[Mailman-Users] Re: Apache/mailman2 on RHEL8.2

[Jim Tittsler]

On 2020-09-09 7:35 a.m., Steven Jones wrote:

I get the default page OK but when I follow the link,

"List administrators, you can visit the list admin overview page to find the 
management interface for your list."

I get,

Not Found


Are there virtual domains involved on that server?  Is the *host* (and 
protocol) part of that link correct?  (If you or the Redhat installation 
script changed URL names part way through the installation process, you 
may need to use fix_url.py to correct links within the web interface. 
 )

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Truncating Archives up to a specific date

[Jim Tittsler]

On 08/17/2016 05:31 AM, Jewel Brueggeman-Makda wrote:
> I am wanting to shrink the archives on my lists. I only want to keep archives
> for the last 2 or 3 years.  Is there a script that will do this?  What are
> the steps to truncating and rebuilding an archive?

Mark Sapiro has written a script that will prune older messages from an
archive, and then rebuild the HTML archives:
  https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/prune_arch

You can do it by hand by editing the mbox file for the list (typically
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/{listname}.mbox/{listname}.mbox) to
remove the messages you no longer want to keep, and then rebuild the
HTML archives with "arch --wipe {listname}" Be careful to maintain file
permissions during the process.

There are more details in the Mailman FAQ:
  https://wiki.list.org/x/4030681



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Re: [Mailman-Users] -owner being appended to welcome or goodbye recipients

[Jim Tittsler]

On 08/11/2016 06:49 PM, Steve wrote:
> Am I correct in thinking that with mailman 2.x, the only real way to set
> these kinds of settings at the command line is to use config_list, spit
> on the config, make the changes and re-import it?

Or use bin/withlist, which is handy if you want to script changes across
many lists.  (Run it with no args for details, or search the Mailman FAQ
for some examples.)




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Re: [Mailman-Users] qfiles/bounces

[Jim Tittsler]

On Oct 14, 2005, at 07:29, Doc Schneider wrote:

 Oct 13 17:12:27 2005 qrunner(20618):  time.strftime('%d-%b-%Y',
 day + (0,)*6))
 Oct 13 17:12:27 2005 qrunner(20618): ValueError :  day of year  
 out  of
 range

 And it bombed.

 Any ideas on what is happening?



 Python 2.4 and Mailman 2.1.5.

 Upgrade Mailman to 2.1.6 or downgrade Python to 2.3.



 Python 2.4.1 and MM 2.1.4 here.

 I'll try downgrading python

Or patch your Mailman installation to follow Python 2.4's stricter  
rules.

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-March/043640.html


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Fw: can't get replies back from list mailing...

[Jim Tittsler]

On Oct 12, 2005, at 14:25, Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote:
 My MTA, exim4, does seem to get the mail out, but can't get it back  
 in to
 the right place. Obviously, I run Mutt and it works fine, in both
 directions, just not in feeding the email to the various MM lists  
 on my
 system.

If the problem is with mail to aliases other than the bare listname,  
double check the local_part_suffixes in your Mailman router in your  
Exim configuration.

 I notice that in some of my lists, I click on the Archives, and see  
 messages
 from several months back, while with others, for example, newer  
 lists, there
 is no archive, but instead this error message:

 Not Found

Is the difference between those lists with public and private  
archives?  (If so, and it is the public archives that are missing,  
make sure you have your web server configured to have the option  
FollowSymLinks, at least for your mailman/archives/public tree.)

 I read the archives at the mailman site at times, and notice the  
 site is
 magically able to list communications 20 years into the future, a  
 la ...

 April 2024:
 June 2013:

 Any idea how those folks at Mailman can see so far into the future?  
 I'd bet

By changing ARCHIVER_CLOBBER_DATE_POLICY in your mm_cfg.py you can  
avoid relying on the user supplied Date:.  Setting it to '2' allows  
only munging the date if it is outside the limits defined by the  
ARCHIVER_ALLOWABLE_SANE_DATE_SKEW variable.  (See the documentation  
in your Defaults.py file.)



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce probe question

[Jim Tittsler]

On 2005-08-24 21:30, Lorenz Adena wrote:
 since i really would like this as an option is there any way to prevent
 mailman (2.1.5) from sending list probes to the members who have reached
 the lists bounce threshold? I do not want to disablem bounce probing in
 general, just for some lists.

You can set bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings to 0 for the lists where 
you want the bouncing subscribers to be immediately unsubscribed. 
(See the Bounce Processing page of the web administrative interface.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] SErver made a boo boo

[Jim Tittsler]

On 2005-08-23 15:56, plaza c wrote:
 Im trying to access the links after the mailing list is created. The
 email is comming properly to my email id,when im trying to access the
 links the apache server is giving an error.
 
 Servre made a boo boo???what is this error ,im using mailman
 2.1.6 and postfix along with apache.

It sounds like the default Apache 500 ErrorDocument.  (You can check 
your Apache configuration to find out which error code is producing 
that text.)

You will want to double-check your Apache configuration for Mailman. 
Check things like having the proper ScriptAlias directive and path, 
having the cgi module loaded, having the right permissions and group 
ownership on the Mailman files (see Mailman's 'check_perms -f').  More 
clues may be found in Apache's error log.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to enable printing aliases info to the screen

[Jim Tittsler]

On 2005-08-18 22:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tried to make it this way 
 #./newlist mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] qwerty
 but the aliases info won't print out on the screen.
  
 I know that this info goes to /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases, but

That suggests you have set MTA = 'Postfix' in your mm_cfg.py.  If you 
set it to 'Manual' the aliases will be displayed for manual manipulation.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Secure the admin pages

[Jim Tittsler]

On 2005-08-18 23:14, Mike Hanby wrote:
 Howdy, does anyone know if it's possible to secure the admin pages with an
 .htaccess type security?
[...]
 Ex:  http://www.mydomain.com/mailman/admin/mailinglist
 
 Going to this page would pop up an Apache login prompt.  If successful, then
 the page would load where they would then have to log in using mailman's
 List Administrator Password.

You could use a FilesMatch directive to restrict access to the cgi 
scripts you were interested in:

FilesMatch (admin|admindb|create|edithtml|rmlist)
   AuthName Mailman
   [...]
   require valid-user
/FilesMatch

(Or a LocationMatch directive in your Apache configuration.)

Jim

P.S.  Your message might get more attention if you sent a new message 
to the mailing list rather than hijacking an existing thread (as you 
did by replying to a different message and simply changing the 
subject).  People that browse the list by thread might not see your 
message the way you have done it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] confirm for one list errors, other list works

[Jim Tittsler]

On 2005-08-19 00:01, Anne Ramey wrote:
 I added a new list to my mailman yesterday (cplist), and copied the 
 config over from another list (mbalist).  Subscribe comfirmations to 
 cplist fail if you reply to the mail with Invalid confirmation 
 string:, but the link inside the mail works fine.  The reply to the 
 subscribe confirmation for the other list (mbalist) works fine.  I'm 
 using mailman 2.1 on linux.  Any idea what might be causing this?

Do the confirmation requests come from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Did you remember to create the cplist aliases?  (Especially the 
cplist-request alias pointing at |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman 
request cplist and not mbalist.)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Time shown in the log

[Jim Tittsler]

On 2005-08-18 19:39, Webmaster Travel In Spain wrote:
 I was wondering if the duration shown in the smtp log file of mailman was the 
 time mailman spent on the sending (I mean working on this particular task) or 
 the difference time between the begining of the sending and the end.

It is the clock time in seconds required for Mailman to deliver the 
message to your SMTPHOST from where the messages will be (eventually) 
delivered to your subscribers.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe Options

[Jim Tittsler]

On Aug 16, 2005, at 10:24, Bob Morgan wrote:
 [...]
 second system, I'd like to be able to unsubscribe _without_ going  
 to the
 http://domain.org/mailman/options/maillist_domain.org page.  I'd  
 like for
 the unsubscribing user to simple get their Email and reply to the  
 Email to
 get fully unsubscribed.

Your users should be able to unsubscribe by mailing to the listname- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] address with the Subject: unsubscribe (as  
indicated in the headers of each of the list messages).  They can  
also mail to listname-unsubscribe or listname-leave addresses.

