Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck
Hi everybody,

I already posted this question last week, but got no answer until now. So I 
try it again: I've installed LyX 1.1.6-fix2 with rpm on SuSE 7.1 (which 
worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text with 
the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also Ctrl-arrow 
gives no result. Just nothing happens. I've tried it with cua-binding and 
de_menues and tried also to replace "lyx.mo" with the fixed one that Peter 
Suetterlin posted here on May 9th, but still no change. If I start lyx with 
-dbg 2 I get always the message "Empty argument!".

Has anybody any idea?

Thanks in advance

Gerhard Schuck

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Gerhard Schuck wrote:

 Has anybody any idea?

Not really, but

 worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text with 
 the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also Ctrl-arrow 

Does shift+arrows work with other programs, such as nedit?

Maybe you could do something with xmodmap, read the man page. You can test
your keyboard with xev.

You could try to compile LyX from source. It shouldn't be difficult.
Or try installing different version of Xforms.




Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 Tuukka == Tuukka Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Tuukka On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Gerhard Schuck wrote:
 Has anybody any idea?

Tuukka Not really, but

 worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark
 text with the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse.
 Also Ctrl-arrow

Tuukka Does shift+arrows work with other programs, such as nedit?

You should also check whether you have a correct binding file in set
in preference.

JMarc



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck


 You should also check whether you have a correct binding file in set
 in preference.

After installing fix-2 I found cua.bind in preference, which was surprising 
for me because I always had used the german bindings before, which were 
selected by default (as far as I remember). So I changed to 
/usr/share/lyx/bind/de_menus.bind, which should be correct. Anyway the 
marking problem comes with both bindings.

Are there more things I can check, before I have to start compiling or 
fiddling with xmodmap?

Gerhard Schuck

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck

  worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text
  with the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also
  Ctrl-arrow

 Does shift+arrows work with other programs, such as nedit?

It works in KDE programms and in Netscape Messenger. Ctrl-arrows works also 
in xedit. I think it's a problem of my LyX configuration.


 Maybe you could do something with xmodmap, read the man page. You can test
 your keyboard with xev.

xev shows keysym Shift_L if  I press left Shift and Right if  I press 
right arrow. So everything seems ok. Before I start fighting with xmodmap, I 
will try to find the reason of the problem, which can only be one of the two 
possibilities: 1. that I messed up my system unconsciously, 2. something has 
changed in 1.1.6-fix2 compared to the previous versions of LyX.


 You could try to compile LyX from source. It shouldn't be difficult.
 Or try installing different version of Xforms.

I deinstalled the SuSE xforms and installed xforms 88.3 from the LyX download 
page with no effect.
Well compiling from the source is not the first thing I want do try.  I'm a 
normal user without technical background and usually have no luck with 
compiling from sources. But I will try, if I find no better way.

Thanks anyway

Gerhard Schuck

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Gerhard Schuck wrote:

 Well compiling from the source is not the first thing I want do try.  I'm a 
 normal user without technical background and usually have no luck with 

All GNU programs (well, autoconf) are very easy to install from source. It
is just unpacking the distribution package with tar xvfz file.tar.gz,
going in to the extracted program directory, and typing:
./configure
make
make install
If everything is OK, you are ready to go after that. If this doesn't work,
it is either not a autoconf package (which is bad thing for developers to
do nowadays), you are missing some required packages, or either the
package you are trying to install or your system is misconfigured/broken
and you can complain either vendor.

(Unfortunately many Linux distributions and packages are broken in a way
or another)

It seems that in distributions the required header files are in some
devel packages which I think it is a very bad thing. If Joe User sees a
package named devel he won't install since he thinks it is only for
developers. THIS IS NOT THE CASE! Everybody should have gcc AND all header
files required for compiling installed by default, since source
distributions are the standard in Unix/Linux world.

Should mpg123 be installed only for musician computer users?




Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour

Gerhard Schuck wrote:
 
  You should also check whether you have a correct binding file in set
  in preference.
 
