[Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception: regular_exclude_lists
Hi all, I've followed the FAQ to move some lists across to a new server, but now on the new machine any message posted to a list gets passed to Mailman and then disappears. The Mailman error log says this: Sep 24 10:34:18 2009 (5311) Uncaught runner exception: regular_exclude_lists Sep 24 10:34:18 2009 (5311) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 120, in _oneloop File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 191, in _onefile File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py, line 99, in process File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py, line 157, in do_exclude File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 146, in __getattr__ AttributeError: regular_exclude_lists Sep 24 10:34:18 2009 (5311) SHUNTING: 1253752458.0181279+c9484331c59781f0d3cf0af775ece9b9c88a6b43 I can't find any reference to this exception, so I'm a bit stuck where to look next. Any ideas? The new server is running a fresh install of Mailman (it didn't have any lists before I moved these ones across) and the move went from Slackware to Gentoo so many of the paths have changed, just in case these are saved in the list data. (I have run the fixurl script as per the FAQ, and the lists do appear in the Mailman web UI.) Many thanks, Adam. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Can't Create New Lists for RonaldKnox.org
Hi - when we click on the link to create a new list http://ronaldknox.org/mailman/create, we get an error that this page cannot be displayed - no sign-in page is shown. Please help. Thank you, Anita McGing -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] not receiving pending moderator's emails
We recently migrated to a new server and newer version of mailman and all our moderated lists have stop receiving the notice of pending posts. We are now on 2.1.11 version of mailman and came from 2.1.4. Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new requests, as well as daily notices about collected ones? Is set to yes. If I run checkdb manually nothing happens. The sender get a notice that the emails is on hold pending the moderator approval. The moderate can send email or approve pending ones and they go. Just the notice to the moderator not getting to them. We are on suse Linux 2.6.27.29-0.1-pae Anyone got an idea why or what to do? John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] have a question
How do i use my mailing list to send out mass newsletters? Thanks Barb -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Mailman silently discard messages
I have a mailing list that suddenly died, theoretically without any changes being made. I've seen some posts about this behavior, but can't figure out what's happening. I modified Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py as described here : http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg48582.html In my log I now see : Sep 21 16:50:13 2009 (10277) Message discarded by Approve, msgid: 4ab81105.1090...@invalid.com I've scoured the settings and don't see anything obvious. I also enabled forward_auto_discards, but nothing is sent to the moderator address. Unfortunately Python is not my strong point, so I don't know where to go from here. http://lists.nextspace.us/mailman/admin/nextspace-chatter/?VARHELP=privacy/sender/forward_auto_discards Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Chris -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Digest Headers
So I recently had a member of our list ask that the headers about sending and receiving messages be put at the end of the email, and I happen to think it's a good idea as that is a standard format that people are used to seeing. However my header field is blank, though I do have a custom footer. My question is how can I move this text to the bottom of the email? In case it is unclear I've included the portion in question below. Thanks -Bob Fishel capdist-announce-requ...@dx.ayw.org wrote: Send Capdist-announce mailing list submissions to capdist-annou...@dx.ayw.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://dx.ayw.org/mailman/listinfo/capdist-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to capdist-announce-requ...@dx.ayw.org You can reach the person managing the list at capdist-announce-ow...@dx.ayw.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Capdist-announce digest... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] problem with unwanted moderation
Hello, I have a list setup with all default configuration except that I have the generic nonmember action setting set to Accept. The mailing list address is: dl_supp...@foo.com. I have an email setup, supp...@foo.com, that is forwarded to dl_supp...@foo.com. If I send a message to dl_supp...@foo.com it goes out to all the members, but if I send an email to supp...@foo.com, it ends up in the moderator queue. Is this supposed to work this way? If so, is there a way to change it? thanks, Daniel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] List, I want to migrate from mailman 2.1.9 to mailman 2.1.12, is there any concise document on this procedure, specially the lists members and archive migration?
Mi install is: CentOS 4.6 APACHE 2 Python 2.9.6 mailman 2.1.9 sendmail 8.13 Thank you. -- *Supreme Court of New Mexico* *Judicial Information Division* Ennis Ibarra -- NSASr Off. Ph.N. (505) 476-6937 Cell Ph.N. (505) 660-1395 en...@nmcourts.gov http://www.nmcourts.gov http://www.nmcourts.gov/ 2905 Rodeo Park Dr. East, Bldg. #5 Santa Fe, NM, 87505 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Question about Troubleshooting Mailing List Issues
One of the administrators of our Mailing List (and I also tried it myself) tried to send out a message on one of our lists. The policy on this particular list is that any mailing list member can send out a message as long as it is under 100K in size. After a couple of hours, the message bounced back to him and it said something like Try again later. I also tried to send a message (I am also an administrator (but am not in charge of the list) and member.) and I haven't gotten any response yet myself. The server that our website and the Mailman program reside on is the same, and I am able to log in and make changes to the information on our website, but I am not able to send any messages, nor do I know of a way to see if there is something wrong with Mailman (it doesn't seem to be the server...). I also checked the documentation at list.org, but there isn't anything to this effect. I am also wondering... in the future, if there is a way to manually send e-mails out to the list (i.e. from within the Mail List Administrative area)? Thanks, Emmett Rahl Long Beach, CA -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Postfix Mailman VERP
Hi there I am using Mailman -2.1.9-4 amd Postfix 2.6.5-1 on a Red Hat EL 5 box. I am trying to configure VERP in some of my mailing lists but Postfix keeps complaining about the addresses that do not exists in sender or recipient maps (virtual). In fact they do not , but is there a way to convince it that they do exist but in VERP style form (+ delimiter)? thanks in advance Dimitrios -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] (no subject)
Hello! We have had enough turnover within our non-profit to the point that nobody has permissions to add new groups. We can perform membership and other management functions on the existing groups however are unable to create new ones. We receive a not authorized error message when we try. Would someone please contact me at 619-379-6322 and let me know what information is required to have either or password reset or this access given? Thank you! Mr. Chris Hallo Secretary, Board of Directors Finest City Performing Arts, inc. dba Gay Men's Chorus of San Diego 619-379-6322 (Cell) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] bouce processing problem
Hi all, I have a problem regarding bounce rocessing Although I intentionally create bounce traffic with fake addresses to test the bounce processing system , verp eanabled mailing lists or not, e-mail addresses are not disabled ,beacause the bounce score by all means doesn't inccrement. I paste the output of Mark Sapiro's module get_bounce_info.py bounce info for member [e-mail protected] current score: 1.0 last bounce date: (2009, 9, 23) email notices left: 1 last notice date: (1970, 1, 2) confirmation cookie: None mailman-2.1.9-4 on a red hat enterprise 5 box. Thanks in advance Dimitrios Karapiperis -- ΔΗΜΗΤΡΙΟΣ ΚΑΡΑΠΙΠΕΡΗΣ ΤΕΧΝ. ΥΠ. ΣΥΖΕΥΞΙΣ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ ΔΗΜΟΚΡΑΤΙΑ - Ν. ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΗΣ ΔΗΜΟΣ ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΗΣ - Δ/ΝΣΗ ΟΡΓΑΝΩΣΕΩΣ ΜΕΘΟΔΩΝ 2310 - 257844 fax 2310 - 244965 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] more info
