geda-gschem`
away. I also suggest installing geda-docs.
AFAIK it is also in fedora in these packages.
It took a couple of hours to get fairly comfortable with it for me, but I had 
not used a circuit
editor before, only DIA and a couple of CAD programs.

-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Help: Newbie writing a report- Help in drawing diagrams particularly circuits

2010-07-15 Thread Todd Denniston
BOB Merhebi wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
 Hello,
 
 I am a newbie to LyX. I searched most manuals  wikis but could find nothing
 about drawing diagrams (physics related). I am in urgent need of help as I
 am writing a reports for my physics labs which are due in less than 24 hrs.
 I particularly need to draw electrical ciruits.
 
 You help is appreciated
 thx

As others have suggested...
for low learning curve: stencil sets and pen/paper + a scanner
for quick but limited computer aided drawing including circuits: dia [can 
export to TeX with
pstricks or one of the image formats]



for computer aided schematics (2D circuit diagrams): gschem from the gEDA set 
of tools [output to an
image format]
under RHEL/CentOS after you have enabled the EPEL repository it is only a `yum 
install geda-gschem`
away. I also suggest installing geda-docs.
AFAIK it is also in fedora in these packages.
It took a couple of hours to get fairly comfortable with it for me, but I had 
not used a circuit
editor before, only DIA and a couple of CAD programs.

-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Help: Newbie writing a report- Help in drawing diagrams particularly circuits

2010-07-15 Thread Todd Denniston
BOB Merhebi wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
> Hello,
> 
> I am a newbie to LyX. I searched most manuals & wikis but could find nothing
> about drawing diagrams (physics related). I am in urgent need of help as I
> am writing a reports for my physics labs which are due in less than 24 hrs.
> I particularly need to draw electrical ciruits.
> 
> You help is appreciated
> thx

As others have suggested...
for low learning curve: stencil sets and pen/paper + a scanner
for quick but limited computer aided drawing including circuits: dia [can 
export to TeX with
pstricks or one of the image formats]



for computer aided schematics (2D circuit diagrams): gschem from the gEDA set 
of tools [output to an
image format]
under RHEL/CentOS after you have enabled the EPEL repository it is only a `yum 
install geda-gschem`
away. I also suggest installing geda-docs.
AFAIK it is also in fedora in these packages.
It took a couple of hours to get fairly comfortable with it for me, but I had 
not used a circuit
editor before, only DIA and a couple of CAD programs.

-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: lyx chokes on documents with many subsections?

2010-06-14 Thread Todd Denniston
Jose Quesada wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
 update: using branches does not help.
 Moving around in a large doc (example: userGuide) is sluggy too. Weird. This
 must be something in my config...
 I tried 1.6.4 (ubuntu) 1.6.6 (sabayon) and 2alpha 3 (ubuntu). Same problem.
 The problem is that moving the cursor (not even typing, as usersGuide is
 read-only) takes a long time, maybe .5 sec per character. Doesn't feel
 speedy... compared with a small doc, where it flies.
 Best,
 -Jose
 

FYI CentOS 5.4, LyX 1.6.5 from EPEL
With Outline closed, LyX works nice and fast, with Outline open, I feel a 
slight slowdown even on a
dual Xeon(R) CPU @ 2.83GHz, with 2GB of ram, on slower/smaller machines (dual 
Xeon(TM) CPU @ 1.50GHz
.5GB) I have to keep it closed except when needed.


For rearranging the document though, the new (since 1.4) outline mode is 
tremendously helpful.


-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: lyx chokes on documents with many subsections?

2010-06-14 Thread Todd Denniston
Jose Quesada wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
 update: using branches does not help.
 Moving around in a large doc (example: userGuide) is sluggy too. Weird. This
 must be something in my config...
 I tried 1.6.4 (ubuntu) 1.6.6 (sabayon) and 2alpha 3 (ubuntu). Same problem.
 The problem is that moving the cursor (not even typing, as usersGuide is
 read-only) takes a long time, maybe .5 sec per character. Doesn't feel
 speedy... compared with a small doc, where it flies.
 Best,
 -Jose
 

FYI CentOS 5.4, LyX 1.6.5 from EPEL
With Outline closed, LyX works nice and fast, with Outline open, I feel a 
slight slowdown even on a
dual Xeon(R) CPU @ 2.83GHz, with 2GB of ram, on slower/smaller machines (dual 
Xeon(TM) CPU @ 1.50GHz
.5GB) I have to keep it closed except when needed.


For rearranging the document though, the new (since 1.4) outline mode is 
tremendously helpful.


-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: lyx chokes on documents with many subsections?

2010-06-14 Thread Todd Denniston
Jose Quesada wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
> update: using branches does not help.
> Moving around in a large doc (example: userGuide) is sluggy too. Weird. This
> must be something in my config...
> I tried 1.6.4 (ubuntu) 1.6.6 (sabayon) and 2alpha 3 (ubuntu). Same problem.
> The problem is that moving the cursor (not even typing, as usersGuide is
> read-only) takes a long time, maybe .5 sec per character. Doesn't feel
> speedy... compared with a small doc, where it flies.
> Best,
> -Jose
> 

FYI CentOS 5.4, LyX 1.6.5 from EPEL
With Outline closed, LyX works nice and fast, with Outline open, I feel a 
slight slowdown even on a
dual Xeon(R) CPU @ 2.83GHz, with 2GB of ram, on slower/smaller machines (dual 
Xeon(TM) CPU @ 1.50GHz
.5GB) I have to keep it closed except when needed.


For rearranging the document though, the new (since 1.4) outline mode is 
tremendously helpful.


-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: in Lyx-Code quote, double quote, and back-tic not as expected.

2010-05-28 Thread Todd Denniston
Paul Rubin wrote, On Fri, 28 May 2010 15:35:16 + (UTC):
 Try the following:
 
 1. In the preamble, \usepackage{textcomp}.
 
 2. Rather than LyX-Code, Insert  Program Listing and paste the code in there.
 
 3. Right click anywhere in the listing, pick Settings..., go the Advanced tab,
 and insert columns=fullflexible and upquote=true.  The former gets rid of
 kerning and the latter gets you the backtick character.  (The vertical quote
 seems to take care of itself.)
 
 /Paul
 
 

Thanks, I'll give those a try as soon as I get back to _that_ document.

-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: in Lyx-Code quote, double quote, and back-tic not as expected.

2010-05-28 Thread Todd Denniston
Paul Rubin wrote, On Fri, 28 May 2010 15:35:16 + (UTC):
 Try the following:
 
 1. In the preamble, \usepackage{textcomp}.
 
 2. Rather than LyX-Code, Insert  Program Listing and paste the code in there.
 
 3. Right click anywhere in the listing, pick Settings..., go the Advanced tab,
 and insert columns=fullflexible and upquote=true.  The former gets rid of
 kerning and the latter gets you the backtick character.  (The vertical quote
 seems to take care of itself.)
 
 /Paul
 
 

Thanks, I'll give those a try as soon as I get back to _that_ document.

-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: in Lyx-Code quote, double quote, and back-tic not as expected.

2010-05-28 Thread Todd Denniston
Paul Rubin wrote, On Fri, 28 May 2010 15:35:16 + (UTC):
> Try the following:
> 
> 1. In the preamble, \usepackage{textcomp}.
> 
> 2. Rather than LyX-Code, Insert > Program Listing and paste the code in there.
> 
> 3. Right click anywhere in the listing, pick Settings..., go the Advanced tab,
> and insert columns=fullflexible and upquote=true.  The former gets rid of
> kerning and the latter gets you the backtick character.  (The vertical quote
> seems to take care of itself.)
> 
> /Paul
> 
> 

Thanks, I'll give those a try as soon as I get back to _that_ document.

-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


in Lyx-Code quote, double quote, and back-tic not as expected.

2010-05-27 Thread Todd Denniston
Version LyX 1.6.5 (from EPEL repository) on CentOS 5.5


Issue 1:
Am I really expecting the wrong behavior here?

Open a new LyX document (and for complete disclosure set the fonts to Palatino, 
Helvetica, Courier)
type Test and set it to type Section  ##not strictly necessary but this is 
the way I did it.
Set the type of text to LyX-Code
##paste in:
for i in `seq 1 10|awk '{print $1}'`; \
do \
  echo Counter $i; \
done

## click the view pdf button
in the PDF select the whole for loop (for to done) and paste it into a terminal.
find out that
s are ?Smart? double quotes.
's are ?Smart? quotes.
` are I have no idea.
i is i`, I assume this is due to a ligature(is that the correct word?).


As annoying as that is, I did find in the interface that I am allowed to type:
Ctrl+ to get real ASCII double quotes.
Ctrl+' to get real ASCII quotes.
no way to get a real `.
no way to get a real i.

Does anyone know how to get real back-tics (`) and i?


When I was working under Fedora Core 4 (and before) with IIRC LyX 1.4.?? I did 
not have these issues
with any text type, i.e., it did not matter where I was in any portion of the 
PDF output I could
copy and paste and get ASCII out.  It seemed to me that
Does anyone know which of the following product line upgrades would have 
changed the behavior: LyX |
LaTeX | PDFLaTeX | tetex | evince ?

I have seen OCR'ed PDFs that have ASCII text below the picture of the document, 
is there a way to
get the LyX stack to make those kind of PDFs, i.e., have a typeset version the 
gets shown  printed,
but a text version that gets copy and pasted?


Issue 2:
It is also troubling when I export to plain text and find the above ?Smart? 
transformations have
taken place in the text output.
Is there a a way to get a true export to ASCII text?


Thanks.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


newfile1.lyx
Description: application/lyx


in Lyx-Code quote, double quote, and back-tic not as expected.

2010-05-27 Thread Todd Denniston
Version LyX 1.6.5 (from EPEL repository) on CentOS 5.5


Issue 1:
Am I really expecting the wrong behavior here?

Open a new LyX document (and for complete disclosure set the fonts to Palatino, 
Helvetica, Courier)
type Test and set it to type Section  ##not strictly necessary but this is 
the way I did it.
Set the type of text to LyX-Code
##paste in:
for i in `seq 1 10|awk '{print $1}'`; \
do \
  echo Counter $i; \
done

## click the view pdf button
in the PDF select the whole for loop (for to done) and paste it into a terminal.
find out that
s are ?Smart? double quotes.
's are ?Smart? quotes.
` are I have no idea.
i is i`, I assume this is due to a ligature(is that the correct word?).


As annoying as that is, I did find in the interface that I am allowed to type:
Ctrl+ to get real ASCII double quotes.
Ctrl+' to get real ASCII quotes.
no way to get a real `.
no way to get a real i.

Does anyone know how to get real back-tics (`) and i?


When I was working under Fedora Core 4 (and before) with IIRC LyX 1.4.?? I did 
not have these issues
with any text type, i.e., it did not matter where I was in any portion of the 
PDF output I could
copy and paste and get ASCII out.  It seemed to me that
Does anyone know which of the following product line upgrades would have 
changed the behavior: LyX |
LaTeX | PDFLaTeX | tetex | evince ?

I have seen OCR'ed PDFs that have ASCII text below the picture of the document, 
is there a way to
get the LyX stack to make those kind of PDFs, i.e., have a typeset version the 
gets shown  printed,
but a text version that gets copy and pasted?


Issue 2:
It is also troubling when I export to plain text and find the above ?Smart? 
transformations have
taken place in the text output.
Is there a a way to get a true export to ASCII text?


Thanks.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


newfile1.lyx
Description: application/lyx


in Lyx-Code quote, double quote, and back-tic not as expected.

2010-05-27 Thread Todd Denniston
Version LyX 1.6.5 (from EPEL repository) on CentOS 5.5


Issue 1:
Am I really expecting the wrong behavior here?

Open a new LyX document (and for complete disclosure set the fonts to Palatino, 
Helvetica, Courier)
type "Test" and set it to type Section  ##not strictly necessary but this is 
the way I did it.
Set the type of text to LyX-Code
##paste in:
for i in `seq 1 10|awk '{print $1}'`; \
do \
  echo "Counter $i"; \
done

## click the view pdf button
in the PDF select the whole for loop (for to done) and paste it into a terminal.
find out that
"s are ?Smart? double quotes.
's are ?Smart? quotes.
` are I have no idea.
i is i`, I assume this is due to a ligature(is that the correct word?).


As annoying as that is, I did find in the interface that I am allowed to type:
Ctrl+" to get real ASCII double quotes.
Ctrl+' to get real ASCII quotes.
no way to get a real `.
no way to get a real i.

Does anyone know how to get real back-tics (`) and i?


When I was working under Fedora Core 4 (and before) with IIRC LyX 1.4.?? I did 
not have these issues
with any text type, i.e., it did not matter where I was in any portion of the 
PDF output I could
copy and paste and get ASCII out.  It seemed to me that
Does anyone know which of the following product line upgrades would have 
changed the behavior: LyX |
LaTeX | PDFLaTeX | tetex | evince ?

I have seen OCR'ed PDFs that have ASCII text below the picture of the document, 
is there a way to
get the LyX stack to make those kind of PDFs, i.e., have a typeset version the 
gets shown & printed,
but a text version that gets copy and pasted?


Issue 2:
It is also troubling when I export to "plain text" and find the above ?Smart? 
transformations have
taken place in the text output.
Is there a a way to get a true export to "ASCII text"?


Thanks.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


newfile1.lyx
Description: application/lyx


inserting child file verbatim causes SIGSEGV in epel version (1.6.4) of LyX

2010-02-03 Thread Todd Denniston
I don't see the following type of crash being fixed in the 1.6.5 [1] release 
announcement, so can
anyone replicate the crash on 1.6.5 too?

