Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2007 21:00 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  This is what happended:
 
  Lyx was complaining about not enough space in ///tmp/lyx_tmpdir
  since ///tmp is in my case a separate partition (was probably a bad
  idea!) and has only 140MB I changed in Lyx the path to
  /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp.

 Did you create this directory, and did you give it access permissions
 consistent with whatever user id LyX runs under?

I did create the Lyx-tmp file while incidently still under root. So, your 
guess:
 Again, I'm guessing, but maybe LyX tried to write to
 /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp, couldn't find it (or lacked permission),
 reverted to /tmp and then couldn't write there. 

was correct. Sorry for all the fuzz. 

Wolfgang

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2007 21:00 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  This is what happended:
 
  Lyx was complaining about not enough space in ///tmp/lyx_tmpdir
  since ///tmp is in my case a separate partition (was probably a bad
  idea!) and has only 140MB I changed in Lyx the path to
  /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp.

 Did you create this directory, and did you give it access permissions
 consistent with whatever user id LyX runs under?

I did create the Lyx-tmp file while incidently still under root. So, your 
guess:
 Again, I'm guessing, but maybe LyX tried to write to
 /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp, couldn't find it (or lacked permission),
 reverted to /tmp and then couldn't write there. 

was correct. Sorry for all the fuzz. 

Wolfgang

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2007 21:00 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
> Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > This is what happended:
> >
> > Lyx was complaining about not enough space in ///tmp/lyx_tmpdir
> > since ///tmp is in my case a separate partition (was probably a bad
> > idea!) and has only 140MB I changed in Lyx the path to
> > /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp.
>
> Did you create this directory, and did you give it access permissions
> consistent with whatever user id LyX runs under?

I did create the Lyx-tmp file while incidently still under root. So, your 
guess:
> Again, I'm guessing, but maybe LyX tried to write to
> /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp, couldn't find it (or lacked permission),
> reverted to /tmp and then couldn't write there. 

was correct. Sorry for all the fuzz. 

Wolfgang

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2007 23:03 schrieb charlie:
 On Saturday 23 June 2007 02:06, Wolfgang Engelmann shared this with us all:
 --} I have this problem:
 --} my /tmp in root is a separate partition and not very large. I have
  therefore --} changed the path in LyX (toolssettings) to a /tmp in my
  home --} and emptied the  /tmp in root. That was apparently a bad idea,
  since now by --} trying to start lyx I get:
 --}
 --} LyX could not create the temporary directory
  '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4' --}
 --} Lyx is not starting anymore. Do I have to install LyX anew?
 --}
 --} Wolfgang

I had done this already (new path to /home/wolfgang/lyx-tmp/) and afterward 
troubles started. Mind you, I can't start Lyx anymore ---

 In Tools/Preferences/Paths select your temporary directory. It can be
 changed to a /home/user directory easily there.

Thanks, anyway, Charlie

Wolfgang

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[José Matos]

On Saturday 23 June 2007 09:11:24 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
 need
 /home/wolfgang/tmp/ ??

 Any Linux user there who knows?

 I never saw the problems you are describing. :-)

 If I understand you correctly you said that as soon as you changed the 
temporary directory to your home area lyx started complaining that it could 
not create temporary files in /tmp?

  What version are using? (1.4.x I assume).

 Wolfgang

-- 
José Abílio

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2007 20:56 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
Thanks, Paul,

 No.  Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be under
 .lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure).  Open it
 with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file section.  There
 should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it, save the file, and
 try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the original /tmp.  This
 works with 1.5.0rc1, but I'm pretty sure it's the same on 1.4.4.

that worked;
however, the reason I changed to another path (/home/wolfgang/lyx-tmp) was 
that my /tmp in root is a separate partition and has not enough space. So 
this helps for the time being, but is not a permanent solution. But I am sure 
that it should work under the Lyx settings. Does my directory 
in  /home/wolfgang/ has to be /tmp, because Lyx is looking for that kind? 

This is my entrance in the /-lyx/preferences file:
#
# FILE SECTION ##
#

\tempdir_path /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/

it was already there (since I had changed it before troubles started). 

So I got Lyx to work again due to your help, but need another hint 

 I'm a bit fuzzy on what you did (and why it went wrong).  The
 cannot-create message suggests either a nonexistent path or a
 permissions problem. 
The /tmp directory in my Debian Linux OS is under root, but permits reading 
and writing in the containing subdirs

 Again, I'm not a Linux user (although I have 
 fooled around with it in the past), but doesn't /tmp/lyx_tmpdir... imply
 that tmp is mounted at the root level?  (Apologies if I flubbed the
 terminology there.)  If I were using a local temp directory, I would
 have assumed it would look like /home/tmp or /user/me?/tmp.
/home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
need 
/home/wolfgang/tmp/ ??