   Shortof being able to do this, I'd like to be able
 to customize the /options/ page to make it more user friendly;  
 however, I
 don't know how to do that.

If know a way to make it more user friendly, you can edit the options  
page for your list using the administrative web interface.  Beneath  
the Edit the public HTML pages and text files item of the Other  
Administrative Actions list you will find a link that will let you  
edit the User specific options page.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Privacy and Headers

[Jim Tittsler]

On Aug 16, 2005, at 02:18, R J Ladyman wrote:

 The headers expose the sender address and domain (the message-ID  
 does the
 latter, of course), which makes the 'hide sender...' option a bit  
 confusing.

Your users could configure their MUAs not to put specific information  
in their message IDs.  :-)

 Could you give me some pointers to the relevant Mailman files I  
 would need to
 modify for the changes you suggested? Note that I'm not worried about
 preserving threading, or more correctly, the anonymisation requirement

You could modify Mailman/Headers/Cleanse.py to strip/modify the  
Message-Id header.

I would worry about generating mail loops with badly designed auto  
responders (especially if they don't preserve Mailman's 'been-there'  
header).

(Note that the Scrubber stage of the message pipeline bases its hash  
on the Message-Id, so it might be better to add a custom stage  
earlier in the pipeline to remove the Message-Id and generate a new  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] who question

[Jim Tittsler]

On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 07:52:08PM -0400, Bob Morgan wrote:
 I have a small test list with just four entries.  I tried to test the who 
 command by sending an Email to
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 with the subject
 
  who admpassword
 
 and got the following response:
[...]
  who
  See everyone who is on this mailing list.

The help suggests your list is configured to have a public
roster.  Did you try sending simply 'who' rather than including
a password argument?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] How can our MM site admin see unadvertised lists via web interface?

[Jim Tittsler]

On Aug 12, 2005, at 03:08, Michael Regoli wrote:

 As you know, when your list reaches a certain threshold, it begins
 grouping the subscribers by letter of the alphabet.  Is there a way to
 see ALL subscribers via the web admin interface?

You can set DEFAULT_ADMIN_MEMBER_CHUNKSIZE to a large number (or set  
admin_member_chunksize using withlist or configlist to just change it  
for certain lists).  This can have performance problems building/ 
downloading very large pages.

You can also use a script to drive the web interface to collect all  
of the chunks and build it into a complete subscriber list.  An  
example of this technique is available at http://starship.python.net/ 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest Mode

[Jim Tittsler]

On Aug 12, 2005, at 03:40, Michael LaFarr wrote:

 I would like to set up a list that does not give the user the
 choice of how they will receive messages (individually or grouped).  I
 would like to configure the list so that when I approve incoming  
 messages,
 all messages will all be sent grouped in one email rather than  
 separate
 emails.

As you've stated the problem, there isn't an existing automated way  
to do it.  Digests are typically configured to be sent periodically  
(by a cron job that by default runs once per day).

However, you could:
- set nondigestable=No on the non-digest options page to prevent  
users from subscribing to individual messages
- you may want to increase digest_size_threshold if you really want  
all approved messages to be in a single digest
- after you have approved the messages, manually run:
~mailman/cron/senddigests -l listname
to force the delivery of a digest at that time (or wait for the  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with mailman user account creation confirmation

[Jim Tittsler]

On Aug 11, 2005, at 23:22, Abid Ghufran wrote:

 When a user visits the web site (page) of the created mailing list and
 registers his email address, he is supposed to get an email for
 confirmation. This does not happen.

It sounds like Mailman is having trouble sending to your local mail  
server.  (Or if you are using Mailman 2.1 you forgot to start it.  Or  
for Mailman 2.0 you forgot to add the required crontab entries.)

 Further, if I (mailing list admin) register a user (his email address)
 through the admin interface of mailman and then the user tries to  
 send an
 email to the list, the mail is bounced stating that the user does  
 not
 exist. Here the user is the name of the mailing list.

Your mail server is not recognizing your mailing list alias(es).  (Or  
if you are using one of the mail server configurations that  
automatically detects list presence and routes mail directly... there  
is a setup problem there.)

You should start by searching the Mailman FAQ for hints on how to get  
more information so you can solve these problems.  In particular  
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] NNTP errors

[Jim Tittsler]

On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 01:18:51PM -0400, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
 I made these changes and it seemed okay - until this morning where I 
 started getting these errors again:

Again?  (This is not the same error as the one you asked about
on the 6th.)

 /opt/m1/mailman-1.0/cron/gate_news, line 103, in open_newsgroup
 Aug 08 03:35:00 2005 gate_news(5366):  password=mm_cfg.NNTP_PASSWORD)
 Aug 08 03:35:00 2005 gate_news(5366):   File 
 /usr/local/lib/python2.4/nntplib.py, line 150, in __init__
 Aug 08 03:35:00 2005 gate_news(5366):  resp = 
 self.shortcmd('authinfo user '+user)
 Aug 08 03:35:00 2005 gate_news(5366):   File 
 /usr/local/lib/python2.4/nntplib.py, line 260, in shortcmd
 Aug 08 03:35:00 2005 gate_news(5366):  return self.getresp()

It looks like you have defined an NNTP_USERNAME in your mm_cfg.py
but your news server is not responding after Mailman (via
Python's nntplib) sends the 'authinfo user '+user command to
start logging in.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman error when sending to test-subscribe

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On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 04:31:24PM -0500, Mike Hanby wrote:
 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=1, status=bounced
 (Command died with status 2: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
 test. Command output: /usr/bin/python: can't open file
 '/usr/local/mailman/scripts/subscribe' )

   I looked in /usr/local/mailman/scripts and sure enough that script
 isn't there!

It should be.  :-)

 MY CONFIGURATION:
 
 I installed from source using the configure command:
 
   ./configure --with-mail-gid=nogroup

And then did 'make', and then as root 'make install'?

It looks like your installation isn't complete or the
/usr/local/mailman/scripts/subscribe file would exist.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with editing listinfo page

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On Aug 9, 2005, at 05:09, Jane Hermanson wrote:

 I made an error creating a list and would like to delete it or  
 atleast edit
 the listinfo page so the list error link does not show.  I have  
 read much
 documentation and have tried what is suggested and searched for the  
 html
 page but to no avail.

If your site administrator has set OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS  
= Yes then there should be a Delete this mailing list option under  
the Other Administrative Activities section at the top right of the  
list's admin web pages.

The site administrator can also remove the list from the command line  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Vacation Setting for multiple lists.

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On 2005/08/05 10:27, Martin Rheumer wrote:
 Lets say I was stupid enough to create 40 odd internal lists
 and now wanted to set a vacation setting for myself on all
 40 lists. Is there a command line tool / way to say
 
 vacation [EMAIL PROTECTED] all lists ?

bin/withlist with its '-a' option can be used to set a particular member 
to nomail status.

http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg24479.html
(although in your case, you probably want the except clause to be simply:
 except NotAMemberError:
 pass

Then do:
$ bin/withlist -l -a -r nomail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [Mailman-Users] NNTP errors

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On Aug 6, 2005, at 02:50, Forrest Aldrich wrote:

   Aug 03 01:05:01 2005 gate_news(16582):  self.welcome =
 self.shortcmd('mode reader')
 Aug 03 01:05:01 2005 gate_news(16582):   File
 /usr/local/lib/python2.4/nntplib.py, line 2
 60, in shortcmd
 Aug 03 01:05:01 2005 gate_news(16582):  return self.getresp()
 Aug 03 01:05:01 2005 gate_news(16582):   File
 /usr/local/lib/python2.4/nntplib.py, line 2
 15, in getresp

It looks like your news server doesn't respond to the 'mode reader'  
command.  Try changing 'readermode=True' to 'readermode=False' in the  
nntplib.NNTP() call of cron/gate_news.

(If that makes this error go away, I would expect you would also need  
to change it in Mailman/Queue/NewsRunner.py.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help in setting up Regular Expressions

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On Aug 6, 2005, at 12:24, ajit k jena wrote:

 I administer a few mailing lists. I have been struggling to
 setup regular expressions to allow people to subscribe (and
 may be post) from specfic address patterns.

My first impression is that it would be better to do this in your MTA  
than mailman.  If nobody outside your domain can subscribe or post,  
you could just make Mailman invisible to them.