 After installing fix-2 I found cua.bind in preference, which was surprising
 for me because I always had used the german bindings before, which were
 selected by default (as far as I remember). So I changed to
 /usr/share/lyx/bind/de_menus.bind, which should be correct. Anyway the
 marking problem comes with both bindings.
 

Maybe that's not the problem, but I think you shouldn't select
de_menus.bind in the lyx preferences, because it's only the menu part
of the bindings. You would better use cua.bind. Lyx should then
include de_menus.bind according to your locale. If it doesn't, copy
the cua.bind (from the /usr/share/lyx/bind/ directory) to your
~/.lyx/bind/, and then edit it to replace, at the end of the file, the
line:

\bind_file menus.bind

by this one:

\bind_file de_menus.bind

Maybe you will need to copy de_menus.bind and math.bind too, but I'm
not sure. I think having your own bind files is a good thing, so you can
add shortcuts for your favorite commands. And don't forget to restart
lyx after you change the binding preferences, or after you edit a bind
file.


Thomas.



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck


 All GNU programs (well, autoconf) are very easy to install from source. It
 is just unpacking the distribution package with tar xvfz file.tar.gz,
 going in to the extracted program directory, and typing:
   ./configure
   make
   make install

I know

 developers. THIS IS NOT THE CASE! Everybody should have gcc AND all header
 files required for compiling installed by default, since source
 distributions are the standard in Unix/Linux world.

I really admire the Slackware guys but unfortunately I'm only a rpm guy. And 
I think for people with limited technical knowledge it's probably easier to 
keep the system clean with rpms.

As a compromise I've just rebuilt the rpms from the src.rpm files, which 
worked fine. But the result was the same. Then I installed the 1.1.6-fix1 
version, and had the same problem. So it's clear that something in my system 
is broken and not the fix-2 version. I think now I will check my backup files 
to find out what has changed in the configuration of my system.

Thank you again

Gerhard Schuck
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck




  worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text
  with the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also
  Ctrl-arrow

 Does shift+arrows work with other programs, such as nedit?

It works in KDE programms and in Netscape Messenger. Ctrl-arrows works also 
in xedit. I think it's a problem of my LyX configuration.


 Maybe you could do something with xmodmap, read the man page. You can test
 your keyboard with xev.

xev shows keysym Shift_L if  I press left Shift and Right if  I press 
right arrow. So everything seems ok. Before I start fighting with xmodmap, I 
will try to find the reason of the problem, which can only be one of the two 
possibilities: 1. that I messed up my system unconsciously, 2. something has 
changed in 1.1.6-fix2 compared to the previous versions of LyX.


 You could try to compile LyX from source. It shouldn't be difficult.
 Or try installing different version of Xforms.

I deinstalled the SuSE xforms and installed xforms 88.3 from the LyX download 
page with no effect.
Well compiling from the source is not the first thing I want do try.  I'm a 
normal user without technical background and usually have no luck with 
compiling from sources. But I will try, if I find no better way.

Thanks anyway

Gerhard Schuck

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 Gerhard == Gerhard Schuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You should also check whether you have a correct binding file in
 set in preference.
 
Gerhard After installing fix-2 I found cua.bind in preference, which
Gerhard was surprising for me because I always had used the german
Gerhard bindings before, which were selected by default (as far as I
Gerhard remember). So I changed to /usr/share/lyx/bind/de_menus.bind,
Gerhard which should be correct. Anyway the marking problem comes
Gerhard with both bindings.

If you set the binding to cua and restart LyX, it should work.

JMarc



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 05:06:26PM +0900, Gerhard Schuck wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 I already posted this question last week, but got no answer until now. So I 
 try it again: I've installed LyX 1.1.6-fix2 with rpm on SuSE 7.1 (which 
 worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text with 
 the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also Ctrl-arrow 
 gives no result. Just nothing happens. I've tried it with cua-binding and 
 de_menues and tried also to replace lyx.mo with the fixed one that Peter 
 Suetterlin posted here on May 9th, but still no change. If I start lyx with 
 -dbg 2 I get always the message Empty argument!.

Do other keyboard shortcut work (e.g. ctrl+k) ?

