Re: Profiling applications (oprofile, others?)
Alberto Mardegan ha scritto: since fremantle's maemo-mapper is so horribly slow, I went and tried to run oprofile. AFAIK, it was very slow even on Diablo: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4452 A. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Profiling applications (oprofile, others?)
Andrea Borgia wrote: Alberto Mardegan ha scritto: since fremantle's maemo-mapper is so horribly slow, I went and tried to run oprofile. AFAIK, it was very slow even on Diablo: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4452 Believe me, it's even slower :-) About the map cache, I don't see much point of having it in a DB at all, I would just use the filesystem. But I'll try to get all the developers of maps application to agree on a common place/format to store downloaded maps, in order to share it. Ciao, Alberto -- http://www.mardy.it -- geek in un lingua international! ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Qt or GTK+ which is better for developement
Hi, I am a newbie for maemo , having extensive experience developing for Android platform, I want to ask here, should I start with Qt ? or GTK+ or they will have the same impact, is there any difference in between the two considered with maemo development, officially GTK+ is supported? can we do everything with Qt we can do with GTK+ ? Thank You,. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: QA Process for non user/* packages and how Application Manager handles upgrades (was: Re: extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?)
2009/12/2 Anderson Lizardo anderson.liza...@openbossa.org: 2009/12/2 Benoît HERVIER kher...@khertan.net: What happen if i push something for testing like PyGTKEditor for example ... but once this one has been push, a new version of a python binding used by PyGTKEditor exist in the extras-devel, we cannot push it to extras-testing manually ? But as there isn't any new version of PyGTKEditor, i ll recreate one package in extras-devel with a greater number just to push the python binding. What happen now if this binding is a important update ? That's what is happening at the moment with python-osso. The version in extras extras-testing (0.4.0-0maemo1) has a bug where the __init__.py file is not generated (because it lacked the python-central dependency). The issue has been fixed in 0.4.0-0maemo2 some time ago, but it does not go to extras-testing because there is no package depending _explicitely_ on that new version. So unless someone promotes a user/* package to extras-testing that has Depends: python-osso (= 0.4.0-0maemo2) , python-osso will remain broken on extras extras-testing. Maybe a meta-package that depends on all new PyMaemo packages would do the trick? AFAIK there is a user/hidden section that lets the package appear in upgrade and uninstall views, but not in the normal install view. So users won't see it in the normal application list, but would have the option to remove or upgrade the package: http://maemo.gitorious.org/hildon-application-manager/mainline/commit/f7b4542b3c77114a95e2803708cec8eeff3409f7 (I don't know if this commit has made it into a release version yet, though) Thomas ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt or GTK+ which is better for developement
Hi, Abdul Mateen wrote: I am a newbie for maemo , having extensive experience developing for Android platform, I want to ask here, should I start with Qt ? or GTK+ or they will have the same impact, is there any difference in between the two considered with maemo development, officially GTK+ is supported? can we do everything with Qt we can do with GTK+ ? Objectively, you should probably target Qt for new applications. You can develop well integrated Maemo applications with Qt, and it will be the default toolkit interface from Maemo 6 onwards. If you're primarily targeting N900 or lower, you should use GTK+ and Hildon, that will be better integrated. Cheers, Dave. -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: dne...@maemo.org Jabber: bo...@jabber.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt or GTK+ which is better for developement
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org wrote: Objectively, you should probably target Qt for new applications. You can develop well integrated Maemo applications with Qt, and it will be the default toolkit interface from Maemo 6 onwards. Seconded. Also, Qt is going to be much more welcoming environment for a person with prior Java experience. -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder /opt
2009/12/2 Anderson Lizardo anderson.liza...@openbossa.org: All files installed under e.g. /usr/lib/python2.5 go automatically to /opt. But note that the package itself is unchanged (because pymaemo-optify takes care of handling these mount binds), so there is no way for maemo-optify to know whether to optify some Python package simply by looking at where it installs files. Short version of the required heuristics for NOT invoking maemo-optify: * any package including /opt * any package with debian/optify containing 'none' * any package with a direct, or indirect, dependency on pymaemo-optify. Any others? Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:and...@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt or GTK+ which is better for developement
