Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication
2014-04-15 11:25 GMT+05:30, sooraj kenoth soorajken...@gmail.com: http://www.ilug-cochin.org/faq/ Is ILUG-Cochin a registered organization? No, ILUG-Cochin is a not for profit voluntary organization. It has not been registered presently. Ok, So is there any membership fee for ILUG-Cochin, or compulsory contribution? This is one of the most common questions that come up. No there is no fee or money of any sort involved. (Members sponsor the tea and snacks during the meetings). Anyone in the society is entitled to be a member of the ILUG-Cochin. What we believe is that information needs to be available to everyone and everyone has the freedom to use it. Hence we have no restrictions whatsoever in any aspect. So how and who decided only this email address would be official? Would it be acceptable to everyone if I say, from tomorrow I will be the last word on everything about ilug cochin? ഐലഗ് കൊച്ചിനെന്താ ആരുടെയെങ്കിലും തറവാട്ട് സ്വത്താണോ? I hereby ask all members to throw the original ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication in the dust bin with the contempt it deserves. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as they follow the rules: laws and constitution. ___ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #ilugko...@irc.freenode.net
Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication
Hello, Who is the official co-ordinator now? Why don't you add your name in the signature? We understand that this is voluntary activity and you may not have enough time to co-ordinate activities all the time. What is the need to cling on to the position then? Why not let others who have more time do it better? Why should there be any politics in a LUG? It's really absurd! This is supposed to be a group of like minded people wanting to help each other. Let us hold up its spirit of freedom! Thank you. Regards, Sunjith P S On 15/04/14 11:56 am, Pirate Praveen wrote: 2014-04-15 11:25 GMT+05:30, sooraj kenoth soorajken...@gmail.com: http://www.ilug-cochin.org/faq/ Is ILUG-Cochin a registered organization? No, ILUG-Cochin is a not for profit voluntary organization. It has not been registered presently. Ok, So is there any membership fee for ILUG-Cochin, or compulsory contribution? This is one of the most common questions that come up. No there is no fee or money of any sort involved. (Members sponsor the tea and snacks during the meetings). Anyone in the society is entitled to be a member of the ILUG-Cochin. What we believe is that information needs to be available to everyone and everyone has the freedom to use it. Hence we have no restrictions whatsoever in any aspect. So how and who decided only this email address would be official? Would it be acceptable to everyone if I say, from tomorrow I will be the last word on everything about ilug cochin? ഐലഗ് കൊച്ചിനെന്താ ആരുടെയെങ്കിലും തറവാട്ട് സ്വത്താണോ? I hereby ask all members to throw the original ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication in the dust bin with the contempt it deserves. ___ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #ilugko...@irc.freenode.net
Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication
Hi all, On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:34 AM, coordina...@ilug-cochin.org wrote: To The GNU/Linux Community, All offical communications regarding ILUG-Cochin events views will only be announced on the mailing list using the email address events at ilug-cochin dot org. No other website or mailing list will be used for the purpose of communication of events and views. Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs. ILUG-Cochin takes no responsibility for any such programs or views. Please read the above carefully. To copy-paste: Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs This is true. Anyone can subscribe to mailing list. People can use this to advertise their company, work, workshop or whatever. And all those many not fall under the views/philosophy on Free Software. So please dont think of this mail is only to you when reading this. What's the big deal in reading this mail if all people in this list are standing for same reason. Moreover this list is not dedicated to any specific Free Software but to all Free software and everything that related to it. Its quite common people have different view at times. So you can't say that everyone reading this agrees with each other. IF anyone is organizing an event that is remotely related to Free Software in this list that doesn't mean it completely falls under the philosophy. Co-ordinator ILUG-Cochin ___ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #ilugko...@irc.freenode.net -- Regards, Rashad ___ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #ilugko...@irc.freenode.net
Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication
2014-04-15 20:16 GMT+05:30, Rashad M mohammedrasha...@gmail.com: Hi all, On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:34 AM, coordina...@ilug-cochin.org wrote: To The GNU/Linux Community, All offical communications regarding ILUG-Cochin events views will only be announced on the mailing list using the email address events at ilug-cochin dot org. No other website or mailing list will be used for the purpose of communication of events and views. Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs. ILUG-Cochin takes no responsibility for any such programs or views. Please read the above carefully. To copy-paste: Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs This is true. Anyone can subscribe to mailing list. People can use this to advertise their company, work, workshop or whatever. And all those many not fall under the views/philosophy on Free Software. So please dont think of this mail is only to you when reading this. No the problem is not with setting policy for the group, but who is making the policies? Can one person decide the official policy of ilug cochin? Where was this policy discussed? Does members have any say in deciding policies? What's the big deal in reading this mail if all people in this list are standing for same reason. The big deal is because some people without names are making decisions for the entire group. If it has to be an official policy it should be discussed and approved by members. We may have to decide a process for that. If at all we have to have a few person taking up responsible positions, the community should be able to elect them democratically for limited periods like in other free software communities like debian. If at all we are following sabdfl method of Ubuntu, we got to know who is that person. That mail did not reflect my stand, so I need to ask. Moreover this list is not dedicated to any specific Free Software but to all Free software and everything that related to it. Its quite common people have different view at times. So you can't say that everyone reading this agrees with each other. So who gets the final word on what is official? At the least we should know who is responsible to make those decisions on behalf of the community. IF anyone is organizing an event that is remotely related to Free Software in this list that doesn't mean it completely falls under the philosophy. Who is deciding it? What is the process for deciding it? lets be transparent about the process. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as they follow the rules: laws and constitution. ___ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #ilugko...@irc.freenode.net
Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Pirate Praveen prav...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-15 20:16 GMT+05:30, Rashad M mohammedrasha...@gmail.com: Hi all, On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:34 AM, coordina...@ilug-cochin.org wrote: To The GNU/Linux Community, All offical communications regarding ILUG-Cochin events views will only be announced on the mailing list using the email address events at ilug-cochin dot org. No other website or mailing list will be used for the purpose of communication of events and views. Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs. ILUG-Cochin takes no responsibility for any such programs or views. Please read the above carefully. To copy-paste: Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs This is true. Anyone can subscribe to mailing list. People can use this to advertise their company, work, workshop or whatever. And all those many not fall under the views/philosophy on Free Software. So please dont think of this mail is only to you when reading this. No the problem is not with setting policy for the group, but who is making the policies? Can one person decide the official policy of ilug cochin? Where was this policy discussed? Does members have any say in deciding policies? What's the big deal in reading this mail if all people in this list are standing for same reason. The big deal is because some people without names are making decisions for the entire group. If it has to be an official policy it should be discussed and approved by members. We may have to decide a process for that. If at all we have to have a few person taking up responsible positions, the community should be able to elect them democratically for limited periods like in other free software communities like debian. If at all we are following sabdfl method of Ubuntu, we got to know who is that person. That mail did not reflect my stand, so I need to ask. Moreover this list is not dedicated to any specific Free Software but to all Free software and everything that related to it. Its quite common people have different view at times. So you can't say that everyone reading this agrees with each other. So who gets the final word on what is official? At the least we should know who is responsible to make those decisions on behalf of the community. IF anyone is organizing an event that is remotely related to Free Software in this list that doesn't mean it completely falls under the philosophy. Who is deciding it? What is the process for deciding it? lets be transparent about the process. I fully agree with this. In the homepage ilug could have the list of responsible persons. So that mails from coordina...@ilug-cochin.org is always from the one who is holding that position. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as they follow the rules: laws and constitution. ___ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #ilugko...@irc.freenode.net -- Regards, Rashad ___ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #ilugko...@irc.freenode.net
Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication
What's the problem with ILUG. As you said Free as in Freedom . What type of freedom? I had already send a mail regarding this and found that its get blocked. I have only one doubt as you said about the venue. Its the policy that, ILUG cochin should use non commercial venue. Then where we can find that? If you are planning this type venue, we should search for auditorium. I don't know why this mail. Have anyone got any complaint against event? Even if so, who and what type of complaint? Do they suggest any solution for this? I am not sure whats the problem. Sooraj N.S. On April 15, 2014 8:57:43 PM GMT+05:30, Pirate Praveen prav...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-15 20:16 GMT+05:30, Rashad M mohammedrasha...@gmail.com: Hi all, On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:34 AM, coordina...@ilug-cochin.org wrote: To The GNU/Linux Community, All offical communications regarding ILUG-Cochin events views will only be announced on the mailing list using the email address events at ilug-cochin dot org. No other website or mailing list will be used for the purpose of communication of events and views. Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs. ILUG-Cochin takes no responsibility for any such programs or views. Please read the above carefully. To copy-paste: Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs This is true. Anyone can subscribe to mailing list. People can use this to advertise their company, work, workshop or whatever. And all those many not fall under the views/philosophy on Free Software. So please dont think of this mail is only to you when reading this. No the problem is not with setting policy for the group, but who is making the policies? Can one person decide the official policy of ilug cochin? Where was this policy discussed? Does members have any say in deciding policies? What's the big deal in reading this mail if all people in this list are standing for same reason. The big deal is because some people without names are making decisions for the entire group. If it has to be an official policy it should be discussed and approved by members. We may have to decide a process for that. If at all we have to have a few person taking up responsible positions, the community should be able to elect them democratically for limited periods like in other free software communities like debian. If at all we are following sabdfl method of Ubuntu, we got to know who is that person. That mail did not reflect my stand, so I need to ask. Moreover this list is not dedicated to any specific Free Software but to all Free software and everything that related to it. Its quite common people have different view at times. So you can't say that everyone reading this agrees with each other. So who gets the final word on what is official? At the least we should know who is responsible to make those decisions on behalf of the community. IF anyone is organizing an event that is remotely related to Free Software in this list that doesn't mean it completely falls under the philosophy. Who is deciding it? What is the process for deciding it? lets be transparent about the process. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as they follow the rules: laws and constitution. ___ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #ilugko...@irc.freenode.net -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #ilugko...@irc.freenode.net
Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication
http://www.ilug-cochin.org/faq/ http://www.ilug-cochin.org/meetings/ilug-cochin-meeting-on-23rd-march-2014/ http://www.ilug-cochin.org/contact/ I couldn't find anything other than these links. I think the contact numbers in contact us has to be assumed as that of office bearers/ coordinator. ___ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #ilugko...@irc.freenode.net
Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication
Is there a public list of ilug-cochin office bearers? Also what are the requirement for being an official member? 2014-04-10 14:04 GMT+05:30, coordina...@ilug-cochin.org coordina...@ilug-cochin.org: To The GNU/Linux Community, All offical communications regarding ILUG-Cochin events views will only be announced on the mailing list using the email address events at ilug-cochin dot org. No other website or mailing list will be used for the purpose of communication of events and views. Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs. ILUG-Cochin takes no responsibility for any such programs or views. Co-ordinator ILUG-Cochin ___ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #ilugko...@irc.freenode.net -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as they follow the rules: laws and constitution. ___ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #ilugko...@irc.freenode.net
[ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication
To The GNU/Linux Community, All offical communications regarding ILUG-Cochin events views will only be announced on the mailing list using the email address events at ilug-cochin dot org. No other website or mailing list will be used for the purpose of communication of events and views. Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs. ILUG-Cochin takes no responsibility for any such programs or views. Co-ordinator ILUG-Cochin ___ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #ilugko...@irc.freenode.net