To help you, I need to see the output of running lyx -dbg 6 and pressing
Shift+right



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck

 Maybe that's not the problem, but I think you shouldn't select
 de_menus.bind in the lyx preferences, because it's only the menu part
 of the bindings. You would better use cua.bind. Lyx should then
 include de_menus.bind according to your locale. If it doesn't, copy
 the cua.bind (from the /usr/share/lyx/bind/ directory) to your
 ~/.lyx/bind/, and then edit it to replace, at the end of the file, the
 line:

 \bind_file menus.bind

 by this one:

 \bind_file de_menus.bind

 Maybe you will need to copy de_menus.bind and math.bind too, but I'm
 not sure. I think having your own bind files is a good thing, so you can
 add shortcuts for your favorite commands. And don't forget to restart
 lyx after you change the binding preferences, or after you edit a bind
 file.


Thank you, that did it! Everything is working fine now.


Thanks to everybody who tried to help me.

Gerhard Schuck



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck
Hi everybody,

I already posted this question last week, but got no answer until now. So I 
try it again: I've installed LyX 1.1.6-fix2 with rpm on SuSE 7.1 (which 
worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text with 
the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also Ctrl-arrow 
gives no result. Just nothing happens. I've tried it with cua-binding and 
de_menues and tried also to replace "lyx.mo" with the fixed one that Peter 
Suetterlin posted here on May 9th, but still no change. If I start lyx with 
-dbg 2 I get always the message "Empty argument!".

Has anybody any idea?

Thanks in advance

Gerhard Schuck

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Gerhard Schuck wrote:

 Has anybody any idea?

Not really, but

 worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text with 
 the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also Ctrl-arrow 

Does shift+arrows work with other programs, such as nedit?

Maybe you could do something with xmodmap, read the man page. You can test
your keyboard with xev.

You could try to compile LyX from source. It shouldn't be difficult.
Or try installing different version of Xforms.




Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 Tuukka == Tuukka Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Tuukka On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Gerhard Schuck wrote:
 Has anybody any idea?

Tuukka Not really, but

 worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark
 text with the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse.
 Also Ctrl-arrow

Tuukka Does shift+arrows work with other programs, such as nedit?

You should also check whether you have a correct binding file in set
in preference.

JMarc



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck


 You should also check whether you have a correct binding file in set
 in preference.

After installing fix-2 I found cua.bind in preference, which was surprising 
for me because I always had used the german bindings before, which were 
selected by default (as far as I remember). So I changed to 
/usr/share/lyx/bind/de_menus.bind, which should be correct. Anyway the 
marking problem comes with both bindings.

Are there more things I can check, before I have to start compiling or 
fiddling with xmodmap?

Gerhard Schuck

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck

  worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text
  with the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also
  Ctrl-arrow

 Does shift+arrows work with other programs, such as nedit?

It works in KDE programms and in Netscape Messenger. Ctrl-arrows works also 
in xedit. I think it's a problem of my LyX configuration.


 Maybe you could do something with xmodmap, read the man page. You can test
 your keyboard with xev.

xev shows keysym Shift_L if  I press left Shift and Right if  I press 
right arrow. So everything seems ok. Before I start fighting with xmodmap, I 
will try to find the reason of the problem, which can only be one of the two 
possibilities: 1. that I messed up my system unconsciously, 2. something has 
changed in 1.1.6-fix2 compared to the previous versions of LyX.


 You could try to compile LyX from source. It shouldn't be difficult.
 Or try installing different version of Xforms.

I deinstalled the SuSE xforms and installed xforms 88.3 from the LyX download 
page with no effect.
Well compiling from the source is not the first thing I want do try.  I'm a 
normal user without technical background and usually have no luck with 
compiling from sources. But I will try, if I find no better way.

Thanks anyway

Gerhard Schuck

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Gerhard Schuck wrote:

 Well compiling from the source is not the first thing I want do try.  I'm a 
 normal user without technical background and usually have no luck with 

All GNU programs (well, autoconf) are very easy to install from source. It
is just unpacking the distribution package with tar xvfz file.tar.gz,
going in to the extracted program directory, and typing:
./configure
make
make install
If everything is OK, you are ready to go after that. If this doesn't work,
it is either not a autoconf package (which is bad thing for developers to
do nowadays), you are missing some required packages, or either the
package you are trying to install or your system is misconfigured/broken
and you can complain either vendor.