Any Linux user there who knows?



Wolfgang

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2007 11:18 schrieb José Matos:
 On Saturday 23 June 2007 09:11:24 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
  need
  /home/wolfgang/tmp/ ??
 
  Any Linux user there who knows?

  I never saw the problems you are describing. :-)

  If I understand you correctly you said that as soon as you changed the
 temporary directory to your home area lyx started complaining that it could
 not create temporary files in /tmp?

This is what happended:

Lyx was complaining about not enough space in ///tmp/lyx_tmpdir
since ///tmp is in my case a separate partition (was probably a bad idea!) and 
has only 140MB I changed in Lyx the path to /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp.

 I furthermore removed the content of /lyx_tmpdir in  ///tmp 

I started Lyx and got the message
LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'

I followed the advice of Paul Rubin:
  Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be under 
.lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure).  Open it 
with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file section.  There 
should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it, save the file, and 
try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the original /tmp.  

Lyx created '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir... ' again and I could use Lyx again.

However, the problem stays with me, that the space of the  ///tmp file is 
quickly exhausted (with just one run of a Lyx file -it contains lots of 
figures): 133 out of 140 MB are occupied. 

I don´t know whether I can reduce the size of another partition and increase 
the /tmp-partition. As you have noticed, I am quite unexperienced with 
administrative work and fear things end up in chaos. I would therefore prefer 
to use the method I tried (redirect path to /tmp in my home/wolfgang), if I 
can avoid the problem I described before

   What version are using? (1.4.x I assume).

1.4.3

 Wolfgang

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Paul A. Rubin]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

This is what happended:

Lyx was complaining about not enough space in ///tmp/lyx_tmpdir
since ///tmp is in my case a separate partition (was probably a bad idea!) and 
has only 140MB I changed in Lyx the path to /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp.


Did you create this directory, and did you give it access permissions 
consistent with whatever user id LyX runs under?


 I furthermore removed the content of /lyx_tmpdir in  ///tmp 


I started Lyx and got the message
LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'


Since I'm not using Linux, I can't be sure, but it seems to me that if 
LyX recognized the change you made to the temp path, the error message 
should not refer to /tmp/... (My only hesitation is the possibility that 
 whoever programmed the error message hard-coded /tmp in the message, 
but I'm almost positive that's not the case.)


Again, I'm guessing, but maybe LyX tried to write to 
/home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp, couldn't find it (or lacked permission), 
reverted to /tmp and then couldn't write there.  I don't think LyX will 
create ./Lyx-tmp under /home/wolfgang; you'll need to do that yourself 
(and set the permissions if necessary).


/Paul

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[charlie]

On Saturday 23 June 2007 18:11, Wolfgang Engelmann shared this with us all:
--} Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2007 20:56 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
--} Thanks, Paul,
--}
--}  No.  Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be
 under --}  .lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure). 
 Open it --}  with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file
 section.  There --}  should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it,
 save the file, and --}  try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the
 original /tmp.  This --}  works with 1.5.0rc1, but I'm pretty sure it's
 the same on 1.4.4. --}
--} that worked;
--} however, the reason I changed to another path (/home/wolfgang/lyx-tmp)
 was --} that my /tmp in root is a separate partition and has not enough
 space. So --} this helps for the time being, but is not a permanent
 solution. But I am sure --} that it should work under the Lyx settings.
 Does my directory
--} in  /home/wolfgang/ has to be /tmp, because Lyx is looking for that
 kind? --}
--} This is my entrance in the /-lyx/preferences file:
--} #
--} # FILE SECTION ##
--} #
--}
--} \tempdir_path /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
--}
--} it was already there (since I had changed it before troubles started).
--}
--} So I got Lyx to work again due to your help, but need another hint
--} 
--}  I'm a bit fuzzy on what you did (and why it went wrong).  The
--}  cannot-create message suggests either a nonexistent path or a
--}  permissions problem.
--} The /tmp directory in my Debian Linux OS is under root, but permits
 reading --} and writing in the containing subdirs
--}
--}  Again, I'm not a Linux user (although I have
--}  fooled around with it in the past), but doesn't /tmp/lyx_tmpdir...
 imply --}  that tmp is mounted at the root level?  (Apologies if I flubbed
 the --}  terminology there.)  If I were using a local temp directory, I
 would --}  have assumed it would look like /home/tmp or /user/me?/tmp.
 --} /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
--} need
--} /home/wolfgang/tmp/ ??
--}
--} Any Linux user there who knows?
--}
--}
--}
--} Wolfgang

I have never seen the problems you describe above, in any version of Lyx.