If not then I guess I'll have to figure out how to get my RH BZ account working 
again so I can bug
Rex into updating those of us on epel. :|


[1] http://www.lyx.org/announce/1_6_5.txt

### method to replicate
start lyx
File - New
Insert - File - Child Document
set Include Type to: Verbatim
click Browse...
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x07afcf23 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4


###
$ lyx --version
LyX 1.6.4 (2009-08-22)
Built on Aug 26 2009, 14:32:25
Configuration
  Host type:i386-redhat-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:   use-aspell use-ispell
  C   Compiler: gcc
  C   Compiler LyX flags:
  C   Compiler flags:-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 
-fexceptions
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic 
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables
  C++ Compiler: g++ (4.1.2)
  C++ Compiler LyX flags:
  C++ Compiler flags:-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 
-fexceptions
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic 
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables
  Linker flags:
  Linker user flags:
  Qt 4 Frontend:
  Qt 4 version: 4.2.1
  Packaging:posix
  LyX binary dir:   /usr/bin
  LyX files dir:/usr/share/lyx


### back trace
#0  0x07afcf23 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#1  0x07b022e2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#2  0x07b02707 in QFileDialog::setFilters ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#3  0x085c896e in LyXFileDialog (this=0xbf8d15e0, tit...@0xbf8d164c,
pa...@0xbf8d166c, filte...@0xbf8d1730, b...@0x988dc30, b...@0x988dc38)
at LyXFileDialog.cpp:52
#4  0x08465eb5 in lyx::FileDialog::open (this=0xbf8d1648, pa...@0xbf8d166c,
filte...@0xbf8d1730, suggest...@0xbf8d1678) at FileDialog.cpp:145
#5  0x0854f283 in lyx::frontend::browseFile (filena...@0xbf8d16cc,
tit...@0xbf8d1734, filte...@0xbf8d1730, save=false, labe...@0xbf8d1754,
di...@0xbf8d1750, labe...@0xbf8d174c, di...@0xbf8d1748,
fallback_d...@0xbf8d16d0) at GuiPrefs.cpp:118
#6  0x0854fdd4 in lyx::browseRelFile (filena...@0xbf8d1798,
refpa...@0xbf8d172c, tit...@0xbf8d1734, filte...@0xbf8d1730, save=false,
labe...@0xbf8d1754, di...@0xbf8d1750, labe...@0xbf8d174c, di...@0xbf8d1748)
at GuiPrefs.cpp:203
#7  0x0850d76d in lyx::frontend::GuiInclude::browse (this=0x996aed8,
in_na...@0xbf8d1798, in_type=lyx::frontend::GuiInclude::VERBATIM)
at GuiInclude.cpp:332
#8  0x0850db4a in lyx::frontend::GuiInclude::browse (this=0x996aed8)
at GuiInclude.cpp:287
#9  0x0850dc6a in lyx::frontend::GuiInclude::qt_metacall (this=0x996aed8,
_c=QMetaObject::InvokeMetaMethod, _id=0, _a=0xbf8d1cdc)
at GuiInclude_moc.cpp:73
#10 0x00c97100 in QMetaObject::activate () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#11 0x00c9735f in QMetaObject::activate () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#12 0x07beeae1 in QAbstractButton::clicked ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#13 0x07a11dc9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#14 0x07a13479 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#15 0x07a13692 in QAbstractButton::mouseReleaseEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#16 0x077d0ae1 in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#17 0x07a12915 in QAbstractButton::event () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#18 0x07a8ba84 in QPushButton::event () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#19 0x07787810 in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#20 0x0778a293 in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#21 0x083f3d1b in lyx::frontend::GuiApplication::notify (this=0x95a8fe0,
receiver=0x9975f18, event=0xbf8d2374) at GuiApplication.cpp:1276
#22 0x077e2dce in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#23 0x077e23df in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#24 0x07805275 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#25 0x00c84ef1 in QEventLoop::processEvents ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#26 0x00c84ffa in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#27 0x00c8759d in QCoreApplication::exec ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#28 0x07787287 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#29 0x08143cb3 in lyx::LyX::exec (this=0xbf8d2840, ar...@0xbf8d2870,
argv=0xbf8d28f4) at LyX.cpp:343
#30 0x08070039 in main (argc=1, argv=Cannot access memory at address 0x4
) at main.cpp:46



-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


inserting child file verbatim causes SIGSEGV in epel version (1.6.4) of LyX

2010-02-03 Thread Todd Denniston
I don't see the following type of crash being fixed in the 1.6.5 [1] release 
announcement, so can
anyone replicate the crash on 1.6.5 too?

If not then I guess I'll have to figure out how to get my RH BZ account working 
again so I can bug
Rex into updating those of us on epel. :|


[1] http://www.lyx.org/announce/1_6_5.txt

### method to replicate
start lyx
File - New
Insert - File - Child Document
set Include Type to: Verbatim
click Browse...
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x07afcf23 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4


###
$ lyx --version
LyX 1.6.4 (2009-08-22)
Built on Aug 26 2009, 14:32:25
Configuration
  Host type:i386-redhat-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:   use-aspell use-ispell
  C   Compiler: gcc
  C   Compiler LyX flags:
  C   Compiler flags:-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 
-fexceptions
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic 
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables
  C++ Compiler: g++ (4.1.2)
  C++ Compiler LyX flags:
  C++ Compiler flags:-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 
-fexceptions
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic 
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables
  Linker flags:
  Linker user flags:
  Qt 4 Frontend:
  Qt 4 version: 4.2.1
  Packaging:posix
  LyX binary dir:   /usr/bin
  LyX files dir:/usr/share/lyx


### back trace
#0  0x07afcf23 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#1  0x07b022e2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#2  0x07b02707 in QFileDialog::setFilters ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#3  0x085c896e in LyXFileDialog (this=0xbf8d15e0, tit...@0xbf8d164c,
pa...@0xbf8d166c, filte...@0xbf8d1730, b...@0x988dc30, b...@0x988dc38)
at LyXFileDialog.cpp:52
#4  0x08465eb5 in lyx::FileDialog::open (this=0xbf8d1648, pa...@0xbf8d166c,
filte...@0xbf8d1730, suggest...@0xbf8d1678) at FileDialog.cpp:145
#5  0x0854f283 in lyx::frontend::browseFile (filena...@0xbf8d16cc,
tit...@0xbf8d1734, filte...@0xbf8d1730, save=false, labe...@0xbf8d1754,
di...@0xbf8d1750, labe...@0xbf8d174c, di...@0xbf8d1748,
fallback_d...@0xbf8d16d0) at GuiPrefs.cpp:118
#6  0x0854fdd4 in lyx::browseRelFile (filena...@0xbf8d1798,
refpa...@0xbf8d172c, tit...@0xbf8d1734, filte...@0xbf8d1730, save=false,
labe...@0xbf8d1754, di...@0xbf8d1750, labe...@0xbf8d174c, di...@0xbf8d1748)
at GuiPrefs.cpp:203
#7  0x0850d76d in lyx::frontend::GuiInclude::browse (this=0x996aed8,
in_na...@0xbf8d1798, in_type=lyx::frontend::GuiInclude::VERBATIM)
at GuiInclude.cpp:332
#8  0x0850db4a in lyx::frontend::GuiInclude::browse (this=0x996aed8)
at GuiInclude.cpp:287
#9  0x0850dc6a in lyx::frontend::GuiInclude::qt_metacall (this=0x996aed8,
_c=QMetaObject::InvokeMetaMethod, _id=0, _a=0xbf8d1cdc)
at GuiInclude_moc.cpp:73
#10 0x00c97100 in QMetaObject::activate () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#11 0x00c9735f in QMetaObject::activate () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#12 0x07beeae1 in QAbstractButton::clicked ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#13 0x07a11dc9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#14 0x07a13479 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#15 0x07a13692 in QAbstractButton::mouseReleaseEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#16 0x077d0ae1 in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#17 0x07a12915 in QAbstractButton::event () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#18 0x07a8ba84 in QPushButton::event () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#19 0x07787810 in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#20 0x0778a293 in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#21 0x083f3d1b in lyx::frontend::GuiApplication::notify (this=0x95a8fe0,
receiver=0x9975f18, event=0xbf8d2374) at GuiApplication.cpp:1276
#22 0x077e2dce in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#23 0x077e23df in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#24 0x07805275 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#25 0x00c84ef1 in QEventLoop::processEvents ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#26 0x00c84ffa in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#27 0x00c8759d in QCoreApplication::exec ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#28 0x07787287 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#29 0x08143cb3 in lyx::LyX::exec (this=0xbf8d2840, ar...@0xbf8d2870,
argv=0xbf8d28f4) at LyX.cpp:343
#30 0x08070039 in main (argc=1, argv=Cannot access memory at address 0x4
) at main.cpp:46



-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


inserting child file verbatim causes SIGSEGV in epel version (1.6.4) of LyX

2010-02-03 Thread Todd Denniston
I don't see the following type of crash being fixed in the 1.6.5 [1] release 
announcement, so can
anyone replicate the crash on 1.6.5 too?

If not then I guess I'll have to figure out how to get my RH BZ account working 
again so I can bug
Rex into updating those of us on epel. :|


[1] http://www.lyx.org/announce/1_6_5.txt

### method to replicate
start lyx
File -> New
Insert -> File -> Child Document
set Include Type to: Verbatim
click Browse...
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x07afcf23 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4


###
$ lyx --version
LyX 1.6.4 (2009-08-22)
Built on Aug 26 2009, 14:32:25
Configuration
  Host type:i386-redhat-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:   use-aspell use-ispell
  C   Compiler: gcc
  C   Compiler LyX flags:
  C   Compiler flags:-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 
-fexceptions
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic 
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables
  C++ Compiler: g++ (4.1.2)
  C++ Compiler LyX flags:
  C++ Compiler flags:-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 
-fexceptions
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic 
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables
  Linker flags:
  Linker user flags:
  Qt 4 Frontend:
  Qt 4 version: 4.2.1
  Packaging:posix
  LyX binary dir:   /usr/bin
  LyX files dir:/usr/share/lyx


### back trace
#0  0x07afcf23 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#1  0x07b022e2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#2  0x07b02707 in QFileDialog::setFilters ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#3  0x085c896e in LyXFileDialog (this=0xbf8d15e0, tit...@0xbf8d164c,
pa...@0xbf8d166c, filte...@0xbf8d1730, b...@0x988dc30, b...@0x988dc38)
at LyXFileDialog.cpp:52
#4  0x08465eb5 in lyx::FileDialog::open (this=0xbf8d1648, pa...@0xbf8d166c,
filte...@0xbf8d1730, suggest...@0xbf8d1678) at FileDialog.cpp:145
#5  0x0854f283 in lyx::frontend::browseFile (filena...@0xbf8d16cc,
tit...@0xbf8d1734, filte...@0xbf8d1730, save=false, labe...@0xbf8d1754,
di...@0xbf8d1750, labe...@0xbf8d174c, di...@0xbf8d1748,
fallback_d...@0xbf8d16d0) at GuiPrefs.cpp:118
#6  0x0854fdd4 in lyx::browseRelFile (filena...@0xbf8d1798,
refpa...@0xbf8d172c, tit...@0xbf8d1734, filte...@0xbf8d1730, save=false,
labe...@0xbf8d1754, di...@0xbf8d1750, labe...@0xbf8d174c, di...@0xbf8d1748)
at GuiPrefs.cpp:203
#7  0x0850d76d in lyx::frontend::GuiInclude::browse (this=0x996aed8,
in_na...@0xbf8d1798, in_type=lyx::frontend::GuiInclude::VERBATIM)
at GuiInclude.cpp:332
#8  0x0850db4a in lyx::frontend::GuiInclude::browse (this=0x996aed8)
at GuiInclude.cpp:287
#9  0x0850dc6a in lyx::frontend::GuiInclude::qt_metacall (this=0x996aed8,
_c=QMetaObject::InvokeMetaMethod, _id=0, _a=0xbf8d1cdc)
at GuiInclude_moc.cpp:73
#10 0x00c97100 in QMetaObject::activate () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#11 0x00c9735f in QMetaObject::activate () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#12 0x07beeae1 in QAbstractButton::clicked ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#13 0x07a11dc9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#14 0x07a13479 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#15 0x07a13692 in QAbstractButton::mouseReleaseEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#16 0x077d0ae1 in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#17 0x07a12915 in QAbstractButton::event () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#18 0x07a8ba84 in QPushButton::event () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#19 0x07787810 in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#20 0x0778a293 in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#21 0x083f3d1b in lyx::frontend::GuiApplication::notify (this=0x95a8fe0,
receiver=0x9975f18, event=0xbf8d2374) at GuiApplication.cpp:1276
#22 0x077e2dce in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#23 0x077e23df in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#24 0x07805275 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#25 0x00c84ef1 in QEventLoop::processEvents ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#26 0x00c84ffa in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#27 0x00c8759d in QCoreApplication::exec ()
   from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#28 0x07787287 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/qt4/lib/libQtGui.so.4
#29 0x08143cb3 in lyx::LyX::exec (this=0xbf8d2840, ar...@0xbf8d2870,
argv=0xbf8d28f4) at LyX.cpp:343
#30 0x08070039 in main (argc=1, argv=Cannot access memory at address 0x4
) at main.cpp:46



-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


nice digest reply Re: the [[Lyx] explicit mail subject] thread

2009-09-14 Thread Todd Denniston

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:
 Note:	the quoted texts below are all liberally snipped... 
	for full context see the thread...

SNIP

Personally I don't think that's ever going to happen any more than I
think anybody will ever offer a list server with a smart digest option
that includes some kind of header like tag in each individual message
of the digest that can be used by a digest only subscriber to request a
personal resend of just those individual messages they wanted to reply
to. Which would provide a way for digest users to avoid messing with the
threaded message reply path.

Like I said, it ain't gonna happen... 


But wouldn't it be nice if I was wrong?


SNIP
At least on this bit I think there is a way to get the _effect_ you want, 
differently.

This happens to be a reply to the lyx-users digest...
the lyx-users digest is sent as a mime digest and with Thunderbird the user can simply double click 
on the message of interest (each message is listed as a mime attachment in the digest) which opens 
the message as a pretty much normal message and then hit reply.
For some reason I had to take an extra Re: off the subject line, and I felt that SNIPing the message 
was reasonable, but this was the extent of the editing I HAD to do.


for most mailman lists you can either select mime digests from the HTML interface or send `set 
digest mime` (with an authenticate line) to the list-request address

see section 8 of
http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Mailman+2.1+Members+Manual
for some more details.

