Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? Edit by hand tkbibtex pybliographer (It's practical?) Of course, later I want an easy citation in Lyx Thanks for all I only tried tkbibtex, and it works fine with LyX. Things I appreciate are: - easy to install (just a tcl/tk script) - a few command line option to sort, extract... entries of the bib file - the popup menu for an easy insert of your strings (which have to be defined in an hand made separate file) - about five minutes needed to learn how to use the all features The only problem I've saw is that existing bibfiles have to respect a few constraints to be readable by the prog (one line/field...) Thomas.
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:09:02 +0200 (MET DST) wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? Edit by hand Not really. (Still it is an advantage of bibtex, that you are able to do so with any normal text editor.) tkbibtex This would be my program of choice: - higly configurable (both from a user-rc file or by changing the skript) - easy and transparent in use - easy installation (just one file!) (of course you need a running tcl/Tk) - push to Lyx insertion of citations in LyX pybliographer (It's practical?) Practical (becouse GUI) is pybliographic. Still - more complex (in my opinion) You see, my preference goes to tkbibtex (also, becouse I spend some months on improving it, so no wonder it appeares to me as straightforward and fit to my needs). Push to LyX is no longer so important, as with LyX 1.6 you have the possibility to scan the database from within LyX (ok, for larger databases the find utility of the abovementioned programs is nice to have) Both, tkbibtex and pybliographer become slow for large databases: For my previous institute I managed a large database with included abstacts and annotations (ca. 800 entries, 18800 lines). Tkbibtex needs one minute to read this in (and also long for full-text searches) and pybliographic is not faster. (Becouse of the skripting-nature of both of them). In this case, gbib (http://gbib.seul.org/) might be a good choice, it has push to LyX as well. Finally: I believe it is a matter of taste - try them and see what you like most. Guenter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2001 09:59 schrieben Sie:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:09:02 +0200 (MET DST) wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to
me?
[...]
In this case, gbib (http://gbib.seul.org/) might be a good choice, it has
push to LyX as well.
I use gbib as well. I have never tried tkbibtex and pybliographer since gbib
seems to have a more convenient user interface (only judging by screenshots).
BUT: you have to be careful - it has some bugs:
- in case the number of opening and closing braces per entry doesn't
match (e.g. Zeitschrift f{\ur Dichtung) gbib generates invalid
bibfiles which get corrupted when they are saved again with gbib
(two bibitems are merged together)!!
- If you create an bibitem with an emtpy author, the saved bibtex file
isn't valid:
@book{ap:kolonne,
,
editor = {A. Artur Kuhnert and Martin Raschke},
...
I sent a patch to the maintainers but got no reply - so I don't know
if gbib is still being maintained.
Marko
Finally: I believe it is a matter of taste - try them and see what you like
most.
Guenter
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? Edit by hand tkbibtex pybliographer (It's practical?) Of course, later I want an easy citation in Lyx Thanks for all I only tried tkbibtex, and it works fine with LyX. Things I appreciate are: - easy to install (just a tcl/tk script) - a few command line option to sort, extract... entries of the bib file - the popup menu for an easy insert of your strings (which have to be defined in an hand made separate file) - about five minutes needed to learn how to use the all features The only problem I've saw is that existing bibfiles have to respect a few constraints to be readable by the prog (one line/field...) Thomas.
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:09:02 +0200 (MET DST) wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? Edit by hand Not really. (Still it is an advantage of bibtex, that you are able to do so with any normal text editor.) tkbibtex This would be my program of choice: - higly configurable (both from a user-rc file or by changing the skript) - easy and transparent in use - easy installation (just one file!) (of course you need a running tcl/Tk) - push to Lyx insertion of citations in LyX pybliographer (It's practical?) Practical (becouse GUI) is pybliographic. Still - more complex (in my opinion) You see, my preference goes to tkbibtex (also, becouse I spend some months on improving it, so no wonder it appeares to me as straightforward and fit to my needs). Push to LyX is no longer so important, as with LyX 1.6 you have the possibility to scan the database from within LyX (ok, for larger databases the find utility of the abovementioned programs is nice to have) Both, tkbibtex and pybliographer become slow for large databases: For my previous institute I managed a large database with included abstacts and annotations (ca. 800 entries, 18800 lines). Tkbibtex needs one minute to read this in (and also long for full-text searches) and pybliographic is not faster. (Becouse of the skripting-nature of both of them). In this case, gbib (http://gbib.seul.org/) might be a good choice, it has push to LyX as well. Finally: I believe it is a matter of taste - try them and see what you like most. Guenter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2001 09:59 schrieben Sie:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:09:02 +0200 (MET DST) wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to
me?