 SUBSCRIPTION :

 I wish that people with address pattern [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 def@dept.iitb.ac.in (where dept is a department such as
 phy, cc, che, chem, ee  etc) to be able to send
 subscription requests to this list. All others must be
 automatically discarded.

I don't believe you can do this without changing the code.  While you  
might use a negative lookahead assertion in a regular expression in  
Subscription rules ban_list, the unwanted subscriptions are rejected  
with a notice rather than being quietly discarded.

 POSTING :

 Similarly, while posting, only members post without moderator's
 intervention. For postings that come from non-members the
 following should happen:

   a) Non-member address pattern confirming to the scheme
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and def@dept.iitb.ac.in should be
  held up for moderator's approval.

   b) Non-member address pattern not confirming to the
  above patterns get discarded.

The Sender filters hold_these_nonmemembers and  
discard_these_nonmembers settings are checked in order, so I believe  
you could use [EMAIL PROTECTED]@(.+\.)?iitb\.ac\.in and ^.* respectively for 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Cleaning out lists of users

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On Aug 4, 2005, at 03:37, Ken Carter wrote:

 Thanks everyone... got the job done.  However I think I'll script a
 combination of the find and remove_members to remove an email address
 from all lists in one stroke from a file. If I get it working well  
 I'll
 be sure to post the script for yawl.

If you wanted to live that dangerously, it might be easier to just  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttle outbound mail delivery restricted to 200 per hour, Bounce

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On Aug 4, 2005, at 12:16, Chuck G wrote:

 Is it possible to Throttle outbound mail delivery in Mailman

Mailman does not support limiting the rate messages are delivered.
   http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman help

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On Aug 4, 2005, at 13:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I switched hosting companies and my new company  does not
 support mailman. My database files are still there but I cannot access
 mailman.. I need to get my list transfered to a txt file but not  
 sure how to do  it..
 Mailman is disable so all i have is the files in the file manager...

The easiest way is to install Mailman somewhere and then use the  
list_members tool.

Alternatively, you could recover the subscriber email addresses  
fairly easily just by using Python on your local computer to open the  
pickled copy of the list configuration.  Something like (meaning,  
untested mail client code :-):

import cPickle
m = cPickle.load(open('config.pck', 'rb'))
for member in m['members']:
 print member
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unknown local-part error

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On Aug 4, 2005, at 21:15, Steve Barr wrote:

 I created a list named mad-mail-admin.  The list created fine, and I
 received the e-mail stating that the list was created.  When I send a
 message to that list, I get an error in my Exim log that says:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unknown local-part mad-mail-admin in  
 domain
 example.net

-admin had special meaning with Mailman 2.0.  If you are using  
Mailman 2.1, you can remove -admin from the list of suffixes that the  
mailman router checks for.

I still try to avoid using -admin in list names because of  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman installation

[Jim Tittsler]

On Aug 2, 2005, at 16:48, Mohammad Moghimi wrote:

 checking Python version... 2.4
 checking that Python has a working distutils... configure: error:

 * Distutils is not available or is incomplete for /usr/bin/python
 * If you installed Python from RPM (or other package manager)
 * be sure to install the -devel package, or install Python
 * from source. See README.LINUX for details

 I downloaded Distutil from python.org http://python.org/
 http://www.python.org/sigs/distutils-sig/download/ 
 Distutils-1.0.2.tar.gz

That is a rather old version of distutils.  A working version should  
have been included in your Python 2.4 installation.  (As the error  
message says, it is often installed in a separate package if you  
installed Python in package form.)  Check again that your Python 2.4  
installation is complete (and that you have included the -devel  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] web stuff for mailman

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On 2005/07/30 08:50, Sean Roe wrote:
 When I click on it, it goes to:
 
 http://lists.adoption.com/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/test_mag
 
 which doesn't work.it keeps sticking /cgi-bin/ in front of all the 
 links it generates.  I have tried different iterations of mm_cfg.py
 
 DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman'
 
 and it still doesn't work.  So how do I fix this?

DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'

1. After making a configuration change that affects the URL, remember 
that you need to run fix_url to update existing lists:
   bin/withlist -l -r fix_url test_mag

2. Make sure DEFAULT_URL is still set to None.  (At least one packager 
used to change it.)

3. Did you restart Mailman?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest Sending Questions

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On Jul 28, 2005, at 21:03, David Scribner wrote:

 Also, I don't see anything where I can set the time that a Daily
 Digest is sent out.  On my current LetterRipPro list server I have
 the Digests for the lists that have a digest option to send for each
 list at a different time, actually about a half an hour apart just to
 lessen the amount of out-going traffic when the Digests get sent.  Is
 it possible to do that same with Mailman?

Yes, by configuring the cron job that sends out the digests.  The  
typical mailman installation uses a single cron task that invokes  
senddigests with no arguments, which causes it to generate periodic  
digests for *all* of the lists that have them enabled.  To stagger  
the digest generation, cause senddigests to be invoked with the -l (-- 
listname) switch to specify individual lists:

0 7 * * *  /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/ 
senddigests -l list1
30 7 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/ 
senddigests -l list2
0 8 * * *  /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/ 
senddigests -l list3

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.5 - FQDN Question

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On Jul 21, 2005, at 15:38, Cogley, Rick wrote:
 # NOTE: bug with quotes
 # add_virtualhost('DEFAULT_URL_HOST', 'DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST')
 add_virtualhost('www.domainofmine.net', 'domainofmine.net')

Note that DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST are variable names  
not strings, and so should not have been quoted:

DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.example.com'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'example.com'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

 I dug around some more and was able to find out how to fix the  
 symptoms. If
 I run fix_url on the lists, they appear in the web interface.

Any time you do something that changes the URL, you need to use  
fix_url to update existing lists.

 However, can anyone tell me why lists created in the web interface  
 default
 to www.domainofmine.net but lists created from the command line  
 default to
 localhost.localdomain? Of course, I can just run fix_url after  
 every list
 creation in the shell script, but, is there a template somewhere  
 that I
 can use to set it to use www.domainofmine.net for all lists?

I would guess that there is a value being added to the VIRTUAL_HOSTS  
dictionary in your Defaults.py that has the wrong DEFAULT_URL_HOST.   
'clear'ing it in your mm_cfg.py allows you to be explict about the  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to hide/disable user options?

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On 2005/07/16 01:29, Mike Flaherty wrote:
 I am looking to make it so that subscribers can not change their settings,
 however I do still want them to be able to unsubscribe when they want.

You can edit the options.html template to not present some/all of the 
settings to the user, but a clever/devious user could still submit the 
appropriate values unless you change Mailman/Cgi/options.py

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(You can prevent the user from signing up for a digest by not making the 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Config problem - hostname issues

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On Jul 19, 2005, at 03:39, Forrest Aldrich wrote:

 I've set up in the mm_cfg.py:

 DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'externalhost.com'
 DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.externalhost.com'
 add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

You may need to add:
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
just before the add_virtualhost() call.

 [...] Yet, still, the URLs in the resulting admin page from mailman  
 have:

Remember that to update URLs in existing lists, you need to run  
~mailman/bin/fix_url.py (It is done with bin/withlist.  Run  
fix_url.py with no arguments for details, or check the FAQ for more  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting Sender Name

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On Jul 19, 2005, at 09:00, Tim Arney wrote:

 For my mailing list, I have it set so that the senders email  
 address is
 masked with the list address.  So for example, I presume if you  
 receive a
 digest of this list then it would come from mailman- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], not
 something like Mailman Users mailman-users@python.org.  Does  
 that clear
 up my problem?

If you update to Mailman 2.1.6 (or at least replace your old Mailman/ 
Handlers/Cleanse.py with the current one (which you could fetch from  
CVS)), Mailman will use the 'description' field (of the General  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Members get Post by non-member to a members-only list

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James wrote:
 I get a bounce from a test list that my message is being held because
 Post by non-member to a members-only list.
 
 I can't find anything wrong in mm_cfg.py, and I've double checked my
 membership in the list -- it looks fine, I'm a member.

Did you set USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER to Yes?  That checks the SMTP envelope 
sender for list membership, rather than (the more easily forged) From: 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to copy settings from one mailing list to other mailing list?

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James wrote:
 Is there an easy way to copy all of the settings (language perf,
 general options etc) from one mailing list to other mailing list?