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Abdul Mateen abmat...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for the quick answers, I got a initial idea to start with Qt development for N900 and onwards. I think Qt should be the official UI framework because of its designers support also, it is easy and straightforward for development in C/C++. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Paul Drummond paul.drumm...@iode.co.ukwrote: Hi Abdul, I am in the same position - I also have Android experience and am new to Maemo. I have been doing a bit of research over the last few days and my feeling at the momemt is that the Maemo community is in a state of transistion so it's a confusing time for new developers to jump in! Currently, GTK+ is the official tookit for Maemo 5 and Qt is a community supported alternative. But for Maemo 6, the roles will be swapped - Qt will become the official UI framework and GTK+ will still be available as a community supported alternative. Qt is the preferred UI framework because of it's cross-platform support. The idea being you will be able to develop a single app and deploy it on many mobile platforms (at least Symbian and Maemo). So what is the recommended approach if you want to develop a N900 app right now? Well, Qt 4.6 is still only a technoloy preview for Maemo but it sounds as if it's still the recommended framework for new development. Can a more experience maemo confirm this please? 2009/12/3 Abdul Mateen abmat...@gmail.com Hi, I am a newbie for maemo , having extensive experience developing for Android platform, I want to ask here, should I start with Qt ? or GTK+ or they will have the same impact, is there any difference in between the two considered with maemo development, officially GTK+ is supported? can we do everything with Qt we can do with GTK+ ? Thank You,. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Iode Software Ltd, registered in England No. 6299803. Registered Office Address: 3 Copper Beech Close, Dunnington, York, North Yorkshire, YO19 5PY. This message is intended only for the use of the person(s) (the intended recipient(s)) to whom it is addressed. It may contain information which is privileged and confidential within the meaning of applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender as soon as possible. The views expressed in this communication may not necessarily be the views held by The Company. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Bad Xephyr OpenGL performance
Everyone knows that OpenGL (Accelerated 3D) performance in Xephyr (on the host PC) is bad, so you only see the smooth Maemo effects when running on an actual device. But nobody I ask seems to know _why_. It's maybe only a problem on Intel graphics hardware, but again, nobody I ask knows why. I wonder if it's related to specific effects that Maemo uses, because the simple glxgears demo (in the mesa tarball) happily gets me around 1500 fps, or around 700fps using the -fullscreen option. Can someone enlighten me, ideally with bug report URLs? -- murr...@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt or GTK+ which is better for developement
On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 11:28 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Abdul Mateen wrote: I am a newbie for maemo , having extensive experience developing for Android platform, I want to ask here, should I start with Qt ? or GTK+ or they will have the same impact, is there any difference in between the two considered with maemo development, officially GTK+ is supported? can we do everything with Qt we can do with GTK+ ? Objectively, you should probably target Qt for new applications. You can develop well integrated Maemo applications with Qt, and it will be the default toolkit interface from Maemo 6 onwards. However, the published Maemo 6 Framework suggests that Maemo 6 will have a very different API for the UI, even if it does use general Qt conventions: http://qt.gitorious.org/maemo-6-ui-framework So I doubt that it's very helpful to write an application for Maemo using Qt now, other than just to learn about Qt. I wish they'd publish the API reference online. You can build it locally. I can't publish it because I'm afraid that the (no-modification, no-distribution) license doesn't allow it. These blog entries give some small idea of the new API: http://zchydem.enume.net/?p=128 http://zchydem.enume.net/?p=149 http://zchydem.enume.net/?p=243 If you're primarily targeting N900 or lower, you should use GTK+ and Hildon, that will be better integrated. -- murr...@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt or GTK+ which is better for developement
Yes, I think I should start by developing on Qt for Maemo 5 and onwards, I am also curious about distribution of applications, like Android has Android Market maemo has Maemo Select but I saw one can not push paid apps into Maemo Select. Any news nokia is going for an app store for Maemo ? I must say that: This community is far more superior and have faster responses than Android community wow, amazing. I am keenly interested in learning Maemo 5+, I have already setup the environment, I am sure and will hope best that , if I will stuck at some place this community will help alot On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Murray Cumming murr...@murrayc.