hi, hi was reading the features of mailman. I still can't understand if is possible to use it in the way I need. sorry if I bother you, but I really can't figure it out. I need to set a form, and the subriscriers will receive the mail in the order I decide (like a sequential autoresponder), so everyone will receive soon the mail N°1, two days after the registration the mail N° 2 and so on. but I also need to send sometimes mail like a mailing list (for example today i wanna invite them to frre teleconference) is this possible with mailman? ivan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] user support
I'm not sure if I'm writing to the right place, so please tell me if I should direct this inquiry elsewhere. I'm the administrator of a mailman list written in python, and several list members have written to me to say that they're not receiving copies of my email blasts. Three of those four members happen to have aol accounts, but the fourth does not. How can I figure out what's preventing them from receiving my listserv emails? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Florence Hutner Corresponding Secretary Stuyvesant Parents Association flore...@stuypanews.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Mail server integration question
Hi, has anyone integrated mailman with a Microsoft Exchange mail server? Any guidance you could provide would be helpful. Thanks, Larry -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Install problem with Mailman 2.1.11
Folks,
I am trying to install mailmail 2.1.11 and running into problems. Log data is
listed below. Any idea what might be happening?
Don
Slackware 13.0 system
Linux suaxus 2.6.29.6-smp #2 SMP Mon Aug 17 00:52:54 CDT 2009 i686 AMD
Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
Python 2.6.2
=
This is the script used to configure mailman.
#!/bin/sh
#
OPTIONS=
OPTIONS=${OPTIONS} --prefix=/opt/mailman
OPTIONS=${OPTIONS} --exec-prefix=/opt/mailman
OPTIONS=${OPTIONS} --with-var-prefix=/etc/mailman
OPTIONS=${OPTIONS} --with-python=/usr/bin/python
OPTIONS=${OPTIONS} --with-username=mailman
OPTIONS=${OPTIONS} --with-groupname=mailman
#
./configure ${OPTIONS}
=
Partial log of the install - the end of output.
Listing /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/MaildirRunner.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/NewsRunner.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/RetryRunner.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/VirginRunner.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/__init__.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/sbcache.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/SafeDict.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Site.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/TopicMgr.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/UserDesc.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/Version.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/__init__.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py ...
Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ...
bin/update:37: DeprecationWarning: the md5 module is deprecated; use hashlib
instead
import md5
/opt/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py:32: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is
deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
import sha
Traceback (most recent call last):
File bin/update, line 51, in module
from Mailman import MailList
File /opt/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 51, in module
from Mailman.Archiver import Archiver
File /opt/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/__init__.py, line 17, in module
from Archiver import *
File /opt/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 32, in module
from Mailman import Mailbox
File /opt/mailman/Mailman/Mailbox.py, line 21, in module
import mailbox
File /usr/lib/python2.6/mailbox.py, line 19, in module
import email.message
ImportError: No module named message
make: *** [update] Error 1
=
python -v
# installing zipimport hook
import zipimport # builtin
# installed zipimport hook
# /usr/lib/python2.6/site.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.6/site.py
import site # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.6/site.pyc
# /usr/lib/python2.6/os.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.6/os.py
import os # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.6/os.pyc
import errno # builtin
import posix # builtin
# /usr/lib/python2.6/posixpath.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.6/posixpath.py
import posixpath # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.6/posixpath.pyc
# /usr/lib/python2.6/stat.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.6/stat.py
import stat # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.6/stat.pyc
# /usr/lib/python2.6/genericpath.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.6/genericpath.py
import genericpath # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.6/genericpath.pyc
# /usr/lib/python2.6/warnings.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.6/warnings.py
import warnings # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.6/warnings.pyc
# /usr/lib/python2.6/linecache.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.6/linecache.py
import linecache # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.6/linecache.pyc
# /usr/lib/python2.6/types.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.6/types.py
import types # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.6/types.pyc
# /usr/lib/python2.6/UserDict.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.6/UserDict.py
import UserDict # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.6/UserDict.pyc
# /usr/lib/python2.6/_abcoll.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.6/_abcoll.py
import _abcoll # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.6/_abcoll.pyc
# /usr/lib/python2.6/abc.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.6/abc.py
import abc # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.6/abc.pyc
# /usr/lib/python2.6/copy_reg.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.6/copy_reg.py
import copy_reg # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.6/copy_reg.pyc
import encodings # directory
[Mailman-Users] Mailman : too fast when small ressources, how to make it slower
Hello, I use mailman for around 3000 subscribers on a small VDS (virtual server under Virtuozzo). I've configured postfix to fork no more than 10 times to avoid aving to many process (no more than 128 ... or my system become instable). But It seems mailman is too fast to generate mails so that it use a lot off kernel memory, too much for my VDS which cause a non sending of many emails, memory is not allocate by Virtuozzo to my Vds. Of course I can't reconfigure Virtuozzo parameters, so here is my point : it there a way to configure mailman to send emails to a list slower than normal ? I was thinking of sending mails per packets, for example 100 by 100, in a predifined period of time, but I haven't found how to configure mailman for that ... I'm quit new in mailman by I haven't found the answer yet, usually people want that mailman generates and sends mail faster ... That is not my case :( Thanks for your precious help. Kévin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] can't find mailman Archives
Hi,I use mailman to create a maillist named mailman, when I hit the Mailman Archives , it turn to a Mailman Archives page, but i can't find my archives, the page show:No messages have been posted to this list yet, so the archives are currently empty. You can get more information about this list. in fact, i find the archive file in directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/... i don't know what's the problem. look forward to your answer. thank you! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Moderator Password doesn't Take
I have a working mail list on Mailman 2.1.11.cp3; I've set up a moderator email but it won't accept the moderator password. How do I fix this? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] List of Mailman lists?