You can use ~mailman/bin/config_list with the -o switch to save the 
format of a list in an text (editable) format.  You can remove 
list-specific items from the resulting text file, and then use 
config_list's -i switch to import the configuration information for 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Change Name In Posts

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On 07/15/2005 09:52 AM, [ Dhruv ] wrote:
 I would like to have the From address for posters so that it goes as ::
 
 From: Dhruv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 What i want to do is ensure that people know the name of the poster but not 
 the mail id.

I don't know of a way to do this with Mailman out of the box.

However, if you think of Mailman as a mailing list construction set, you 
could build a custom pipeline stage that did it.  (Steal some of the 
code from the Cleanse.py pipeline stage's anonomizing section, but pull 
the name from the From: header before deleting the original one.)

Each list can have its own custom pipeline.  Use bin/withlist to add a 
.pipeline object based on the mm_cfg.GLOBAL_PIPELINE, but with your new
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Re: [Mailman-Users] autoresponse to non members

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On 07/15/2005 10:07 AM, James wrote:
 I can remember how to setup and edit a message that goes to
 non-members that are trying to email a list. I need to enable this
 message, and customize it...

To change the automatic rejection message text, set the 
nonmember_rejection_notice text (on the Privacy Options... Sender 
Filters page, just below where you set what should happen to non-member 
postings).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] no subject prefix

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On Jul 12, 2005, at 15:52, Julian Ohm wrote:

 I'm using Mailman 2.1.6 and have a problem with the subject prefix.
 mailman doesent change the subject and i'm not able to fix that  
 problem

Did you set DELIVERY_MODULE to 'Sendmail' in your mm_cfg.py (rather  
than the *strongly* recommended 'SMTPDirect')?  The Subject prefix is  
not added when using the 'Sendmail' module.

(As the header of Sendmail.py warns, that module is not intended for  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] no subject prefix

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On Jul 12, 2005, at 18:43, Julian Ohm wrote:

 Jim Tittsler wrote:

 Did you set DELIVERY_MODULE to 'Sendmail' in your mm_cfg.py (rather
 than the *strongly* recommended 'SMTPDirect')?  The Subject prefix is
 not added when using the 'Sendmail' module.

Sorry, this is bogus.  (It is the msg_footer/header that are not  
added in the SMTPDirect case, so not relevant to your problems.)

The Reply-To: munging and the Subject: prefixing should both be  
happening in CookHeaders.  The subject prefixing is different based  
on the character set used for the list, but the reply-to munging  
isn't, so I can't think of a reason that fits both your symptoms.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrative requests oddity

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On Jul 12, 2005, at 08:13, Mike Avery wrote:

 However, some of them put characters in the subject thats out of the
 usual ascii range.  Something like,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 And then when I try to deal with the message, Mailman gives me error
 messages.  It said,
[...]
 admin(82489): Logger.write(self, %s %s % (prefix, msg))
 admin(82489):   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py,
 line 91, in
  write
 admin(82489): f.write(msg)
 admin(82489): UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in
 range(128)

You may want to try applying the patch that was described on Mailman- 
Developers (and IRC) last week.  It looks like it may fit your symptom.
   http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re-creating lost mailman archives from GMail account using Gmail API

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On Jul 11, 2005, at 19:42, Alias wrote:

 Now - without getting too much into the details of how the python side
 of things would work, does anyone know how I would go about
 re-creating the archives? [...] Or, better still, is there an existing
 script/utility/commandline switch that I could just run on a directory
 of email files?

The ~mailman/bin/arch script will rebuild the archives given the  
messages in a standard Unix mbox format file.  (Run 'bin/arch --help'  
for more info.  It will explain that typically the mbox will be in  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list itself

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On Jul 10, 2005, at 00:59, Jim wrote:

 Whenever I try to go to the admin section of it I just get shoved back
 to the listinfo screen.

 After several false starts I've narrowed the problem down to a problem
 with the case of the word mailman in the html code.

 For example, if I go to http://192.168.1.1/mailman/admin/Mailman it  
 works!!!

It sounds like you have a rewrite or redirection rule in your Apache  
configuration that matches too generously.  It may be intended to  
redirect people who visit http://www.example.com/mailman to the  
general listinfo page.  You need to make sure that it doesn't also  
match http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/mailman.  Try something like:

RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo

The ^ and $ signs are important to anchor the match at the beginning  
of the path and to keep it from matching other trailing mailman  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] A problem with Your new mailing list emails

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On Jul 9, 2005, at 00:49, Richard Hobbs wrote:

 I have noticed another small problem with the Your new mailing list
 emails, and the web page it redirects you to after creation of a  
 list... The
 URL's are missing a slash:

 
 You can configure your mailing list at the following web page:

 http://mail.domain/cgi-bin/mailmanadmin/test

Does your DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN end in a '/'?  (It is set by default in  
Defaults.py, and may be over-ridden in your mm_cfg.py.)   
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' is typical, but some  
packagers include cgi-bin in the path/URL.

Is the deprecated variable DEFAULT_URL = None?  (At least some  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] The newaliases file and the fact that it's not needed

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On Jul 9, 2005, at 00:18, Richard Hobbs wrote:

 Does anyone know why this is happening? I guess mailman doesn't  
 know that
 exim is configured to not care about new lists, but is there a way  
 to tell
 it?

Set:
MTA = None
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.6b4

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On Jul 8, 2005, at 04:59, Darren G Pifer wrote:
 [...] from a version of Mailman we upgraded to recently. I tried to  
 look
 in the logs but could not find anything. We will be upgrading

Did you look in your Apache error logs?  There may be a Python  
traceback there that would narrow down the problem.

 When I tried to log into approve a message that is when I got the
 error message. I typed in my password and it appeared.

My first guess would be a permissions problem.  Did you try running  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] web configuration interface

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On Jul 8, 2005, at 08:20, Michael Gmail wrote:

 Thanks, I checked everything you suggested, but I still get not
 found on this server unless I enter the IP address manually, and the
 links on the config pages still point to mail.bdanube.net. Maybe
 there are cache files somewhere that I should delete, or templates I
 should edit?

After changing something that affects the URL(s), you need to run  
~mailman/bin/fix_url.py (using the bin/withlist framework... run  
fix_url.py with no arguments for help).  That will update any  
existing lists with the new URL.

 DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.bdanube.net'
 DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.bdanube.net'

In addition to adding those lines to your mm_cfg.py (depending upon  
how your Defaults.py was configured), you may need to follow those  
lines with:

VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple web interface domains for one list

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On Jul 4, 2005, at 22:35, Alexei Kuznetsov wrote:

 I've configured Mailman and set up several lists in one domain  
 (lists.company.com). But inside LAN I can't reach that machine with  
 that name because of NAT. Instead if this I can reach it by  
 lists.company.local. But so I can't see lists set up on it. And I  
 know it should be so because my lists are in fomain lists.company.com.

If you don't need Mailman's virtual host features, set:

VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = No

in your mm_cfg.py.  (See the comments in Mailman/Defaults.py)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] listinclusion patch (was: Messages not delivered *RESOLVED*)

[Jim Tittsler]

On Jun 9, 2005, at 01:52, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 I think I see the problem with the listinclusion patch. It locks the
 @list list and doesn't unlock it. I don't see a need to lock the list,

Thanks Mark!  I've made that change as well as finally patching the  
help for accept_these_nonmembers.  The revised version of the patch  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailmain Error

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On Jun 7, 2005, at 03:55, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 Job /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/disabled terminated  
 (exit
 status: 1) (mailing output)

 Job /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests  
 terminated (exit
 status: 1) (mailing output)


 Is there anything in Mailman's error log about these?

And what was in the output that was mailed to the mailman user (the  
owner of the crontab, or the person you direct cron output to with  
the MAILTO directive)?

(I suspect you still have permissions problems.)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Customizing Rejection notice with 2.1.6?

[Jim Tittsler]

On Jun 7, 2005, at 10:38, David Gibbs wrote:

 Mark Sapiro wrote:

 The message only applies to posts automatically rejected for
 reject_these_nonmembers match and generic_nonmember_action reject.


 Darn it ... I misunderstood that.

You could customize the default message in Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py  
(and, if you want it to remain translatable, any of the language .po  
files you need) (for Mailman 2.1.5 or 2.1.6).

