Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscribe options

2011-06-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Drew Tenenholz wrote:

1) I have both digest and non-digest members.  What are the options for 
transferring these members into mailman?  (Email, Mass Subscribe upload page, 
command line, etc.) any preferences to preserve their original digest choice?


Make two files, one containing the regular (non-digest) members and the
other containing the digest members. These files contain one member
per line in a format like:

Joe Cool jc...@example.com

(see http://wiki.list.org/x/YoA9 for other formatting options).

Then, from the command line

bin/add_members -r regular_file -d digest_file -w y -a n listname

See bin/add_members --help for a description of the options.

You can also do this from the web admin mass subscribe page, but it
isn't recommended because it's more cumbersome and with tens of
thousands of members, will probably time out.

To do it, first set Digest options - digest_is_default to Digest and
upload your digest file to the Membership Management... - Mass
Subscription page; then set Digest options - digest_is_default to
Regular and upload your regular file to the Membership Management...
- Mass Subscription page.


Does it make any sense to create two new lists (one digest-only, one 
non-digest-only) and import the members into two new lists?  (This doesn't 
sound right, but)


No, it does not make sense.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscribe blunder

2009-09-02 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Jeffrey Goldberg jeff...@goldmark.org:
 This is more of a list management question than a Mailman question,
 but I need your collective wisdom
 
 I just did a mass Subscribe (288 address) for a list where I had
 intended to do a mass Invite.

You can retrieve the addresses from the mailman subscribe (sp?) log.
That way you could either unsubscribe them OR create a temporary list
telling the you meant to invite them but fubared the whole thing.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscribe blunder

2009-09-01 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:51:45PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
 I just did a mass Subscribe (288 address) for a list where I had  
 intended to do a mass Invite.

[...]
 I'm hopeful that I will be able to explain and apologize to anyone who  
 complains to me, but I fear that I won't have that opportunity and  
 will get blocked by the likes of AoL right off the bat.
 
 Any advice is welcome.

Be pre-emptive/pro-active and mail the people you sub'd explaining
that you meant to invite them to join the list, but human error caused
them to be subscribed; that the list is low-traffic/announcements from
the school only (or whatever). Provide a link to *their* options page,
along with something like:
I understand if you want to unsubscribe -- you can so do via
http://foo.example.org/mailman/options/emailaddy

(It's the sort of thing I'd grep the subscribe log for, and then let
some perl/bash mail each person, giving them their customized URIs.)

If you didn't send a welcome message, a slightly cheeky option is to
unsub (without notification), and invite the folks.

(Still, it's a lot better than sending a reply about privacy policy to
a complete list of a few k subscribers, rather than the individual you
thought you were sending it to: there's a reason my external lists are
set to require all posts to be approved, even those from staff.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscribe blunder

2009-09-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Adam McGreggor wrote:

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:51:45PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
 I just did a mass Subscribe (288 address) for a list where I had  
 intended to do a mass Invite.

[...]
 I'm hopeful that I will be able to explain and apologize to anyone who  
 complains to me, but I fear that I won't have that opportunity and  
 will get blocked by the likes of AoL right off the bat.
 
 Any advice is welcome.

[...]
If you didn't send a welcome message, a slightly cheeky option is to
unsub (without notification), and invite the folks.


OTOH, if you did send a welcome, check Mailman's bounce log for bounces
and delete those addresses from the list.

If you don't repeatedly mail to non-existent or spam-trap addresses at
the large ISPs, they probably won't block you unless they get multiple
complaints.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscribe blunder

2009-09-01 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Sep 1, 2009, at 6:48 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:


Adam McGreggor wrote:


On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:51:45PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:

I just did a mass Subscribe (288 address) for a list where I had
intended to do a mass Invite.



If you didn't send a welcome message, a slightly cheeky option is to
unsub (without notification), and invite the folks.


OTOH, if you did send a welcome, check Mailman's bounce log for  
bounces

and delete those addresses from the list.


Thank you!  That is extremely obvious once you point it out, but since  
I've never run a list with unconfirmed addresses before that had  
completely slipped my mind.


As it turns out, 31 out of 288 addresses were bouncing.  So the  
transcription error rate was much worse than I'd anticipated.


Cheers,

-j


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscribe Digest members

2008-10-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mel Sojka wrote:

I know it must be somewhere in the wiki but have yet to find it and 
google went everywhere else. I have a long list of both regular and 
digest members how can I mass subscribe the digest members or even 
better both combined?


If you have command line access, use bin/add_members.

Through the web you need to first set Digest options -
digest_is_default to Digest and then mass subscribe the digest
members. Then set Digest options - digest_is_default back to Regular
and mass subscribe the regular members.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe by email

2008-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Julian Bradfield wrote:

As a list owner, how do I *by email* subscribe a number of users, 
without requiring either their or my separate approval?
(The normal list setting is to require admin approval.)


