Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-14 Thread Jörg Haug

Mitrana Cristian schrieb:

 Hello lyxers,
  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical
 substances, something like :
   _
 /  \\
 \\_/
 and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
 available for this kind of figures.If not, I'll have
 to draw iy myself, but I was hoping somebody did that
 already .
   Cristi

 --

I use PPCHTeX for chemical figures. It works well and you can construct
more complex figures with it.

Jörg




Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-14 Thread Kevin Gross

On Friday 11 May 2001 16:52, you wrote:
 Ochem works quite well.  It makes chemical structures which IMHO are
 distinctly superior to regular drawing programs.  The syntax takes some
 effort to learn, but I have also created some macros which simplify certain
 types.  It has the drawback of not (yet) working with files which contain
 other image type (eps, etc.).

 If your requirements are really simple then it should work well without a
 lot of effort.  I would suggest this route if you are going to be doing
 this a lot.

 I have created a script for exporting Lyx files to PS under (1.1.16fix1),
 both for viewing and printing.  If you wish I can send it to you.

 There are also a number of drawing programs which can export to ps, which
 you can place as an image.  Look on SAL for these.  While I may not prefer
 their results over Ochem, most people aren't sticklers (sp?) like me about
 the results.  :-)

 http://sal.kachinatech.com/Z/2/index.shtml

 Kenward

Regarding Ochem, is there a manual available in English? Perhaps a website 
explaining how it is used? It looks quite promising, but I can't read German. 
I, too, am a stickler about results and would like get Ochem working.

Thanks,

Kevin Gross



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-14 Thread Kenward Vaughan

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:32:26PM -0400, Kevin Gross wrote:
 On Friday 11 May 2001 16:52, you wrote:
  Ochem works quite well.  It makes chemical structures which IMHO are
  distinctly superior to regular drawing programs.  The syntax takes some
...
 
 Regarding Ochem, is there a manual available in English? Perhaps a website 
 explaining how it is used? It looks quite promising, but I can't read German. 
 I, too, am a stickler about results and would like get Ochem working.

Hi, Kevin!

Yes, Ingo does have a partially (mostly) translated English version.  His
more recent changes I got out of the German version.  I'll scrounge around
and see if I can find/send it to you.  I will be writing him soon myself as
I am updating my macros, and will be suggesting its inclusion in the
distribution.

Kenward
-- 
It is not so very important for a person to learn facts.  For that he
doesn't really need a college education, for he can learn them from
books.  The value of an education in a liberal arts college is not the
learning of many facts but the training of the mind to thinking--something
that cannot be learned from books. Albert Einstein



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-14 Thread Jörg Haug

Mitrana Cristian schrieb:

 Hello lyxers,
  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical
 substances, something like :
   _
 /  \\
 \\_/
 and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
 available for this kind of figures.If not, I'll have
 to draw iy myself, but I was hoping somebody did that
 already .
   Cristi

 --

I use PPCHTeX for chemical figures. It works well and you can construct
more complex figures with it.

Jörg




Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-14 Thread Kevin Gross

On Friday 11 May 2001 16:52, you wrote:
 Ochem works quite well.  It makes chemical structures which IMHO are
 distinctly superior to regular drawing programs.  The syntax takes some
 effort to learn, but I have also created some macros which simplify certain
 types.  It has the drawback of not (yet) working with files which contain
 other image type (eps, etc.).

 If your requirements are really simple then it should work well without a
 lot of effort.  I would suggest this route if you are going to be doing
 this a lot.

 I have created a script for exporting Lyx files to PS under (1.1.16fix1),
 both for viewing and printing.  If you wish I can send it to you.

 There are also a number of drawing programs which can export to ps, which
 you can place as an image.  Look on SAL for these.  While I may not prefer
 their results over Ochem, most people aren't sticklers (sp?) like me about
 the results.  :-)

 http://sal.kachinatech.com/Z/2/index.shtml

 Kenward

Regarding Ochem, is there a manual available in English? Perhaps a website 
explaining how it is used? It looks quite promising, but I can't read German. 
I, too, am a stickler about results and would like get Ochem working.