[...]
In this case, gbib (http://gbib.seul.org/) might be a good choice, it has
push to LyX as well.
I use gbib as well. I have never tried tkbibtex and pybliographer since gbib
seems to have a more convenient user interface (only judging by screenshots).
BUT: you have to be careful - it has some bugs:
- in case the number of opening and closing braces per entry doesn't
match (e.g. Zeitschrift f{\ur Dichtung) gbib generates invalid
bibfiles which get corrupted when they are saved again with gbib
(two bibitems are merged together)!!
- If you create an bibitem with an emtpy author, the saved bibtex file
isn't valid:
@book{ap:kolonne,
,
editor = {A. Artur Kuhnert and Martin Raschke},
...
I sent a patch to the maintainers but got no reply - so I don't know
if gbib is still being maintained.
Marko
Finally: I believe it is a matter of taste - try them and see what you like
most.
Guenter
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? > > Edit by hand > tkbibtex > pybliographer (It's practical?) > > Of course, later I want an easy citation in Lyx > > Thanks for all I only tried tkbibtex, and it works fine with LyX. Things I appreciate are: - easy to install (just a tcl/tk script) - a few command line option to sort, extract... entries of the bib file - the popup menu for an easy insert of your strings (which have to be defined in an hand made separate file) - about five minutes needed to learn how to use the all features The only problem I've saw is that existing bibfiles have to respect a few constraints to be readable by the prog (one line/field...) Thomas.
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:09:02 +0200 (MET DST) wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? > > Edit by hand Not really. (Still it is an advantage of bibtex, that you are able to do so with any "normal" text editor.) > tkbibtex This would be my program of choice: - higly configurable (both from a user-rc file or by changing the skript) - easy and transparent in use - easy installation (just one file!) (of course you need a running tcl/Tk) - "push to Lyx" insertion of citations in LyX > pybliographer (It's practical?) Practical (becouse GUI) is pybliographic. Still - more complex (in my opinion) You see, my preference goes to tkbibtex (also, becouse I spend some months on improving it, so no wonder it appeares to me as straightforward and "fit to my needs"). Push to LyX is no longer so important, as with LyX 1.6 you have the possibility to scan the database from within LyX (ok, for larger databases the "find" utility of the abovementioned programs is nice to have) Both, tkbibtex and pybliographer become slow for large databases: For my previous institute I managed a large database with included abstacts and annotations (ca. 800 entries, 18800 lines). Tkbibtex needs one minute to read this in (and also long for full-text searches) and pybliographic is not faster. (Becouse of the skripting-nature of both of them). In this case, gbib (http://gbib.seul.org/) might be a good choice, it has "push to LyX" as well. Finally: I believe it is a matter of taste - try them and see what you like most. Guenter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2001 09:59 schrieben Sie:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:09:02 +0200 (MET DST) wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to
> > me?
[...]
>
> In this case, gbib (http://gbib.seul.org/) might be a good choice, it has
> "push to LyX" as well.
>
I use gbib as well. I have never tried tkbibtex and pybliographer since gbib
seems to have a more convenient user interface (only judging by screenshots).
BUT: you have to be careful - it has some bugs:
- in case the number of opening and closing braces per entry doesn't
match (e.g. Zeitschrift f{\"ur Dichtung) gbib generates invalid
bibfiles which get corrupted when they are saved again with gbib
(two bibitems are "merged" together)!!
- If you create an bibitem with an emtpy author, the saved bibtex file
isn't valid:
@book{ap:kolonne,
,
editor = {A. Artur Kuhnert and Martin Raschke},
...