I am using Lyx 1.4.4 in Debian Lenny on this lappy at the moment, and that 
version in Debian Etch on another laptop.

After installing Lyx, since I first began using it, on each occasion, create 
a /home/charlie/Lyx directory. Within this directory is one for backup, one 
for templates one for Lyx about itself, a temp file, usually 
called /home/charlie/Lyx/sometimes or something else. Then a directory for 
each topic or purpose I use Lyx for, and this is all placed in the Paths 
dialogue from with Lyx.

From this point on, I just work with Lyx.

Hope that helps you.
Charlie

-- 
Registered Linux User:- 329524
+++
If you know, say you know. If you don't know, say you don't 
know. -- Confucius

***
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Re: LyX and temporary directory

[charlie]

On Sunday 24 June 2007 00:30, Wolfgang Engelmann shared this with us all:

snip

--} This is what happended:
--}
--} Lyx was complaining about not enough space in ///tmp/lyx_tmpdir
--} since ///tmp is in my case a separate partition (was probably a bad
 idea!) and --} has only 140MB I changed in Lyx the path to
 /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp. --}
--}  I furthermore removed the content of /lyx_tmpdir in  ///tmp
--}
--} I started Lyx and got the message
--} LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'
--}
--} I followed the advice of Paul Rubin:
--}   Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be under
--} .lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure).  Open it
--} with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file section.  There
--} should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it, save the file, and
--} try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the original /tmp.  
--}
--} Lyx created '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir... ' again and I could use Lyx again.
--}
--} However, the problem stays with me, that the space of the  ///tmp file
 is --} quickly exhausted (with just one run of a Lyx file -it contains lots
 of --} figures): 133 out of 140 MB are occupied.
--}
--} I don´t know whether I can reduce the size of another partition and
 increase --} the /tmp-partition. As you have noticed, I am quite
 unexperienced with --} administrative work and fear things end up in chaos.
 I would therefore prefer --} to use the method I tried (redirect path to
 /tmp in my home/wolfgang), if I --} can avoid the problem I described
 before
--} 
--}    What version are using? (1.4.x I assume).
--}
--} 1.4.3
--}
--}  Wolfgang

In a terminal window:-

You did as wolfgang:-$ mkdir Lyx-tmp

Then you did:- 

wolfgang:-$ chmod 744 -v Lyx-tmp

Then you started Lyx and and changed the path to the /tmp directory

Then you hit reconfigure which told you it had been reconfigured and you 
have to shutdown and restart Lyx - You did that and it still didn't work?

Charlie

-- 
Registered Linux User:- 329524
+++
People with opinions just go around bothering one another. -- THE 
BUDDHA

***
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Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2007 23:03 schrieb charlie:
 On Saturday 23 June 2007 02:06, Wolfgang Engelmann shared this with us all:
 --} I have this problem:
 --} my /tmp in root is a separate partition and not very large. I have
  therefore --} changed the path in LyX (toolssettings) to a /tmp in my
  home --} and emptied the  /tmp in root. That was apparently a bad idea,
  since now by --} trying to start lyx I get:
 --}
 --} LyX could not create the temporary directory
  '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4' --}
 --} Lyx is not starting anymore. Do I have to install LyX anew?
 --}
 --} Wolfgang

I had done this already (new path to /home/wolfgang/lyx-tmp/) and afterward 
troubles started. Mind you, I can't start Lyx anymore ---

 In Tools/Preferences/Paths select your temporary directory. It can be
 changed to a /home/user directory easily there.

Thanks, anyway, Charlie

Wolfgang

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[José Matos]

On Saturday 23 June 2007 09:11:24 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
 need
 /home/wolfgang/tmp/ ??

 Any Linux user there who knows?

 I never saw the problems you are describing. :-)

 If I understand you correctly you said that as soon as you changed the 
temporary directory to your home area lyx started complaining that it could 
not create temporary files in /tmp?

  What version are using? (1.4.x I assume).

 Wolfgang

-- 
José Abílio

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2007 20:56 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
Thanks, Paul,

 No.  Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be under
 .lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure).  Open it
 with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file section.  There
 should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it, save the file, and
 try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the original /tmp.  This
 works with 1.5.0rc1, but I'm pretty sure it's the same on 1.4.4.

that worked;
however, the reason I changed to another path (/home/wolfgang/lyx-tmp) was 
that my /tmp in root is a separate partition and has not enough space. So 
this helps for the time being, but is not a permanent solution. But I am sure 
that it should work under the Lyx settings. Does my directory 
in  /home/wolfgang/ has to be /tmp, because Lyx is looking for that kind? 

This is my entrance in the /-lyx/preferences file:
#
# FILE SECTION ##
#

\tempdir_path /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/

it was already there (since I had changed it before troubles started). 

