Re: Book about LyX 2.4

2022-10-18 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
I'll be willing to try it on my handbook too :-)-O

el

On 17/10/2022 22:49, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 10:03:51PM +0200, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:
[...]
> Don't worry about it! I'll ask you again whenever we are close to
> releasing 2.4.0 if we really want lyx2lyx to get some extra testing with
> complex documents.
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Re: Book about LyX 2.4

2022-10-18 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Ricardo,

I have an (almost) 1000 page ops handbook of 25 chapters (child
documents) and a common include.tex with 330 includes (listings and
images) and a 550 line Makefile.

It displays in 12 point font in landscape when I need to work something
(like recently reinstalling Perl from Homebrew) and I am DYING to lay my
hands on production LyX 2.4 so I can refine this to export cleanly to
DocBook and thus to Kindle so I can easily carry this around on iPad
:-)-O

Can't use dev in production (medical practice) and don't think 2.3.6.2
can read the new format yet.

I will share my experiences here :-)-O

el


On 17/10/2022 22:03, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:
[...]
> @ Eberhard Lisse
> 
>> when 2.4 final is out you should look at exporting this to DocBook
> because then it can go onto the Kindle...
> 
> I'll do!
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Re: Book about LyX 2.4

2022-10-17 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 10:03:51PM +0200, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:
> Thanks to all!
> 
> @ Bernt Lie
> 
> > Any idea of when LyX 2.4 is released?
> 
> I'm not the right person to answer that! :)

I don't think anyone knows. All of our schedules have been disrupted by
the craziness of the last few years. We are in a weird state where
development is happening, but we are not necessarily getting closer to
2.4.0.

> > What is your workflow for writing a book in multiple languages?
> 
> For the first draft, I start by writing in my native language (Spanish).
> Then I "save as" to create the other files, change their languages and do a
> first translation. Finally, I work more or less in parallel with all of
> them: changing language helps finding new ways to explain things!

Thanks! I think that's how we handle the translations of our manuals as
well. It would be nice if there were an easier workflow so that
everything could be in one .lyx file, but perhaps no such workflow
exists.

> > can you export your .lyx file to 2.3.x, and open the exported file in
> master?
> 
> Not this week, sorry. I'll try to get some free time ASAP.

Don't worry about it! I'll ask you again whenever we are close to
releasing 2.4.0 if we really want lyx2lyx to get some extra testing with
complex documents.

> @ Jack Lyon
> 
> > Would you be so kind as to share the color scheme you are using in LyX?
> 
> It's just the default "breeze dark" theme from my Plasma desktop, I haven't
> changed anything in LyX.
> 
> @ John White

Note that there are improvements to the dark theme in 2.4.0dev, so they
might not work as smoothly on 2.3.x.

Scott


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Re: Book about LyX 2.4

2022-10-17 Thread Ricardo Berlasso
Thanks to all!

@ Bernt Lie

> Any idea of when LyX 2.4 is released?

I'm not the right person to answer that! :)

@ Scott Kostyshak

> What is your workflow for writing a book in multiple languages?

For the first draft, I start by writing in my native language (Spanish).
Then I "save as" to create the other files, change their languages and do a
first translation. Finally, I work more or less in parallel with all of
them: changing language helps finding new ways to explain things!

> can you export your .lyx file to 2.3.x, and open the exported file in
master?

Not this week, sorry. I'll try to get some free time ASAP.

@ Jack Lyon

> Would you be so kind as to share the color scheme you are using in LyX?

It's just the default "breeze dark" theme from my Plasma desktop, I haven't
changed anything in LyX.

@ John White

> let us know of a way we can contribute to your work

Thanks for the offer! I never thought about those things :)

@ Eberhard Lisse

> when 2.4 final is out you should look at exporting this to DocBook
because then it can go onto the Kindle...

I'll do!

Regards,
Ricardo
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Re: Book about LyX 2.4

2022-10-17 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse

Ricardo,

when 2.4 final is out you should look at exporting this to DocBook
because then it can go onto the Kindle...

el

On 2022-10-17 15:17 , Ricardo Berlasso wrote:

I'm a bit crazy, let's face it, so not only have I updated the book I
once wrote about LyX, I've done it in English, Spanish and Italian.

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Re: Book about LyX 2.4

2022-10-17 Thread John White
Thank you Ricardo,

I have printed it out for use by myself and staff.  If we find it useful, as I 
suspect we will, 
let us know of a way we can contribute to your work.

John

On Monday, October 17, 2022 6:17:20 AM PDT Ricardo Berlasso wrote:
> I'm a bit crazy, let's face it, so not only have I updated the book I once
> wrote about LyX, I've done it in English, Spanish and Italian. Here they
> are:
> 
> [EN]
> https://frommindtotype.wordpress.com/lyx-book/
> [ES]
> https://elpinguinotolkiano.wordpress.com/latexxetexlyx/
> [IT]
> https://ilpinguinoscrittore.wordpress.com/xelatexlyx/
> 
> Comments and corrections are welcome. Surely there will be many corrections
> ;)
> 
> Regards,
> Ricardo

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Re: Book about LyX 2.4

2022-10-17 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 03:17:20PM +0200, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:
> I'm a bit crazy, let's face it, so not only have I updated the book I once
> wrote about LyX, I've done it in English, Spanish and Italian. Here they
> are:
> 
> [EN]
> https://frommindtotype.wordpress.com/lyx-book/
> [ES]
> https://elpinguinotolkiano.wordpress.com/latexxetexlyx/
> [IT]
> https://ilpinguinoscrittore.wordpress.com/xelatexlyx/
> 
> Comments and corrections are welcome. Surely there will be many corrections
> ;)

This is great! Congratulations, and thank you. I have questions :)

What is your workflow for writing a book in multiple languages? Are they
completely separate .lyx files, or do you produce them from the same
.lyx file?

Only if you have time (no worries if not!):
Since you have 2.4.0dev set up: can you export your .lyx file to 2.3.x,
and open the exported file in master? Does compilation succeed? Are
there any differences in the PDF? (a great tool for checking is
diffpdf). Doing this "roundtrip" conversion is a helpful test of
lyx2lyx. If you also have 2.3.x installed, in addition to the above, can
you check that 2.3.x can compile the file that you exported from
2.4.0dev?

Thanks,
Scott


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