Thanks,

Kevin Gross



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-14 Thread Kenward Vaughan

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:32:26PM -0400, Kevin Gross wrote:
 On Friday 11 May 2001 16:52, you wrote:
  Ochem works quite well.  It makes chemical structures which IMHO are
  distinctly superior to regular drawing programs.  The syntax takes some
...
 
 Regarding Ochem, is there a manual available in English? Perhaps a website 
 explaining how it is used? It looks quite promising, but I can't read German. 
 I, too, am a stickler about results and would like get Ochem working.

Hi, Kevin!

Yes, Ingo does have a partially (mostly) translated English version.  His
more recent changes I got out of the German version.  I'll scrounge around
and see if I can find/send it to you.  I will be writing him soon myself as
I am updating my macros, and will be suggesting its inclusion in the
distribution.

Kenward
-- 
It is not so very important for a person to learn facts.  For that he
doesn't really need a college education, for he can learn them from
books.  The value of an education in a liberal arts college is not the
learning of many facts but the training of the mind to thinking--something
that cannot be learned from books. Albert Einstein



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-14 Thread Jörg Haug

Mitrana Cristian schrieb:

> Hello lyxers,
>  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical
> substances, something like :
>   _
> /  \\
> \\_/
> and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
> available for this kind of figures.If not, I'll have
> to draw iy myself, but I was hoping somebody did that
> already .
>   Cristi
>
> --

I use PPCHTeX for chemical figures. It works well and you can construct
more complex figures with it.

Jörg




Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-14 Thread Kevin Gross

On Friday 11 May 2001 16:52, you wrote:
> Ochem works quite well.  It makes chemical structures which IMHO are
> distinctly superior to regular drawing programs.  The syntax takes some
> effort to learn, but I have also created some macros which simplify certain
> types.  It has the drawback of not (yet) working with files which contain
> other image type (eps, etc.).
>
> If your requirements are really simple then it should work well without a
> lot of effort.  I would suggest this route if you are going to be doing
> this a lot.
>
> I have created a script for exporting Lyx files to PS under (1.1.16fix1),
> both for viewing and printing.  If you wish I can send it to you.
>
> There are also a number of drawing programs which can export to ps, which
> you can place as an image.  Look on SAL for these.  While I may not prefer
> their results over Ochem, most people aren't sticklers (sp?) like me about
> the results.  :-)
>
> http://sal.kachinatech.com/Z/2/index.shtml
>
> Kenward

Regarding Ochem, is there a manual available in English? Perhaps a website 
explaining how it is used? It looks quite promising, but I can't read German. 
I, too, am a stickler about results and would like get Ochem working.

Thanks,

Kevin Gross



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-14 Thread Kenward Vaughan

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:32:26PM -0400, Kevin Gross wrote:
> On Friday 11 May 2001 16:52, you wrote:
> > Ochem works quite well.  It makes chemical structures which IMHO are
> > distinctly superior to regular drawing programs.  The syntax takes some
...
 
> Regarding Ochem, is there a manual available in English? Perhaps a website 
> explaining how it is used? It looks quite promising, but I can't read German. 
> I, too, am a stickler about results and would like get Ochem working.

Hi, Kevin!

Yes, Ingo does have a partially (mostly) translated English version.  His
more recent changes I got out of the German version.  I'll scrounge around
and see if I can find/send it to you.  I will be writing him soon myself as
I am updating my macros, and will be suggesting its inclusion in the
distribution.

