Re: Wiki page of the Day, how users find them once they're ready?
Hi, Could something be done for the old Wiki? If I use Google, it returns links to the old Wiki which would seem to have mostly IT2005/2006 information. Try for example googling ssh site:maemo.org. Could something like for information on ITOS 2007 and newer, see the new wiki at wiki.maemo.org be automatically added to the beginning of each of the old wiki pages? - Eero I just added a note to: http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access#OpenSSH about SSH X forwarding needing the xauth package and finding the correct(?) page could have been easier... ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Maintenance break on all maemo.org servers on the 13th of August
Hi All, Our ISP is transferring the *.maemo.org servers to a new hosting center. Because of this, all servers will be down on the 13th of August, between 07:45 and 17:00 (EEST). Best Regards, -- Marcell ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Maemo autobuilder maintenance break
Hi all, We will have a maintenance break today at 11:00 UTC on the build machine for the autobuilder. Due to recent problems with running out of disk space, the builder will get more storage added. The builder will not be available for a short time. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Wiki page of the Day, how users find them once they're ready?
- Original message - Could something like for information on ITOS 2007 and newer, see the new wiki at wiki.maemo.org be automatically added to the beginning of each of the old wiki pages? This is a good plan, there was some discussion around it a while ago, but I don't know what the result ever was. I just added a note to: http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access#OpenSSH about SSH X forwarding needing the xauth package and finding the correct(?) page could have been easier... Well, um, that really isn't the correct page for information like that at all. A large part of the reason you weren't able to find up-to-date ssh info on the new wiki is because it really isn't there. Somebody should probably put one together. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: libSDL
Hi, ext Chris Dobbs wrote: Thanks Andew, I managed to get sound output working now by setting the env variable SDL_AUDIODRIVER=alsa This works now with one the SDL project test programs. AFAIK it's supposed to be esd as that does mixing for normal user space programs. If you have multiple programs using sound at the same time, you may have strange (reliability) issues with alsa. - Eero ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Battery drain with Diablo 4.2008.23-14
Hello, maemoers! The battery of my N810 lasts a day after reflashing it with Diablo version 4.2008.23-14. Really I don't know why this happens. I've googled and seems this problem is reported in several places. Moreover, after a full recharge, I've flashed it, put the device in offline-mode and removed the MMC card. Without using the device at all, after one day it powers off due to lack of battery. I've repeated the process several times, even uninstalling all programs that comes with flash, and no luck. Any clue about why this happens? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Battery drain with Diablo 4.2008.23-14
Hi, ext Juan A. Suarez Romero wrote: The battery of my N810 lasts a day after reflashing it with Diablo version 4.2008.23-14. What packages you've installed on top of it? Really I don't know why this happens. I've googled and seems this problem is reported in several places. Moreover, after a full recharge, I've flashed it, put the device in offline-mode and removed the MMC card. Without using the device at all, after one day it powers off due to lack of battery. This usually means that some process in the device is waking up at about second interval (which doesn't really show up in top unless it does also something else). When the device is in offline mode with MMC out, if you run top in XTerm, does anything else besides the top, xterm (maemo-launcher) and Xomap show up using *any* CPU? What if you disable all Home applets and close all applications also (if you already haven't)? I've repeated the process several times, even uninstalling all programs that comes with flash, and no luck. Any clue about why this happens? Have you added multimedia (audio, video) files to the internal memory card? - Eero ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Battery drain with Diablo 4.2008.23-14
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:26 +0200, ext Juan A. Suarez Romero wrote: Hello, maemoers! The battery of my N810 lasts a day after reflashing it with Diablo version 4.2008.23-14. Really I don't know why this happens. I've googled and seems this problem is reported in several places. Moreover, after a full recharge, I've flashed it, put the device in offline-mode and removed the MMC card. Without using the device at all, after one day it powers off due to lack of battery. I've repeated the process several times, even uninstalling all programs that comes with flash, and no luck. Any clue about why this happens? Do you have the RD mode enabled? It can drain the battery in a day. BR; Kimmo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Wiki page of the Day, how users find them once they're ready?