You can't.

There is no email interface for list administration.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe

2008-01-19 Thread Khalil Abbas

 
hi, 
 
I have a dedicated server with cent-OS .. I access my mailman using:
 
http://www.mydoman.com/mailman/admin/listname
 
based on the message below, a nice fellow answered my questions by: 
path-to-mailman/bin/
 
now I browsed my server using SSH but couldn't find the path to mailman 
anywhere, I automatically installed it using the control panel of my server.. 
but I don't know where I can find the path to mailman and the bin directory in 
it to run the commands! could anyone please help me?
 
here's my previous message and the answer of the nice guy:
 
 dear mailman guys,  2 things ..  1- is there a way to mass-subscribe 
 users through sending a command by email to the list without the 
 administritive interface? because I keep getting an 'Internal server error' 
 message
  2- I've been trying to get a list of users to my email using the 'who 
  password' command.. but it keeps giving me only 2500 addresses instead of 
  the 75000+ emails in my list .. what to do about it?  your help is highly 
  appreciated ..  /path-to-mailman/bin/sync_members [options] -f filename 
  listname /path-to-mailman/bin/list_members listname
 
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe

2008-01-19 Thread Todd Zullinger
Khalil Abbas wrote:
 I have a dedicated server with cent-OS .. I access my mailman using:
 
 http://www.mydoman.com/mailman/admin/listname
 
 based on the message below, a nice fellow answered my questions by:
 path-to-mailman/bin/
 
 now I browsed my server using SSH but couldn't find the path to
 mailman anywhere, I automatically installed it using the control
 panel of my server.. but I don't know where I can find the path to
 mailman and the bin directory in it to run the commands! could
 anyone please help me?

You could find where mailman is installed in various ways, depending
on how your control panel installed it.  Some options you have
include:

- use the locate or find commands to search for sync-members
- use rpm to query for the list of files in the mailman package (if
  your control panel installed mailman via an rpm
- try ~mailman/bin, as the bin dir is typically in the mailman users
  home directory

There are surely other ways to find this.  In the end, you really need
to be more familiar with your OS and how the software on it is
installed.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe

2008-01-18 Thread Steven Stern
Khalil Abbas wrote:
  
 dear mailman guys,
  
 2 things ..
  
 1- is there a way to mass-subscribe users through sending a command by email 
 to the list without the administritive interface? because I keep getting an 
 Internal server error message.. 
  
 2- I've been trying to get a list of users to my email using the 'who 
 password' command.. but it keeps giving me only 2500 addresses instead of the 
 75000+ emails in my list .. what to do about it?
  
 your help is highly appreciated ..
  

/path-to-mailman/bin/sync_members [options] -f filename listname

/path-to-mailman/bin/list_members listname

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe one per line, names too?

2008-01-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 1/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Gentlemen, the administrator's mass subscriptions entry box does not
  mention how to get their English names added too. Does one put them in like:

  Ted Blazanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Neurdovitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yup.  This is mentioned in the archives, but I'm still looking for 
the relevant piece of documentation or the appropriate FAQ Wizard 
entry.

  Also say I have chosen site language = English. May I still enter
  Chinese UTF names or expect disaster?

Dunno.  The developers of Mailman have tried to make it as 
multi-language friendly as possible, but this may or may not work. 
Feel free to give it a try and let us know how it works out for you.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe one per line, names too?

2008-01-17 Thread jidanni
OK, thanks. Filed bug
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=1874279group_id=103atid=100103
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscribe Option

2007-12-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Cyndi Norwitz wrote:

When I use mass subscribe at Sonic.net, the text indicates I'll have a
choice of actually subscribing the addresses or inviting them.  But there
is no choice.  It just goes directly to invite.


I'm not aware of any bugs in this specific function, so I can only
assume that this is a sonic.net 'feature' to force you to invite only.
Why they wouldn't also fix the web page to make it clear is beyond me,
but mass subscribe works in all the Mailman versions that I have any
experience with.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscribe Option

2007-12-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Cyndi Norwitz wrote:

If someone can confirm my suspicion and give me the details, I will pass it
on to Sonic tech support and see if they can do something about it.  I
suspect it was set this way on purpose as an antispam measure, but it's a
big inconveince for those of us migrating legitimate lists.


As I said in my prior reply, I suspect this is intentional on Sonic's
part, but you may be able to negotiate with them to do a one time add
for you from a list provided by you. The command line add_members tool
should still be functional. It takes a file of lines like

Jane Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and adds each name/address to the list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscribe required for single user?

2007-07-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kelly Jones wrote:

If I want to subscribe just one user via the web interface, do I still
need to use Mass Subscribe?


Yes, unless you want to fill out the subscribe form on the listinfo
page which is then subject to any required confirmation and approval.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe with real names

2004-09-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Sean R. Kirkpatrick wrote:

I've poked around the docs and google and haven't seen this documented - 
did I miss it?