(Unfortunately many Linux distributions and packages are broken in a way
or another)

It seems that in distributions the required header files are in some
devel packages which I think it is a very bad thing. If Joe User sees a
package named devel he won't install since he thinks it is only for
developers. THIS IS NOT THE CASE! Everybody should have gcc AND all header
files required for compiling installed by default, since source
distributions are the standard in Unix/Linux world.

Should mpg123 be installed only for musician computer users?




Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour

Gerhard Schuck wrote:
 
  You should also check whether you have a correct binding file in set
  in preference.
 
 After installing fix-2 I found cua.bind in preference, which was surprising
 for me because I always had used the german bindings before, which were
 selected by default (as far as I remember). So I changed to
 /usr/share/lyx/bind/de_menus.bind, which should be correct. Anyway the
 marking problem comes with both bindings.
 

Maybe that's not the problem, but I think you shouldn't select
de_menus.bind in the lyx preferences, because it's only the menu part
of the bindings. You would better use cua.bind. Lyx should then
include de_menus.bind according to your locale. If it doesn't, copy
the cua.bind (from the /usr/share/lyx/bind/ directory) to your
~/.lyx/bind/, and then edit it to replace, at the end of the file, the
line:

\bind_file menus.bind

by this one:

\bind_file de_menus.bind

Maybe you will need to copy de_menus.bind and math.bind too, but I'm
not sure. I think having your own bind files is a good thing, so you can
add shortcuts for your favorite commands. And don't forget to restart
lyx after you change the binding preferences, or after you edit a bind
file.


Thomas.



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck


 All GNU programs (well, autoconf) are very easy to install from source. It
 is just unpacking the distribution package with tar xvfz file.tar.gz,
 going in to the extracted program directory, and typing:
   ./configure
   make
   make install

I know

 developers. THIS IS NOT THE CASE! Everybody should have gcc AND all header
 files required for compiling installed by default, since source
 distributions are the standard in Unix/Linux world.

I really admire the Slackware guys but unfortunately I'm only a rpm guy. And 
I think for people with limited technical knowledge it's probably easier to 
keep the system clean with rpms.

As a compromise I've just rebuilt the rpms from the src.rpm files, which 
worked fine. But the result was the same. Then I installed the 1.1.6-fix1 
version, and had the same problem. So it's clear that something in my system 
is broken and not the fix-2 version. I think now I will check my backup files 
to find out what has changed in the configuration of my system.

Thank you again

Gerhard Schuck
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck




  worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text
  with the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also
  Ctrl-arrow

 Does shift+arrows work with other programs, such as nedit?

It works in KDE programms and in Netscape Messenger. Ctrl-arrows works also 
in xedit. I think it's a problem of my LyX configuration.


 Maybe you could do something with xmodmap, read the man page. You can test
 your keyboard with xev.

xev shows keysym Shift_L if  I press left Shift and Right if  I press 
right arrow. So everything seems ok. Before I start fighting with xmodmap, I 
will try to find the reason of the problem, which can only be one of the two 
possibilities: 1. that I messed up my system unconsciously, 2. something has 
changed in 1.1.6-fix2 compared to the previous versions of LyX.


 You could try to compile LyX from source. It shouldn't be difficult.
 Or try installing different version of Xforms.

I deinstalled the SuSE xforms and installed xforms 88.3 from the LyX download 
page with no effect.
Well compiling from the source is not the first thing I want do try.  I'm a 
normal user without technical background and usually have no luck with 
compiling from sources. But I will try, if I find no better way.

Thanks anyway

Gerhard Schuck

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 Gerhard == Gerhard Schuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You should also check whether you have a correct binding file in
 set in preference.
 