A Javascript bookmarklet used on the web moderation page might be  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Permitted IP Address?

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On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:02:10PM -0700, Bill Landry wrote:
 We have a script that will send out automated service notification messages 
 to different lists.  Is there a way to configure Mailman to allow posts to 
 any lists from a specific IP address, that of the script server?

If you taught your script the password for each of the lists,
it could add an Approved: header to the messages it crafts.

A cleaner way would be to add a stage early in the pipeline of
handler modules that identified messages from the script (by IP
address in a received header, or a special header that would be
hard to forge) and set 'approved' and 'adminapproved' for the
message.  (See Mailman/Handlers/Approve.py and SpamDetect.py
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Regexp help - Matching Subjects to Hold Posts in Mailman 2.0.11

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On May 31, 2005, at 14:44, David Powell wrote:

 One line has a tab b/w : and [SPAM, another a space and the third
 nothing.  The other thing I wasn't sure about was if the first  
 letter of
 subject is uppper case or not.

If you are putting these in 2.0.x's bounce_matching_headers list  
variable, it doesn't matter.  Mailman takes the thing before the  
colon and its trailing whitespace (tabs or spaces) as the header  
field name to look for and the remainder of the line as the regular  
expression to compare against.  (Which explains the comment in the  
description that unescaped leading whitespace is stripped from the  
regex... not that it affects your case.)

(For the test cases where you didn't have whitespace separating the  
subject: and the regex, I'm surprised that you didn't get error  
messages logged in your Mailman config log.)

subject: \[SPAM
worked for me on an old 2.0.13 Mailman.  (I don't have a 2.0.11  
version to play with, but a really quick check of the CVS log  
suggests there were no relevant changes between those versions.)  If  
you want to track down where its going wrong on your machine, you  
could sprinkle some syslog() calls in Mailman/MailList.py's  
parse_matching_header_opt() and HasMatchingHeader().

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Re: [Mailman-Users] change email_host in all lists

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On May 31, 2005, at 21:50, Meike Reichle wrote:
 [...]
 DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'my new domain' however when doing config_list -i
 this_file -c I got the error attribute DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST ignored.

 Does this attribut have a different name within the already created
 lists or is this just because I used the -c flag? I also tried
 email_host but with the same effect (attribute email_host  
 ignored).

I think the attribute you want is host_name.  (Look at the web  
interface.  Most of the settings include links for Details for...  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Simple Unsubscribe Link

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On May 27, 2005, at 13:30, Daya Baran wrote:

 We send customized emails to user what link to we embed in the
 UNSUBSCRIBE text to the mailman page so that the user can unsubscribe.

You can provide a link to the options page for each subscriber by  
adding a line to msg_footer like:
Unsubscribe: %(user_optionsurl)s

If you are willing to mail passwords around with each mail, you can do:
Unsubscribe: %(user_optionsurl)s?password=%(user_password)s
which will take them to an options page with an unsubscribe button  
and confirmation checkbox.

Or you can provide a one click unsubscribe link:
Unsubscribe: %(user_optionsurl)s?password=%(user_password) 
sunsub=1unsubconfirm=1
Unfortunately, it gets so long it ends up wrapping in most Email  
clients.

Alternatively, you could probably generate a mailto: for the list's - 
request address to create an emailed unsub request.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] No Headers

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 26, 2005, at 22:48, Mark Sapiro wrote:


David Wills wrote:

My headers and footers are not sent in either instant or digest email
broadcasts to the list.



See the FAQ


Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py


Article 4.39

Perhaps the headers and footers are being put in separate MIME parts
that your MUA doesn't show you.


Another possibility is that you configured Mailman to use  
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Sendmail' rather than the strongly recommended  
'SMTPDirect'.  The distributed Sendmail module does not decorate  
the messages on their way out.  (There is a thread about this in the  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] pipermail.pck ?????

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 24, 2005, at 20:50, Jean-Philippe GIOLA wrote:

 I want to know what is the pipermail.pck file in the
 archives/list_name/pipermail.pck ??

(I think you mean archives/private/listname/pipermail.pck.)

It is a pickle that stores the state of the pipermail archiver for a  
particular list.  It stores information about the archive table of  
contents, sequence number, last update time, etc.  You can find more  
information in Mailman/Achiver/*


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Outbound smtp email problems: (110, 'Connection timed out')

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On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 08:48:51PM -0500, Matt England wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8:47pm [...vpopmail/etc] 136 cat /etc/tcp.smtp
 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=

Don't you also need to allow relaying from your IP address block?

  http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/qmail-issues.html

On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 10:49:11PM -0500, Matt England wrote:
 I can run the following test ok:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:35pm [~] 1 telnet localhost 25
 Trying 127.0.0.1...

Mailman tries to connect to your mail host (DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST
in the simplest case, but it is a function of the
add_virtualhost() statements in your mm_cfg.py).  This is not
specified as localhost (or 127.0.0.1)... so this is not a fair
test.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Bug?/no Admin level web access

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On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 02:14:02PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm hoping someone can help me fix this. I installed mailman, and 
 couldn't figure out why the web interface didn't work. It seems I CAN 
 access any of the pages, but the admin ones. I get a lovely message in 
 the browser:
 Bug in Mailman version 2.1.6rc3
 
 We're sorry, we hit a bug!
 
 Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of 
 traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, 
 but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. 
 
 My mailman log shows nothing, hasn't been updated since May 10th, but 
 Apache's log shows  useful information:
[...]
 [Mon May 16 13:13:04 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] IOError: [Errno 
 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/logs/error'

Did you run bin/check_perms?  The logs directory and the files
within it should be group writable (and owned by the group that
you specified as with-mail-gid when you built Mailman).

It looks like Mailman is unable to write to your logs (which
explains why they haven't changed since May 10th).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing confirm page

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 12, 2005, at 09:02, Daya Baran wrote:

 How do you change the header and footer on a global level instead of
 changing every single page

It depends on how much customization you want  to do.  If you want to  
go beyond setting the WEB_*_COLORs and turning off the IMAGE_LOGOS,  
it is probably easiest to edit Mailman/htmlformat.py directly.

I believe there are at least three sets of patches in the SourceForge  
patch tracker that add style sheets to the Mailman web pages which  
would provide you with a great deal of design flexibility once  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sanitizer settings

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 12, 2005, at 16:03, Scot Hacker wrote:
 A user is asking why  HTML messages are ending up with attachments
 (which their organization is bouncing back to them since it doesn't
 allow HTML attachments).

What is in the attachments?  (Do you have a list footer added to  
messages passing through your  Mailman?  Some users will describe the  
footer as an attachment to an HTML or multipart/alternative  
message.  Make the footer empty.)
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.039.htp

 I found this in Defaults.py

 ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER = 1

 The comments there say:
 # 2 - Leave it inline, but HTML-escape it

 I  added this to mm_cfg.py. Then I  changed the 1 to 2, but it  
 doesn't
 seem to have any effect. Formatted messages still come through with
 attachments,

This setting affects what goes into your list archives.

 So I'm still not sure why SANITIZER doesn't seem to have any effect.
 All I want is for list messages not to have  HTML attachments every  
 time
 they include a bit of formatting. Is my method below wrong? Is there
 another way to achieve this?

If you are using Mailman's content filtering, double check your MIME  
type filtering and html/text conversion rules on the Content  
filtering web page for your list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Users] remove_members returns no success output

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On May 13, 2005, at 02:53, Ramasamy, Sudhakar wrote:

 I am using the remove_members command inside a shell script and  
 sending the
 output by email. When there is an unsuccessful remove such as an  
 invalid or
 non-existent email address I can get the output. But when an email  
 address is
 successfully removed there is no output from this command.

The lack of an error message means it was successful in removing the  
member(s) requested.  remove_members only outputs on success if you  
use the --fromall switch, to confirm which list(s) from which the  
subscriber(s) were removed.

You could modify your copy of remove_members if you wanted to echo  
each address after a successful ApprovedDeleteMember().

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Users] change digest/non-digest frequency

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 13, 2005, at 00:54, Morgan R. Tamplin (test account) wrote:

 -Is it possible (and how would I) change the frequency of digest

You can change the frequency of periodic digest generation by  
changing the mailman crontab  entry that runs the cron/senddigests  
script.  (And if you don't want the change to affect all of your  
lists, look at the --listname argument documented at the beginning of  
the script.)

 and non-digest mail delivery?