Hi, Is there a general list of all current Mailman email lists? I'm a new employee, and would like to see what lists are available. Thanks, Ray Ray Pifferrer Senior Instructional Designer Training and Communications Stanford University Controller's Office 3145 Porter Drive (MC 8440) Palo Alto, CA 94304 Phone: (650) 736-2308 Fax: (650) 725-7251 Email: rayp...@stanford.edu Visit Our Web Site: Gateway to Financial Activities at http://financialgateway.stanford.edu/ http://fingate.stanford.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Admin interface not recording changes (not the FAQ)
We have mailman up and running successfully, in as far as it forwards e-mails to the list and shows the interfaces for /listinfo and /admindb. However, when I go into the web interface to configure list settings, it accepts the input but doesn't record the change when I click Submit. We're running OS X Server v10.5.8, using mailman v2.1.9. Before you leap on the redirect default e-mail, I have read the FAQ. I _did_ have a redirect going, because our root site URL was redirecting to the webmail interface for the server. I have corrected that, and restarted both the webserver and mailman. I'm now going directly to the site, but the behavior hasn't changed. (I'm sure of this, because I removed the redirect first to find out why it was there - the admin interface was failing because the root of the site was redirected to /webmail and the webadmin just redirect mailman back, which of course didn't work well. That has been resolved so there is no root site redirection any longer, and thus the mailman redirect isn't needed either and was removed as well.) I don't _think_ any of the other situations referred to in the FAQ are involved, but I'm not a UNIX/Linux guru, so I may well have missed something due to ignorance. I suspect this is may be OS X related because everything looks good in the mm_config.py and other config files (per the instructions on the mailman wiki), so I posted on my usual Mac/OSX forums as a first step, but haven't gotten any helpful answers (yet). Anyone have any ideas? I'm about ready to pull out all 3 of my remaining hairs. Thanks in advance! Signed, Matthew C. Miller IT Technician / Registrar Riverstone International School mmil...@riverstoneschool.org www.riverstoneschool.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Treat post from non-member mail addresses like join request?
Hi, this is roughly what I want to achieve, with a list that allows posts from members only: - when a member mails to list@domain, the message should be posted as usual - when a non-member mails to list@domain, this should be treated like a subscription request, i.e. as if he had mailed to list-join@domain I could not figure out how this could be achieved, and now I wonder whether it is so an unreasonable behaviour? Sure I could reject the non-member mails and in the reply tell them that another mail address must be used to join, but this would be more effort and multiple addresses to communicate. Ideally, the initial submission would be held until the sender address is confirmed and then posted to the list. I have even thought of copying all mails to post and join, but then legitimate posts would get a reply you are already subscribed for which I found no switch to suppress. Regards Markus -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] digests without 'message #n...
one of my mailing lists is sending out digests without the usual in-line separator of Message 1... Message 2... between the messages, after the Table of Contents. It is set to send MIME-type digests. for control purposes I have the Mailman default mailing list set to the same Digest options, and yet it sends digests out with the separator Message #n etc. Mailman version is 2.1.12 Thank you in advice for any help. -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Easy way to add to mail template?
I need to add an abuse statement and one other to all outbound mailman stuff. Is there a simple way to do that? Bob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Clearing Message Queue
How do I clear mailman's outgoing message queue? A message is going out to 2700 users and i need to stop it. I stopped the smtp server for the moment, but I know as soon as I turn it back on mailman will still be queuing up messages. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] command line administration.
I'm preparing for a time soon when I'll have to administer a large
active mailman list via a very limited connection (don't ask, but
thank goodness for PuTTy and internet over cel networks deep in
Brasil). I've read the FAQ 3.61 and will examine Skip Montanaro's
mmfold.py script; in the meantime I'm also re-familiarizing myself
with all the scripts in {mailman}/bin.Also am testing the mailman
GUI with command line browsers w3m, lynx, and links.
I'd be interested in hearing of experiences doing this (am running
2.1.12).
The archives on one list go back to 1994 (SmartList!) and are
extensive. Education of subscribers as to how to keep quoting to a
minimum (I contributed a module way back when to SmartList that would
kick back overquoting), top-posting, etc., have mostly been in vain -
including kicking back the postings and asking for trimming- so for
some years now I have moderation enabled, and a few times a day I
review the posts and trim them myself. It's radical but it works.
Helps as well with the search indexing for the list done every night
(used to use htdig; now using webglimpse; might switch to swish-e).
In order to edit the postings I have this in mm_cfg.py:
# this is to be able to edit held messages to kill advertising
# remember to insert blurb that msg was edited
# messages will now be held as .txt (less efficient)
HOLD_MESSAGES_AS_PICKLES = No
..and I run a command that aliases to vim path_to_held_messages/
*.txt
thanks to the maintainers and creators of Mailman.