Hi, Ryan Abel wrote: Could something like for information on ITOS 2007 and newer, see the new wiki at wiki.maemo.org be automatically added to the beginning of each of the old wiki pages? This is a good plan, there was some discussion around it a while ago, but I don't know what the result ever was. Yes, the intention was to add a header to the top of all wiki pages saying that the wiki had definitively moved, and that the old wiki was locked. The wiki got locked, but the deprecated message was only added to the front page. I just added a note to: http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access#OpenSSH about SSH X forwarding needing the xauth package and finding the correct(?) page could have been easier... Well, um, that really isn't the correct page for information like that at all. A large part of the reason you weren't able to find up-to-date ssh info on the new wiki is because it really isn't there. Somebody should probably put one together. If there is content in the old wiki which should be moved (after all, I exercised some editorial judgement on content that was of a good enough quality to move), then please move edit it. It's better to create useful new pages than to refer to the deprecated wiki. In general, one-line wiki pages aren't very welcome :) Perhaps a page about SSH in general, which talks about X relaying, but also (say) how to set up an ssh tunnel, etc? -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Battery drain with Diablo 4.2008.23-14
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Kimmo Hämäläinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have the RD mode enabled? It can drain the battery in a day. It can? Previous information has been that RD mode on its own (i.e. without enabling the serial console etc.) has no effect on battery life; and solely enables `sudo gainroot'. What does plain RD mode do which affects battery so greatly? Thanks in advance, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Battery drain with Diablo 4.2008.23-14
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 14:09 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: Hi, ext Juan A. Suarez Romero wrote: The battery of my N810 lasts a day after reflashing it with Diablo version 4.2008.23-14. What packages you've installed on top of it? None. As I said, I've reflashed it and nothing more. Even I've tested it by uninstalled applications that come with flash. No luck. When the device is in offline mode with MMC out, if you run top in XTerm, does anything else besides the top, xterm (maemo-launcher) and Xomap show up using *any* CPU? No, nothing. What if you disable all Home applets and close all applications also (if you already haven't)? After reflashing it, I've powered on device, and left in standby-mode. I didn't open any application, nor aplet. I've repeated the process several times, even uninstalling all programs that comes with flash, and no luck. Any clue about why this happens? Have you added multimedia (audio, video) files to the internal memory card? No. Even I've formatted the internal card to have nothing. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Battery drain with Diablo 4.2008.23-14
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 14:13 +0300, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: Do you have the RD mode enabled? It can drain the battery in a day. Sure? Yes, I've RD mode enabled. But I've been using that mode in previous flashes, and never had any problem. K.R. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Multi-boot Diablo and Chinook
Hi all So I've been trying to get my N800 to multi-boot into an everyday Diablo and a 'clean' test install of Chinook and Diablo. I've written up my progress here: https://wiki.maemo.org/Advanced_booting and now I'm stuck. Neither the Chinook nor Diablo partitions run correctly; they both progess to about 90% (blue line on bottom of splash screen) and then reboot. I'd appreciate some assistance :) David ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Battery drain with Diablo 4.2008.23-14
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:17 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Kimmo Hämäläinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have the RD mode enabled? It can drain the battery in a day. It can? Previous information has been that RD mode on its own (i.e. without enabling the serial console etc.) has no effect on battery life; and solely enables `sudo gainroot'. And that should still hold true, afaik What does plain RD mode do which affects battery so greatly? Nothing unless somebody had the bright idea to hook something to the plain RD mode flag. Which i really hope is not the case. Kimmo: can you please detail? -- Cheers, Igor --- Igor Stoppa Maemo Software - Nokia Devices RD - Helsinki ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Battery drain with Diablo 4.2008.23-14
RD-Mode is an interesting one. All enabling it does is set a flag in the CAL. The bulk of what happens in in /mnt/initfs/linuxrc and /etc/rc2.d/S99ttyusb0 which just read that flag and do things if that flag is set. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Multi-boot Diablo and Chinook
David Greaves wrote: Hi all So I've been trying to get my N800 to multi-boot into an everyday Diablo and a 'clean' test install of Chinook and Diablo. This is perfectly possible. I'm runing everyday Chinook and 'clean' test install of Diablo. Kernel and initfs is from Diablo. I've written up my progress here: https://wiki.maemo.org/Advanced_booting and now I'm stuck. Neither the Chinook nor Diablo partitions run correctly; they both progess to about 90% (blue line on bottom of splash screen) and then reboot. I'd appreciate some assistance :) I don't see anything wrong, few random hints - extract rootfs.jffs2 from .bin again and never mount it rw on desktop i.e. do 'mount -t jffs2 -o ro /tmp/mtdblock0 /tmp/jffs2' on PC. I've seen corruption of the image if mounted rw on PC. - use tar instead of rsync (should not make much difference) - performance tip - mount destination ext2 with noatime, run rsync with --inplace to prevent creating 2x more files in destination (one temporary, one real) Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Battery drain with Diablo 4.2008.23-14
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:04 +, Igor Stoppa wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:17 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Kimmo Hämäläinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have the RD mode enabled? It can drain the battery in a day. It can? Previous information has been that RD mode on its own (i.e. without enabling the serial console etc.) has no effect on battery life; and solely enables `sudo gainroot'. And that should still hold true, afaik What does plain RD mode do which affects battery so greatly? Nothing unless somebody had the bright idea to hook something to the plain RD mode flag. Which i really hope is not the case. Kimmo: can you please detail? I don't know the details. Disabling RD mode would at least eliminate the possibility. BR; Kimmo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Battery drain with Diablo 4.2008.23-14
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 15:42 +0300, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: I don't know the details. Disabling RD mode would at least eliminate the possibility. Ok. I'll try it. Thank you very much. BR; Kimmo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: javascript interruption
fwiw, I've noticed that when using the browser, if I haven't clicked anything on my n810 for a while, the javascript execution in the browser is halted. it's sort of cosmic... the answer was 42. I had to build and periodically execute acpi_fakekey 42 to keep the browser awake. 42 is the value for the left shift key... plus I get to hear the keyboard tapping away by itself. I would feel better with a hack-free way to do this. It won't work on my n800 since acpi_fakekey can't find a keyboard. I'm not sure how to change it to insert events into a different device or if there even is a no-op I can insert there that won't get ignored. -- Brad ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Battery drain with Diablo 4.2008.23-14
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:26:23PM +0200, Juan A. Suarez Romero wrote: The battery of my N810 lasts a day after reflashing it with Diablo version 4.2008.23-14. Had a similar experience when upgrading an N800 a while ago. IIRCC the fix then was to delete and recreate the swap file. /olle ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
portaudio
All, I managed to compile and build the V19 libportaudio.so library using the scratchbox CHINOOK environent. The test program pa_devs when run in the scratchbox envoronment works fine and reports 3 sound devices. When I try this on the actual N800 machine I get 0 devices found. Has anyone managed to get portaudio working on the N800 ? -Chris Dobbs ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