I sent a patch to the maintainers but got no reply - so I don't know
if gbib is still being maintained.
Marko
> Finally: I believe it is a matter of taste - try them and see what you like
> most.
>
>
> Guenter
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Frontend Bibtex recommendation
I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? Edit by hand tkbibtex pybliographer (It's practical?) Of course, later I want an easy citation in Lyx Thanks for all
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? Edit by hand tkbibtex pybliographer (It's practical?) I use pybliographer, but I never used another one ;-) Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? Edit by hand tkbibtex pybliographer (It's practical?) Yes, pybliographer. Current Version AFAIK is 1.08, and it's great. Easy editing (native and GUI-guided), pattern matching, sorting etc. And (of course) works perfectly with LyX... Pit -- Peter Pit Suetterlin http://www.uni-sw.gwdg.de/~pit Universitaets-Sternwarte Goettingen Tel.: +49 551 39-5048 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010620 20:07]: I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? Edit by hand tkbibtex pybliographer (It's practical?) Of course, later I want an easy citation in Lyx I use pybliographic, which is a GTK+ gui for pybliographer, it is easier to use it this way though it should be possible to use the text version of pybliographer. pybliographic (and tkbibtex) allow you to insert a citation from them, that is when you are in a need to enter a citation in LyX you open pybliographic, choose the citation and tell it to insert it into LyX, and by some voodoo magic it appears in LyX. This requires to enable the LyX server support (also known as the voodoo magic helper). -- Baruch Even http://baruch.ev-en.org/
Frontend Bibtex recommendation
I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? Edit by hand tkbibtex pybliographer (It's practical?) Of course, later I want an easy citation in Lyx Thanks for all
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? Edit by hand tkbibtex pybliographer (It's practical?) I use pybliographer, but I never used another one ;-) Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? Edit by hand tkbibtex pybliographer (It's practical?) Yes, pybliographer. Current Version AFAIK is 1.08, and it's great. Easy editing (native and GUI-guided), pattern matching, sorting etc. And (of course) works perfectly with LyX... Pit -- Peter Pit Suetterlin http://www.uni-sw.gwdg.de/~pit Universitaets-Sternwarte Goettingen Tel.: +49 551 39-5048 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010620 20:07]: I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? Edit by hand tkbibtex pybliographer (It's practical?) Of course, later I want an easy citation in Lyx I use pybliographic, which is a GTK+ gui for pybliographer, it is easier to use it this way though it should be possible to use the text version of pybliographer. pybliographic (and tkbibtex) allow you to insert a citation from them, that is when you are in a need to enter a citation in LyX you open pybliographic, choose the citation and tell it to insert it into LyX, and by some voodoo magic it appears in LyX. This requires to enable the LyX server support (also known as the voodoo magic helper). -- Baruch Even http://baruch.ev-en.org/
Frontend Bibtex recommendation
I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? Edit by hand tkbibtex pybliographer (It's practical?) Of course, later I want an easy citation in Lyx Thanks for all
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? > > Edit by hand > tkbibtex > pybliographer (It's practical?) I use pybliographer, but I never used another one ;-) Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? > > Edit by hand > tkbibtex > pybliographer (It's practical?) Yes, pybliographer. Current Version AFAIK is 1.08, and it's great. Easy editing (native and GUI-guided), pattern matching, sorting etc. And (of course) works perfectly with LyX... Pit -- Peter "Pit" Suetterlin http://www.uni-sw.gwdg.de/~pit Universitaets-Sternwarte Goettingen Tel.: +49 551 39-5048 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010620 20:07]: > > I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me? > > Edit by hand > tkbibtex > pybliographer (It's practical?) > > Of course, later I want an easy citation in Lyx I use pybliographic, which is a GTK+ gui for pybliographer, it is easier to use it this way though it should be possible to use the text version of pybliographer. pybliographic (and tkbibtex) allow you to insert a citation from them, that is when you are in a need to enter a citation in LyX you open pybliographic, choose the citation and tell it to insert it into LyX, and by some voodoo magic it appears in LyX. This requires to enable the LyX server support (also known as the voodoo magic helper). -- Baruch Even http://baruch.ev-en.org/