Gerhard After installing fix-2 I found cua.bind in preference, which
Gerhard was surprising for me because I always had used the german
Gerhard bindings before, which were selected by default (as far as I
Gerhard remember). So I changed to /usr/share/lyx/bind/de_menus.bind,
Gerhard which should be correct. Anyway the marking problem comes
Gerhard with both bindings.

If you set the binding to cua and restart LyX, it should work.

JMarc



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 05:06:26PM +0900, Gerhard Schuck wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 I already posted this question last week, but got no answer until now. So I 
 try it again: I've installed LyX 1.1.6-fix2 with rpm on SuSE 7.1 (which 
 worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text with 
 the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also Ctrl-arrow 
 gives no result. Just nothing happens. I've tried it with cua-binding and 
 de_menues and tried also to replace lyx.mo with the fixed one that Peter 
 Suetterlin posted here on May 9th, but still no change. If I start lyx with 
 -dbg 2 I get always the message Empty argument!.

Do other keyboard shortcut work (e.g. ctrl+k) ?

To help you, I need to see the output of running lyx -dbg 6 and pressing
Shift+right



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck

 Maybe that's not the problem, but I think you shouldn't select
 de_menus.bind in the lyx preferences, because it's only the menu part
 of the bindings. You would better use cua.bind. Lyx should then
 include de_menus.bind according to your locale. If it doesn't, copy
 the cua.bind (from the /usr/share/lyx/bind/ directory) to your
 ~/.lyx/bind/, and then edit it to replace, at the end of the file, the
 line:

 \bind_file menus.bind

 by this one:

 \bind_file de_menus.bind

 Maybe you will need to copy de_menus.bind and math.bind too, but I'm
 not sure. I think having your own bind files is a good thing, so you can
 add shortcuts for your favorite commands. And don't forget to restart
 lyx after you change the binding preferences, or after you edit a bind
 file.


Thank you, that did it! Everything is working fine now.


Thanks to everybody who tried to help me.

Gerhard Schuck



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck
Hi everybody,

I already posted this question last week, but got no answer until now. So I 
try it again: I've installed LyX 1.1.6-fix2 with rpm on SuSE 7.1 (which 
worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text with 
the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also Ctrl-arrow 
gives no result. Just nothing happens. I've tried it with cua-binding and 
de_menues and tried also to replace "lyx.mo" with the fixed one that Peter 
Suetterlin posted here on May 9th, but still no change. If I start lyx with 
-dbg 2 I get always the message "Empty argument!".

Has anybody any idea?

Thanks in advance

Gerhard Schuck

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Gerhard Schuck wrote:

> Has anybody any idea?

Not really, but

> worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text with 
> the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also Ctrl-arrow 

Does shift+arrows work with other programs, such as nedit?

Maybe you could do something with xmodmap, read the man page. You can test
your keyboard with xev.

You could try to compile LyX from source. It shouldn't be difficult.
Or try installing different version of Xforms.




Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Tuukka" == Tuukka Toivonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Tuukka> On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Gerhard Schuck wrote:
>> Has anybody any idea?

Tuukka> Not really, but

>> worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark
>> text with the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse.
>> Also Ctrl-arrow

Tuukka> Does shift+arrows work with other programs, such as nedit?

You should also check whether you have a correct binding file in set
in preference.

JMarc



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck


> You should also check whether you have a correct binding file in set
> in preference.
>
After installing fix-2 I found cua.bind in preference, which was surprising 
for me because I always had used the german bindings before, which were 
selected by default (as far as I remember). So I changed to 
/usr/share/lyx/bind/de_menus.bind, which should be correct. Anyway the 
marking problem comes with both bindings.

Are there more things I can check, before I have to start compiling or 
fiddling with xmodmap?

Gerhard Schuck

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck

> > worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text
> > with the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also
> > Ctrl-arrow
>
> Does shift+arrows work with other programs, such as nedit?

It works in KDE programms and in Netscape Messenger. Ctrl-arrows works also 
in xedit. I think it's a problem of my LyX configuration.