--
Rob Lingelbach
r...@colorist.org
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[Mailman-Users] Error when list Moderator deals with pending requests
Hi All- We're running Mailman 2.1.12 on a Ubuntu server, version 9.0.4. We've run into an issue when a list moderator takes care of pending requests.what happens is when the moderator takes an action for the request and hits the Submit Data button, it throws the we hit a bug message. I looked through the error logs and found this entry which I've copied and pasted below. I'm the owner for all of our lists and I don't encounter this when I take care of the pending requests, it only happens to the moderators. Can anyone give me some insight as to what may be going on? Thanks! Mark [- Mailman Version: 2.1.12 -] admin(1475): [- Traceback --] admin(1475): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(1475): File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 112, in run_main admin(1475): main() admin(1475): File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 165, in main admin(1475): process_form(mlist, doc, cgidata) admin(1475): File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 799, in process_form admin(1475): preserve, forward, forwardaddr) admin(1475): File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 167, in HandleRequest admin(1475): forward, addr) admin(1475): File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 254, in __handlepost admin(1475): g(msg, 1) admin(1475): AttributeError: Generator instance has no __call__ method admin(1475): [- Python Information -] admin(1475): sys.version = 2.6.2 (release26-maint, Apr 19 2009, 01:56:41) [GCC 4.3.3] admin(1475): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(1475): sys.prefix = /usr admin(1475): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(1475): sys.path= /usr admin(1475): sys.platform= linux2 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception: regular_exclude_lists
Adam Nielsen wrote: I've followed the FAQ to move some lists across to a new server, but now on the new machine any message posted to a list gets passed to Mailman and then disappears. The Mailman error log says this: Sep 24 10:34:18 2009 (5311) Uncaught runner exception: regular_exclude_lists Sep 24 10:34:18 2009 (5311) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 120, in _oneloop File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 191, in _onefile File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py, line 99, in process File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py, line 157, in do_exclude File /usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 146, in __getattr__ AttributeError: regular_exclude_lists Sep 24 10:34:18 2009 (5311) SHUNTING: 1253752458.0181279+c9484331c59781f0d3cf0af775ece9b9c88a6b43 I can't find any reference to this exception, so I'm a bit stuck where to look next. Any ideas? It appears that the new server is running 2.1.10 or later with the sibling lists feature, and the old server from which the lists were moved did not have this feature, so the lists did not have the corresponding regular_exclude_lists and regular_include_lists attributes. However, that doesn't explain what is happening, because the first time the moved list is instantiated on the new server, Mailman should detect that the list's data_version is less than the installation's DATA_FILE_VERSION and update the list's attributes. So, the question is why didn't this happen, or if it did, why weren't the regular_exclude_lists and regular_include_lists attributes added? Did the old installation have patches that increased it's DATA_FILE_VERSION? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't Create New Lists for RonaldKnox.org
Anita McGing wrote: Hi - when we click on the link to create a new list http://ronaldknox.org/mailman/create, we get an error that this page cannot be displayed - no sign-in page is shown. http://ronaldknox.org/mailman/listinfo does work so this appears to be an issue with Mailman's create CGI. I note that your Mailman version is 2.1.11.cp3 (i.e. cPanel) so see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/sYA9 If this is a hosted Mailman, you will have to pursue this with the hosting service. If this is your own server, you may be able to look at the /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/cgi-bin/ directory and see if the 'create' wrapper has the same ownership and permissions as the others. You may also be able to gett additional information from the web server logs. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] not receiving pending moderator's emails
John Adamski wrote: Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new requests, as well as daily notices about collected ones? Is set to yes. Are the addresses listed in the owner and/or moderator attributes of the lists deliverable. Do you have a proper alias or whatever for the listname-owner address? What happens if you send mail to the listname-owner address? Check your MTA logs. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] have a question
barb2shop wrote: How do i use my mailing list to send out mass newsletters? Thanks Barb See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9 -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman silently discard messages
Chris Miller In my log I now see : Sep 21 16:50:13 2009 (10277) Message discarded by Approve, msgid: 4ab81105.1090...@invalid.com Approve only discards 'looping' messages. The post contains an X-BeenThere: header containing the list posting address. Either someone is replying to a list post using an MUA that leaves this header in the reply, or the post is being generated in some other way that leaves the header in. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest Headers
Bob Fishel wrote: So I recently had a member of our list ask that the headers about sending and receiving messages be put at the end of the email, and I happen to think it's a good idea as that is a standard format that people are used to seeing. However my header field is blank, though I do have a custom footer. My question is how can I move this text to the bottom of the email? In case it is unclear I've included the portion in question below. Thanks -Bob Fishel capdist-announce-requ...@dx.ayw.org wrote: Send Capdist-announce mailing list submissions to capdist-annou...@dx.ayw.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://dx.ayw.org/mailman/listinfo/capdist-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to capdist-announce-requ...@dx.ayw.org You can reach the person managing the list at capdist-announce-ow...@dx.ayw.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Capdist-announce digest... The above text is the manifest from a digest. You can't move it, but you can add a digest_footer containing the same or similar information. If you have access to the underlying installation, you can also change that text or even remove it by making an edited version of the manifest.txt template per the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/jYA9 -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with unwanted moderation
Daniel Billotte wrote: I have a list setup with all default configuration except that I have the generic nonmember action setting set to Accept. The mailing list address is: dl_supp...@foo.com. I have an email setup, supp...@foo.com, that is forwarded to dl_supp...@foo.com. If I send a message to dl_supp...@foo.com it goes out to all the members, but if I send an email to supp...@foo.com, it ends up in the moderator queue. Is this supposed to work this way? If so, is there a way to change it? Add supp...@foo.com to Privacy options... -Recipient filters - acceptable_aliases. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Users not receiving msgs (Was: Re:user support)
On Sep 16, 2009, at 10:14 PM, Florence Hutner wrote: several list members have written to me to say that they're not receiving copies of my email blasts. Three of those four members happen to have aol accounts, but the fourth does not. How can I figure out what's preventing them from receiving my listserv emails? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Which mailman version are you running? Do you have access to the server on which it runs, or access to the administrator of that server, who can check the logs of the Mail Transport Agent (usually sendmail, postfix, or exim) to see exactly what happened to the messages when delivery was attempted? regards Rob -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] List, I want to migrate from mailman 2.1.9 to mailman 2.1.12, is there any concise document on this procedure, specially the lists members and archive migration?