Kenward
-- 
It is not so very important for a person to learn facts.  For that he
doesn't really need a college education, for he can learn them from
books.  The value of an education in a liberal arts college is not the
learning of many facts but the training of the mind to thinking--something
that cannot be learned from books. Albert Einstein



Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Mitrana Cristian

Hello lyxers,
 I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
substances, something like :
  _
/  \\
\\_/ 
and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
available for this kind of figures.If not, I'll have
to draw iy myself, but I was hoping somebody did that
already .
  Cristi

-- 



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Herbert Voss



Mitrana Cristian wrote:

 Hello lyxers,
  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
 substances, something like :
   _
 /  \\
 \\_/ 
 and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
 available for this kind of figures.If not, I'll have
 to draw iy myself, but I was hoping somebody did that
 already .

look at
http://www.dante.de/CTAN/help/Catalogue/brief.html
there are many chemical packages

Herbert



-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Mitrana Cristian

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote:
 On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:37:33PM +0300, Mitrana Cristian wrote:
  Hello lyxers,
   I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
  substances, something like :
_
  /  \\
  \\_/ 
  and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package

 Not sure, but did you tried 
 $CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/supported/chemsym or try 
 www.ctan.org/help/Catalogue and there search for chemistry or 
 something appropriate.
 
 Matej
I looked over the chemsym package but all it does is 
nice typesetting of the chemical equations.
 Thanks anyway, to you and Mr. Herbert Voss 
  for the reply.

I'll just have to be less lazy and draw myself those
figures :).
   
  Cristi
  
-- 



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Herbert Voss

Mitrana Cristian wrote:

 On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote:
 
 On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:37:33PM +0300, Mitrana Cristian wrote:
 
 Hello lyxers,
  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
 substances, something like :
   _
 /  \\
 \\_/ 
 and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
 
 
 Not sure, but did you tried 
 $CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/supported/chemsym or try 
 www.ctan.org/help/Catalogue and there search for chemistry or 
 something appropriate.
 
 Matej
 
 I looked over the chemsym package but all it does is 
 nice typesetting of the chemical equations.
  Thanks anyway, to you and Mr. Herbert Voss 
   for the reply.

I have no idea about chemistry (since my schooldays ... ;-)
but the following picture take only two minutes. one of
them for installing chemtex.sty

the code was in tex(red)

\initial
\parbox{.3\textwidth}{\hetisix{Q}{Q}{Q}{Q}{Q}{Q}{O}{Q}{O}
\xi=-85 \fuseup{Q}{Q}{Q}{Q}{D}{Q}{D}{Q}{D}}


Herbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Mitrana Cristian

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 11:05:06PM +0300, Mitrana Cristian wrote:
 On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote:
I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
   substances, something like :
 _
   /  \\
   \\_/ 
   and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
 
It's me again :), this time done some search in the CTAN
catalogue and found the xymtex package that does the
tricky figures and suites me right. So, if anybody 
need this in the future..

 thanks for the support and happy lyx-ing, 
 Cristi
-- 



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Kenward Vaughan

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:37:33PM +0300, Mitrana Cristian wrote:
 Hello lyxers,
  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
 substances, something like :
   _
 /  \\
 \\_/ 
 and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
 available for this kind of figures.If not, I'll have
 to draw iy myself, but I was hoping somebody did that
 already .

Ochem works quite well.  It makes chemical structures which IMHO are
distinctly superior to regular drawing programs.  The syntax takes some
effort to learn, but I have also created some macros which simplify certain
types.  It has the drawback of not (yet) working with files which contain
other image type (eps, etc.).  

If your requirements are really simple then it should work well without a
lot of effort.  I would suggest this route if you are going to be doing this
a lot.

I have created a script for exporting Lyx files to PS under (1.1.16fix1),
both for viewing and printing.  If you wish I can send it to you.

There are also a number of drawing programs which can export to ps, which
you can place as an image.  Look on SAL for these.  While I may not prefer
their results over Ochem, most people aren't sticklers (sp?) like me about
the results.  :-) 

http://sal.kachinatech.com/Z/2/index.shtml
 
Kenward
-- 
It is not so very important for a person to learn facts.  For that he
doesn't really need a college education, for he can learn them from
books.  The value of an education in a liberal arts college is not the
learning of many facts but the training of the mind to thinking--something
that cannot be learned from books. Albert Einstein



Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Mitrana Cristian

Hello lyxers,
 I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
substances, something like :
  _
/  \\
\\_/ 
and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
available for this kind of figures.If not, I'll have
to draw iy myself, but I was hoping somebody did that
already .
  Cristi

-- 



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Herbert Voss



Mitrana Cristian wrote:

 Hello lyxers,
  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
 substances, something like :
   _
 /  \\
 \\_/ 
 and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
 available for this kind of figures.If not, I'll have
 to draw iy myself, but I was hoping somebody did that
 already .

look at
http://www.dante.de/CTAN/help/Catalogue/brief.html
there are many chemical packages

Herbert



-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Mitrana Cristian

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote:
 On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:37:33PM +0300, Mitrana Cristian wrote:
  Hello lyxers,
   I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
  substances, something like :
_
  /  \\
  \\_/ 
  and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package

 Not sure, but did you tried 
 $CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/supported/chemsym or try 
 www.ctan.org/help/Catalogue and there search for chemistry or 
 something appropriate.
 
 Matej
I looked over the chemsym package but all it does is 
nice typesetting of the chemical equations.
 Thanks anyway, to you and Mr. Herbert Voss 
  for the reply.

I'll just have to be less lazy and draw myself those
figures :).
   
  Cristi
  
-- 



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Herbert Voss

Mitrana Cristian wrote:

 On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote:
 
 On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:37:33PM +0300, Mitrana Cristian wrote:
 
 Hello lyxers,
  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
 substances, something like :
   _
 /  \\
 \\_/ 
 and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
 
 
 Not sure, but did you tried 
 $CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/supported/chemsym or try 
 www.ctan.org/help/Catalogue and there search for chemistry or 
 something appropriate.
 
 Matej
 
 I looked over the chemsym package but all it does is 
 nice typesetting of the chemical equations.
  Thanks anyway, to you and Mr. Herbert Voss 
   for the reply.

I have no idea about chemistry (since my schooldays ... ;-)
but the following picture take only two minutes. one of
them for installing chemtex.sty

the code was in tex(red)

\initial
\parbox{.3\textwidth}{\hetisix{Q}{Q}{Q}{Q}{Q}{Q}{O}{Q}{O}
\xi=-85 \fuseup{Q}{Q}{Q}{Q}{D}{Q}{D}{Q}{D}}


Herbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Mitrana Cristian

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 11:05:06PM +0300, Mitrana Cristian wrote:
 On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote:
I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
   substances, something like :
 _
   /  \\
   \\_/ 
   and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
 
It's me again :), this time done some search in the CTAN
catalogue and found the xymtex package that does the
tricky figures and suites me right. So, if anybody 
need this in the future..

 thanks for the support and happy lyx-ing, 
 Cristi
-- 



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Kenward Vaughan

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:37:33PM +0300, Mitrana Cristian wrote:
 Hello lyxers,
  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
 substances, something like :
   _
 /  \\
 \\_/ 
 and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
 available for this kind of figures.If not, I'll have
 to draw iy myself, but I was hoping somebody did that
 already .

Ochem works quite well.  It makes chemical structures which IMHO are
distinctly superior to regular drawing programs.  The syntax takes some
effort to learn, but I have also created some macros which simplify certain
types.  It has the drawback of not (yet) working with files which contain
other image type (eps, etc.).  

If your requirements are really simple then it should work well without a
lot of effort.  I would suggest this route if you are going to be doing this
a lot.

I have created a script for exporting Lyx files to PS under (1.1.16fix1),
both for viewing and printing.  If you wish I can send it to you.

There are also a number of drawing programs which can export to ps, which
you can place as an image.  Look on SAL for these.  While I may not prefer
their results over Ochem, most people aren't sticklers (sp?) like me about
the results.  :-) 

http://sal.kachinatech.com/Z/2/index.shtml
 
Kenward
-- 
It is not so very important for a person to learn facts.  For that he
doesn't really need a college education, for he can learn them from
books.  The value of an education in a liberal arts college is not the
learning of many facts but the training of the mind to thinking--something
that cannot be learned from books. Albert Einstein



Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Mitrana Cristian

Hello lyxers,
 I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
substances, something like :
  _
/  \\
\\_/ 
and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
available for this kind of figures.If not, I'll have
to draw iy myself, but I was hoping somebody did that
already .
  Cristi