>
> Maybe you could do something with xmodmap, read the man page. You can test
> your keyboard with xev.

xev shows keysym "Shift_L" if  I press left Shift and "Right" if  I press 
right arrow. So everything seems ok. Before I start fighting with xmodmap, I 
will try to find the reason of the problem, which can only be one of the two 
possibilities: 1. that I messed up my system unconsciously, 2. something has 
changed in 1.1.6-fix2 compared to the previous versions of LyX.

>
> You could try to compile LyX from source. It shouldn't be difficult.
> Or try installing different version of Xforms.

I deinstalled the SuSE xforms and installed xforms 88.3 from the LyX download 
page with no effect.
Well compiling from the source is not the first thing I want do try.  I'm a 
"normal" user without technical background and usually have no luck with 
compiling from sources. But I will try, if I find no better way.

Thanks anyway

Gerhard Schuck

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Gerhard Schuck wrote:

> Well compiling from the source is not the first thing I want do try.  I'm a 
> "normal" user without technical background and usually have no luck with 

All GNU programs (well, autoconf) are very easy to install from source. It
is just unpacking the distribution package with "tar xvfz file.tar.gz",
going in to the extracted program directory, and typing:
./configure
make
make install
If everything is OK, you are ready to go after that. If this doesn't work,
it is either not a autoconf package (which is bad thing for developers to
do nowadays), you are missing some required packages, or either the
package you are trying to install or your system is misconfigured/broken
and you can complain either vendor.

(Unfortunately many Linux distributions and packages are broken in a way
or another)

It seems that in distributions the required header files are in some
"devel" packages which I think it is a very bad thing. If Joe User sees a
package named "devel" he won't install since he thinks it is only for
developers. THIS IS NOT THE CASE! Everybody should have gcc AND all header
files required for compiling installed by default, since source
distributions are the standard in Unix/Linux world.

Should "mpg123" be installed only for musician computer users?




Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour

Gerhard Schuck wrote:
> 
> > You should also check whether you have a correct binding file in set
> > in preference.
> >
> After installing fix-2 I found cua.bind in preference, which was surprising
> for me because I always had used the german bindings before, which were
> selected by default (as far as I remember). So I changed to
> /usr/share/lyx/bind/de_menus.bind, which should be correct. Anyway the
> marking problem comes with both bindings.
> 

Maybe that's not the problem, but I think you shouldn't select
"de_menus.bind" in the lyx preferences, because it's only the menu part
of the bindings. You would better use "cua.bind". Lyx should then
include "de_menus.bind" according to your locale. If it doesn't, copy
the "cua.bind" (from the /usr/share/lyx/bind/ directory) to your
"~/.lyx/bind/", and then edit it to replace, at the end of the file, the
line:

\bind_file menus.bind

by this one:

\bind_file de_menus.bind

Maybe you will need to copy "de_menus.bind" and "math.bind" too, but I'm
not sure. I think having your own bind files is a good thing, so you can
add shortcuts for your favorite commands. And don't forget to restart
lyx after you change the binding preferences, or after you edit a bind
file.


Thomas.



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck


> All GNU programs (well, autoconf) are very easy to install from source. It
> is just unpacking the distribution package with "tar xvfz file.tar.gz",
> going in to the extracted program directory, and typing:
>   ./configure
>   make
>   make install

I know

> developers. THIS IS NOT THE CASE! Everybody should have gcc AND all header
> files required for compiling installed by default, since source
> distributions are the standard in Unix/Linux world.

I really admire the Slackware guys but unfortunately I'm only a rpm guy. And 
I think for people with limited technical knowledge it's probably easier to 
keep the system clean with rpms.

As a "compromise" I've just rebuilt the rpms from the src.rpm files, which 
worked fine. But the result was the same. Then I installed the 1.1.6-fix1 
version, and had the same problem. So it's clear that something in my system 
is broken and not the fix-2 version. I think now I will check my backup files 
to find out what has changed in the configuration of my system.

Thank you again

Gerhard Schuck
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck




> > worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text
> > with the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also
> > Ctrl-arrow
>
> Does shift+arrows work with other programs, such as nedit?

It works in KDE programms and in Netscape Messenger. Ctrl-arrows works also 
in xedit. I think it's a problem of my LyX configuration.