Using this knowledge in another email client is an exorcise left to the reader and other list 
members. :)


Lyx on Linux, with out header munging. :0
Boy we have stepped off topic. :)
--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


nice digest reply Re: the [[Lyx] explicit mail subject] thread

2009-09-14 Thread Todd Denniston

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:
 Note:	the quoted texts below are all liberally snipped... 
	for full context see the thread...

SNIP

Personally I don't think that's ever going to happen any more than I
think anybody will ever offer a list server with a smart digest option
that includes some kind of header like tag in each individual message
of the digest that can be used by a digest only subscriber to request a
personal resend of just those individual messages they wanted to reply
to. Which would provide a way for digest users to avoid messing with the
threaded message reply path.

Like I said, it ain't gonna happen... 


But wouldn't it be nice if I was wrong?


SNIP
At least on this bit I think there is a way to get the _effect_ you want, 
differently.

This happens to be a reply to the lyx-users digest...
the lyx-users digest is sent as a mime digest and with Thunderbird the user can simply double click 
on the message of interest (each message is listed as a mime attachment in the digest) which opens 
the message as a pretty much normal message and then hit reply.
For some reason I had to take an extra Re: off the subject line, and I felt that SNIPing the message 
was reasonable, but this was the extent of the editing I HAD to do.


for most mailman lists you can either select mime digests from the HTML interface or send `set 
digest mime` (with an authenticate line) to the list-request address

see section 8 of
http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Mailman+2.1+Members+Manual
for some more details.

Using this knowledge in another email client is an exorcise left to the reader and other list 
members. :)


Lyx on Linux, with out header munging. :0
Boy we have stepped off topic. :)
--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


nice digest reply Re: the [[Lyx] explicit mail subject] thread

2009-09-14 Thread Todd Denniston

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:
 Note:	the quoted texts below are all liberally "snipped"... 
	for full context see the thread...



Personally I don't think that's ever going to happen any more than I
think anybody will ever offer a list server with a smart digest option
that includes some kind of "header like" tag in each individual message
of the digest that can be used by a digest only subscriber to request a
personal resend of just those individual messages they wanted to reply
to. Which would provide a way for digest users to avoid messing with the
threaded message reply path.

Like I said, it ain't gonna happen... 


But wouldn't it be nice if I was wrong?



At least on this bit I think there is a way to get the _effect_ you want, 
differently.

This happens to be a reply to the lyx-users digest...
the lyx-users digest is sent as a mime digest and with Thunderbird the user can simply double click 
on the message of interest (each message is listed as a mime attachment in the digest) which opens 
the message as a pretty much normal message and then hit reply.
For some reason I had to take an extra Re: off the subject line, and I felt that SNIPing the message 
was reasonable, but this was the extent of the editing I HAD to do.


for most mailman lists you can either select mime digests from the HTML interface or send `set 
digest mime` (with an authenticate line) to the list-request address

see section 8 of
http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Mailman+2.1+Members+Manual
for some more details.

Using this knowledge in another email client is an exorcise left to the reader and other list 
members. :)


Lyx on Linux, with out header munging. :0
Boy we have stepped off topic. :)
--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: [Lyx] explicit mail subject

2009-09-08 Thread Todd Denniston

Pavel Sanda wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

Christian Ridderström wrote:

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009, Manveru wrote:


2009/9/2 Murray Eisenberg mur...@math.umass.edu:

I agree with the O.P. on this. This is something that, surely, is easily
fixed at the server end, so that each message going out from the server 
has,

say, [LyX] prepended to the subject.

There is many voices in favour of such feature. But not a lot of
people vote against. If may I suggest, maybe someone can create a
poll/survey for LyX users list subscribers.
I think the many voices that don't like it are tired of having this 
recurring discussion  ;-)


+1



+1 [subject line munging sucks (spaces from subjects :)] And my mail client works fine for sorting 
out messages based on 'To:', 'CC:'  envelop headers (List-* and Mailing-List)



--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: [Lyx] explicit mail subject

2009-09-08 Thread Todd Denniston

Pavel Sanda wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

Christian Ridderström wrote:

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009, Manveru wrote:


2009/9/2 Murray Eisenberg mur...@math.umass.edu:

I agree with the O.P. on this. This is something that, surely, is easily
fixed at the server end, so that each message going out from the server 
has,

say, [LyX] prepended to the subject.

There is many voices in favour of such feature. But not a lot of
people vote against. If may I suggest, maybe someone can create a
poll/survey for LyX users list subscribers.
I think the many voices that don't like it are tired of having this 
recurring discussion  ;-)


+1



+1 [subject line munging sucks (spaces from subjects :)] And my mail client works fine for sorting 
out messages based on 'To:', 'CC:'  envelop headers (List-* and Mailing-List)



--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: [Lyx] explicit mail subject

2009-09-08 Thread Todd Denniston

Pavel Sanda wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

Christian Ridderström wrote:

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009, Manveru wrote:


2009/9/2 Murray Eisenberg <mur...@math.umass.edu>:

I agree with the O.P. on this. This is something that, surely, is easily
fixed at the server end, so that each message going out from the server 
has,

say, "[LyX]" prepended to the subject.

There is many voices in favour of such feature. But not a lot of
people vote against. If may I suggest, maybe someone can create a
poll/survey for LyX users list subscribers.
I think the many voices that don't like it are tired of having this 
recurring discussion  ;-)


+1



+1 [subject line munging sucks (spaces from subjects :)] And my mail client works fine for sorting 
out messages based on 'To:', 'CC:' & envelop headers (List-* and Mailing-List)



--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


need help using a meta font.

2009-07-23 Thread Todd Denniston
I found the kind of font I would like to use in d7seg [1], but I can't seem to 
 get the capbas set of files installed in a way that I can get lyx (or for 
all I know even TeX) to use it.


I got the zip from ctan[2]
I made ~/texmf/fonts/tfm/
unziped capbas to make ~/texmf/fonts/tfm/capbas/ [2.5]
ran texhash, which gave little output [3]
run (lyx) Tools - Reconfigure
shutdown lyx
lyx testfont.lyx
try (lyx) View - DVI
and get LaTeX Error: File `d7seg.sty' not found

OK, I agree the file does not exist... how do I get it?
I hope at worst it is some metafont incantation that must be done, because I 
obviously know nothing of how to create a style let alone one for a font.

and  don't even see one with
 find /usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/ -name *.sty
to copy and mess up.

or is it as simple as, fonts can ONLY be in /usr/share/texmf/fonts/ and not in 
~/texmf/fonts/ 


[1] http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/dseg/
	Yes it's ugly, for normal reading, but that is what the operator will see on 
the 7 segment display that is in front of him/her. :)

[2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/capbas/
[2.5]  also cp ~/texmf/fonts/tfm/capbas/* ~/texmf/fonts/
and ran texhash

[3] texhash
texhash: Updating /home/myhomedir/texmf/ls-R...
texhash: /usr/share/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping...
texhash: /usr/share/texmf-config: directory not writable. Skipping...
texhash: /usr/share/texmf-var: directory not writable. Skipping...
texhash: /var/lib/texmf/ls-R: no write permission. Skipping...
texhash: Done.


Note, I'll also take hints on how to actually use the font on just some 
selected text in an otherwise palatino document, after we can get LyX/LaTeX to 
recognize the new font.


Thanks.
--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


testfont.lyx
Description: application/lyx


need help using a meta font.

2009-07-23 Thread Todd Denniston
I found the kind of font I would like to use in d7seg [1], but I can't seem to 
 get the capbas set of files installed in a way that I can get lyx (or for 
all I know even TeX) to use it.


I got the zip from ctan[2]
I made ~/texmf/fonts/tfm/
unziped capbas to make ~/texmf/fonts/tfm/capbas/ [2.5]
ran texhash, which gave little output [3]
run (lyx) Tools - Reconfigure
shutdown lyx
lyx testfont.lyx
try (lyx) View - DVI
and get LaTeX Error: File `d7seg.sty' not found

OK, I agree the file does not exist... how do I get it?
I hope at worst it is some metafont incantation that must be done, because I 
obviously know nothing of how to create a style let alone one for a font.

and  don't even see one with
 find /usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/ -name *.sty
to copy and mess up.

or is it as simple as, fonts can ONLY be in /usr/share/texmf/fonts/ and not in 
~/texmf/fonts/ 


[1] http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/dseg/
	Yes it's ugly, for normal reading, but that is what the operator will see on 
the 7 segment display that is in front of him/her. :)

[2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/capbas/
[2.5]  also cp ~/texmf/fonts/tfm/capbas/* ~/texmf/fonts/
and ran texhash

[3] texhash
texhash: Updating /home/myhomedir/texmf/ls-R...
texhash: /usr/share/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping...
texhash: /usr/share/texmf-config: directory not writable. Skipping...
texhash: /usr/share/texmf-var: directory not writable. Skipping...
texhash: /var/lib/texmf/ls-R: no write permission. Skipping...
texhash: Done.


Note, I'll also take hints on how to actually use the font on just some 
selected text in an otherwise palatino document, after we can get LyX/LaTeX to 
recognize the new font.


Thanks.
--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


testfont.lyx
Description: application/lyx


need help using a meta font.

2009-07-23 Thread Todd Denniston
I found the kind of font I would like to use in d7seg [1], but I can't seem to 
 get the capbas set of files installed in a way that I can get lyx (or for 
all I know even TeX) to use it.


I got the zip from ctan[2]
I made ~/texmf/fonts/tfm/
unziped capbas to make ~/texmf/fonts/tfm/capbas/ [2.5]
ran texhash, which gave little output [3]
run (lyx) Tools -> Reconfigure
shutdown lyx
lyx testfont.lyx
try (lyx) View -> DVI
and get "LaTeX Error: File `d7seg.sty' not found"

OK, I agree the file does not exist... how do I get it?
I hope at worst it is some metafont incantation that must be done, because I 
obviously know nothing of how to create a style let alone one for a font.

and  don't even see one with
 find /usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/ -name "*.sty"
to copy and mess up.

or is it as simple as, fonts can ONLY be in /usr/share/texmf/fonts/ and not in 
~/texmf/fonts/ 


[1] http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/dseg/
	Yes it's ugly, for normal reading, but that is what the operator will see on 
the 7 segment display that is in front of him/her. :)

[2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/capbas/
[2.5]  also cp ~/texmf/fonts/tfm/capbas/* ~/texmf/fonts/
and ran texhash

[3] texhash
texhash: Updating /home/myhomedir/texmf/ls-R...
texhash: /usr/share/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping...
texhash: /usr/share/texmf-config: directory not writable. Skipping...
texhash: /usr/share/texmf-var: directory not writable. Skipping...
texhash: /var/lib/texmf/ls-R: no write permission. Skipping...
texhash: Done.


Note, I'll also take hints on how to actually use the font on just some 
selected text in an otherwise palatino document, after we can get LyX/LaTeX to 
recognize the new font.


Thanks.
--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


testfont.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: Crash on opening directories

2009-07-22 Thread Todd Denniston

Stasinski A. wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

Hi,

I've built LyX 1.6.3 under Red Hat Enterprise 5.3, with Qt 4.5 (a slightly 
older version than the most recent one, which I couldn't get to work). Each 
time I try to open a directory to open or save a document, LyX crashes with the 
following message:

(unknown:7300): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkEntry - did not receive focus-out-event. 
If you
connect a handler to this signal, it must return
FALSE so the entry gets the event as well

Gtk-ERROR **: file gtkentry.c: line 5287 (blink_cb): assertion failed: 
(GTK_WIDGET_HAS_FOCUS (entry))
aborting...
Aborted

Does anyone know what the problem is here?

Best regards,
Alex




perhaps you could use some help from the epel directories, see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472514
and
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#howtouse

as  Rex Dieter has been compiling lyx-1.6.3 for EL5, it just has not been 
passed out of testing yet.


(which reminds me, now that it is in the updates-testing directory, I can get 
it downloaded and test it a bit myself now. :)


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Crash on opening directories

2009-07-22 Thread Todd Denniston

Todd Denniston wrote, On 07/22/2009 08:41 PM:

Stasinski A. wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

Hi,

I've built LyX 1.6.3 under Red Hat Enterprise 5.3, with Qt 4.5 (a 
slightly older version than the most recent one, which I couldn't get 
to work). Each time I try to open a directory to open or save a 
document, LyX crashes with the following message:


(unknown:7300): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkEntry - did not receive 
focus-out-event. If you

connect a handler to this signal, it must return
FALSE so the entry gets the event as well

Gtk-ERROR **: file gtkentry.c: line 5287 (blink_cb): assertion failed: 
(GTK_WIDGET_HAS_FOCUS (entry))

aborting...
Aborted

Does anyone know what the problem is here?

Best regards,
Alex




perhaps you could use some help from the epel directories, see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472514
and
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#howtouse

as  Rex Dieter has been compiling lyx-1.6.3 for EL5, it just has not 
been passed out of testing yet.


(which reminds me, now that it is in the updates-testing directory, I 
can get it downloaded and test it a bit myself now. :)




Well so far the only big problem I have ran into is that the version control 
interface is not checking a copy back out for edit, and it no longer (as it 
did in 1.4.x) gives you the option to tell it to.


the only small problems are
that at least over an ssh -X link having the 'View Source'  or the 'Outline' 
open, typing response is really slow, it is fine with them closed however.


Oh, and I don't seem to be able to un-split the view... OK, apparently 'Close 
  Tab Group' is the opposite of 'Split View...' :)


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Crash on opening directories

2009-07-22 Thread Todd Denniston

Stasinski A. wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

Hi,

I've built LyX 1.6.3 under Red Hat Enterprise 5.3, with Qt 4.5 (a slightly 
older version than the most recent one, which I couldn't get to work). Each 
time I try to open a directory to open or save a document, LyX crashes with the 
following message:

(unknown:7300): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkEntry - did not receive focus-out-event. 
If you
connect a handler to this signal, it must return
FALSE so the entry gets the event as well

Gtk-ERROR **: file gtkentry.c: line 5287 (blink_cb): assertion failed: 
(GTK_WIDGET_HAS_FOCUS (entry))
aborting...
Aborted

Does anyone know what the problem is here?