-- 



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Herbert Voss



Mitrana Cristian wrote:

> Hello lyxers,
>  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
> substances, something like :
>   _
> /  \\
> \\_/ 
> and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
> available for this kind of figures.If not, I'll have
> to draw iy myself, but I was hoping somebody did that
> already .

look at
http://www.dante.de/CTAN/help/Catalogue/brief.html
there are many chemical packages

Herbert



-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Mitrana Cristian

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:37:33PM +0300, Mitrana Cristian wrote:
> > Hello lyxers,
> >  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
> > substances, something like :
> >   _
> > /  \\
> > \\_/ 
> > and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package

> Not sure, but did you tried 
> $CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/supported/chemsym or try 
> www.ctan.org/help/Catalogue and there search for "chemistry" or 
> something appropriate.
> 
> Matej
I looked over the chemsym package but all it does is 
nice typesetting of the chemical equations.
 Thanks anyway, to you and Mr. Herbert Voss 
  for the reply.

I'll just have to be less lazy and draw myself those
figures :).
   
  Cristi
  
-- 



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Herbert Voss

Mitrana Cristian wrote:

> On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:37:33PM +0300, Mitrana Cristian wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello lyxers,
>>>  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
>>> substances, something like :
>>>   _
>>> /  \\
>>> \\_/ 
>>> and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
>> 
> 
>> Not sure, but did you tried 
>> $CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/supported/chemsym or try 
>> www.ctan.org/help/Catalogue and there search for "chemistry" or 
>> something appropriate.
>> 
>> Matej
> 
> I looked over the chemsym package but all it does is 
> nice typesetting of the chemical equations.
>  Thanks anyway, to you and Mr. Herbert Voss 
>   for the reply.

I have no idea about chemistry (since my schooldays ... ;-)
but the following picture take only two minutes. one of
them for installing chemtex.sty

the code was in tex(red)

\initial
\parbox{.3\textwidth}{\hetisix{Q}{Q}{Q}{Q}{Q}{Q}{O}{Q}{O}
\xi=-85 \fuseup{Q}{Q}{Q}{Q}{D}{Q}{D}{Q}{D}}


Herbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Mitrana Cristian

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 11:05:06PM +0300, Mitrana Cristian wrote:
> On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote:
> > >  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
> > > substances, something like :
> > >   _
> > > /  \\
> > > \\_/ 
> > > and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
> 
It's me again :), this time done some search in the CTAN
catalogue and found the xymtex package that does the
tricky figures and suites me right. So, if anybody 
need this in the future..

 thanks for the support and happy lyx-ing, 
 Cristi
-- 



Re: Chemical substance in LaTeX

2001-05-11 Thread Kenward Vaughan

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:37:33PM +0300, Mitrana Cristian wrote:
> Hello lyxers,
>  I am trying to write a figure with some chemical 
> substances, something like :
>   _
> /  \\
> \\_/ 
> and I was wondering if there is some (exotic) package
> available for this kind of figures.If not, I'll have
> to draw iy myself, but I was hoping somebody did that
> already .

Ochem works quite well.  It makes chemical structures which IMHO are
distinctly superior to regular drawing programs.  The syntax takes some
effort to learn, but I have also created some macros which simplify certain
types.  It has the drawback of not (yet) working with files which contain
other image type (eps, etc.).  

If your requirements are really simple then it should work well without a
lot of effort.  I would suggest this route if you are going to be doing this
a lot.

I have created a script for exporting Lyx files to PS under (1.1.16fix1),
both for viewing and printing.  If you wish I can send it to you.

There are also a number of drawing programs which can export to ps, which
you can place as an image.  Look on SAL for these.  While I may not prefer
their results over Ochem, most people aren't sticklers (sp?) like me about
the results.  :-) 

http://sal.kachinatech.com/Z/2/index.shtml
 
Kenward
-- 
It is not so very important for a person to learn facts.  For that he
doesn't really need a college education, for he can learn them from
books.  The value of an education in a liberal arts college is not the
learning of many facts but the training of the mind to thinking--something
that cannot be learned from books. Albert Einstein