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 11:28 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Abdul Mateen wrote: I am a newbie for maemo , having extensive experience developing for Android platform, I want to ask here, should I start with Qt ? or GTK+ or they will have the same impact, is there any difference in between the two considered with maemo development, officially GTK+ is supported? can we do everything with Qt we can do with GTK+ ? Objectively, you should probably target Qt for new applications. You can develop well integrated Maemo applications with Qt, and it will be the default toolkit interface from Maemo 6 onwards. However, the published Maemo 6 Framework suggests that Maemo 6 will have a very different API for the UI, even if it does use general Qt conventions: http://qt.gitorious.org/maemo-6-ui-framework So I doubt that it's very helpful to write an application for Maemo using Qt now, other than just to learn about Qt. I wish they'd publish the API reference online. You can build it locally. I can't publish it because I'm afraid that the (no-modification, no-distribution) license doesn't allow it. These blog entries give some small idea of the new API: http://zchydem.enume.net/?p=128 http://zchydem.enume.net/?p=149 http://zchydem.enume.net/?p=243 If you're primarily targeting N900 or lower, you should use GTK+ and Hildon, that will be better integrated. -- murr...@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt or GTK+ which is better for developement
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Murray Cumming murr...@murrayc.com wrote: So I doubt that it's very helpful to write an application for Maemo using Qt now, other than just to learn about Qt. I think the intention is to have just plain Qt applications work on Harmattan as well. Also, even if some of the app will need to change in order to support DUI, most of it really doesn't. All the engine side code for starters; QtCore does provide quite tangible productivity gains over using glib/c++ stdlib/posix. If you are using Model-View framework, you can directly migrate your model classes as well. -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Any new information on Developer Device Program?
Christmas is approaching, and to me it is absolutly not transparent, what happend to a N900 Developer Device Program. I could not find any information on maemo.org. Detlef ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?
ds wrote: Christmas is approaching, and to me it is absolutly not transparent, what happend to a N900 Developer Device Program. I could not find any information on maemo.org. Oh, you mean you missed all the haiku in Maemo talk thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=398254#post398254 ? Definitely worth reading :-) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?
2009/12/3 ds d...@physik.de: Christmas is approaching, and to me it is absolutly not transparent, what happend to a N900 Developer Device Program. I could not find any information on maemo.org. Detlef what do you mean by new information ? Are you aware of this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32951 -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt or GTK+ which is better for developement
On Dec 3, 2009, at 12:07, Abdul Mateen wrote: Yes, I think I should start by developing on Qt for Maemo 5 and onwards, I am also curious about distribution of applications, like Android has Android Market maemo has Maemo Select but I saw one can not push paid apps into Maemo Select. Any news nokia is going for an app store for Maemo ? Ovi is going to be (potentially) a paid app store for Maemo. Note that there already are thousands of apps available through apt-get and they are free. Maemo is based on debian which is a Free Software GNU / Linux distribution, so many of the libraries use LGPL or the GPL. This may have a bearing on your apps, so it often pays to understand the licenses before you start distributing your software. Jeremiah ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?
We live on an eternal week, and still waiting... I hope someone will let me play with his/her N900 in Barcelona because I haven't seen one yet (is it true? has it been released?) :D Best regards, 2009/12/3 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com: 2009/12/3 ds d...@physik.de: Christmas is approaching, and to me it is absolutly not transparent, what happend to a N900 Developer Device Program. I could not find any information on maemo.org. Detlef what do you mean by new information ? Are you aware of this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32951 -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?
No, I was not. Last time important information was on maemo-developers! So I did not search talks:-) Thanks Detlef Am Donnerstag, den 03.12.2009, 12:27 + schrieb Aniello Del Sorbo: 2009/12/3 ds d...@physik.de: Christmas is approaching, and to me it is absolutly not transparent, what happend to a N900 Developer Device Program. I could not find any information on maemo.org. Detlef what do you mean by new information ? Are you aware of this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32951 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt or GTK+ which is better for developement
Am Donnerstag, den 03.12.2009, 06:07 -0500 schrieb Abdul Mateen: Yes, I think I should start by developing on Qt for Maemo 5 and onwards, I am also curious about distribution of applications, like Android has Android Market maemo has Maemo Select but I saw one can not push paid apps into Maemo Select. Any news nokia is going for an app store for Maemo ? Isn't that what Ovi is for? In general: maemo.org has the Extras repository for 3rd party software that one does not have to pay for[1]. Access is available through maemo.org/downloads website and through the pre-installed Application Manager on the N900. Nokia Maemo has the Ovi store. maemo (with no capital letter) does not exist. andre [1] I tried to express free as in beer (free as in software | non-free) a bit more understandable. Hope it works. -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?