Does it really matter when it is *delivered*?  Your mail server  
should be able to collect the mail even if the helpdesk user wasn't  
available.  (You might be able to have your MTA freeze certain  
messages in its queue, and thaw them for delivery at certain times.   
An Exim system filter could do that for you for example.  But again,  
why not just let them be delivered by the mail system and just not  
picked up by the user until they are available?)  Or if you mean you  
want mail to a list to bounce rather than be sent or even held, you  
could remove the mail alias except during specified hours.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem retrieving list

[Jim Tittsler]

On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 02:15:44PM -0500, John Fleming wrote:
 Using email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with who and password, I get am 
 email returned that says I don't have permission to retrieve the list.  The 
 list is set to allow list members to retrieve the member list, I am the list 
 admin and site admin, and I am also a member of the list.

You should be able to use your list member, moderator, or admin
password... but not the site password.

Are you sending the request From: an address that is
subscribed?  Does adding the address= argument to the who
command help?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Authentication by domain?

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 10, 2005, at 04:22, James wrote:

 Is there a way to authenticate people by domain?
 For example, all people at domain.com should be able to email any
 lists at domain.com, while people outside the domain.com must be
 members to post to the list.

Adding a regular expression that matches all possible domain.com  
poster addresses to the accept_these_nonmembers field of the Privacy  
options... Sender filters... page may be adequate for your needs.   
Try a variant of:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sender addresses are rather easy to spoof, so you may want to think  
twice about doing this.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple domains

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 9, 2005, at 15:43, Carl Zwanzig wrote:

 You're looking for virtual domains, there are a fair number of
 entries in the archive for this list, and in the FAQs.  (The short
 form is: yes, they're possible; for 2.1.5 you have to apply some
 patches; IME most of the patches in the archive don't apply without
 some tweeking.)

And if you are willing to live with the limitation that mailing list  
names must be unique across all the domains using a single Mailman  
instance, no patching is necessary.  Use the add_virtualhost()  
function in your mm_cfg.py (as described in Defaults.py).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ezmlm to mailman

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 10, 2005, at 00:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Le lundi 9 Mai 2005 04:15, vous avez écrit :

 I don't think that is an error message.  It is the normal status
 message that arch prints at the end of its processing.

 The real question is why doesn't the archiver split apart your
 mailbox.  It all happens inside Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py, so you
 could add more verbose output there to try to track down what is
 wrong with your mbox format.

 I don't understand anything to this python source (I'm a  
 perlmonger) . So I
 tried strace (below)
 The mbox is read until the end. But after that, I got a lot of no  
 such file,  [...]

I suspect that your mbox file is not in proper mbox format.

And/or, depending on which files generated the no such file errors,  
you may have permissions errors that are preventing arch from writing  
to the archives/private/{listname} directory.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail commands in Mailman?

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 9, 2005, at 10:39, Jens Kjaerulff wrote:

 Is it possible, as list administrator, to use Mail based commands in
 Mailman instead of the web based administrative interface?

You can do the moderation tasks of message approval/discard by mail.

(I agree this is much more convenient than the web interface,  
particularly if you have a scriptable mail client.  Examples for Mutt  
and Mail.app are at http://starship.python.net/crew/jwt/mailman/ 
#confirmations ).

But most list administration tasks require access to the web  
interface or shell access on the server.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing from cell phones

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 9, 2005, at 04:47, Scot Hacker wrote:

 Jim, this is  cool to know, thanks. So is there  a corresponding  
 option
 for unsubscribe confirmations?  I tried it with

 m.unsubscribe_policy = 0

 and withlist didn't complain, but unsub confirmations are still  
 sent out
 :( . I also tried setting ALLOW_OPEN_UNSUBSCRIBE in mm_cfg.py, but no
 luck.

There is an unsubscribe_policy variable for each list (set to the  
value of DEFAULT_UNSUBSCRIBE_POLICY in your mm_cfg.py/Defaults.py),  
but as the comments in Defaults.py explain it only controls whether  
or not administrative approval is necessary to allow the  
unsubscription to be honored.

There is no setting called ALLOW_OPEN_UNSUBSCRIBE.

If you send your member password when you send the unsubscribe  
command, there should be no confirmation step.

unsubscribe mypasswd

(You could modify Mailman/Commands/cmd_unsubscribe.py if you wanted  
to allow unverified unsubscriptions from your list by mail.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Initial list of supported languages.

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 9, 2005, at 04:21, James wrote:

 Is it possible to list only one languge in the Initial list of
 supported languages in %prefix/mailman/create page?

You can modify the LC_DESCRIPTIONS dictionary in your mm_cfg.py to  
just include a single language.

for lc in LC_DESCRIPTIONS.keys():
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Fix defacement

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On May 3, 2005, at 04:21, Tony Bibbs wrote:

 I had my mailman site defaced.  The
 /path/to/mailman/archives/public/listname/index.html
 pages have all been replaced by crap.

 How do I recover those pages?

You can regenerate them using the 'arch' tool supplied with Mailman:

bin/arch --wipe mylist

would regenerate the HTML archives for the list called mylist.

(This assumes it is just the HTML that has been damaged, and not the  
mbox file containing the archives themselves.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman htdig problem

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On May 3, 2005, at 06:07, Chris Serenil wrote:

 I have just installed Mailman 2.1.15 with the htdig
 patch 444884 and 444879. The search fails when I have
 a list name with a dot in it. (Example
 fa.dl-testlist). I will get these errors when doing a
 search. If there is no dot it works fine.

 htdig Archives Access Failure
 The requested list cannot be accessed. No list -3-

I don't use those patches, but a quick look suggests that the problem  
you are having is related to this line in sub doit:
if ($query-param('config') =~ /^([^\.]+)(|\.htsearch)$/) {

I'm guessing it is looking for either a bare listname or  
listname.htsearch.  The first group which looks for a string of  
characters that aren't in the set of '.' and '\' isn't a good choice  
for a listname with a dot in it.  (I'm guessing that the author  
didn't really want a \ there, since IIRC '.' isn't special inside a  
Perl character class and so doesn't warrant escaping... but that  
isn't the problem you are encountering.)  My Perl-foo has weakened  
over years of disuse, so it is risky to suggest something I can't  
test.  But since I didn't see any other replies, you might try  
something like:
if ($query-param('config') =~ /^(.*?)(\.htsearch)?$/) {
No warranty is expressed or implied.  If it breaks, you get to keep  
all the pieces.

I don't know if there are other places in the patches that assume  
there are no dots in the listname once you get past this hurdle.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Query

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On May 7, 2005, at 03:36, Anshuman Prusty wrote:

 In the test server at gospelcom.net, I am testing the subscriptions  
 for the newsletter and receiving the following error messages

 -- 
 --

 Warning: fsockopen(): unable to connect to www.scflists.com:80 in / 
 usr/local/www/gospelcom/docs/settingcaptivesfree/Client.php on line  
 635 www.scflists.com

 Warning: fsockopen(): unable to connect to www.scflists.com:80 in / 
 usr/local/www/gospelcom/docs/settingcaptivesfree/Client.php on

These are errors in your custom PHP scripts, not in Mailman (which is  
coded in Python).  Whatever your Client.php script is attempting, is  
failing to connect to your www.scflists.com machine (which does  
appear to be running Mailman.)

 Are the www.scflists.com domain name specific? If we use the domain  
 name www.settingcaptivesfree.com later after the migration will it  
 work? In the interim the domain name used is http:// 
 settingcaptivesfree.test.gospelcom.net/ .

If you change the URL of a list after it is created, you will need to  
use the bin/fix_url script.

   http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? 
req=showfile=faq04.029.htp
   http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to put extra spaces in Topic name field

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On May 3, 2005, at 00:07, Jeff Peterson wrote:

 In the Topic Name field, I have tried adding extra spaces, but the  
 extra
 spaces are not displayed.

The leading spaces are preserved in the list object, but since they  
are being displayed in a table cell, they don't appear in the GUI.

 I have tried putting a backslash '\' in front
 of the spaces, the backslash shows up with one space following it. I
 even tried adding 'nbsp', but no luck. Is it even possible to get  
 extra
 spaces displayed? Thank you.