So I got Lyx to work again due to your help, but need another hint 

 I'm a bit fuzzy on what you did (and why it went wrong).  The
 cannot-create message suggests either a nonexistent path or a
 permissions problem. 
The /tmp directory in my Debian Linux OS is under root, but permits reading 
and writing in the containing subdirs

 Again, I'm not a Linux user (although I have 
 fooled around with it in the past), but doesn't /tmp/lyx_tmpdir... imply
 that tmp is mounted at the root level?  (Apologies if I flubbed the
 terminology there.)  If I were using a local temp directory, I would
 have assumed it would look like /home/tmp or /user/me?/tmp.
/home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
need 
/home/wolfgang/tmp/ ??

Any Linux user there who knows?



Wolfgang

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2007 11:18 schrieb José Matos:
 On Saturday 23 June 2007 09:11:24 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
  need
  /home/wolfgang/tmp/ ??
 
  Any Linux user there who knows?

  I never saw the problems you are describing. :-)

  If I understand you correctly you said that as soon as you changed the
 temporary directory to your home area lyx started complaining that it could
 not create temporary files in /tmp?

This is what happended:

Lyx was complaining about not enough space in ///tmp/lyx_tmpdir
since ///tmp is in my case a separate partition (was probably a bad idea!) and 
has only 140MB I changed in Lyx the path to /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp.

 I furthermore removed the content of /lyx_tmpdir in  ///tmp 

I started Lyx and got the message
LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'

I followed the advice of Paul Rubin:
  Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be under 
.lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure).  Open it 
with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file section.  There 
should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it, save the file, and 
try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the original /tmp.  

Lyx created '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir... ' again and I could use Lyx again.

However, the problem stays with me, that the space of the  ///tmp file is 
quickly exhausted (with just one run of a Lyx file -it contains lots of 
figures): 133 out of 140 MB are occupied. 

I don´t know whether I can reduce the size of another partition and increase 
the /tmp-partition. As you have noticed, I am quite unexperienced with 
administrative work and fear things end up in chaos. I would therefore prefer 
to use the method I tried (redirect path to /tmp in my home/wolfgang), if I 
can avoid the problem I described before

   What version are using? (1.4.x I assume).

1.4.3

 Wolfgang

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Paul A. Rubin]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

This is what happended:

Lyx was complaining about not enough space in ///tmp/lyx_tmpdir
since ///tmp is in my case a separate partition (was probably a bad idea!) and 
has only 140MB I changed in Lyx the path to /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp.


Did you create this directory, and did you give it access permissions 
consistent with whatever user id LyX runs under?


 I furthermore removed the content of /lyx_tmpdir in  ///tmp 


I started Lyx and got the message
LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'


Since I'm not using Linux, I can't be sure, but it seems to me that if 
LyX recognized the change you made to the temp path, the error message 
should not refer to /tmp/... (My only hesitation is the possibility that 
 whoever programmed the error message hard-coded /tmp in the message, 
but I'm almost positive that's not the case.)


Again, I'm guessing, but maybe LyX tried to write to 
/home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp, couldn't find it (or lacked permission), 
reverted to /tmp and then couldn't write there.  I don't think LyX will 
create ./Lyx-tmp under /home/wolfgang; you'll need to do that yourself 
(and set the permissions if necessary).


/Paul

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[charlie]

On Saturday 23 June 2007 18:11, Wolfgang Engelmann shared this with us all:
--} Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2007 20:56 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
--} Thanks, Paul,
--}
--}  No.  Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be
 under --}  .lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure). 
 Open it --}  with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file
 section.  There --}  should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it,
 save the file, and --}  try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the
 original /tmp.  This --}  works with 1.5.0rc1, but I'm pretty sure it's
 the same on 1.4.4. --}
--} that worked;
--} however, the reason I changed to another path (/home/wolfgang/lyx-tmp)
 was --} that my /tmp in root is a separate partition and has not enough
 space. So --} this helps for the time being, but is not a permanent
 solution. But I am sure --} that it should work under the Lyx settings.
 Does my directory
--} in  /home/wolfgang/ has to be /tmp, because Lyx is looking for that
 kind? --}
--} This is my entrance in the /-lyx/preferences file:
--} #
--} # FILE SECTION ##
--} #
--}
--} \tempdir_path /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
--}
--} it was already there (since I had changed it before troubles started).
--}
--} So I got Lyx to work again due to your help, but need another hint
--} 
--}  I'm a bit fuzzy on what you did (and why it went wrong).  The
--}  cannot-create message suggests either a nonexistent path or a
--}  permissions problem.
--} The /tmp directory in my Debian Linux OS is under root, but permits
 reading --} and writing in the containing subdirs
--}
--}  Again, I'm not a Linux user (although I have
--}  fooled around with it in the past), but doesn't /tmp/lyx_tmpdir...
 imply --}  that tmp is mounted at the root level?  (Apologies if I flubbed
 the --}  terminology there.)  If I were using a local temp directory, I
 would --}  have assumed it would look like /home/tmp or /user/me?/tmp.
 --} /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
--} need
--} /home/wolfgang/tmp/ ??
--}
--} Any Linux user there who knows?
--}
--}
--}
--} Wolfgang

I have never seen the problems you describe above, in any version of Lyx.