I'll be there and I'll let you play with my N900 there, no problem with that... It's true :p it's out, but only in selected countries... Aniello 2009/12/3 Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente jsmanri...@gmail.com: We live on an eternal week, and still waiting... I hope someone will let me play with his/her N900 in Barcelona because I haven't seen one yet (is it true? has it been released?) :D Best regards, 2009/12/3 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com: 2009/12/3 ds d...@physik.de: Christmas is approaching, and to me it is absolutly not transparent, what happend to a N900 Developer Device Program. I could not find any information on maemo.org. Detlef what do you mean by new information ? Are you aware of this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32951 -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Bad Xephyr OpenGL performance
On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 18:53 +0800 Murray Cumming wrote: Everyone knows that OpenGL (Accelerated 3D) performance in Xephyr (on the host PC) is bad, so you only see the smooth Maemo effects when running on an actual device. But nobody I ask seems to know _why_. It's maybe only a problem on Intel graphics hardware, but again, nobody I ask knows why. I wonder if it's related to specific effects that Maemo uses, because the simple glxgears demo (in the mesa tarball) happily gets me around 1500 fps, or around 700fps using the -fullscreen option. How about a clutter application in Xephyr? Maybe it helps locate the problem in this way. Can someone enlighten me, ideally with bug report URLs? -- Roger WANG ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder /opt
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org wrote: 2009/12/2 Anderson Lizardo anderson.liza...@openbossa.org: All files installed under e.g. /usr/lib/python2.5 go automatically to /opt. But note that the package itself is unchanged (because pymaemo-optify takes care of handling these mount binds), so there is no way for maemo-optify to know whether to optify some Python package simply by looking at where it installs files. Short version of the required heuristics for NOT invoking maemo-optify: * any package including /opt * any package with debian/optify containing 'none' * any package with a direct, or indirect, dependency on pymaemo-optify. That indirect dependency part may be tricky to implement, maybe just check for dependency on python or python2.5 ? Regards, -- Anderson Lizardo OpenBossa Labs - INdT Manaus - Brazil ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: QA Process for non user/* packages and how Application Manager handles upgrades (was: Re: extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?)
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe a meta-package that depends on all new PyMaemo packages would do the trick? AFAIK there is a user/hidden section that lets the package appear in upgrade and uninstall views, but not in the normal install view. So users won't see it in the normal application list, but would have the option to remove or upgrade the package: http://maemo.gitorious.org/hildon-application-manager/mainline/commit/f7b4542b3c77114a95e2803708cec8eeff3409f7 As I said on a previous message this solves the promote packages to extras issue, but still doesn't solve: * how to convince the user of installing this meta pacakge (does he ever have to know about Python to install e.g. gPodder?) * installing this metapackage will obviously install *all* PyMaemo packages, which will take unnecessarily precious storage even if not all packages are used. * If I understood Mikko's explanation right, HAM will not upgrade a dependency automatically (unlike apt-get upgrade), unless a installed (or to be installed) user/* application exclicitely Depends on that new version (i.e. uses Depends: package (= x.y), where x.y is the newer version). If that's correct, each new version of a dependency that contains a important fix will require *all* Python applications updating their versions to include the new required version in debian/control, if we want the user to have that fix. Mikko: feel free to correct me if I made a mistake. Regards, -- Anderson Lizardo OpenBossa Labs - INdT Manaus - Brazil ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: QA Process for non user/* packages and how Application Manager handles upgrades (was: Re: extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?)