I can think of two possibilities, each a little messy:

1.  You could use bin/withlist to add leading nbsp;nbsp; to the  
topics... and then never edit the topics through the GUI again.  (You  
can't use the web GUI since it will escape the .)

2.  Modify your Mailman/Cgi/options.py where it does Create the  
topics radios and replace the leading spaces of the topic name with  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom Subscribe emails

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On May 4, 2005, at 03:36, James Beeghley wrote:

 I am setting up Mainman to be used as a communication mechanism for  
 my school district. I was wondering if it is possible to modify the  
 confirming emails which are sent to potential subscribers.

You can modify the template 'verify.txt', similar to the way one of  
the FAQ answers describes modifying 'subscribeack.txt'.  (One is the  
confirm email sent to a potential subscriber, the second the welcome  
to the list.)
   http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing confirm page

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 8, 2005, at 06:16, Daya Baran wrote:

 If you edit confirm.py - you get this message Bug In Mailman

You must have made a mistake editing the script so that it was no  
longer a valid Python program.

 I had to reinstall mailman

If you had just been making changes to the one file, you could have  
just copied the backup of your confirm.py before you started making  
changes.

 I would like to change the following:

 2) remove Recieve digests?  Yes or No

You don't need to make any programming changes to remove that.  If  
you don't want to support digests, simply set 'digestable' to No on  
the Digest options page of the administrative web interface, and it  
will not appear on the confirm web page.

 3) prefered language

If you only allow one language on the Language options page of your  
administrative interface, the selection box still appears, but the  
user will not be able to change the language.  If you want to  
eliminate the selection appearing, you will have to change confirm.py  
to comment out the table.AddRow() where it gets added to the page.

 1) header and footer
 4) Cancel my subscription

These also would take modifications to confirm.py (and possibly to  
Mailman/htmlformatter.py depending upon the level of changes you want  
to make to the header and footer).  You can change some of the colors  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to create master default setting?

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 8, 2005, at 10:43, James wrote:

 Is there a way to create default settings (privacy options, bounce
 processing etc) that would be copied to all newly added mailing lists?

Copy the settings you wish to customize from Mailman/Defaults.py to  
your Mailman/mm_cfg.py file and make the changes there.  (The  
settings in mm_cfg.py override those in Defaults.py, will survive  
Mailman updates, and will apply to newly created lists.)
   http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? 
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   http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Server hostname/URL in Config

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 6, 2005, at 03:51, Scott Friedman wrote:
My domain is foo.com.
Email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But the website http://foo.com is hosted offsite.. our server here is
http://webmail.foo.com
How do I get Mailman to send emails to foo.com, but in the config  
url's,
make it say http://webmail.foo.com/Mailman, etc, etc...
You can specify the URL host and the mail host using the  
add_virtualhost() construct in your mm_cfg.py.  (If these are the  
only hosts you are using for the Mailman installation, you will  
probably also want to set DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST to  
foo.com and webmail.foo.com respectively.

Check section 11 of the admin/www/mailman-install.txt document.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] question regarding cron

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 29, 2005, at 01:20, Alex at Idoia wrote:
I have installed mailman on my debian woody. I have checked recently 
my /var/log/auth.log and they are poluated by a cron that is being 
executed by mailman every minutes of every day:
# */5 * * * *   list[ -x /usr/bin/python -a -f 
/usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news ]  /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news
* * * * *   list[ -x /usr/bin/python -a -f 
/usr/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner ]  /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner
Can you explain me this ?
Is this really necessary ?
That is the periodic task that was used for the (old) Mailman 2.0.x 
releases to process the messages.

Can we prevent it from being printed in my /auth.log ?
If you use syslog-ng you could filter them before they are written to 
the log.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I have one list send to another list.

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 29, 2005, at 05:26, Daevid Vincent wrote:
Attached is one of the ones I get. In this case, I personally posted 
to the
party@ list, but they're all the same...

As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
following mailing list posting:
List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PARTY] FW: Last Supper Club, Contour, Trinity this 
weekend!
Reason:  Message has implicit destination
Yes, as I suspected, this is being held because the RBC list name does 
not appear in the To: or cc: headers of the message (an implicit 
destination).  I presume my suggestion of adding [EMAIL PROTECTED] to 
the acceptable_aliases of the RBC list solved the problem.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Limitting age of held messages.

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 29, 2005, at 07:02, Matt Ruzicka wrote:
At the end of that FAQ there is mention of a third party patch that 
allows
you to specify how many days to hold pending messages and to 
automatically
discard when they expires.
Mailman 2.1.6 (currently at the release candidate 2 stage) implements 
similar functionality.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I default to HTML, not plain text emails?

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 28, 2005, at 04:14, Daevid Vincent wrote:
How do I make it so that new members on the lists get HTML email. It
defaults to plain and after a bulk insert, I have to manually go check 
that
checkbox. Grr.
Are you referring to the 'plain' checkbox on the Membership 
Management... Membership List... page?  That controls the format of the 
list digests (allowing you to select either plain text or MIME 
formatted digests).  You can set the default on the Digest options... 
page.  It does not refer to HTML formatted email.

If you want users to receive HTML formatted messages, you will want to 
mail HTML messages (or multipart-alternative) messages to the list, and 
make sure you have configured Content filtering... not to remove them 
or convert text/html parts into plain text.  (You may also want to make 
sure the msg_footer is an empty string.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I have one list send to another list.

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 28, 2005, at 04:13, Daevid Vincent wrote:
My main thing now is that I have one list [EMAIL PROTECTED] that I 
have an
automated crontab that mails out a list of events from a database once 
a
week.  There is another list [EMAIL PROTECTED] that is subscribed to the
party@ list where all members should be allowed to post to the list.
Is the message being held because the poster is not a member of the 
list, or because of an implicit destination?

If the latter and the cron job mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and you don't 
have personalization enabled), you may want to include 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in the Privacy options... Recipient filters... 
acceptable_aliases for the rbc list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 500 internal server error

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 27, 2005, at 19:26, RT wrote:
I've just installed mailman, and am having a couple of problems. The 
first is that http://dom.ain/mailman/ returns '403 forbidden',
That is normal.  Users normally should visit 
http://dom.ain/mailman/listinfo/ and administrators visit 
http://dom.ain/mailman/admin/.  Many Mailman administrators will 
include an Apache redirectmatch to bounce visitors from 
http://dom.ain/mailman/ to http://dom.ain/mailman/listinfo/

 and any other page (ie. http://dom.ain/create) returns '500 internal 
server error'.
With a normal installation, you should be visiting 
http://dom.ain/mailman/create/


[2005-04-27 11:07:05]: uid: (mailman/mailman) gid: (mailman/mailman) 
cmd: create
[2005-04-27 11:07:05]: directory is writable by others: 
(/usr/local/home/mailman/mailman-2.1.5/cgi-bin)

Are you trying to use Apache's suEXEC feature?  It conflicts with the 
normal Mailman installation.  You will need to make sure the cgi-bin 
directory is not group writable.  (Once over that hurdle, you will 
probably then have to make sure that the files in cgi-bin don't have 
the SGID bit set, and are owned by the correct user/group so that 
suEXEC can set the group for the scripts.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Message rejected by filter rule match (Content Filtering)

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 26, 2005, at 23:26, Fred H Olson wrote:
This sounds similar to a curiousity I've see twice lately for one
subscriber.
It is different.  Your message subject Content filtered message 
notification says that the message has matched the Content filtering 
rules (not the Spam filters).

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Content filtered message notification
Parts/Attachments:
   1   Shown  5 lines  Text
   2   Shown6.1 KB Message, RE: [C-L]_ Collective housing
   2.1 Shown 39 lines  Text

The attached message matched the cohousing-l mailing list's content
filtering rules and was prevented from being forwarded on to the list
membership.  You are receiving the only remaining copy of the
discarded message.
I suspect you have filter_action set to Forward to List Owner and the 
hotmail poster's original message doesn't have the proper MIME type to 
get past your Content Filter rules.  See the help for filter_action:
[...] when the message matches one of the content filtering rules,
meaning, the top-level content type matches one of the 
filter_mime_types,
or the top-level content type does not match one of the 
pass_mime_types,
or if after filtering the subparts of the message, the message ends 
up empty.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I set links to use another Web Server's URL?