Ennis Ibarra wrote: Subject: [Mailman-Users] List,I want to migrate from mailman 2.1.9 to mailman 2.1.12,is there any concise document on this procedure,specially the lists members and archive migration? Mi install is: CentOS 4.6 APACHE 2 Python 2.9.6 mailman 2.1.9 sendmail 8.13 Just upgrade Mailman. That's all you need to do. The lists and archives will be taken care of automatically. If you want a document, see the first 30 lines of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/annotate/head%3A/UPGRADING. If you mean moving the lists to a new server, see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/2oA9. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about Troubleshooting Mailing List Issues
Emmett Rahl wrote: One of the administrators of our Mailing List (and I also tried it myself) tried to send out a message on one of our lists. The policy on this particular list is that any mailing list member can send out a message as long as it is under 100K in size. After a couple of hours, the message bounced back to him and it said something like Try again later. I also tried to send a message (I am also an administrator (but am not in charge of the list) and member.) and I haven't gotten any response yet myself. The Try again later. response didn't come from Mailman. It most likely came from The MTA because it doesn't know how to deliver list mail. The server that our website and the Mailman program reside on is the same, and I am able to log in and make changes to the information on our website, but I am not able to send any messages, nor do I know of a way to see if there is something wrong with Mailman (it doesn't seem to be the server...). I also checked the documentation at list.org, but there isn't anything to this effect. Who administers this server. Is it your organization or a hosting service. Whoever it is, they need to make sure that the mail server can deliver to Mailman. I am also wondering... in the future, if there is a way to manually send e-mails out to the list (i.e. from within the Mail List Administrative area)? Not from the web interface. There is a Mailman tool, bin/inject, that can queue a message for Mailman from the command line in a shell. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix Mailman VERP
Dimitrios wrote: In fact they do not , but is there a way to convince it that they do exist but in VERP style form (+ delimiter)? recipient_delimeter = + in Postfix main.cf See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)
Chris Hallo wrote: Hello! We have had enough turnover within our non-profit to the point that nobody has permissions to add new groups. We can perform membership and other management functions on the existing groups however are unable to create new ones. We receive a not authorized error message when we try. Would someone please contact me at 619-379-6322 and let me know what information is required to have either or password reset or this access given? Thank you! The Mailman site and/or list creator passwords are set with Mailman's command line tool bin/mmsitepass. You or someone with command line access to the installation can do bin/mmsitepass --help for more info. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] not receiving pending moderator's emails
Mark, The owner moderator attributes have the correct emails listed in them. I believe the aliases are all correct at least the alias file looks correct. I found this in the postfix log from yesterday when someone submitted a post: Sep 23 14:35:06 lister postfix/local[21946]: 156AF63FD5: to=lamon...@lister.graceland.edu, relay=local, delay=0.29, delays=0.11/0.03/0/0.15, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post lamoni-l) Sep 23 14:35:06 lister postfix/qmgr[6699]: 156AF63FD5: removed Sep 23 14:35:07 lister postfix/smtpd[21926]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Sep 23 14:35:07 lister postfix/smtpd[21926]: CB0FA63FD5: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] Sep 23 14:35:07 lister postfix/cleanup[21942]: CB0FA63FD5: message-id=mailman.239.1253734506.22214.lamon...@graceland.edu Sep 23 14:35:07 lister postfix/qmgr[6699]: CB0FA63FD5: from=lamoni-l-boun...@graceland.edu, size=1281, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 23 14:35:07 lister postfix/smtpd[21926]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Sep 23 14:35:07 lister postfix/smtpd[21926]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Sep 23 14:35:07 lister postfix/smtpd[21926]: DD7E063FE8: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] Sep 23 14:35:07 lister postfix/cleanup[21942]: DD7E063FE8: message-id=mailman.241.1253734506.22214.lamon...@graceland.edu Sep 23 14:35:07 lister postfix/smtpd[21926]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Sep 23 14:35:07 lister postfix/qmgr[6699]: DD7E063FE8: from=lamoni-l-boun...@graceland.edu, size=12053, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 23 14:35:08 lister postfix/smtp[21954]: CB0FA63FD5: to=cran...@graceland.edu, relay=mail.graceland.edu[10.125.3.20]:25, delay=0.3, delays=0.01/0.06/0.01/0.22, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 mailman.239.1253734506.22214.lamon...@graceland.edu Queued mail for delivery) Sep 23 14:35:08 lister postfix/qmgr[6699]: CB0FA63FD5: removed Sep 23 14:35:08 lister postfix/smtp[21961]: DD7E063FE8: to=lamoni-l-ow...@graceland.edu, relay=mail.graceland.edu[10.125.3.20]:25, delay=0.24, delays=0.01/0.03/0/0.2, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 mailman.241.1253734506.22214.lamon...@graceland.edu Queued mail for delivery) Sep 23 14:35:08 lister postfix/qmgr[6699]: DD7E063FE8: removed Sep 23 14:38:27 lister postfix/anvil[21934]: statistics: max connection rate 1/60s for (smtp:10.125.3.20) at Sep 23 14:35:06 Sep 23 14:38:27 lister postfix/anvil[21934]: statistics: max connection count 1 for (smtp:10.125.3.20) at Sep 23 14:35:06 Sep 23 14:38:27 lister postfix/anvil[21934]: statistics: max cache size 1 at Sep 23 14:35:06 Sep 23 14:52:28 lister postfix/smtpd[22634]: warning: database /etc/aliases.db is older than source file /etc/aliases Sep 23 14:52:28 lister postfix/smtpd[22634]: warning: database /etc/postfix/virtual.db is older than source file /etc/postfix/virtual Sep 23 14:52:28 lister postfix/smtpd[22634]: connect from pyrrho.graceland.edu[10.125.3.20] Sep 23 14:52:28 lister postfix/trivial-rewrite[22646]: warning: database /etc/postfix/virtual.db is older than source file /etc/postfix/virtual Sep 23 14:52:28 lister postfix/cleanup[22650]: warning: database /etc/postfix/sender_canonical.db is older than source file /etc/postfix/sender_canonical Sep 23 14:52:28 lister postfix/cleanup[22650]: warning: database /etc/postfix/virtual.db is older than source file /etc/postfix/virtual Sep 23 14:52:28 lister postfix/smtpd[22634]: EF7F963FD5: client=pyrrho.graceland.edu[10.125.3.20] Sep 23 14:52:28 lister postfix/cleanup[22650]: EF7F963FD5: message-id=6d7a71ebcd2f3f49bb90628d2969f54242377ee...@owlery.graceland.edu Sep 23 14:52:28 lister postfix/qmgr[6699]: EF7F963FD5: from=b...@graceland.edu, size=58128, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 23 14:52:29 lister postfix/local[22654]: warning: database /etc/aliases.db is older than source file /etc/aliases Sep 23 14:52:29 lister postfix/smtpd[22634]: disconnect from pyrrho.graceland.edu[10.125.3.20] There seems to be a few warning about .db files being older than their source. Which I'm not sure how that happened. John -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:51 PM To: John Adamski; 'mailman-users@python.org' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] not receiving pending moderator's emails John Adamski wrote: Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new requests, as well as daily notices about collected ones? Is set to yes. Are the addresses listed in the owner and/or moderator attributes of the lists deliverable. Do you have a proper alias or whatever for the listname-owner address? What happens if you send mail to the listname-owner address? Check your MTA logs. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ:
Re: [Mailman-Users] bouce processing problem