I am using Lyx 1.4.4 in Debian Lenny on this lappy at the moment, and that 
version in Debian Etch on another laptop.

After installing Lyx, since I first began using it, on each occasion, create 
a /home/charlie/Lyx directory. Within this directory is one for backup, one 
for templates one for Lyx about itself, a temp file, usually 
called /home/charlie/Lyx/sometimes or something else. Then a directory for 
each topic or purpose I use Lyx for, and this is all placed in the Paths 
dialogue from with Lyx.

From this point on, I just work with Lyx.

Hope that helps you.
Charlie

-- 
Registered Linux User:- 329524
+++
If you know, say you know. If you don't know, say you don't 
know. -- Confucius

***
Debian
___

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[charlie]

On Sunday 24 June 2007 00:30, Wolfgang Engelmann shared this with us all:

snip

--} This is what happended:
--}
--} Lyx was complaining about not enough space in ///tmp/lyx_tmpdir
--} since ///tmp is in my case a separate partition (was probably a bad
 idea!) and --} has only 140MB I changed in Lyx the path to
 /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp. --}
--}  I furthermore removed the content of /lyx_tmpdir in  ///tmp
--}
--} I started Lyx and got the message
--} LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'
--}
--} I followed the advice of Paul Rubin:
--}   Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be under
--} .lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure).  Open it
--} with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file section.  There
--} should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it, save the file, and
--} try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the original /tmp.  
--}
--} Lyx created '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir... ' again and I could use Lyx again.
--}
--} However, the problem stays with me, that the space of the  ///tmp file
 is --} quickly exhausted (with just one run of a Lyx file -it contains lots
 of --} figures): 133 out of 140 MB are occupied.
--}
--} I don´t know whether I can reduce the size of another partition and
 increase --} the /tmp-partition. As you have noticed, I am quite
 unexperienced with --} administrative work and fear things end up in chaos.
 I would therefore prefer --} to use the method I tried (redirect path to
 /tmp in my home/wolfgang), if I --} can avoid the problem I described
 before
--} 
--}    What version are using? (1.4.x I assume).
--}
--} 1.4.3
--}
--}  Wolfgang

In a terminal window:-

You did as wolfgang:-$ mkdir Lyx-tmp

Then you did:- 

wolfgang:-$ chmod 744 -v Lyx-tmp

Then you started Lyx and and changed the path to the /tmp directory

Then you hit reconfigure which told you it had been reconfigured and you 
have to shutdown and restart Lyx - You did that and it still didn't work?

Charlie

-- 
Registered Linux User:- 329524
+++
People with opinions just go around bothering one another. -- THE 
BUDDHA

***
Debian
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Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2007 23:03 schrieb charlie:
> On Saturday 23 June 2007 02:06, Wolfgang Engelmann shared this with us all:
> >--} I have this problem:
> >--} my /tmp in root is a separate partition and not very large. I have
> > therefore --} changed the path in LyX (tools>settings) to a /tmp in my
> > home --} and emptied the  /tmp in root. That was apparently a bad idea,
> > since now by --} trying to start lyx I get:
> >--}
> >--} LyX could not create the temporary directory
> > '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4' --}
> >--} Lyx is not starting anymore. Do I have to install LyX anew?
> >--}
> >--} Wolfgang
>
I had done this already (new path to /home/wolfgang/lyx-tmp/) and afterward 
troubles started. Mind you, I can't start Lyx anymore --->

> In Tools/Preferences/Paths select your temporary directory. It can be
> changed to a /home/user directory easily there.

Thanks, anyway, Charlie

Wolfgang

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[José Matos]

On Saturday 23 June 2007 09:11:24 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
> need
> /home/wolfgang/tmp/ ??
>
> Any Linux user there who knows?

 I never saw the problems you are describing. :-)

 If I understand you correctly you said that as soon as you changed the 
temporary directory to your home area lyx started complaining that it could 
not create temporary files in /tmp?

  What version are using? (1.4.x I assume).