>
> Maybe you could do something with xmodmap, read the man page. You can test
> your keyboard with xev.

xev shows keysym "Shift_L" if  I press left Shift and "Right" if  I press 
right arrow. So everything seems ok. Before I start fighting with xmodmap, I 
will try to find the reason of the problem, which can only be one of the two 
possibilities: 1. that I messed up my system unconsciously, 2. something has 
changed in 1.1.6-fix2 compared to the previous versions of LyX.

>
> You could try to compile LyX from source. It shouldn't be difficult.
> Or try installing different version of Xforms.

I deinstalled the SuSE xforms and installed xforms 88.3 from the LyX download 
page with no effect.
Well compiling from the source is not the first thing I want do try.  I'm a 
"normal" user without technical background and usually have no luck with 
compiling from sources. But I will try, if I find no better way.

Thanks anyway

Gerhard Schuck

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Gerhard" == Gerhard Schuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> You should also check whether you have a correct binding file in
>> set in preference.
>> 
Gerhard> After installing fix-2 I found cua.bind in preference, which
Gerhard> was surprising for me because I always had used the german
Gerhard> bindings before, which were selected by default (as far as I
Gerhard> remember). So I changed to /usr/share/lyx/bind/de_menus.bind,
Gerhard> which should be correct. Anyway the marking problem comes
Gerhard> with both bindings.

If you set the binding to cua and restart LyX, it should work.

JMarc



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 05:06:26PM +0900, Gerhard Schuck wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I already posted this question last week, but got no answer until now. So I 
> try it again: I've installed LyX 1.1.6-fix2 with rpm on SuSE 7.1 (which 
> worked well with all previous versions of LyX) and now can't mark text with 
> the keyboard (Shift-arrow). It only works with the mouse. Also Ctrl-arrow 
> gives no result. Just nothing happens. I've tried it with cua-binding and 
> de_menues and tried also to replace "lyx.mo" with the fixed one that Peter 
> Suetterlin posted here on May 9th, but still no change. If I start lyx with 
> -dbg 2 I get always the message "Empty argument!".

Do other keyboard shortcut work (e.g. ctrl+k) ?

To help you, I need to see the output of running lyx -dbg 6 and pressing
Shift+right



Re: marking text doesn't work

2001-06-07 Thread Gerhard Schuck

> Maybe that's not the problem, but I think you shouldn't select
> "de_menus.bind" in the lyx preferences, because it's only the menu part
> of the bindings. You would better use "cua.bind". Lyx should then
> include "de_menus.bind" according to your locale. If it doesn't, copy
> the "cua.bind" (from the /usr/share/lyx/bind/ directory) to your
> "~/.lyx/bind/", and then edit it to replace, at the end of the file, the
> line:
>
> \bind_file menus.bind
>
> by this one:
>
> \bind_file de_menus.bind
>
> Maybe you will need to copy "de_menus.bind" and "math.bind" too, but I'm
> not sure. I think having your own bind files is a good thing, so you can
> add shortcuts for your favorite commands. And don't forget to restart
> lyx after you change the binding preferences, or after you edit a bind
> file.


Thank you, that did it! Everything is working fine now.


Thanks to everybody who tried to help me.

Gerhard Schuck



marking text doesn't work

2001-05-31 Thread Gerhard Schuck

Hi,

I've installed lyx 1.1.6-fix2 with rpm on SuSE 7.1 and can't mark text with 
the keyboard. It only works with the mouse. Default language is german.

Any idea?

Gerhard Schuck
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



marking text doesn't work

2001-05-31 Thread Gerhard Schuck

Hi,

I've installed lyx 1.1.6-fix2 with rpm on SuSE 7.1 and can't mark text with 
the keyboard. It only works with the mouse. Default language is german.

Any idea?

Gerhard Schuck
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



marking text doesn't work

2001-05-31 Thread Gerhard Schuck

Hi,

I've installed lyx 1.1.6-fix2 with rpm on SuSE 7.1 and can't mark text with 
the keyboard. It only works with the mouse. Default language is german.

Any idea?

Gerhard Schuck
[EMAIL PROTECTED]