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On Apr 27, 2005, at 04:08, Jeff Peterson wrote:
I have the Mailman  the Apache web server on one machine and have
subscribers access the GUI's through another Web server by Proxy
redirect.   However, on the ListInfo page, the links are not totally
correct.
Make sure you have set the desired DEFAULT_URL_HOST and 
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suspect you want something like:

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'domain.name'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.my.web.site'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
(If those are not already the settings in your Defaults.py.  
DEFAULT_HOST_NAME should remain set to None).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe and unsubscribe not working

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On Apr 23, 2005, at 00:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I send an email to (as an example) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject subscribe - it does 
not subscribe me. When I send an email to (as an example) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe it does 
not unsubscribe me.
What happens instead?  Do you get an error message in reply?
What happens to the message?  (Check the Mailman logs and your MTA 
logs.)

Have you double-checked the aliases for your list?  (bin/genaliases can 
be used to remind you of the complete list of aliases.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Permission problem

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On Apr 24, 2005, at 23:53, Bob Applegate wrote:
When creating a list via the mailman/creat web page, I get an error:
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/njqrp.mbox'
bin/check_perms can help you find permissions problems (and with the -f 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing Contact Mailing Address

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On Apr 23, 2005, at 02:49, Staven Bruce wrote:
I'm running Mailman 2.1.5 and on the
standard 'Lists Overview Page', underneath the 'Welcome Message', 
there is a
text line that states, If you are having trouble using the lists, 
please
contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I am trying to figure out how to 
configure
Mailman so that messages sent to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' go to a 
specific
address such as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the mailman list.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: mailman, permissions, IOError (OS X, 10.3.8)

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On Apr 26, 2005, at 05:03, Carl Zwanzig wrote:
Do/did you have an old installation of MM? V2.1.n doesn't use a cron
job, but rather lets the qrunner daemonize. IIRC, you need to manually
remove all MM cron entries.
While Mailman 2.1.x doesn't use cron for the various queue runners, 
there are still several cron jobs in a typical Mailman installation 
(password reminders, administrative reminders, periodic digests, and 
optional things like news-to-mail gatewaying and compressing archives).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: mailman, permissions, IOError (OS X, 10.3.8)

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 26, 2005, at 04:57, Jason Miller wrote:
Root does receive a stack of emails, however.  At least one every five
minutes.  The text of the email looks like this:
Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/usr/bin/python -S /Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news
X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh
X-Cron-Env: HOME=/Users/user
X-Cron-Env: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin
X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=user
X-Cron-Env: USER=user
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:30:01 -0500 (CDT)
Why are you running the cron jobs as 'user' instead of 'mailman'?  (Is 
the 'user' user a member of the 'mailman' group?)

I've modified Defaults.py so that all mentions of NNTP are commented
out, but this approach is just guesswork on my part.
You should never modify Defaults.py, but rather make any customizations 
you need in your mm_cfg.py.  (That allows your changes to persist 
through Mailman updates.)

even though I don't have a News-Mailman gateway configured. In fact,
I've tried to make sure that mailman understand I do not want such a
gateway, but I guess I've not been successful.
You could edit your crontab (for the 'user' user in your case 
apparently) and comment out the gatewaying task which runs every 5 
minutes by default.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscription Mailman question

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 26, 2005, at 05:51, Ron Jeffries wrote:
As list admin, when I use the mass subscription
feature, what i syntax to give real name
as well as email address. Example:
for an email such as:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if the person's name is:
  Scott Jackson
and they work at:
  DorkyDorks Inc.
How do I enter that info when mass subscribing?
This has been discussed on the list quite frequently, including within 
the past few days.  Any of these should work:
Scott Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scott Jackson-DorkyDorks Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scott Jackson, DorkyDorks Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Listing bouncing addresses

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 22, 2005, at 21:44, Nico wrote:
How do I get a list of all the subscribers with a bounce score  0 
(and not
de-activated)?
You can use bin/withlist to review getBouncingMembers().  If you want 
details about last bounce, how many bounce notifications, you can use 
getBounceInfo(member):

$ bin/withlist mylist
 from Mailman.MemberAdaptor import ENABLED
 for member in m.getBouncingMembers():
... if m.getDeliveryStatus(member) == ENABLED:
... print member
... print m.getBounceInfo(member)
...
Depending on your goal, you may want to further filter this list based 
on how fresh the last bounce is.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple moderator messages

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 23, 2005, at 05:14, Jack Ziegler wrote:
2) when a new list is created the owner gets a message saying there 
are -1 moderator requests waiting.  Logging into the admin interface 
for the list (and finding no requests waiting), clears this.
This is a known problem with Mailman 2.1.5.
  http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.038.htp
Now that you have created the requests database, the problem should be 
gone.  A patch is in the SourceForge patch tracker, or you can try the 
2.1.6 release candidate where this problem (and others) have been 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: header not stripped from mail delivered to list...

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On Apr 22, 2005, at 17:41, Katharina wrote:
After trying out the Approved: list-moderator-pwd as the first line
in the content of a mail I wanted to post to a (test) list, as 
described
in some archive entries of the mailman-users mailing list, I found out
that my mail was ideed posted to the list passing through moderation 
but
the header-like first line I had added for that porpose was not 
stripped
as it was supposed to be. What has gone wrong?
Did your message consist of only a single plain-text part?  (The 
Approved: header is not stripped from other parts, like an RTF or HTML 
version in a multipart-alternative message.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] inserting new members

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 22, 2005, at 18:03, nikos wrote:
Is there a way in mass subscription to insert not only mails but names?
You can enter names and bracketed email addresses in the mass 
subscription form.
Joe Subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The bin/add_members script can also accept real names, and is often 
more convenient than the mass subscription web form if you have shell 
access on the server.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] variable %(addr) not interpreted in customized template

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 21, 2005, at 18:11, Katharina wrote:
a directory lists/mylist/en and copied templates/subscribeack.txt to
this directory where I edited it. In the new template I wanted as well
to make the address of the welcomed member visible and so I used the
variable %(addr). This has unfortunatelly not worked: What I got back
was the string %(addr) itself and no email address. What should I do
to get it write?
Try %(user)
You can see the variables that are available for substitution by 
checking mailman/Deliver.py's Deliverer.SendSubscribeAck().

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Re: [Mailman-Users] migration mailman lists, dealing with paths in config.db

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 21, 2005, at 16:20, Geoff Crompton wrote:
Is there an easy way of updating the paths in the config.db file? I 
have tried the config_list program, it fails when using the -i option, 
do to the difference in paths! Preferably a scripty way, as there are 
quite a few lists to move.
What is the error message?  (I'm surprised that it fails.)
But ignoring that... it might be easiest to work around the problem by 
creating symbolic links at the old locations... at least long enough to 
update them.

You could use bin/withlist to modify all your lists.  (Run it with no 
arguments  for help.  In particular, not the section where it explains 
the -r argument.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Data directory/bounce-events-* files?

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 15, 2005, at 12:22, Larry Rosenman wrote:
I have 178MEG of bounce-events-* files in my /data directory.
Should these files be hanging around?
No.  It sounds like either:
 - your bounce queue runner isn't running
 - you've set REGISTER_BOUNCES_EVERY very large, so it hasn't processed 
the accumulated bounces lately
 - the time changed on the server (without restarting mailman) and it 
thinks it is still not time to process the bounces

I'd be inclined to just delete the old bounces (since some of them may 
be stale by now) and restart Mailman.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing List

[Jim Tittsler]

On Apr 14, 2005, at 19:55, Sinh Quan wrote:
I am trouble shooting a mailing list in which mails did not go to
members.
The list I am dealing with has nearly 7000 members and I don't want to
send a test email to all of them.  I would like to send to just 1 for
testing purposes.
Enabling VERP (for at least one posting) might be more effective.
Is there a quick way of setting the no mail marker to all members 
rather
than 1 by 1 and then untick them again later?
Yes, you can do this with bin/withlist.  You will want to 
setDeliveryStatus(user, MemberAdaptor.BYADMIN) to set nomail.  Then to 
untick them, you will want to search for those that their delivery 
status set to BYADMIN and set it back to MemberAdaptor.ENABLED.

But checking the Mailman and MTA logs (especially with VERP enabled) 
seems more productive.
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