Dimitrios Karapiperis wrote: I have a problem regarding bounce rocessing Although I intentionally create bounce traffic with fake addresses to test the bounce processing system , verp eanabled mailing lists or not, e-mail addresses are not disabled ,beacause the bounce score by all means doesn't inccrement. I paste the output of Mark Sapiro's module get_bounce_info.py bounce info for member [e-mail protected] current score: 1.0 last bounce date: (2009, 9, 23) email notices left: 1 last notice date: (1970, 1, 2) confirmation cookie: None mailman-2.1.9-4 on a red hat enterprise 5 box. Which says a bounce was recorded on Sept 23. What's the problem? What's in the bounce log? It appears that bounce_score_threshold is not reached yet. Note that the score won't increment more than once per day. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] not receiving pending moderator's emails
John Adamski wrote: I found this in the postfix log from yesterday when someone submitted a post: Sep 23 14:35:08 lister postfix/smtp[21961]: DD7E063FE8: to=lamoni-l-ow...@graceland.edu, relay=mail.graceland.edu[10.125.3.20]:25, delay=0.24, delays=0.01/0.03/0/0.2, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 mailman.241.1253734506.22214.lamon...@graceland.edu Queued mail for delivery) The above is the notice to the owners/moderators. Why is it queued for delivery by postfix/smtp (indicating it was delivered to some other MTA)? It should be delivered to command |/path/to/mail/mailman owner lamoni-l by postfix/local. Sep 23 14:52:28 lister postfix/smtpd[22634]: warning: database /etc/aliases.db is older than source file /etc/aliases Sep 23 14:52:28 lister postfix/smtpd[22634]: warning: database /etc/postfix/virtual.db is older than source file /etc/postfix/virtual There seems to be a few warning about .db files being older than their source. Which I'm not sure how that happened. Those files were apparently updated by something and postfix's postalias and postmap commands were not run to update the .db files. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] more info
ivan messina wrote: I need to set a form, and the subriscriers will receive the mail in the order I decide (like a sequential autoresponder), so everyone will receive soon the mail N°1, two days after the registration the mail N° 2 and so on. Mailman doesn't do this. but I also need to send sometimes mail like a mailing list (for example today i wanna invite them to frre teleconference) This you can do. Mailman is a mailing list manager so it does resend posts to a mailing list. It doesn't do automatic mailings (but it will send mail generated automatically by some other process), and it doesn't filter recipients based on how long ago they subscribed. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] user support
Florence Hutner wrote: I'm not sure if I'm writing to the right place, so please tell me if I should direct this inquiry elsewhere. I'm the administrator of a mailman list written in python, and several list members have written to me to say that they're not receiving copies of my email blasts. Three of those four members happen to have aol accounts, but the fourth does not. How can I figure out what's preventing them from receiving my listserv emails? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Assuming it is only some list members not receiving posts, and assuming their delivery is enabled, see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/4oA9. This is something that has to be pursued with the recipients ISPs. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Logging admin/moderators logins
Pat Power wrote: Is there a way to log when an admin or moderator logs into a list? This would be for the purpose of logging changes. Moderator actions such as approving or rejecting posts posts are already logged in Mailman's vette log. Subscription approvals, but not all subscription actions, are logged in the subscribe log. Mass (un)subscribes are also logged in the subscribe log. List admin changes to the list configuration are not logged by Mailman, nor are admin or moderator log-ins. You could possibly extract some of this information from the web server logs. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Install problem with Mailman 2.1.11
Donald R Laster Jr wrote: I am trying to install mailmail 2.1.11 and running into problems. Log data is listed below. Any idea what might be happening? Don Slackware 13.0 system Linux suaxus 2.6.29.6-smp #2 SMP Mon Aug 17 00:52:54 CDT 2009 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux Python 2.6.2 Mailman 2.1.11 is not compatible with Python 2.6. Install 2.1.12. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] more info
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:01:59PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: ivan messina wrote: I need to set a form, and the subriscriers will receive the mail in the order I decide (like a sequential autoresponder), so everyone will receive soon the mail N°1, two days after the registration the mail N° 2 and so on. Mailman doesn't do this. However, with a bit of $scripting_language and the subscribe log (or, indeed, making the back-end of your form stash to a database), it shouldn't be too difficult to work out who's joined the list when, and then to send a mail to their email address directly. Script + messages to mail + Cron, bingo. Natch, that assumes (a) competence to script, (b) access to the logs, (c) ability to run script, (d) space to store (or fetch) the mail messages, (e) ability to create cronjobs. -- ``Who's Whom -- a sort of Who's Who for pedants.'' (Marcus Brigstocke, from `The 99p Challenge') -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman : too fast when small ressources, how to make it slower
Kevin wrote: it there a way to configure mailman to send emails to a list slower than normal ? Only by modifying the code in Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py I was thinking of sending mails per packets, for example 100 by 100, in a predifined period of time, but I haven't found how to configure mailman for that ... The only control is SMTP_MAX_RCPTS which sets the maximum number of recipients in one transaction or the VERP options which will result in one recipient per transaction, but there is no control over how fast Mailman generates messages to the MTA unless you build a delay into the code. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman : too fast when small ressources, how to make it slower
On Sep 24, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: The only control is SMTP_MAX_RCPTS which sets the maximum number of recipients in one transaction or the VERP options which will result in one recipient per transaction, but there is no control over how fast Mailman generates messages to the MTA unless you build a delay into the code. of course the MTA itself has some control over that (I speak of exim, but there should be something similar in others) - remote_max_parallel comes to mind. Rob -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] can't find mailman Archives
liulin2...@ict.ac.cn wrote: Hi,I use mailman to create a maillist named mailman, when I hit the Mailman Archives , it turn to a Mailman Archives page, but i can't find my archives, the page show:No messages have been posted to this list yet, so the archives are currently empty. You can get more information about this list. Have any messages actually been posted to the list? Is Archiving Options - archive set to Yes? in fact, i find the archive file in directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/... Are there actually messages in var/lib/mailman/archives/private/mailman/ or just the no messages index.html? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator Password doesn't Take
Kelly Piatt wrote: I have a working mail list on Mailman 2.1.11.cp3; I've set up a moderator email but it won't accept the moderator password. How do I fix this? The moderator password is the password set for the moderator in the Passwords section of the admindb interface. It has nothing to do with the moderator email address(es) or any list member password for a list member who might have the same email address as a moderator. If that doesn't answer your question, see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/sYA9. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] List of Mailman lists?