Best regards,
Alex




perhaps you could use some help from the epel directories, see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472514
and
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#howtouse

as  Rex Dieter has been compiling lyx-1.6.3 for EL5, it just has not been 
passed out of testing yet.


(which reminds me, now that it is in the updates-testing directory, I can get 
it downloaded and test it a bit myself now. :)


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Crash on opening directories

2009-07-22 Thread Todd Denniston

Todd Denniston wrote, On 07/22/2009 08:41 PM:

Stasinski A. wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

Hi,

I've built LyX 1.6.3 under Red Hat Enterprise 5.3, with Qt 4.5 (a 
slightly older version than the most recent one, which I couldn't get 
to work). Each time I try to open a directory to open or save a 
document, LyX crashes with the following message:


(unknown:7300): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkEntry - did not receive 
focus-out-event. If you

connect a handler to this signal, it must return
FALSE so the entry gets the event as well

Gtk-ERROR **: file gtkentry.c: line 5287 (blink_cb): assertion failed: 
(GTK_WIDGET_HAS_FOCUS (entry))

aborting...
Aborted

Does anyone know what the problem is here?

Best regards,
Alex




perhaps you could use some help from the epel directories, see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472514
and
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#howtouse

as  Rex Dieter has been compiling lyx-1.6.3 for EL5, it just has not 
been passed out of testing yet.


(which reminds me, now that it is in the updates-testing directory, I 
can get it downloaded and test it a bit myself now. :)




Well so far the only big problem I have ran into is that the version control 
interface is not checking a copy back out for edit, and it no longer (as it 
did in 1.4.x) gives you the option to tell it to.


the only small problems are
that at least over an ssh -X link having the 'View Source'  or the 'Outline' 
open, typing response is really slow, it is fine with them closed however.


Oh, and I don't seem to be able to un-split the view... OK, apparently 'Close 
  Tab Group' is the opposite of 'Split View...' :)


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Crash on opening directories

2009-07-22 Thread Todd Denniston

Stasinski A. wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

Hi,

I've built LyX 1.6.3 under Red Hat Enterprise 5.3, with Qt 4.5 (a slightly 
older version than the most recent one, which I couldn't get to work). Each 
time I try to open a directory to open or save a document, LyX crashes with the 
following message:

(:7300): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkEntry - did not receive focus-out-event. 
If you
connect a handler to this signal, it must return
FALSE so the entry gets the event as well

Gtk-ERROR **: file gtkentry.c: line 5287 (blink_cb): assertion failed: 
(GTK_WIDGET_HAS_FOCUS (entry))
aborting...
Aborted

Does anyone know what the problem is here?

Best regards,
Alex




perhaps you could use some help from the epel directories, see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472514
and
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#howtouse

as  Rex Dieter has been compiling lyx-1.6.3 for EL5, it just has not been 
passed out of testing yet.


(which reminds me, now that it is in the updates-testing directory, I can get 
it downloaded and test it a bit myself now. :)


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Crash on opening directories

2009-07-22 Thread Todd Denniston

Todd Denniston wrote, On 07/22/2009 08:41 PM:

Stasinski A. wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

Hi,

I've built LyX 1.6.3 under Red Hat Enterprise 5.3, with Qt 4.5 (a 
slightly older version than the most recent one, which I couldn't get 
to work). Each time I try to open a directory to open or save a 
document, LyX crashes with the following message:


(:7300): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkEntry - did not receive 
focus-out-event. If you

connect a handler to this signal, it must return
FALSE so the entry gets the event as well

Gtk-ERROR **: file gtkentry.c: line 5287 (blink_cb): assertion failed: 
(GTK_WIDGET_HAS_FOCUS (entry))

aborting...
Aborted

Does anyone know what the problem is here?

Best regards,
Alex




perhaps you could use some help from the epel directories, see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472514
and
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#howtouse

as  Rex Dieter has been compiling lyx-1.6.3 for EL5, it just has not 
been passed out of testing yet.


(which reminds me, now that it is in the updates-testing directory, I 
can get it downloaded and test it a bit myself now. :)




Well so far the only big problem I have ran into is that the version control 
interface is not checking a copy back out for edit, and it no longer (as it 
did in 1.4.x) gives you the option to tell it to.


the only small problems are
that at least over an ssh -X link having the 'View Source'  or the 'Outline' 
open, typing response is really slow, it is fine with them closed however.


Oh, and I don't seem to be able to un-split the view... OK, apparently 'Close 
  Tab Group' is the opposite of 'Split View...' :)


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Dropping a document out of version control

2009-03-24 Thread Todd Denniston

Shahar Or wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

Dear list,

How is it possible to stop using version control on a document, please?


Simple answer:
stop clicking File - Version Control - Check In Changes...

Complex answer:
remove the version control file, i.e.:
rm RCS/mylyxfile.lyx,v
cp mylyxfile.lyx mylyxfile.lyx.bak; \
 cvs remove -f mylyxfile.lyx
cp mylyxfile.lyx mylyxfile.lyx.bak; \
 svn remove -f mylyxfile.lyx
cp mylyxfile.lyx.bak mylyxfile.lyx

Or were you trying to ask about Change tracking?
A different concept which I have not yet used, so you'll need a different 
person to answer. :)

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Dropping a document out of version control

2009-03-24 Thread Todd Denniston

Shahar Or wrote, On 03/24/2009 01:36 PM:

On ×’', 2009-03-24 at 09:21 -0400, Todd Denniston wrote:

Complex answer:
remove the version control file, i.e.:
rm RCS/mylyxfile.lyx,v


I don't have an RCS directory where my file is. Should I?


Making the assumption that you really do mean version control instead of 
change tracking.
the 'standard' way to use RCS is to have a RCS/ directory in the directory 
where you are working and the ,v files are there.  If you did not create the 
RCS directory then the ci  co commands will work directly in the directory 
where you are at, i.e. if you issue ls you will see:

mylyxfile.lyx
mylyxfile.lyx,v





cp mylyxfile.lyx mylyxfile.lyx.bak; \
  cvs remove -f mylyxfile.lyx
cp mylyxfile.lyx mylyxfile.lyx.bak; \
  svn remove -f mylyxfile.lyx
cp mylyxfile.lyx.bak mylyxfile.lyx


cvs? svn? What? It uses RCS, no?


LyX can use any of them.

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Dropping a document out of version control

2009-03-24 Thread Todd Denniston

Shahar Or wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

Dear list,

How is it possible to stop using version control on a document, please?


Simple answer:
stop clicking File - Version Control - Check In Changes...

Complex answer:
remove the version control file, i.e.:
rm RCS/mylyxfile.lyx,v
cp mylyxfile.lyx mylyxfile.lyx.bak; \
 cvs remove -f mylyxfile.lyx
cp mylyxfile.lyx mylyxfile.lyx.bak; \
 svn remove -f mylyxfile.lyx
cp mylyxfile.lyx.bak mylyxfile.lyx

Or were you trying to ask about Change tracking?
A different concept which I have not yet used, so you'll need a different 
person to answer. :)

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Dropping a document out of version control

2009-03-24 Thread Todd Denniston

Shahar Or wrote, On 03/24/2009 01:36 PM:

On ×’', 2009-03-24 at 09:21 -0400, Todd Denniston wrote:

Complex answer:
remove the version control file, i.e.:
rm RCS/mylyxfile.lyx,v


I don't have an RCS directory where my file is. Should I?


Making the assumption that you really do mean version control instead of 
change tracking.
the 'standard' way to use RCS is to have a RCS/ directory in the directory 
where you are working and the ,v files are there.  If you did not create the 
RCS directory then the ci  co commands will work directly in the directory 
where you are at, i.e. if you issue ls you will see:

mylyxfile.lyx
mylyxfile.lyx,v





cp mylyxfile.lyx mylyxfile.lyx.bak; \
  cvs remove -f mylyxfile.lyx
cp mylyxfile.lyx mylyxfile.lyx.bak; \
  svn remove -f mylyxfile.lyx
cp mylyxfile.lyx.bak mylyxfile.lyx


cvs? svn? What? It uses RCS, no?


LyX can use any of them.

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Dropping a document out of version control

2009-03-24 Thread Todd Denniston

Shahar Or wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

Dear list,

How is it possible to stop using version control on a document, please?


Simple answer:
stop clicking File -> Version Control -> Check In Changes...

Complex answer:
remove the version control file, i.e.:
rm RCS/mylyxfile.lyx,v
cp mylyxfile.lyx mylyxfile.lyx.bak; \
 cvs remove -f mylyxfile.lyx
cp mylyxfile.lyx mylyxfile.lyx.bak; \
 svn remove -f mylyxfile.lyx
cp mylyxfile.lyx.bak mylyxfile.lyx

Or were you trying to ask about Change tracking?
A different concept which I have not yet used, so you'll need a different 
person to answer. :)

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Dropping a document out of version control

2009-03-24 Thread Todd Denniston

Shahar Or wrote, On 03/24/2009 01:36 PM:

On ×’', 2009-03-24 at 09:21 -0400, Todd Denniston wrote:

Complex answer:
remove the version control file, i.e.:
rm RCS/mylyxfile.lyx,v


I don't have an RCS directory where my file is. Should I?


Making the assumption that you really do mean version control instead of 
change tracking.
the 'standard' way to use RCS is to have a RCS/ directory in the directory 
where you are working and the ,v files are there.  If you did not create the 
RCS directory then the ci & co commands will work directly in the directory 
where you are at, i.e. if you issue ls you will see:

mylyxfile.lyx
mylyxfile.lyx,v





cp mylyxfile.lyx mylyxfile.lyx.bak; \
  cvs remove -f mylyxfile.lyx
cp mylyxfile.lyx mylyxfile.lyx.bak; \
  svn remove -f mylyxfile.lyx
cp mylyxfile.lyx.bak mylyxfile.lyx


cvs? svn? What? It uses RCS, no?


LyX can use any of them.

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Todd Denniston

rgheck wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:
div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedJürgen 
Spitzmüller wrote:

Minipages? Sure: Insert-Box (a frameless Box is a minipage).

However, as Richard said, LaTeX isn't designed for grid layout. It's 
not a DTP application.


  
Box isn't very descriptive. I'd never have guessed this. Would there by 
objections to making it Minipage? or Text Box? or ???


rh

/div


I Agree with this, and as Minipage is a LaTeXism and that is what you are 
doing with this, then using the same name would make it easier for lyx users 
to locate help about them in LaTeX documentation.




BTW this is my first reply to an email from inside a digest... it looks ok 
from here, i.e., title ok and only the content I wanted to reply to, but 
please cut me some slack if Thunderbird quietly makes a mess. :}

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Todd Denniston

rgheck wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:
div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedJürgen 
Spitzmüller wrote:

Minipages? Sure: Insert-Box (a frameless Box is a minipage).

However, as Richard said, LaTeX isn't designed for grid layout. It's 
not a DTP application.


  
Box isn't very descriptive. I'd never have guessed this. Would there by 
objections to making it Minipage? or Text Box? or ???


rh

/div


I Agree with this, and as Minipage is a LaTeXism and that is what you are 
doing with this, then using the same name would make it easier for lyx users 
to locate help about them in LaTeX documentation.




BTW this is my first reply to an email from inside a digest... it looks ok 
from here, i.e., title ok and only the content I wanted to reply to, but 
please cut me some slack if Thunderbird quietly makes a mess. :}

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Todd Denniston

rgheck wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:
Jürgen 
Spitzmüller wrote:

Minipages? Sure: Insert->Box (a frameless Box is a minipage).

However, as Richard said, LaTeX isn't designed for grid layout. It's 
not a DTP application.


  
Box isn't very descriptive. I'd never have guessed this. Would there by 
objections to making it Minipage? or Text Box? or ???


rh




I Agree with this, and as Minipage is a LaTeXism and that is what you are 
doing with this, then using the same name would make it easier for lyx users 
to locate help about them in LaTeX documentation.




BTW this is my first reply to an email from inside a digest... it looks ok 
from here, i.e., title ok and only the content I wanted to reply to, but 
please cut me some slack if Thunderbird quietly makes a mess. :}

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: WRB - On the dimensions of graphic files.

2008-03-20 Thread Todd Denniston

William R. Buckley wrote, On 03/20/2008 02:54 PM:

Paul (and the rest of the group):



William R. Buckley wrote:

SNIP
What I notice, even in the imported .tex file for my paper, 
and when using LyX, (BTW, is it as in Lick?)

There's been extensive (and IMHO inconclusive) discussion
of this, but licks seems to be the predominant choice 
(particularly since leaks 
is not a happy name for a computer program).


I would argue for lick, to be consistent with TeX and LaTeX.
Of course, when I first encountered the product, licks came
immediately to mind.



Rummages around the wiki, Yep thought we had an answer to that one:
http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Pronunciation

SORT OF!!! :)

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: WRB - On the dimensions of graphic files.

2008-03-20 Thread Todd Denniston

William R. Buckley wrote, On 03/20/2008 02:54 PM:

Paul (and the rest of the group):



William R. Buckley wrote:

SNIP
What I notice, even in the imported .tex file for my paper, 
and when using LyX, (BTW, is it as in Lick?)

There's been extensive (and IMHO inconclusive) discussion
of this, but licks seems to be the predominant choice 
(particularly since leaks 
is not a happy name for a computer program).


I would argue for lick, to be consistent with TeX and LaTeX.
Of course, when I first encountered the product, licks came
immediately to mind.



Rummages around the wiki, Yep thought we had an answer to that one:
http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Pronunciation

SORT OF!!! :)

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: WRB - On the dimensions of graphic files.

2008-03-20 Thread Todd Denniston

William R. Buckley wrote, On 03/20/2008 02:54 PM:

Paul (and the rest of the group):



William R. Buckley wrote:


What I notice, even in the imported .tex file for my paper, 
and when using LyX, (BTW, is it as in Lick?)

There's been extensive (and IMHO inconclusive) discussion
of this, but "licks" seems to be the predominant choice 
(particularly since "leaks" 
is not a happy name for a computer program).


I would argue for lick, to be consistent with TeX and LaTeX.
Of course, when I first encountered the product, licks came
immediately to mind.