> Wolfgang

-- 
José Abílio

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2007 20:56 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
Thanks, Paul,

> No.  Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be under
> .lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure).  Open it
> with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file section.  There
> should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it, save the file, and
> try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the original /tmp.  This
> works with 1.5.0rc1, but I'm pretty sure it's the same on 1.4.4.

that worked;
however, the reason I changed to another path (/home/wolfgang/lyx-tmp) was 
that my /tmp in root is a separate partition and has not enough space. So 
this helps for the time being, but is not a permanent solution. But I am sure 
that it should work under the Lyx settings. Does my directory 
in  /home/wolfgang/ has to be /tmp, because Lyx is looking for that kind? 

This is my entrance in the /-lyx/preferences file:
#
# FILE SECTION ##
#

\tempdir_path "/home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/"

it was already there (since I had changed it before troubles started). 

So I got Lyx to work again due to your help, but need another hint 
>
> I'm a bit fuzzy on what you did (and why it went wrong).  The
> cannot-create message suggests either a nonexistent path or a
> permissions problem. 
The /tmp directory in my Debian Linux OS is under root, but permits reading 
and writing in the containing subdirs

> Again, I'm not a Linux user (although I have 
> fooled around with it in the past), but doesn't /tmp/lyx_tmpdir... imply
> that tmp is mounted at the root level?  (Apologies if I flubbed the
> terminology there.)  If I were using a local temp directory, I would
> have assumed it would look like /home/tmp or /user//tmp.
/home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
need 
/home/wolfgang/tmp/ ??

Any Linux user there who knows?



Wolfgang

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2007 11:18 schrieb José Matos:
> On Saturday 23 June 2007 09:11:24 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
> > need
> > /home/wolfgang/tmp/ ??
> >
> > Any Linux user there who knows?
>
>  I never saw the problems you are describing. :-)
>
>  If I understand you correctly you said that as soon as you changed the
> temporary directory to your home area lyx started complaining that it could
> not create temporary files in /tmp?

This is what happended:

Lyx was complaining about not enough space in ///tmp/lyx_tmpdir
since ///tmp is in my case a separate partition (was probably a bad idea!) and 
has only 140MB I changed in Lyx the path to /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp.

 I furthermore removed the content of /lyx_tmpdir in  ///tmp 

I started Lyx and got the message
LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'

I followed the advice of Paul Rubin:
  Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be under 
.lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure).  Open it 
with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file section.  There 
should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it, save the file, and 
try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the original /tmp.  

Lyx created '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir... ' again and I could use Lyx again.

However, the problem stays with me, that the space of the  ///tmp file is 
quickly exhausted (with just one run of a Lyx file -it contains lots of 
figures): 133 out of 140 MB are occupied. 

I don´t know whether I can reduce the size of another partition and increase 
the /tmp-partition. As you have noticed, I am quite unexperienced with 
administrative work and fear things end up in chaos. I would therefore prefer 
to use the method I tried (redirect path to /tmp in my home/wolfgang), if I 
can avoid the problem I described before
>
>   What version are using? (1.4.x I assume).

1.4.3

 Wolfgang

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Paul A. Rubin]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

This is what happended:

Lyx was complaining about not enough space in ///tmp/lyx_tmpdir
since ///tmp is in my case a separate partition (was probably a bad idea!) and 
has only 140MB I changed in Lyx the path to /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp.


Did you create this directory, and did you give it access permissions 
consistent with whatever user id LyX runs under?


 I furthermore removed the content of /lyx_tmpdir in  ///tmp 


I started Lyx and got the message
LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'


Since I'm not using Linux, I can't be sure, but it seems to me that if 
LyX recognized the change you made to the temp path, the error message 
should not refer to /tmp/... (My only hesitation is the possibility that 
 whoever programmed the error message hard-coded /tmp in the message, 
but I'm almost positive that's not the case.)


Again, I'm guessing, but maybe LyX tried to write to 
/home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp, couldn't find it (or lacked permission), 
reverted to /tmp and then couldn't write there.  I don't think LyX will 
create ./Lyx-tmp under /home/wolfgang; you'll need to do that yourself 
(and set the permissions if necessary).


/Paul

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[charlie]