Ray Pifferrer wrote: Is there a general list of all current Mailman email lists? I'm a new employee, and would like to see what lists are available. In any particular installation, the public lists are listed at http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo or however that translates at your site. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Treat post from non-member mail addresses like joinrequest?
Markus wrote: this is roughly what I want to achieve, with a list that allows posts from members only: - when a member mails to list@domain, the message should be posted as usual - when a non-member mails to list@domain, this should be treated like a subscription request, i.e. as if he had mailed to list-join@domain You could do this with a custom handler that would be in the pipeline ahead of Moderate. It could do the same membership test as Moderate, and then if it is a non-member post, queue it in the commands queue with tojoin=1 in the metadata. You could also let the pipeline continue and hold the non-member post, but automatically approving that post when the poster becomes a member is trickier. You could make a script that checks all posts held for 'post by non-member' and if the poster is now a member, approves the post, and run that script periodically with cron. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] not receiving pending moderator's emails
I have no idea why it says queued for delivery, nor how to change that. On the aliases.db virtual.db I will see why not getting updated. John -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:54 PM To: John Adamski; 'mailman-users@python.org' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] not receiving pending moderator's emails John Adamski wrote: I found this in the postfix log from yesterday when someone submitted a post: Sep 23 14:35:08 lister postfix/smtp[21961]: DD7E063FE8: to=lamoni-l-ow...@graceland.edu, relay=mail.graceland.edu[10.125.3.20]:25, delay=0.24, delays=0.01/0.03/0/0.2, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 mailman.241.1253734506.22214.lamon...@graceland.edu Queued mail for delivery) The above is the notice to the owners/moderators. Why is it queued for delivery by postfix/smtp (indicating it was delivered to some other MTA)? It should be delivered to command |/path/to/mail/mailman owner lamoni-l by postfix/local. Sep 23 14:52:28 lister postfix/smtpd[22634]: warning: database /etc/aliases.db is older than source file /etc/aliases Sep 23 14:52:28 lister postfix/smtpd[22634]: warning: database /etc/postfix/virtual.db is older than source file /etc/postfix/virtual There seems to be a few warning about .db files being older than their source. Which I'm not sure how that happened. Those files were apparently updated by something and postfix's postalias and postmap commands were not run to update the .db files. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] digests without 'message #n...
- Original Message --- Subject: [Mailman-Users] digests without 'message #n... From: Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:32:13 -0300 To: mailman-users@python.org one of my mailing lists is sending out digests without the usual in-line separator of Message 1... Message 2... between the messages, after the Table of Contents. It is set to send MIME-type digests. MIME vs. plain format digest is a user option not a list option. The list option only sets the default for new users. Plain format digests have messages inline separated by the RFC 1153 separator line (30 hyphens) followed by selected headers and the scrubbed message body. MIME format digests have each message as a separate MIME message/rfc822 part with partial headers and the MIME message body. The Message: n line is aadded by digest processing as a message header. Which headers appear in plain and MIME format digests is controled by the settings MIME_DIGEST_KEEP_HEADERS and PLAIN_DIGEST_KEEP_HEADERS, both of which include Message: by default. However, what you actually see in the MIME format digest depends almost entirely on the MUA used to view it. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] not receiving pending moderator's emails
John Adamski wrote: I have no idea why it says queued for delivery, nor how to change that. The Postfix whose log excerpt you posted is not delivering mail to Mailman. It received this message from mailman Sep 23 14:35:08 lister postfix/smtp[21961]: DD7E063FE8: to=lamoni-l-ow...@graceland.edu, relay=mail.graceland.edu[10.125.3.20]:25, delay=0.24, delays=0.01/0.03/0/0.2, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 mailman.241.1253734506.22214.lamon...@graceland.edu Queued mail for delivery) and relayed it to mail.graceland.edu for delivery to the graceland.edu domain. Whether this is the correct behavior or not depends on whether mail.graceland.edu knows how to deliver this mail to Mailman and whether that is what you want. If this is not correct, it is a Postfix configuration issue. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy way to add to mail template?