Rummages around the wiki, Yep thought we had an answer to that one:
http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Pronunciation

SORT OF!!! :)

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Lyx en español

2007-12-12 Thread Todd Denniston

Jorge Mario wrote, On 12/12/2007 10:32 AM:

Hola compañeros


Comapñeros de habal hispana. podemos preguntar en español?

atte Ken


from http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en
we get
Automatically translated text:
Comapñeros of habal Hispanic. We ask in Spanish?




 From an email thread a few months ago[1], I would suspect you can, but it 
might be better to ask in both Spanish, and _attempt_ to put an english 
translation in the email too, in case those who can answer your question don't 
read Spanish.


[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg58916.html

passed through:
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=en|es
Texto traducido de forma automática:
Desde un subproceso de correo electrónico hace unos meses [1], yo sospecho que 
puede, pero tal vez sería mejor preguntar en español, y el intento de poner 
Inglés traducción en el mensaje de correo electrónico también, en caso de los 
que pueden hacer responder a su pregunta No saben leer español.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Lyx en español

2007-12-12 Thread Todd Denniston

Jorge Mario wrote, On 12/12/2007 10:32 AM:

Hola compañeros


Comapñeros de habal hispana. podemos preguntar en español?

atte Ken


from http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en
we get
Automatically translated text:
Comapñeros of habal Hispanic. We ask in Spanish?




 From an email thread a few months ago[1], I would suspect you can, but it 
might be better to ask in both Spanish, and _attempt_ to put an english 
translation in the email too, in case those who can answer your question don't 
read Spanish.


[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg58916.html

passed through:
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=en|es
Texto traducido de forma automática:
Desde un subproceso de correo electrónico hace unos meses [1], yo sospecho que 
puede, pero tal vez sería mejor preguntar en español, y el intento de poner 
Inglés traducción en el mensaje de correo electrónico también, en caso de los 
que pueden hacer responder a su pregunta No saben leer español.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Lyx en español

2007-12-12 Thread Todd Denniston

Jorge Mario wrote, On 12/12/2007 10:32 AM:

Hola compañeros


Comapñeros de habal hispana. podemos preguntar en español?

atte Ken


from http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en
we get
Automatically translated text:
Comapñeros of habal Hispanic. We ask in Spanish?




 From an email thread a few months ago[1], I would suspect you can, but it 
might be better to ask in both Spanish, and _attempt_ to put an english 
translation in the email too, in case those who can answer your question don't 
read Spanish.


[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg58916.html

passed through:
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=en|es
Texto traducido de forma automática:
Desde un subproceso de correo electrónico hace unos meses [1], yo sospecho que 
puede, pero tal vez sería mejor preguntar en español, y el intento de poner 
Inglés traducción en el mensaje de correo electrónico también, en caso de los 
que pueden hacer responder a su pregunta No saben leer español.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Feature Request: Show the title in closed floats

2007-12-03 Thread Todd Denniston

G. Milde wrote, On 12/03/2007 10:21 AM:

On  3.12.07, Daniel Lohmann wrote:

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Daniel Lohmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

...

2) the document-specific state of each inset would no longer be stored
in the document file (fancydoc.lyx),  but in some extra settings file
(such as fancydoc.lyxrc).
(It is kind of annoying to get version control conflicts just because
of the fact the me and my colleagues prefer different ways to display
the insets on screen.)

...
Maybe I have not explained myself well enough. I am mainly asking for 
separation of concerns between the document content and the 
editor-ui-related data associated with it, which is IMHO a good design 
principle anyway.

...

otherwise the frequency of svn conflicts would go up significantly, which
is the (practical) reason for the request for separating content from
ui-data on the file system.


While I understand the reason and the rationale to separate content and
presentation, I would not like to see a separate file for every lyx file:
this would clutter my view on the file-system a lot.

OTOH, there is the design principle to keep together information that
belongs together: and type and status of a Note can be considered
information that belongs together -- it would become a more complicated
to specify which inset the collapsed status belongs to when stored in a
different file.

Maybe there is a way to tell SVN to ignore these settings? 


Or how about an option that to me would make more sense:
A collapse|expand ALL button/setting/menu,  that on collapse-able elements had 
a similar effect to the View-Threads-Expand All Threads|Collapse All 
Threads does on threads in Thunderbird.


I understand the issue with the version control, which is why when I am 
preparing to check in my changes I always walk through the document and 
collapse all the ERTFootNotesNotes...
If we had a big collapse|expand button it would be easier to explain as a 
coding convention that `prior to committing changes the changer will 
collapse|expand all collapse-able elements in the document.`



I don't know if it would make since to have multiple collapse|expand buttons 
somewhere [one for each collapse-able type] or just one big toggle button.



(I remember faintly that SVN diffing ignores some specially formatted
tokens, so maybe a file format that stores these settings specially marked
up would help. Another option would be to use an external diff command and
customize it to ignore the line behind \begin_inset Note...)

Guenter




--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Feature Request: Show the title in closed floats

2007-12-03 Thread Todd Denniston

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote, On 12/03/2007 11:03 AM:

Todd Denniston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Or how about an option that to me would make more sense:
A collapse|expand ALL button/setting/menu,  that on collapse-able
elements had a similar effect to the View-Threads-Expand All
Threads|Collapse All Threads does on threads in Thunderbird.


Don't we have this in View menu already?

JMarc



1.5 yes
1.4 no

Sorry, I was going from my experience with 1.4 and the context of the email, 
which was indicating that Daniel was getting version control conflicts due to 
changes in [un]collapsed state.  I just installed a box with 1.5 so I will 
find this feature helpful.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Feature Request: Show the title in closed floats

2007-12-03 Thread Todd Denniston

G. Milde wrote, On 12/03/2007 10:21 AM:

On  3.12.07, Daniel Lohmann wrote:

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Daniel Lohmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

...

2) the document-specific state of each inset would no longer be stored
in the document file (fancydoc.lyx),  but in some extra settings file
(such as fancydoc.lyxrc).
(It is kind of annoying to get version control conflicts just because
of the fact the me and my colleagues prefer different ways to display
the insets on screen.)

...
Maybe I have not explained myself well enough. I am mainly asking for 
separation of concerns between the document content and the 
editor-ui-related data associated with it, which is IMHO a good design 
principle anyway.

...

otherwise the frequency of svn conflicts would go up significantly, which
is the (practical) reason for the request for separating content from
ui-data on the file system.


While I understand the reason and the rationale to separate content and
presentation, I would not like to see a separate file for every lyx file:
this would clutter my view on the file-system a lot.

OTOH, there is the design principle to keep together information that
belongs together: and type and status of a Note can be considered
information that belongs together -- it would become a more complicated
to specify which inset the collapsed status belongs to when stored in a
different file.

Maybe there is a way to tell SVN to ignore these settings? 


Or how about an option that to me would make more sense:
A collapse|expand ALL button/setting/menu,  that on collapse-able elements had 
a similar effect to the View-Threads-Expand All Threads|Collapse All 
Threads does on threads in Thunderbird.


I understand the issue with the version control, which is why when I am 
preparing to check in my changes I always walk through the document and 
collapse all the ERTFootNotesNotes...
If we had a big collapse|expand button it would be easier to explain as a 
coding convention that `prior to committing changes the changer will 
collapse|expand all collapse-able elements in the document.`



I don't know if it would make since to have multiple collapse|expand buttons 
somewhere [one for each collapse-able type] or just one big toggle button.



(I remember faintly that SVN diffing ignores some specially formatted
tokens, so maybe a file format that stores these settings specially marked
up would help. Another option would be to use an external diff command and
customize it to ignore the line behind \begin_inset Note...)

Guenter




--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Feature Request: Show the title in closed floats

2007-12-03 Thread Todd Denniston

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote, On 12/03/2007 11:03 AM:

Todd Denniston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Or how about an option that to me would make more sense:
A collapse|expand ALL button/setting/menu,  that on collapse-able
elements had a similar effect to the View-Threads-Expand All
Threads|Collapse All Threads does on threads in Thunderbird.


Don't we have this in View menu already?

JMarc



1.5 yes
1.4 no

Sorry, I was going from my experience with 1.4 and the context of the email, 
which was indicating that Daniel was getting version control conflicts due to 
changes in [un]collapsed state.  I just installed a box with 1.5 so I will 
find this feature helpful.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Feature Request: Show the title in closed floats

2007-12-03 Thread Todd Denniston

G. Milde wrote, On 12/03/2007 10:21 AM:

On  3.12.07, Daniel Lohmann wrote:

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Daniel Lohmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

...

2) the document-specific state of each inset would no longer be stored
in the document file (fancydoc.lyx),  but in some extra settings file
(such as fancydoc.lyxrc).
(It is kind of annoying to get version control conflicts just because
of the fact the me and my colleagues prefer different ways to display
the insets on screen.)

...
Maybe I have not explained myself well enough. I am mainly asking for 
separation of concerns between the document content and the 
editor-ui-related data associated with it, which is IMHO a good design 
principle anyway.

...

otherwise the frequency of svn conflicts would go up significantly, which
is the (practical) reason for the request for separating content from
ui-data on the file system.


While I understand the reason and the rationale to separate content and
presentation, I would not like to see a separate file for every lyx file:
this would clutter my view on the file-system a lot.

OTOH, there is the design principle to keep together information that
belongs together: and type and status of a Note can be considered
information that belongs together -- it would become a more complicated
to specify which inset the "collapsed" status belongs to when stored in a
different file.

Maybe there is a way to tell SVN to ignore these settings? 


Or how about an option that to me would make more sense:
A collapse|expand ALL button/setting/menu,  that on collapse-able elements had 
a similar effect to the View->Threads->"Expand All Threads"|"Collapse All 
Threads" does on threads in Thunderbird.


I understand the issue with the version control, which is why when I am 
preparing to check in my changes I always walk through the document and 
collapse all the ERT&&
If we had a big collapse|expand button it would be easier to explain as a 
"coding convention" that `prior to committing changes the changer will 
collapse|expand all collapse-able elements in the document.`



I don't know if it would make since to have multiple collapse|expand buttons 
somewhere [one for each collapse-able type] or just one big toggle button.



(I remember faintly that SVN diffing ignores some specially formatted
tokens, so maybe a file format that stores these settings specially marked
up would help. Another option would be to use an external diff command and
customize it to ignore the line behind \begin_inset Note...)

Guenter




--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Feature Request: Show the title in closed floats

2007-12-03 Thread Todd Denniston

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote, On 12/03/2007 11:03 AM:

Todd Denniston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Or how about an option that to me would make more sense:
A collapse|expand ALL button/setting/menu,  that on collapse-able
elements had a similar effect to the View->Threads->"Expand All
Threads"|"Collapse All Threads" does on threads in Thunderbird.


Don't we have this in View menu already?

JMarc



1.5 yes
1.4 no

Sorry, I was going from my experience with 1.4 and the context of the email, 
which was indicating that Daniel was getting version control conflicts due to 
changes in [un]collapsed state.  I just installed a box with 1.5 so I will 
find this feature helpful.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Fwd: Warning: message 1IgmlM-0001BU-US delayed 24 hours

2007-10-15 Thread Todd Denniston

Steve Litt wrote, On 10/14/2007 05:52 PM:
Could whomever administers this list fix this problem? I continously time out 
at WIERDLMPC.MSCI.MEMPHIS.EDU if I use Earthlink's SMTP. Even though I can 
use other SMTPs, I can't remember every single time to use another SMTP for 
LyX list posts.




I of course can do nothing to make the lyx.org or earthlink.net servers act 
better, but out of curiosity I found some interesting info:


This is not the first time that the IPs around the machine you mention[1] 
below have had problems[2].


And could it be that earthlink either has changed you to these servers 
recently, or changed the configuration to tighten up the time they allow for 
other machines to respond? i.e., it might not be lyx.org's fault.


Of course you might check some of the blocking lists[3] to see if any of the 
servers in your email chain have a bad reputation right now.


And there is the fact that RIGHT NOW (Mon Oct 15 23:13:46 UTC 2007) 
lists.lyx.org is listed as being in Dynamic IP Address ranges by 
sorbs[4][5], so it could be that earthlink.net is being a bit aggressive in 
interpreting a sorbs listing.  So does earthlink use sorbs, or other lists? 
Granted I would expect the checking (and blocking) to be happening at the 
receiver not the sender.



[1] elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net = 209.86.89.62
elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net = 209.86.89.61

[2] http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg12324.html
search for earthlink on: http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/invalidemails.htm

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL#External_links

[4] Mon Oct 15 23:13:46 UTC 2007
Name:   lists.lyx.org
Address: 141.225.11.87
Name:   141.225.11.87.dnsbl.sorbs.net
Address: 127.0.0.10

[5] http://www.de.sorbs.net/using.shtml


Thanks

SteveT

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Warning: message 1IgmlM-0001BU-US delayed 24 hours
Date: Sunday 14 October 2007 15:55
From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its
recipients after more than 24 hours on the queue on
 elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net.

The message identifier is: 1IgmlM-0001BU-US
The subject of the message is: Re: Using \fbox as an environment?
The date of the message is:Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:36:37 -0400

The address to which the message has not yet been delivered is:

  lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Delay reason: Connection timed out:
SMTP timeout while connected to WIERDLMPC.MSCI.MEMPHIS.EDU
 [141.225.11.87] after initial connection

No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for
some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message
remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up,
and when that happens, the message will be returned to you.




--
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Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter



Re: Fwd: Warning: message 1IgmlM-0001BU-US delayed 24 hours

2007-10-15 Thread Todd Denniston

Steve Litt wrote, On 10/14/2007 05:52 PM:
Could whomever administers this list fix this problem? I continously time out 
at WIERDLMPC.MSCI.MEMPHIS.EDU if I use Earthlink's SMTP. Even though I can 
use other SMTPs, I can't remember every single time to use another SMTP for 
LyX list posts.




I of course can do nothing to make the lyx.org or earthlink.net servers act 
better, but out of curiosity I found some interesting info:


This is not the first time that the IPs around the machine you mention[1] 
below have had problems[2].


And could it be that earthlink either has changed you to these servers 
recently, or changed the configuration to tighten up the time they allow for 
other machines to respond? i.e., it might not be lyx.org's fault.