On Saturday 23 June 2007 18:11, Wolfgang Engelmann shared this with us all:
>--} Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2007 20:56 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
>--} Thanks, Paul,
>--}
>--} > No.  Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be
> under --} > .lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure). 
> Open it --} > with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file
> section.  There --} > should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it,
> save the file, and --} > try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the
> original /tmp.  This --} > works with 1.5.0rc1, but I'm pretty sure it's
> the same on 1.4.4. --}
>--} that worked;
>--} however, the reason I changed to another path (/home/wolfgang/lyx-tmp)
> was --} that my /tmp in root is a separate partition and has not enough
> space. So --} this helps for the time being, but is not a permanent
> solution. But I am sure --} that it should work under the Lyx settings.
> Does my directory
>--} in  /home/wolfgang/ has to be /tmp, because Lyx is looking for that
> kind? --}
>--} This is my entrance in the /-lyx/preferences file:
>--} #
>--} # FILE SECTION ##
>--} #
>--}
>--} \tempdir_path "/home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/"
>--}
>--} it was already there (since I had changed it before troubles started).
>--}
>--} So I got Lyx to work again due to your help, but need another hint
>--} >
>--} > I'm a bit fuzzy on what you did (and why it went wrong).  The
>--} > cannot-create message suggests either a nonexistent path or a
>--} > permissions problem.
>--} The /tmp directory in my Debian Linux OS is under root, but permits
> reading --} and writing in the containing subdirs
>--}
>--} > Again, I'm not a Linux user (although I have
>--} > fooled around with it in the past), but doesn't /tmp/lyx_tmpdir...
> imply --} > that tmp is mounted at the root level?  (Apologies if I flubbed
> the --} > terminology there.)  If I were using a local temp directory, I
> would --} > have assumed it would look like /home/tmp or /user//tmp.
> --} /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp/
>--} need
>--} /home/wolfgang/tmp/ ??
>--}
>--} Any Linux user there who knows?
>--}
>--}
>--}
>--} Wolfgang

I have never seen the problems you describe above, in any version of Lyx.

I am using Lyx 1.4.4 in Debian Lenny on this lappy at the moment, and that 
version in Debian Etch on another laptop.

After installing Lyx, since I first began using it, on each occasion, create 
a /home/charlie/Lyx directory. Within this directory is one for backup, one 
for templates one for Lyx about itself, a temp file, usually 
called /home/charlie/Lyx/sometimes or something else. Then a directory for 
each topic or purpose I use Lyx for, and this is all placed in the Paths 
dialogue from with Lyx.

From this point on, I just work with Lyx.

Hope that helps you.
Charlie

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Re: LyX and temporary directory

[charlie]

On Sunday 24 June 2007 00:30, Wolfgang Engelmann shared this with us all:



>--} This is what happended:
>--}
>--} Lyx was complaining about not enough space in ///tmp/lyx_tmpdir
>--} since ///tmp is in my case a separate partition (was probably a bad
> idea!) and --} has only 140MB I changed in Lyx the path to
> /home/wolfgang/Lyx-tmp. --}
>--}  I furthermore removed the content of /lyx_tmpdir in  ///tmp
>--}
>--} I started Lyx and got the message
>--} LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'
>--}
>--} I followed the advice of Paul Rubin:
>--}   Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be under
>--} .lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure).  Open it
>--} with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file section.  There
>--} should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it, save the file, and
>--} try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the original /tmp.  
>--}
>--} Lyx created '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir... ' again and I could use Lyx again.
>--}
>--} However, the problem stays with me, that the space of the  ///tmp file
> is --} quickly exhausted (with just one run of a Lyx file -it contains lots
> of --} figures): 133 out of 140 MB are occupied.
>--}
>--} I don´t know whether I can reduce the size of another partition and
> increase --} the /tmp-partition. As you have noticed, I am quite
> unexperienced with --} administrative work and fear things end up in chaos.
> I would therefore prefer --} to use the method I tried (redirect path to
> /tmp in my home/wolfgang), if I --} can avoid the problem I described
> before
>--} >
>--} >   What version are using? (1.4.x I assume).
>--}
>--} 1.4.3
>--}
>--}  Wolfgang

In a terminal window:-

You did as wolfgang:-$ mkdir Lyx-tmp

Then you did:- 

wolfgang:-$ chmod 744 -v Lyx-tmp

Then you started Lyx and and changed the path to the /tmp directory

Then you hit  which told you it had been reconfigured and you 
have to shutdown and restart Lyx - You did that and it still didn't work?

Charlie

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Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Paul A. Rubin]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

I have this problem:
my /tmp in root is a separate partition and not very large. I have therefore 
changed the path in LyX (toolssettings) to a /tmp in my home 
and emptied the  /tmp in root. That was apparently a bad idea, since now by 
trying to start lyx I get:


LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'

Lyx is not starting anymore. Do I have to install LyX anew?



No.  Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be under 
.lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure).  Open it 
with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file section.  There 
should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it, save the file, and 
try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the original /tmp.  This 
works with 1.5.0rc1, but I'm pretty sure it's the same on 1.4.4.


I'm a bit fuzzy on what you did (and why it went wrong).  The 
cannot-create message suggests either a nonexistent path or a 
permissions problem.  Again, I'm not a Linux user (although I have 
fooled around with it in the past), but doesn't /tmp/lyx_tmpdir... imply 
that tmp is mounted at the root level?  (Apologies if I flubbed the 
terminology there.)  If I were using a local temp directory, I would 
have assumed it would look like /home/tmp or /user/me?/tmp.