Hicks, Robert CTR I need to add an abuse statement and one other to all outbound mailman stuff. Is there a simple way to do that? Set it as msg_header or msg_footer for non-digest and digest_header or digest_footer for digests. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Clearing Message Queue
Tony Zielinski wrote on Thu, 17 Sep 2009 How do I clear mailman's outgoing message queue? A message is going out to 2700 users and i need to stop it. I stopped the smtp server for the moment, but I know as soon as I turn it back on mailman will still be queuing up messages. I think we talked about this on the #mailman irc channel. IIRC, I mentioned stopping Mailman and examining/removing entries from the out/ and/or retry/ queues and you determined that the delivery had all gotten to the MTA anyway. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when list Moderator deals with pendingrequests
Mark Ryan wrote: We're running Mailman 2.1.12 on a Ubuntu server, version 9.0.4. We've run into an issue when a list moderator takes care of pending requests.what happens is when the moderator takes an action for the request and hits the Submit Data button, it throws the we hit a bug message. I looked through the error logs and found this entry which I've copied and pasted below. I'm the owner for all of our lists and I don't encounter this when I take care of the pending requests, it only happens to the moderators. Can anyone give me some insight as to what may be going on? Yes. This is a Python 2.6 incompatibility in 2.1.12. It only occurs when the moderators do the approval because only the moderators are checking the 'Preserve messages for the site administrator' checkbox when handling messages. (You might want to check Mailman's spam/ directory to see how many preserved messages are there.) Here is a patch to fix the incompatibility. --- Mailman/ListAdmin.py2008-09-21 18:59:44 + +++ Mailman/ListAdmin.py2009-08-01 00:40:36 + @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -# Copyright (C) 1998-2008 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. +# Copyright (C) 1998-2009 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or # modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License @@ -202,7 +202,7 @@ cPickle.dump(msg, fp, 1) else: g = Generator(fp) -g(msg, 1) +g.flatten(msg, 1) fp.flush() os.fsync(fp.fileno()) finally: @@ -251,7 +251,7 @@ outfp = open(outpath, 'w') try: g = Generator(outfp) -g(msg, 1) +g.flatten(msg, 1) finally: outfp.close() # Now handle updates to the database -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Python compatibility - was: command line administration.
Rob Lingelbach wrote: In order to edit the postings I have this in mm_cfg.py: # this is to be able to edit held messages to kill advertising # remember to insert blurb that msg was edited # messages will now be held as .txt (less efficient) HOLD_MESSAGES_AS_PICKLES = No I have nothing to add to the subject topic, but I just want to point out that the Python 2.6.x incompatibility I mention in the post at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-September/067223.html also affects holding messages when HOLD_MESSAGES_AS_PICKLES = No. Just for information, Mailman versions older than 2.1.12 are incompatible with Python 2.6.x. Mailman 2.1.12 was intended to be fully compatible with Python 2.6.x, but we missed one change which only affects preserving messages for the admin from the admindb interface and holding messages as text files. A patch for this issue is in the above post. This does not affect Mailman 2.1.12 when used with Python 2.4.x or 2.5.x. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/pYA9 for more detail. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Python compatibility - was: command line administration.
On Sep 24, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: out that the Python 2.6.x incompatibility I mention in the post at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-September/067223.html also affects holding messages when HOLD_MESSAGES_AS_PICKLES = No. thanks for mentioning this, I'm still running python 2.5.1 and will be sure to apply the patch if I go to 2.5.1. -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman silently discard messages
Chris Miller wrote:
In this case we have an email address hosted by Google's business mail
services, that forwards to the Mailman list on a remote server.
http://lists.nextspace.us/mailman/admin/nextspace-chatter/?VARHELP=privacy/recipient/acceptable_aliases
I setup a test forwarded and confirmed that Google is in fact added the
X-BeenThere: header. I'm assuming that Google just added this header a
few days ago, since the list worked fine before that.
http://lists.nextspace.us/mailman/admin/nextspace-chatter/?VARHELP=privacy/recipient/acceptable_aliases
Also email sent to the list's local address (not routed via Google) work
just fine.
Are you sure it is Google adding this header. I get mail forwarded from
Google mail and the only headers of this type it adds are
X-Forwarded-To: m...@msapiro.net
X-Forwarded-For: msap...@value.net m...@msapiro.net
We have *require_explicit_destination* set, with the Google hosted
email address
http://lists.nextspace.us/mailman/admin/nextspace-chatter/?VARHELP=privacy/recipient/require_explicit_destination
listed in the *acceptable_aliases*.
http://lists.nextspace.us/mailman/admin/nextspace-chatter/?VARHELP=privacy/recipient/acceptable_aliases
I disabled *require_explicit_destination*
http://lists.nextspace.us/mailman/admin/nextspace-chatter/?VARHELP=privacy/recipient/require_explicit_destination
and removed the acceptable aliases, however the problem still exists.
require_explicit_destination is processed by the Hold handler. Approve
has deleted the message long before it gets there.
I'm not certain I'm reading the code correctly, but it appears that
Mailman (version 2.1.5) is only looking for the presence of the
X-BeenThere: header, not comparing the contents to the list address :
/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Approve.py:
# has this message already been posted to this list?
beentheres = [s.strip().lower() for s in msg.get_all('x-beenthere', [])]
if mlist.GetListEmail().lower() in beentheres:
raise Errors.LoopError
This code is correct. It says make a list, beentheres, of the values of
all the X-BeenThere: headers of the message (lower cased and stripped
of leading and trailing whitespace). Then if this list's posting
address (lower cased) is in that beentheres list raise the LoopError
exception which results in the message being discarded.
Thoughts?
It seems really strange that Google would add an X-BeenThere: header
with the forward-to address, but if in fact they are, you have to take
this up with them.
You could remove the code you quote above from Approve.py, but then you
run the risk of mail bombing the list if there is a real loop.
You could also change the name of the header from X-BeenThere to say
X-X-BeenThere. to do that, you would replace 'x-beenthere' in the code
you quote above from Approve.py with 'x-x-beenthere' and change the
line
msg['X-BeenThere'] = mlist.GetListEmail()
in Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py to
msg['X-X-BeenThere'] = mlist.GetListEmail()
You'd also need to change 'x-beenthere' to 'x-x-beenthere' one place in
cron/gate_news if you are doing any usenet to Mailman gatewaying.
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San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
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