Of course you might check some of the blocking lists[3] to see if any of the 
servers in your email chain have a bad reputation right now.


And there is the fact that RIGHT NOW (Mon Oct 15 23:13:46 UTC 2007) 
lists.lyx.org is listed as being in Dynamic IP Address ranges by 
sorbs[4][5], so it could be that earthlink.net is being a bit aggressive in 
interpreting a sorbs listing.  So does earthlink use sorbs, or other lists? 
Granted I would expect the checking (and blocking) to be happening at the 
receiver not the sender.



[1] elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net = 209.86.89.62
elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net = 209.86.89.61

[2] http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg12324.html
search for earthlink on: http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/invalidemails.htm

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL#External_links

[4] Mon Oct 15 23:13:46 UTC 2007
Name:   lists.lyx.org
Address: 141.225.11.87
Name:   141.225.11.87.dnsbl.sorbs.net
Address: 127.0.0.10

[5] http://www.de.sorbs.net/using.shtml


Thanks

SteveT

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Warning: message 1IgmlM-0001BU-US delayed 24 hours
Date: Sunday 14 October 2007 15:55
From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its
recipients after more than 24 hours on the queue on
 elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net.

The message identifier is: 1IgmlM-0001BU-US
The subject of the message is: Re: Using \fbox as an environment?
The date of the message is:Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:36:37 -0400

The address to which the message has not yet been delivered is:

  lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Delay reason: Connection timed out:
SMTP timeout while connected to WIERDLMPC.MSCI.MEMPHIS.EDU
 [141.225.11.87] after initial connection

No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for
some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message
remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up,
and when that happens, the message will be returned to you.




--
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Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter



Re: Fwd: Warning: message 1IgmlM-0001BU-US delayed 24 hours

2007-10-15 Thread Todd Denniston

Steve Litt wrote, On 10/14/2007 05:52 PM:
Could whomever administers this list fix this problem? I continously time out 
at WIERDLMPC.MSCI.MEMPHIS.EDU if I use Earthlink's SMTP. Even though I can 
use other SMTPs, I can't remember every single time to use another SMTP for 
LyX list posts.




I of course can do nothing to make the lyx.org or earthlink.net servers act 
better, but out of curiosity I found some interesting info:


This is not the first time that the IPs around the machine you mention[1] 
below have had problems[2].


And could it be that earthlink either has changed you to these servers 
recently, or changed the configuration to tighten up the time they allow for 
other machines to respond? i.e., it might not be lyx.org's fault.


Of course you might check some of the blocking lists[3] to see if any of the 
servers in your email chain have a bad reputation right now.


And there is the fact that RIGHT NOW (Mon Oct 15 23:13:46 UTC 2007) 
lists.lyx.org is listed as being in "Dynamic IP Address ranges" by 
sorbs[4][5], so it could be that earthlink.net is being a bit aggressive in 
interpreting a sorbs listing.  So does earthlink use sorbs, or other lists? 
Granted I would expect the checking (and blocking) to be happening at the 
receiver not the sender.



[1] elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net = 209.86.89.62
elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net = 209.86.89.61

[2] http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg12324.html
search for earthlink on: http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/invalidemails.htm

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL#External_links

[4] Mon Oct 15 23:13:46 UTC 2007
Name:   lists.lyx.org
Address: 141.225.11.87
Name:   141.225.11.87.dnsbl.sorbs.net
Address: 127.0.0.10

[5] http://www.de.sorbs.net/using.shtml


Thanks

SteveT

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Re: [OT] Programmatically Creating a LaTeX Document

2007-10-10 Thread Todd Denniston

Rich Shepard wrote, On 10/10/2007 09:21 AM:

  This is not LyX specific, but I'm hoping that some of you can provide
direction to help me find the solution I need.

  In brief: we're developing an approximate reasoning model (a type of
expert system) in Python and C, with data maintained in an embedded SQLite
database. I'd like to produce reports via LaTeX and pdflatex. To do so, I
need to write report-specific LaTeX templates that have replaceable
variables where the content goes. Then, the applicaion would
programmatically extract the required information from a database table and
fill in the template for the report.

  I cannot find how to create such a LaTeX template in Guide to LaTeX or
TLC2. LaTeX document classes are templates themselves, but are used to
manually fill in the document content. Can this content be provided
programmatically?

  Suggestions appreciated.

TIA,

Rich



I have done such a beast, therefore it can be done. :)
The method I used involved having a LaTeX file[1], which at an appropriate 
place[2] in the file, uses \input{MyVariableData.tex} and then when I want the 
data from a variable I just use \MyFirstVar at the appropriate place in the 
template file.


I had to be careful in my C program to properly escape LaTeX special chars 
before it wrote the data to MyVariableData.tex, i.e., at least _, * and 
\ become \_, {*} and \textbackslash{}.

There are probably others you need to look out for like %  @.

in MyVariableData.tex there are lines of the form:
\def\MyFirstVar{{*}Data{*} for Var\_1}




then with a script passing all the appropriate options to LaTeX, dvips (I 
needed PostScript output) and an rm of LaTeX temporary data, I have the 
program create the postscript for sending to the printer.



Hope this helps.


[1] a full LaTeX document which uses a lot stuff from \usepackage{ifthen} 
\usepackage{soul} \usepackage{pstricks} \usepackage{pst-text} 
\usepackage{pst-eps} \usepackage[dvips]{graphicx} \usepackage[dvips]{geometry}
I love the funky stuff you can do with LaTeX... like making CD labels with 
curved words on top of pictures.  I started from:

http://www.aldil.org/projets/TeX_cd_label.html

[2] appropriate from the perspective that you may need some packages defined 
before the variable file is pulled in, and you need to pull in the variable 
file before you try to use one of it's variables in the main LaTeX file.



--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
http://www.crane.navy.mil/custfeedback


Re: [OT] Programmatically Creating a LaTeX Document

2007-10-10 Thread Todd Denniston

Rich Shepard wrote, On 10/10/2007 12:09 PM:

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


I would write the template as an ordinary document (and of course would
write it in LyX, then export to .tex), using some distinctive 
placeholders

where the good stuff would be inserted (e.g., %%variable 1%% or some
such).  Then have a script create a copy of the .tex file (so as not to
corrupt the master template) and use sed to substitute the good stuff for
the placeholders.  Depending on what the good stuff looks like, you might
have to escape a character here or there.


Paul,

  I think this is fundamentally the same approach Todd used.



Almost, except I was using [La]TeX variables so that you do not have to modify 
the template file, just the variable defining file.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter



Re: [OT] Programmatically Creating a LaTeX Document

2007-10-10 Thread Todd Denniston

Rich Shepard wrote, On 10/10/2007 09:21 AM:

  This is not LyX specific, but I'm hoping that some of you can provide
direction to help me find the solution I need.

  In brief: we're developing an approximate reasoning model (a type of
expert system) in Python and C, with data maintained in an embedded SQLite
database. I'd like to produce reports via LaTeX and pdflatex. To do so, I
need to write report-specific LaTeX templates that have replaceable
variables where the content goes. Then, the applicaion would
programmatically extract the required information from a database table and
fill in the template for the report.

  I cannot find how to create such a LaTeX template in Guide to LaTeX or
TLC2. LaTeX document classes are templates themselves, but are used to
manually fill in the document content. Can this content be provided
programmatically?

  Suggestions appreciated.

TIA,

Rich



I have done such a beast, therefore it can be done. :)
The method I used involved having a LaTeX file[1], which at an appropriate 
place[2] in the file, uses \input{MyVariableData.tex} and then when I want the 
data from a variable I just use \MyFirstVar at the appropriate place in the 
template file.


I had to be careful in my C program to properly escape LaTeX special chars 
before it wrote the data to MyVariableData.tex, i.e., at least _, * and 
\ become \_, {*} and \textbackslash{}.

There are probably others you need to look out for like %  @.

in MyVariableData.tex there are lines of the form:
\def\MyFirstVar{{*}Data{*} for Var\_1}




then with a script passing all the appropriate options to LaTeX, dvips (I 
needed PostScript output) and an rm of LaTeX temporary data, I have the 
program create the postscript for sending to the printer.



Hope this helps.


[1] a full LaTeX document which uses a lot stuff from \usepackage{ifthen} 
\usepackage{soul} \usepackage{pstricks} \usepackage{pst-text} 
\usepackage{pst-eps} \usepackage[dvips]{graphicx} \usepackage[dvips]{geometry}
I love the funky stuff you can do with LaTeX... like making CD labels with 
curved words on top of pictures.  I started from:

http://www.aldil.org/projets/TeX_cd_label.html

[2] appropriate from the perspective that you may need some packages defined 
before the variable file is pulled in, and you need to pull in the variable 
file before you try to use one of it's variables in the main LaTeX file.



--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
http://www.crane.navy.mil/custfeedback


Re: [OT] Programmatically Creating a LaTeX Document

2007-10-10 Thread Todd Denniston

Rich Shepard wrote, On 10/10/2007 12:09 PM:

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


I would write the template as an ordinary document (and of course would
write it in LyX, then export to .tex), using some distinctive 
placeholders

where the good stuff would be inserted (e.g., %%variable 1%% or some
such).  Then have a script create a copy of the .tex file (so as not to
corrupt the master template) and use sed to substitute the good stuff for
the placeholders.  Depending on what the good stuff looks like, you might
have to escape a character here or there.


Paul,

  I think this is fundamentally the same approach Todd used.



Almost, except I was using [La]TeX variables so that you do not have to modify 
the template file, just the variable defining file.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter



Re: [OT] Programmatically Creating a LaTeX Document

2007-10-10 Thread Todd Denniston

Rich Shepard wrote, On 10/10/2007 09:21 AM:

  This is not LyX specific, but I'm hoping that some of you can provide
direction to help me find the solution I need.

  In brief: we're developing an approximate reasoning model (a type of
expert system) in Python and C, with data maintained in an embedded SQLite
database. I'd like to produce reports via LaTeX and pdflatex. To do so, I
need to write report-specific LaTeX templates that have replaceable
variables where the content goes. Then, the applicaion would
programmatically extract the required information from a database table and
fill in the template for the report.

  I cannot find how to create such a LaTeX template in "Guide to LaTeX" or
TLC2. LaTeX document classes are templates themselves, but are used to
manually fill in the document content. Can this content be provided
programmatically?

  Suggestions appreciated.

TIA,

Rich



I have done such a beast, therefore it can be done. :)
The method I used involved having a LaTeX file[1], which at an appropriate 
place[2] in the file, uses \input{MyVariableData.tex} and then when I want the 
data from a variable I just use \MyFirstVar at the appropriate place in the 
"template" file.


I had to be careful in my C program to properly escape LaTeX special chars 
before it wrote the data to MyVariableData.tex, i.e., at least "_", "*" and 
"\" become "\_", "{*}" and "\textbackslash{}".

There are probably others you need to look out for like "%" & "@".

in MyVariableData.tex there are lines of the form:
\def\MyFirstVar{{*}Data{*} for Var\_1}




then with a script passing all the appropriate options to LaTeX, dvips (I 
needed PostScript output) and an rm of LaTeX temporary data, I have the 
program create the postscript for sending to the printer.



Hope this helps.


[1] a full LaTeX document which uses a lot stuff from \usepackage{ifthen} 
\usepackage{soul} \usepackage{pstricks} \usepackage{pst-text} 
\usepackage{pst-eps} \usepackage[dvips]{graphicx} \usepackage[dvips]{geometry}
I love the funky stuff you can do with LaTeX... like making CD labels with 
curved words on top of pictures.  I started from:

http://www.aldil.org/projets/TeX_cd_label.html

[2] appropriate from the perspective that you may need some packages defined 
before the variable file is pulled in, and you need to pull in the variable 
file before you try to use one of it's variables in the main LaTeX file.



--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
http://www.crane.navy.mil/custfeedback


Re: [OT] Programmatically Creating a LaTeX Document

2007-10-10 Thread Todd Denniston

Rich Shepard wrote, On 10/10/2007 12:09 PM:

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


I would write the template as an ordinary document (and of course would
write it in LyX, then export to .tex), using some distinctive 
placeholders

where the good stuff would be inserted (e.g., %%variable 1%% or some
such).  Then have a script create a copy of the .tex file (so as not to
corrupt the master template) and use sed to substitute the good stuff for
the placeholders.  Depending on what the good stuff looks like, you might
have to escape a character here or there.


Paul,

  I think this is fundamentally the same approach Todd used.



Almost, except I was using [La]TeX variables so that you do not have to modify 
the template file, just the variable defining file.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter



Re: HTML and URLs in LYX

2007-08-10 Thread Todd Denniston

Yaron Y. Goland wrote, On 08/10/2007 10:51 AM:



SNIP
P.S. Does anyone know a decent margin setting for letter size paper so 
when I produce a PDF my article doesn't have insanely large margins?




insanity is all in the mind. ... :)

the question then becomes, what do you, your boss and inner voices, consider a 
non insane margin size?

I (and my inner voices :) tend to use 1 inch on all[1] borders for article 
class.



[1] Top, Bottom, Inner and Outer. I never had reason to mess with Head sep, 
Head height or Foot skip.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: HTML and URLs in LYX

2007-08-10 Thread Todd Denniston

Yaron Y. Goland wrote, On 08/10/2007 10:51 AM:



SNIP
P.S. Does anyone know a decent margin setting for letter size paper so 
when I produce a PDF my article doesn't have insanely large margins?




insanity is all in the mind. ... :)

the question then becomes, what do you, your boss and inner voices, consider a 
non insane margin size?

I (and my inner voices :) tend to use 1 inch on all[1] borders for article 
class.



[1] Top, Bottom, Inner and Outer. I never had reason to mess with Head sep, 
Head height or Foot skip.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: HTML and URLs in LYX

2007-08-10 Thread Todd Denniston

Yaron Y. Goland wrote, On 08/10/2007 10:51 AM:




P.S. Does anyone know a decent margin setting for letter size paper so 
when I produce a PDF my article doesn't have insanely large margins?




insanity is all in the mind. ... :)

the question then becomes, what do you, your boss and inner voices, consider a 
non insane margin size?