/Paul

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[charlie]

On Saturday 23 June 2007 02:06, Wolfgang Engelmann shared this with us all:
--} I have this problem:
--} my /tmp in root is a separate partition and not very large. I have
 therefore --} changed the path in LyX (toolssettings) to a /tmp in my home
--} and emptied the  /tmp in root. That was apparently a bad idea, since now
 by --} trying to start lyx I get:
--}
--} LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'
--}
--} Lyx is not starting anymore. Do I have to install LyX anew?
--}
--} Wolfgang

In Tools/Preferences/Paths select your temporary directory. It can be changed 
to a /home/user directory easily there.

Charlie

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decision. Then where is the error? --- anon

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Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Paul A. Rubin]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

I have this problem:
my /tmp in root is a separate partition and not very large. I have therefore 
changed the path in LyX (toolssettings) to a /tmp in my home 
and emptied the  /tmp in root. That was apparently a bad idea, since now by 
trying to start lyx I get:


LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'

Lyx is not starting anymore. Do I have to install LyX anew?



No.  Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be under 
.lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure).  Open it 
with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file section.  There 
should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it, save the file, and 
try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the original /tmp.  This 
works with 1.5.0rc1, but I'm pretty sure it's the same on 1.4.4.


I'm a bit fuzzy on what you did (and why it went wrong).  The 
cannot-create message suggests either a nonexistent path or a 
permissions problem.  Again, I'm not a Linux user (although I have 
fooled around with it in the past), but doesn't /tmp/lyx_tmpdir... imply 
that tmp is mounted at the root level?  (Apologies if I flubbed the 
terminology there.)  If I were using a local temp directory, I would 
have assumed it would look like /home/tmp or /user/me?/tmp.


/Paul

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[charlie]

On Saturday 23 June 2007 02:06, Wolfgang Engelmann shared this with us all:
--} I have this problem:
--} my /tmp in root is a separate partition and not very large. I have
 therefore --} changed the path in LyX (toolssettings) to a /tmp in my home
--} and emptied the  /tmp in root. That was apparently a bad idea, since now
 by --} trying to start lyx I get:
--}
--} LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'
--}
--} Lyx is not starting anymore. Do I have to install LyX anew?
--}
--} Wolfgang

In Tools/Preferences/Paths select your temporary directory. It can be changed 
to a /home/user directory easily there.

Charlie

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Registered Linux User:- 329524
+++
If you have made what you perceive as a mistake. Know that you have made a 
decision. Then where is the error? --- anon

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Re: LyX and temporary directory

[Paul A. Rubin]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

I have this problem:
my /tmp in root is a separate partition and not very large. I have therefore 
changed the path in LyX (tools>settings) to a /tmp in my home 
and emptied the  /tmp in root. That was apparently a bad idea, since now by 
trying to start lyx I get:


LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'

Lyx is not starting anymore. Do I have to install LyX anew?



No.  Find the 'preferences' file in your home directory (might be under 
.lyx on a Linux system -- I'm on Windoze, so I'm not sure).  Open it 
with an editor (presumably not LyX) and find the file section.  There 
should be an entry labeled \tempdir_path.  Delete it, save the file, and 
try to start LyX.  This should revert you to the original /tmp.  This 
works with 1.5.0rc1, but I'm pretty sure it's the same on 1.4.4.


I'm a bit fuzzy on what you did (and why it went wrong).  The 
cannot-create message suggests either a nonexistent path or a 
permissions problem.  Again, I'm not a Linux user (although I have 
fooled around with it in the past), but doesn't /tmp/lyx_tmpdir... imply 
that tmp is mounted at the root level?  (Apologies if I flubbed the 
terminology there.)  If I were using a local temp directory, I would 
have assumed it would look like /home/tmp or /user//tmp.


/Paul

Re: LyX and temporary directory

[charlie]

On Saturday 23 June 2007 02:06, Wolfgang Engelmann shared this with us all:
>--} I have this problem:
>--} my /tmp in root is a separate partition and not very large. I have
> therefore --} changed the path in LyX (tools>settings) to a /tmp in my home
>--} and emptied the  /tmp in root. That was apparently a bad idea, since now
> by --} trying to start lyx I get:
>--}
>--} LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir63043uH0e4'
>--}
>--} Lyx is not starting anymore. Do I have to install LyX anew?
>--}
>--} Wolfgang

In Tools/Preferences/Paths select your temporary directory. It can be changed 
to a /home/user directory easily there.

Charlie

-- 
Registered Linux User:- 329524
+++
If you have made what you perceive as a mistake. Know that you have made a 
decision. Then where is the error? --- anon

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