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anderson Lizardo anderson.liza...@openbossa.org wrote: * If I understood Mikko's explanation right, HAM will not upgrade a dependency automatically (unlike apt-get upgrade), unless a installed (or to be installed) user/* application exclicitely Depends on that new version (i.e. uses Depends: package (= x.y), where x.y is the newer version). If that's correct, each new version of a dependency that contains a important fix will require *all* Python applications updating their versions to include the new required version in debian/control, if we want the user to have that fix. Mikko: feel free to correct me if I made a mistake. Yes, you understood correctly. * installing this metapackage will obviously install *all* PyMaemo packages, which will take unnecessarily precious storage even if not all packages are used. But this user/hidden (which I've never heard of) is different. It seems that user/hidden packages get the same treatment as other user/ packages for updates, but they cannot be separately installed. User/hidden pacakge could be part of the solution, but it's still awkward and unnecessary hack compared to normal upgrades. If user/hidden was used all python apps should depend on big pymaemo metapackage, which would pull all packages even if not needed as you said. But if user/hidden is already (or soon) there, it might be the best option available. After all application space isn't big issue anymore, and after installing 2-3 python application you have practically installed all pymaemo packages anyway. -- Mikko Vartiainen ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt or GTK+ which is better for developement
On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 13:31 +0100, Jeremiah Foster wrote: [snip] Maemo is based on debian which is a Free Software GNU / Linux distribution, so many of the libraries use LGPL or the GPL. This may have a bearing on your apps, so it often pays to understand the licenses before you start distributing your software. That's unnecessarily alarmist. The licenses (such as LGPL, MIT) used by typical Maemo APIs create no significant problem for distribution of applications built on the platform. -- murr...@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?
Hi, Aniello Del Sorbo schrieb: Are you aware of this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32951 that's a cute one... 62 pages of messages now, this thread has become a small book now ;-) scnr :-) Greetings Florian -- The dream of yesterday Florian Boor is the hope of todayTel: +49 271-771091-15 and the reality of tomorrow.Fax: +49 271-771091-19 [Robert Hutchings Goddard, 1904]florian.b...@kernelconcepts.de http://www.kernelconcepts.de/en ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Archive extractor
Hi, I needed today graphical UI for unzipping a file but couldn't find an application for this purpose. Does such tool exist? The tool could be quite simple. Something made with e.g. python that would use unzip (and maybe tar, bzip2, gzip) command line tool to extract the files. Using python/c bindings would probably be a bit more robust solution, if such exist. The application should provide a .desktop file so that e.g. File Manager and Browser would suggest it when the user is trying to handle an archive file. The UI could mainly provide a way to select where to extract the files. It could optionally allow user to see the content file list without extracting them anywhere. Providing a way to see the progress of the extracting and possibility to cancel it would be a plus. -- Tuomas ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[ANN] Python bindings for Location API - python-location
[cross posted to both maemo-developers and pymaemo-developers; please cut one of the lists if not subscribed to both] Hi all, The PyMaemo team is proud announce the immediate availability of Python bindings for the Location API (used for GPS access) in Maemo 5, provided by the python-location package. The package is currently available in extras-devel, but should arrive in extras-testing/extras once some application which depends on it is promoted. A tutorial-like documentation is available[1] with a complete example, based on the existing section from the Maemo 5 Developer Guide. We also have a reference manual[2] based on the C documentation. Feel free to report bugs and doubts to our mailing list: https://garage.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/pymaemo-developers/ (or here as well). Known issues: * The satellites and cell_info attributes of GPSDevice class are still not available in Python. References: [1] http://wiki.maemo.org/PyMaemo/Using_Location_API [2] http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/python_location_manual/ Regards, -- Anderson Lizardo OpenBossa Labs - INdT Manaus - Brazil ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt or GTK+ which is better for developement
On Dec 3, 2009, at 15:31, Murray Cumming wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 13:31 +0100, Jeremiah Foster wrote: [snip] Maemo is based on debian which is a Free Software GNU / Linux distribution, so many of the libraries use LGPL or the GPL. This may have a bearing on your apps, so it often pays to understand the licenses before you start distributing your software. That's unnecessarily alarmist. The licenses (such as LGPL, MIT) used by typical Maemo APIs create no significant problem for distribution of applications built on the platform. I don't see how it is alarmist to point out the licenses used. Many developers do not understand the implications of using Free Software licenses, especially those who come from proprietary software backgrounds. Whatever software you use, you should understand the license it is under. Jeremiah ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