I (and my inner voices :) tend to use 1 inch on all[1] borders for article 
class.



[1] Top, Bottom, Inner and Outer. I never had reason to mess with Head sep, 
Head height or Foot skip.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: LyX, pdflatex and local hyperlinks

2007-07-23 Thread Todd Denniston

Nick Hopton wrote:

Subject:
Re: LyX, pdflatex and local hyperlinks
From:
Nick and Anne Hopton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:
Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:16:15 +0100
To:
Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:
Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Nick and Anne Hopton schrieb:

is that the drive letter (F:) is hard wired into the link. However, 
what I want to do is put the PDF file containing the link and the 
HTML file at which the link points onto a CD, but it doesn't seem 
possible to use relative paths in PDF links.


Besides what Todd explained you can also simply put the html file in 
the same folder where the PDF is located. The \href call ise then simply


\href{index.html}{name}


I tried that Uwe, but it didn't work. However, I *think* I might have 
found a vile work-around by editing the URL in the PDF using a binary 
file editor, as follows:


./Subtype/Link/A/Type/Action/S/URI/URI(./front_page.htm). 
endobj.20 0 obj ./D [18


Where the target is 'front_page.htm'. I have to test the CDs on a couple 
of other machines before I can be sure.


Thanks to all,
Nick.



what did the line in the PDF look like before you edited it?

putting
./front_page.htm
in a LyX URL box should have generated the pdf line you have above.

Output from the attached lyx file:
The ERT generates:
in LaTeX
\href{./test/index.html}{ERT}
in PDF
/Subtype/Link/A/Type/Action/S/URI/URI(file:./test/index.html)

the LyX box generates
in LaTeX
\url{./test/index.html}
in PDF
/Subtype/Link/A/Type/Action/S/URI/URI(./test/index.html)

at least on my Linux box.

So I think you should be able to get where you want to go by using LyX's 
internal URL insert.


gripe
It is annoying that I have to use xpdf to test this as evince does not follow 
links in pdf docs.

/gripe

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


test2.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: LyX, pdflatex and local hyperlinks

2007-07-23 Thread Todd Denniston

Nick Hopton wrote:

Subject:
Re: LyX, pdflatex and local hyperlinks
From:
Nick and Anne Hopton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:
Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:16:15 +0100
To:
Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:
Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Nick and Anne Hopton schrieb:

is that the drive letter (F:) is hard wired into the link. However, 
what I want to do is put the PDF file containing the link and the 
HTML file at which the link points onto a CD, but it doesn't seem 
possible to use relative paths in PDF links.


Besides what Todd explained you can also simply put the html file in 
the same folder where the PDF is located. The \href call ise then simply


\href{index.html}{name}


I tried that Uwe, but it didn't work. However, I *think* I might have 
found a vile work-around by editing the URL in the PDF using a binary 
file editor, as follows:


./Subtype/Link/A/Type/Action/S/URI/URI(./front_page.htm). 
endobj.20 0 obj ./D [18


Where the target is 'front_page.htm'. I have to test the CDs on a couple 
of other machines before I can be sure.


Thanks to all,
Nick.



what did the line in the PDF look like before you edited it?

putting
./front_page.htm
in a LyX URL box should have generated the pdf line you have above.

Output from the attached lyx file:
The ERT generates:
in LaTeX
\href{./test/index.html}{ERT}
in PDF
/Subtype/Link/A/Type/Action/S/URI/URI(file:./test/index.html)

the LyX box generates
in LaTeX
\url{./test/index.html}
in PDF
/Subtype/Link/A/Type/Action/S/URI/URI(./test/index.html)

at least on my Linux box.

So I think you should be able to get where you want to go by using LyX's 
internal URL insert.


gripe
It is annoying that I have to use xpdf to test this as evince does not follow 
links in pdf docs.

/gripe

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


test2.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: LyX, pdflatex and local hyperlinks

2007-07-23 Thread Todd Denniston

Nick Hopton wrote:

Subject:
Re: LyX, pdflatex and local hyperlinks
From:
Nick and Anne Hopton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:16:15 +0100
To:
Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To:
Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Nick and Anne Hopton schrieb:

is that the drive letter (F:) is hard wired into the link. However, 
what I want to do is put the PDF file containing the link and the 
HTML file at which the link points onto a CD, but it doesn't seem 
possible to use relative paths in PDF links.


Besides what Todd explained you can also simply put the html file in 
the same folder where the PDF is located. The \href call ise then simply


\href{index.html}{name}


I tried that Uwe, but it didn't work. However, I *think* I might have 
found a vile work-around by editing the URL in the PDF using a binary 
file editor, as follows:


./Subtype/Link/A<>.>> 
endobj.20 0 obj <<./D [18


Where the target is 'front_page.htm'. I have to test the CDs on a couple 
of other machines before I can be sure.


Thanks to all,
Nick.



what did the line in the PDF look like before you edited it?

putting
./front_page.htm
in a LyX URL box should have generated the pdf line you have above.

Output from the attached lyx file:
The ERT generates:
in LaTeX
\href{./test/index.html}{ERT}
in PDF
/Subtype/Link/A<>

the LyX box generates
in LaTeX
\url{./test/index.html}
in PDF
/Subtype/Link/A<>

at least on my Linux box.

So I think you should be able to get where you want to go by using LyX's 
internal URL insert.



It is annoying that I have to use xpdf to test this as evince does not follow 
links in pdf docs.



--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


test2.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: LyX, pdflatex and local hyperlinks

2007-07-20 Thread Todd Denniston

Nick and Anne Hopton wrote:

Uwe Stöhr wrote:


You can alternatively simply use:

\href{F:/Directory1/Directory2/index.html}{name}

This opens the file with the default program that is set in the 
registry as default viewer for html-files.


Thanks again for this Uwe, now when I click on the link in the PDF, 
Explorer fires up and loads index.html. All very good, but the trouble 
is that the drive letter (F:) is hard wired into the link. However, what 
I want to do is put the PDF file containing the link and the HTML file 
at which the link points onto a CD, but it doesn't seem possible to use 
relative paths in PDF links. On the CD the link in the PDF will always 
point at drive F: which isn't where the HTML file will be (unless by 
some happy chance all of the people to whom I distribute the CD have 
drive F: as their CD-ROM drives).


I know this isn't strictly a LyX problem, but any hints on a possible 
solution would be appreciated. I'm very reluctant to abandon the idea of 
using a LyX-generated PDF as a 'front page' for my project (it's 
genealogy, for the family).


Regards,
Nick.



assuming your LyX produced PDF is in Directory1 have you tried something like:
\href{./Directory2/index.html}{name}
otherwise known as a relative link?

works for me in a minimal test on Linux, using either the info above in ERT or 
putting the URL in using LyX's insert-URL.



--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Using article layout but having 'Bibliography' rather than reference

2007-07-20 Thread Todd Denniston

Richard McIntosh wrote:

Hi all
I would like the article (koma) style but want the word Bibliography rather
than references. I have tried manually editing the layout files to get the
article style but haven't managed to add the word Bibliography rather than
references.



I use article but the following may work for you to, or point to what you do 
need to do:

in ERT just before the bib location I put
\renewcommand{\refname}{} % remove the word 'References' from bibliography
for me I just type the name REFERENCED DOCUMENTS. as the section name.


perhaps
\renewcommand{\refname}{Bibliography}
would do it for you? It worked for me in a quick test.

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: LyX, pdflatex and local hyperlinks

2007-07-20 Thread Todd Denniston

Nick and Anne Hopton wrote:

Uwe Stöhr wrote:


You can alternatively simply use:

\href{F:/Directory1/Directory2/index.html}{name}

This opens the file with the default program that is set in the 
registry as default viewer for html-files.


Thanks again for this Uwe, now when I click on the link in the PDF, 
Explorer fires up and loads index.html. All very good, but the trouble 
is that the drive letter (F:) is hard wired into the link. However, what 
I want to do is put the PDF file containing the link and the HTML file 
at which the link points onto a CD, but it doesn't seem possible to use 
relative paths in PDF links. On the CD the link in the PDF will always 
point at drive F: which isn't where the HTML file will be (unless by 
some happy chance all of the people to whom I distribute the CD have 
drive F: as their CD-ROM drives).


I know this isn't strictly a LyX problem, but any hints on a possible 
solution would be appreciated. I'm very reluctant to abandon the idea of 
using a LyX-generated PDF as a 'front page' for my project (it's 
genealogy, for the family).


Regards,
Nick.



assuming your LyX produced PDF is in Directory1 have you tried something like:
\href{./Directory2/index.html}{name}
otherwise known as a relative link?

works for me in a minimal test on Linux, using either the info above in ERT or 
putting the URL in using LyX's insert-URL.



--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Using article layout but having 'Bibliography' rather than reference

2007-07-20 Thread Todd Denniston

Richard McIntosh wrote:

Hi all
I would like the article (koma) style but want the word Bibliography rather
than references. I have tried manually editing the layout files to get the
article style but haven't managed to add the word Bibliography rather than
references.



I use article but the following may work for you to, or point to what you do 
need to do:

in ERT just before the bib location I put
\renewcommand{\refname}{} % remove the word 'References' from bibliography
for me I just type the name REFERENCED DOCUMENTS. as the section name.


perhaps
\renewcommand{\refname}{Bibliography}
would do it for you? It worked for me in a quick test.

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: LyX, pdflatex and local hyperlinks

2007-07-20 Thread Todd Denniston

Nick and Anne Hopton wrote:

Uwe Stöhr wrote:


You can alternatively simply use:

\href{F:/Directory1/Directory2/index.html}{name}

This opens the file with the default program that is set in the 
registry as default viewer for html-files.


Thanks again for this Uwe, now when I click on the link in the PDF, 
Explorer fires up and loads index.html. All very good, but the trouble 
is that the drive letter (F:) is hard wired into the link. However, what 
I want to do is put the PDF file containing the link and the HTML file 
at which the link points onto a CD, but it doesn't seem possible to use 
relative paths in PDF links. On the CD the link in the PDF will always 
point at drive F: which isn't where the HTML file will be (unless by 
some happy chance all of the people to whom I distribute the CD have 
drive F: as their CD-ROM drives).


I know this isn't strictly a LyX problem, but any hints on a possible 
solution would be appreciated. I'm very reluctant to abandon the idea of 
using a LyX-generated PDF as a 'front page' for my project (it's 
genealogy, for the family).


Regards,
Nick.



assuming your LyX produced PDF is in Directory1 have you tried something like:
\href{./Directory2/index.html}{name}
otherwise known as a relative link?

works for me in a minimal test on Linux, using either the info above in ERT or 
putting the URL in using LyX's insert->URL.



--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Using article layout but having 'Bibliography' rather than reference

2007-07-20 Thread Todd Denniston

Richard McIntosh wrote:

Hi all
I would like the article (koma) style but want the word Bibliography rather
than references. I have tried manually editing the layout files to get the
article style but haven't managed to add the word Bibliography rather than
references.



I use article but the following may work for you to, or point to what you do 
need to do:

in ERT just before the bib location I put
\renewcommand{\refname}{} % remove the word 'References' from bibliography
for me I just type the name "REFERENCED DOCUMENTS." as the section name.


perhaps
\renewcommand{\refname}{Bibliography}
would do it for you? It worked for me in a quick test.

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Removing first page number on bibtex generated bibliography

2007-07-17 Thread Todd Denniston

Lyx Physicst wrote:

On 7/17/07, Charles de Miramon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Lyx Physicst wrote:

 Hi all, I am writing my thesis in Lyx 1.44(OS X).  I need to have all
the
 page numbering for the first pages of a new section(ie Table of 
Figures,
 first page in chapter, etc) removed.  I have managed to remove them 
all,
 except the first page of my bibliography.  I am using a bibtex 
generated

 bibliography and I have no idea how to remove the page numbering.  I am
 writing the paper in Report class.  Is there anyway to remove the page
 numbering and have it start re-counting again on the 2nd page of the
bib?
 Thanks,
 charles

I guess inserting in ERT \thispagestyle{empty} just after the 
bibliography

inset should work. A cleaner but more complex solution would be to
redefine
the bibliography environment.




Hi, I tried to do that originally, but it doesnt seem to work.  That just
makes the last page of the bib. un-numbered, but not the first as I need..



I am also seeing what you are, can't get the bib pages to be un-numbered, with 
out redefining stuff in the bib def.


however is the requirement that the pages be un-counted as far as the document 
length is concerned, or that they have no page count numbers at all?


if it is only that they not be counted for the overall length, you might do a 
work around something like:

ERT \pagenumbering{roman} %before bib
ERT \setcounter{page}{1} %before bib

ERT \pagenumbering{arabic} %after bib
ERT \setcounter{page}{1} %after bib

or after reading:
http://www.emerson.emory.edu/services/latex/latex_129.html
you could probably use something like:
ERT \pagestyle{empty} %before bib
ERT \pagestyle{plain} %after bib

Assuming plain is the style you have been using, the URL does not indicate if 
fancy is allowed.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: when final release 1.5.0?

2007-07-17 Thread Todd Denniston

Robert Poser wrote:

Hi,

does anyone know about when the final release 1.5.0 is scheduled?

Robert



Does this help?
http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ReleaseSchedule
http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ShowStoppers150

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2753
NEW
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3043
RESOLVED WONTFIX
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3291
NEW
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3346
RESOLVED FIXED
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3404
NEW
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3449
RESOLVED FIXED


So apparently, when A) someone gets 2753, 3291  3404 RESOLVED, and B) someone 
updates http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ShowStoppers150 to indicate no show stoppers 
are left?


You want to just do B? :P :)

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Removing first page number on bibtex generated bibliography

2007-07-17 Thread Todd Denniston

Lyx Physicst wrote:

On 7/17/07, Charles de Miramon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Lyx Physicst wrote:

 Hi all, I am writing my thesis in Lyx 1.44(OS X).  I need to have all
the
 page numbering for the first pages of a new section(ie Table of 
Figures,
 first page in chapter, etc) removed.  I have managed to remove them 
all,
 except the first page of my bibliography.  I am using a bibtex 
generated

 bibliography and I have no idea how to remove the page numbering.  I am
 writing the paper in Report class.  Is there anyway to remove the page
 numbering and have it start re-counting again on the 2nd page of the
bib?
 Thanks,
 charles

I guess inserting in ERT \thispagestyle{empty} just after the 
bibliography

inset should work. A cleaner but more complex solution would be to
redefine
the bibliography environment.




