Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-05 Thread Pete Phillips


Thanks to Dekel for the fix. It works fine now, although I do agree
with others on the list that I think you should have to actively
select something for babel support to be included, instead of having
to opt out of it in a preferences file.

Reagrds,
Pete


 Dekel == Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Dekel On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 10:43:35AM +0100, Pete Phillips
Dekel wrote:
 2 - If there is a fundamental incompatibility with the babel
 package, what can I do to stop lyx using the babel
 functionality ?

Dekel With lyx-1.1.6fix2, you can put the line
Dekel \language_use_babel false in ~/.lyx/preferences , and
Dekel then LyX will not use babel when the language of the
Dekel document is equal to the default language (The default
Dekel language can be set in the preferences dialog,
Dekel lang_opts-language tab).




Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-05 Thread Pete Phillips


Thanks to Dekel for the fix. It works fine now, although I do agree
with others on the list that I think you should have to actively
select something for babel support to be included, instead of having
to opt out of it in a preferences file.

Reagrds,
Pete


 Dekel == Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Dekel On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 10:43:35AM +0100, Pete Phillips
Dekel wrote:
 2 - If there is a fundamental incompatibility with the babel
 package, what can I do to stop lyx using the babel
 functionality ?

Dekel With lyx-1.1.6fix2, you can put the line
Dekel \language_use_babel false in ~/.lyx/preferences , and
Dekel then LyX will not use babel when the language of the
Dekel document is equal to the default language (The default
Dekel language can be set in the preferences dialog,
Dekel lang_opts-language tab).




Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-05 Thread Pete Phillips


Thanks to Dekel for the fix. It works fine now, although I do agree
with others on the list that I think you should have to actively
select something for babel support to be included, instead of having
to opt out of it in a preferences file.

Reagrds,
Pete


> "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Dekel> On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 10:43:35AM +0100, Pete Phillips
Dekel> wrote:
>> 2 - If there is a fundamental incompatibility with the babel
>> package, what can I do to stop lyx using the babel
>> functionality ?

Dekel> With lyx-1.1.6fix2, you can put the line
Dekel> \language_use_babel "false" in ~/.lyx/preferences , and
Dekel> then LyX will not use babel when the language of the
Dekel> document is equal to the default language (The default
Dekel> language can be set in the preferences dialog,
Dekel> lang_opts->language tab).




Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-04 Thread Pete Phillips

Hi

Further to my problem with the newlfm package and layout and temnplate
files, I think I've traced the problem, but I'm not sure how to
resolve it !

I loaded the template up in lyx 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 and exported both as
latex files. A diff between them showed that 1.1.6 is adding some
babel stuff:

diff newfile-old.tex  newfile1.tex 
3c3
 \documentclass[a4paper,stdletter]{newlfm}
---
 \documentclass[a4paper,english,stdletter]{newlfm}
5a6
 \usepackage{babel}

Removing the english option and commenting out the \usepackage{babel}
allowed me to process the file.  So, 2 questions:

1 - why is the babel stuff interfering with the latex processing ? Is
there anything I can do about it ?


2 - If there is a fundamental incompatibility with the babel package,
what can I do to stop lyx using the babel functionality ? 

Pete

 Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Herbert Pete Phillips wrote:
 The template comes up in Lyx, but when I try to print, I get
 the following message:
 
 Undefined control sequence.\LoadClassWithOptions {letter}% the
 control sequence at the end of the top line of your error
 message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it
 ... Otherwise just continue and I'll forget about whatever
 was

Herbert what happens when you comment this line in the cls-file %
Herbert \LoadClassWithOptions{letter}%

Herbert Herbert

Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 Pete == Pete Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Pete 1 - why is the babel stuff interfering with the latex processing
Pete ? Is there anything I can do about it ?

Pete 2 - If there is a fundamental incompatibility with the babel
Pete package, what can I do to stop lyx using the babel functionality
Pete ?

If there is an incompatibility bteween newlfm and babel, this is
probably a bug. What is the error message? Do you have the latest
versions of newlfm and babel?

JMarc



Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-04 Thread Pete Phillips

 Jean-Marc == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jean-Marc If there is an incompatibility bteween newlfm and
Jean-Marc babel, this is probably a bug. What is the error
Jean-Marc message? Do you have the latest versions of newlfm and
Jean-Marc babel?

The babel I have is the one that comes with the tetex 1.0.6
distribution - 3.6.

I do have the latest newlfm, but haven't installed it yet as I wanted
to try to resolve this problem first. Looking at the changelog for 
the latest newlfm, it looks like I make have to make changes to my
layout files, and I don't want to change too many things in one go !

Pete



Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-04 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 10:43:35AM +0100, Pete Phillips wrote:
 2 - If there is a fundamental incompatibility with the babel package,
 what can I do to stop lyx using the babel functionality ? 

With lyx-1.1.6fix2, you can put the line
 \language_use_babel false
in ~/.lyx/preferences , and then LyX will not use babel when the language of
the document is equal to the default language (The default language can be
set in the preferences dialog, lang_opts-language tab).



Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-04 Thread Pete Phillips

Hi

Further to my problem with the newlfm package and layout and temnplate
files, I think I've traced the problem, but I'm not sure how to
resolve it !