Hi, I tried to do that originally, but it doesnt seem to work.  That just
makes the last page of the bib. un-numbered, but not the first as I need..



I am also seeing what you are, can't get the bib pages to be un-numbered, with 
out redefining stuff in the bib def.


however is the requirement that the pages be un-counted as far as the document 
length is concerned, or that they have no page count numbers at all?


if it is only that they not be counted for the overall length, you might do a 
work around something like:

ERT \pagenumbering{roman} %before bib
ERT \setcounter{page}{1} %before bib

ERT \pagenumbering{arabic} %after bib
ERT \setcounter{page}{1} %after bib

or after reading:
http://www.emerson.emory.edu/services/latex/latex_129.html
you could probably use something like:
ERT \pagestyle{empty} %before bib
ERT \pagestyle{plain} %after bib

Assuming plain is the style you have been using, the URL does not indicate if 
fancy is allowed.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: when final release 1.5.0?

2007-07-17 Thread Todd Denniston

Robert Poser wrote:

Hi,

does anyone know about when the final release 1.5.0 is scheduled?

Robert



Does this help?
http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ReleaseSchedule
http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ShowStoppers150

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2753
NEW
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3043
RESOLVED WONTFIX
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3291
NEW
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3346
RESOLVED FIXED
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3404
NEW
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3449
RESOLVED FIXED


So apparently, when A) someone gets 2753, 3291  3404 RESOLVED, and B) someone 
updates http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ShowStoppers150 to indicate no show stoppers 
are left?


You want to just do B? :P :)

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Removing first page number on bibtex generated bibliography

2007-07-17 Thread Todd Denniston

Lyx Physicst wrote:

On 7/17/07, Charles de Miramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Lyx Physicst wrote:

> Hi all, I am writing my thesis in Lyx 1.44(OS X).  I need to have all
the
> page numbering for the first pages of a new section(ie Table of 
Figures,
> first page in chapter, etc) removed.  I have managed to remove them 
all,
> except the first page of my bibliography.  I am using a bibtex 
generated

> bibliography and I have no idea how to remove the page numbering.  I am
> writing the paper in Report class.  Is there anyway to remove the page
> numbering and have it start re-counting again on the 2nd page of the
bib?
> Thanks,
> charles

I guess inserting in ERT \thispagestyle{empty} just after the 
bibliography

inset should work. A cleaner but more complex solution would be to
redefine
the bibliography environment.




Hi, I tried to do that originally, but it doesnt seem to work.  That just
makes the last page of the bib. un-numbered, but not the first as I need..



I am also seeing what you are, can't get the bib pages to be un-numbered, with 
out redefining stuff in the bib def.


however is the requirement that the pages be un-counted as far as the document 
length is concerned, or that they have no page count numbers at all?


if it is only that they not be counted for the overall length, you might do a 
work around something like:

ERT \pagenumbering{roman} %before bib
ERT \setcounter{page}{1} %before bib

ERT \pagenumbering{arabic} %after bib
ERT \setcounter{page}{1} %after bib

or after reading:
http://www.emerson.emory.edu/services/latex/latex_129.html
you could probably use something like:
ERT \pagestyle{empty} %before bib
ERT \pagestyle{plain} %after bib

Assuming plain is the style you have been using, the URL does not indicate if 
"fancy" is allowed.


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: when final release 1.5.0?

2007-07-17 Thread Todd Denniston

Robert Poser wrote:

Hi,

does anyone know about when the final release 1.5.0 is scheduled?

Robert



Does this help?
http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ReleaseSchedule
http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ShowStoppers150

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2753
NEW
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3043
RESOLVED WONTFIX
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3291
NEW
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3346
RESOLVED FIXED
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3404
NEW
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3449
RESOLVED FIXED


So apparently, when A) someone gets 2753, 3291 & 3404 RESOLVED, and B) someone 
updates http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ShowStoppers150 to indicate no show stoppers 
are left?


You want to just do B? :P :)

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: List problem

2007-07-02 Thread Todd Denniston

Nick and Anne Hopton wrote:
I suffering some minor pain with a list problem. This happens when 
someone posts using not the list submission address 
(lyx-users@lists.lyx.org) but posts a reply to the original sender, with 
a cc. to the list. At my end, this causes postings to the list to be 
routed to the wrong mail box and in addition it means that if I try and 
reply to the list the wrong address is inserted in the 'To:' field. Is 
anyone else having this problem at present?


Regards, Nick.

You appear to be using Thunderbird 1.5.X on Windows, if when you define/edit 
the lyx filter, you set the pull down to To or cc instead of just To, you 
should be happier.


Good luck.

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: List problem

2007-07-02 Thread Todd Denniston

Nick and Anne Hopton wrote:
I suffering some minor pain with a list problem. This happens when 
someone posts using not the list submission address 
(lyx-users@lists.lyx.org) but posts a reply to the original sender, with 
a cc. to the list. At my end, this causes postings to the list to be 
routed to the wrong mail box and in addition it means that if I try and 
reply to the list the wrong address is inserted in the 'To:' field. Is 
anyone else having this problem at present?


Regards, Nick.

You appear to be using Thunderbird 1.5.X on Windows, if when you define/edit 
the lyx filter, you set the pull down to To or cc instead of just To, you 
should be happier.


Good luck.

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: List problem

2007-07-02 Thread Todd Denniston

Nick and Anne Hopton wrote:
I suffering some minor pain with a list problem. This happens when 
someone posts using not the list submission address 
(lyx-users@lists.lyx.org) but posts a reply to the original sender, with 
a cc. to the list. At my end, this causes postings to the list to be 
routed to the wrong mail box and in addition it means that if I try and 
reply to the list the wrong address is inserted in the 'To:' field. Is 
anyone else having this problem at present?


Regards, Nick.

You appear to be using Thunderbird 1.5.X on Windows, if when you define/edit 
the lyx filter, you set the pull down to "To or cc" instead of just "To", you 
should be happier.


Good luck.

--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: installing LyX 1.5 0rc2 and BUG in exporting to 1.4

2007-06-29 Thread Todd Denniston

Christopher Reeve wrote:

Hi, I have two problems. I just bought a mac laptop which I would like to 
install version 1.5 (which looks great) but am using linux(fedora 2) in my 
office. Before installing to my laptop I tested LyX 1.5 on a Windoze machine.


SNIP
Problem 2. 
I was only trying to export to version 1.4 because I can't install version 1.5 on my Linux machine. When running ./Configure it reported the following errror:

** qt 4 library not found !
The version of qt installed on it was 3.3 so I upgraded to version 4.3. I'm not an expert at installing Linux software but tried to follow the instructions. I'm not sure if I added it to my path correctly, so this time I tried to compile with 
./Configure --with-extra-lib=/usr/localTrolltech/Qt/bin


but the error ** qt 4 library not found ! was returned again.



My first comment/question is, if you can install Qt 4.3 on an FC2 box, any 
reason you are not allowed to just update the whole box to Fedora 7?


IIRC, the problem is pkg-config does not know where to look.
I think something like setting
export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=`find /usr/localTrolltech/Qt -name pkgconfig`
before running the lyx configure, would probably do it (assuming only one 
pkgconfig directory).


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: installing LyX 1.5 0rc2 and BUG in exporting to 1.4

2007-06-29 Thread Todd Denniston

Christopher Reeve wrote:

Hi, I have two problems. I just bought a mac laptop which I would like to 
install version 1.5 (which looks great) but am using linux(fedora 2) in my 
office. Before installing to my laptop I tested LyX 1.5 on a Windoze machine.


SNIP
Problem 2. 
I was only trying to export to version 1.4 because I can't install version 1.5 on my Linux machine. When running ./Configure it reported the following errror:

** qt 4 library not found !
The version of qt installed on it was 3.3 so I upgraded to version 4.3. I'm not an expert at installing Linux software but tried to follow the instructions. I'm not sure if I added it to my path correctly, so this time I tried to compile with 
./Configure --with-extra-lib=/usr/localTrolltech/Qt/bin


but the error ** qt 4 library not found ! was returned again.



My first comment/question is, if you can install Qt 4.3 on an FC2 box, any 
reason you are not allowed to just update the whole box to Fedora 7?


IIRC, the problem is pkg-config does not know where to look.
I think something like setting
export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=`find /usr/localTrolltech/Qt -name pkgconfig`
before running the lyx configure, would probably do it (assuming only one 
pkgconfig directory).


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: installing LyX 1.5 0rc2 and BUG in exporting to 1.4

2007-06-29 Thread Todd Denniston

Christopher Reeve wrote:

Hi, I have two problems. I just bought a mac laptop which I would like to 
install version 1.5 (which looks great) but am using linux(fedora 2) in my 
office. Before installing to my laptop I tested LyX 1.5 on a Windoze machine.



Problem 2. 
I was only trying to export to version 1.4 because I can't install version 1.5 on my Linux machine. When running ./Configure it reported the following errror:

** qt 4 library not found !
The version of qt installed on it was 3.3 so I upgraded to version 4.3. I'm not an expert at installing Linux software but tried to follow the instructions. I'm not sure if I added it to my path correctly, so this time I tried to compile with 
./Configure --with-extra-lib=/usr/localTrolltech/Qt/bin


but the error ** qt 4 library not found ! was returned again.



My first comment/question is, if you can install Qt 4.3 on an FC2 box, any 
reason you are not allowed to just update the whole box to Fedora 7?


IIRC, the problem is pkg-config does not know where to look.
I think something like setting
export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=`find /usr/localTrolltech/Qt -name pkgconfig`
before running the lyx configure, would probably do it (assuming only one 
pkgconfig directory).


--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-26 Thread Todd Denniston

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Darren == Darren Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



And you can't erase past the beginning of the document,


Darren Now you're being silly. You can't do that in ordinary text
Darren editors either.

But LyX is no ordinary text editor. 


Darren I'm not talking about a functional change, I'm talking about a
Darren user interface change back to past behaviour that was probably
Darren once considered correct.

This was _not_ past behaviour.

JMarc




Was not the original behavior, to always pop a gentle nudge reminder in the 
bar at the bottom of the window indicating something along the lines two 
spaces don't make sense here.?


The current revs [at least since 1.4.3] only do it once.  I liked the old 
behavior of reminding me that I had escaped an Office product, after a few 
hours of lyx editing I would get used to it again and enjoy the lack of need 
to do hand formating.


$0.02
--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-26 Thread Todd Denniston

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Darren == Darren Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



And you can't erase past the beginning of the document,


Darren Now you're being silly. You can't do that in ordinary text
Darren editors either.

But LyX is no ordinary text editor. 


Darren I'm not talking about a functional change, I'm talking about a
Darren user interface change back to past behaviour that was probably
Darren once considered correct.

This was _not_ past behaviour.

JMarc




Was not the original behavior, to always pop a gentle nudge reminder in the 
bar at the bottom of the window indicating something along the lines two 
spaces don't make sense here.?


The current revs [at least since 1.4.3] only do it once.  I liked the old 
behavior of reminding me that I had escaped an Office product, after a few 
hours of lyx editing I would get used to it again and enjoy the lack of need 
to do hand formating.


$0.02
--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-26 Thread Todd Denniston

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

"Darren" == Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:



And you can't erase past the beginning of the document,


Darren> Now you're being silly. You can't do that in ordinary text
Darren> editors either.

But LyX is no ordinary text editor. 


Darren> I'm not talking about a functional change, I'm talking about a
Darren> user interface change back to past behaviour that was probably
Darren> once considered "correct".

This was _not_ past behaviour.

JMarc




Was not the original behavior, to always pop a gentle nudge reminder in the 
bar at the bottom of the window indicating something along the lines "two 
spaces don't make sense here."?


The current revs [at least since 1.4.3] only do it once.  I liked the old 
behavior of reminding me that I had escaped an "Office" product, after a few 
hours of lyx editing I would get used to it again and enjoy the lack of need 
to do hand formating.


$0.02
--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Merging lyx documents (can version tracking be abbused for this)

2007-06-07 Thread Todd Denniston

Micha Feigin wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:06:44 +0200
Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]

[...]

To really save work here, learn to use the changetracking feature.
Then show your coworker LyX, perhaps he'll be impressed enough
to use it - you can then pass LyX documents back and forth
using changetracking. LyX will not prevent him from using LaTeX,
he may still apply all tricks he knows using ERT.



I can probably push lyx on her. The two problems are that we do a lot of work
for journals and conferences and most of them use all kinds of wierd document
styles which can make things a little auckward occationally.

The actual issue here won't be solved though by the default change tracking
implementation. What I need is a way to work in parrallel on the same version
and then merge the changes.

I see two proposed enhancements here at the moment.
1. Allow the change tracking system produce a three way merge (not sure how
difficult)
2. Allow using an existing lyx layout with just changing the latex style file.

It will be nice if someone else is interested enough, otherwise, I'm hoping to
have some time in about 3-4 months to start amusing myself with this.



You might be able to solve your problems by changing your procedures a little.
You are working on a document in parallel...
Answer the following questions:
1) Can the document be broken up in to chapters/sections?
2) Are the two of you _normally_ working on the same chapter/section?
3) Are you adverse to having a master document that pulls in sub-documents?
4) Are you on windows or Unix? (determines some of the other tools that would 
be suggested.)



if (1) is  yes, then if you can create the outline of the document this will 
put physical space in the document between your changes, this makes using 
things like patch, rcs and CVS easier.


if (2) is yes, then likely the current tools can't help. if (2) is no then 
tools like patch, rcs and CVS can make your lives a little easier, with 
communication and practice.


if (3) is no, using the tools already mentioned becomes a lot easier.

if (4) is Unix, you probably already have the tools you need. if (4) is 
windows, we (the group) can probably guide you in finding _some_ of the tools 
to make things work better [CVSNT].


Folks in the group have tackled multiple people working on the same document a 
few times already.


Or did I misread your desire here?
--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


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