I loaded the template up in lyx 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 and exported both as
latex files. A diff between them showed that 1.1.6 is adding some
babel stuff:

diff newfile-old.tex  newfile1.tex 
3c3
 \documentclass[a4paper,stdletter]{newlfm}
---
 \documentclass[a4paper,english,stdletter]{newlfm}
5a6
 \usepackage{babel}

Removing the english option and commenting out the \usepackage{babel}
allowed me to process the file.  So, 2 questions:

1 - why is the babel stuff interfering with the latex processing ? Is
there anything I can do about it ?


2 - If there is a fundamental incompatibility with the babel package,
what can I do to stop lyx using the babel functionality ? 

Pete

 Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Herbert Pete Phillips wrote:
 The template comes up in Lyx, but when I try to print, I get
 the following message:
 
 Undefined control sequence.\LoadClassWithOptions {letter}% the
 control sequence at the end of the top line of your error
 message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it
 ... Otherwise just continue and I'll forget about whatever
 was

Herbert what happens when you comment this line in the cls-file %
Herbert \LoadClassWithOptions{letter}%

Herbert Herbert

Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 Pete == Pete Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Pete 1 - why is the babel stuff interfering with the latex processing
Pete ? Is there anything I can do about it ?

Pete 2 - If there is a fundamental incompatibility with the babel
Pete package, what can I do to stop lyx using the babel functionality
Pete ?

If there is an incompatibility bteween newlfm and babel, this is
probably a bug. What is the error message? Do you have the latest
versions of newlfm and babel?

JMarc



Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-04 Thread Pete Phillips

 Jean-Marc == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jean-Marc If there is an incompatibility bteween newlfm and
Jean-Marc babel, this is probably a bug. What is the error
Jean-Marc message? Do you have the latest versions of newlfm and
Jean-Marc babel?

The babel I have is the one that comes with the tetex 1.0.6
distribution - 3.6.

I do have the latest newlfm, but haven't installed it yet as I wanted
to try to resolve this problem first. Looking at the changelog for 
the latest newlfm, it looks like I make have to make changes to my
layout files, and I don't want to change too many things in one go !

Pete



Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-04 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 10:43:35AM +0100, Pete Phillips wrote:
 2 - If there is a fundamental incompatibility with the babel package,
 what can I do to stop lyx using the babel functionality ? 

With lyx-1.1.6fix2, you can put the line
 \language_use_babel false
in ~/.lyx/preferences , and then LyX will not use babel when the language of
the document is equal to the default language (The default language can be
set in the preferences dialog, lang_opts-language tab).



Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-04 Thread Pete Phillips

Hi

Further to my problem with the newlfm package and layout and temnplate
files, I think I've traced the problem, but I'm not sure how to
resolve it !

I loaded the template up in lyx 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 and exported both as
latex files. A diff between them showed that 1.1.6 is adding some
babel stuff:

diff newfile-old.tex  newfile1.tex 
3c3
< \documentclass[a4paper,stdletter]{newlfm}
---
> \documentclass[a4paper,english,stdletter]{newlfm}
5a6
> \usepackage{babel}

Removing the english option and commenting out the \usepackage{babel}
allowed me to process the file.  So, 2 questions:

1 - why is the babel stuff interfering with the latex processing ? Is
there anything I can do about it ?


2 - If there is a fundamental incompatibility with the babel package,
what can I do to stop lyx using the babel functionality ? 

Pete

> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Herbert> Pete Phillips wrote:
>> The template comes up in Lyx, but when I try to print, I get
>> the following message:
>> 
>> Undefined control sequence.\LoadClassWithOptions {letter}% the
>> control sequence at the end of the top line of your error
>> message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it
>> ... Otherwise just continue and I'll forget about whatever
>> was

Herbert> what happens when you comment this line in the cls-file %
Herbert> \LoadClassWithOptions{letter}%

Herbert> Herbert

Herbert> -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Pete" == Pete Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Pete> 1 - why is the babel stuff interfering with the latex processing
Pete> ? Is there anything I can do about it ?

Pete> 2 - If there is a fundamental incompatibility with the babel
Pete> package, what can I do to stop lyx using the babel functionality
Pete> ?

If there is an incompatibility bteween newlfm and babel, this is
probably a bug. What is the error message? Do you have the latest
versions of newlfm and babel?

JMarc



Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-04 Thread Pete Phillips

> "Jean-Marc" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jean-Marc> If there is an incompatibility bteween newlfm and
Jean-Marc> babel, this is probably a bug. What is the error
Jean-Marc> message? Do you have the latest versions of newlfm and
Jean-Marc> babel?

The babel I have is the one that comes with the tetex 1.0.6
distribution - 3.6.

I do have the latest newlfm, but haven't installed it yet as I wanted
to try to resolve this problem first. Looking at the changelog for 
the latest newlfm, it looks like I make have to make changes to my
layout files, and I don't want to change too many things in one go !

Pete



Re: Problems setting up a layout/template

2001-07-04 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 10:43:35AM +0100, Pete Phillips wrote:
> 2 - If there is a fundamental incompatibility with the babel package,
> what can I do to stop lyx using the babel functionality ? 

With lyx-1.1.6fix2, you can put the line
 \language_use_babel "false"
in ~/.lyx/preferences , and then LyX will not use babel when the language of
the document is equal to the default language (The default language can be
set in the preferences dialog, lang_opts->language tab).