I have a sizeable list of folks that need to be added to a new list. I'd 
like to be able to mass subscribe them by uploading a file and include 
their real names at the same time. Is this possible? I tried something like

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Frank Smith

but that didn't work.

use
   Frank Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This needs to be in the FAQ. I'll try to add it sometime later today.

BTW, a search of the archives of this list
(http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/) for real
name or for mass subscribe would have found the answer.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscribe Question

2004-07-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Q) Is it possible to mass subscribe members with their e-mail addresses 
*AND* their names - by up loading a file with the addresses and names. IF SO, 
what is the required format of that file?

Real Name1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Real Name2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
etc ...

Q) Is it possible to display the list members' names along side thier e-mail 
addresses on the subscribers list available to members? It would be nice to 
have the list sorted in name alphabetical order.

The response to the e-mail who command contains real names as well as
e-mail addresses. It is not sorted.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscribe Question

2004-07-12 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:36 PM + 2004-07-10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have checked the FAQs, but have not found an answer to the following
 questions... also http://listowners.org/; is not responding.
	Yeah, that's down for the moment.  The owner of that domain is 
working on trying to bring it back up, but I don't recall if there 
has been any estimates as to when that will happen.

 Q) Is it possible to mass subscribe members with their e-mail addresses
 *AND* their names - by up loading a file with the addresses and names. IF SO,
 what is the required format of that file?
	You can use the Mass Subscribe function under the Membership 
Management page on the web admin interface for your list. 
Alternatively, you can use the command-line tools (see 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.009.htp).

The format should be:
Real Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Q) Is it possible to display the list members' names along side thier e-mail
 addresses on the subscribers list available to members? It would be nice to
 have the list sorted in name alphabetical order.
	I'm not sure about this one.  I'll have to let someone else 
answer this question.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscribe Member limit? (add_members)

2003-08-09 Thread Ed Wilts
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 03:39:00PM -0300, Gustavo Gouvea wrote:
 Im using redhat 8.0 + mailman 2.0.13.
 
 It happens that Im using add_members to mass subscribe
 25,000 members.
 
 When I try to do it, the script tells me that several
 email adresses was already subscribed, but they were not.
 I use list_members and bingo! The emails informed as already
 subscribed are not subscribed.
 
 Is there a maximum number of members I can subscribe once?

I've done over 40,000 on Red Hat Linux 7.0 and mailman 2.0.13.  When I
saw the duplicate member error, it turned out that I had the same user
in my text file twice, but with different case.  Do a case-insensitive
uniq on your input file and see if that helps.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe using script or cut/paste?

2003-02-10 Thread Matthew Davis
* Andy Firman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 I have 3,000 emails I need to get into a new Mailman mailing list.  
 Do you think I can cut and paste into the admin membership-
 management interface?  I have no clue what it can handle.
 I searched the archives but did not find anything similar to my question.

My guess is it'll take a while to process that large amount of addresses.

 The box I am using is remote and I only have ssh access to it along
 with the web management page of course.
 I suppose I could use wget, ftp, or maybe scp to get the file
 to the remote box to use the add_members script.  At this time I am not too 
 comfortable and confident doing something like that file transfer.

This would be the easiest way to accomplish your goal.  You could even email
that file as an attachment then handle the file on that box.  If you need
help with the other transfer commands (scp/ftp/wget) I can give pointers
there if necessary.

Then adding the users would be as easy as

# add_members --regular-members-file=textfile listtoaddto

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe using script or cut/paste?

2003-02-10 Thread Larry Hansford
At 11:08 PM 2/10/2003, Andy Firman wrote:


I have 3,000 emails I need to get into a new Mailman mailing list.
Do you think I can cut and paste into the admin membership-
management interface?  I have no clue what it can handle.
I searched the archives but did not find anything similar to my question.

The box I am using is remote and I only have ssh access to it along
with the web management page of course.
I suppose I could use wget, ftp, or maybe scp to get the file
to the remote box to use the add_members script.  At this time I am not too
comfortable and confident doing something like that file transfer.

Has anyone pasted that many into the admin membership-management page?
How did it work?


I've not done that many, but Mailman 2.1.1 a file upload option that I 
used to incorporate a fairly large list of names.  It didn't seem to have 
any problem with the list.  For your own sanity, you may want to break the 
list down into several smaller files, and import them one at a time so you 
can more easily review the Error subscribing list of addresses.   I had 
the text file set up with address on a separate line in the format of:

First Last [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Larry



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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe using script or cut/paste?

2003-02-10 Thread Andy Firman
 I've not done that many, but Mailman 2.1.1 a file upload option that I
 used to incorporate a fairly large list of names.  It didn't seem to have
 any problem with the list.  For your own sanity, you may want to break the
 list down into several smaller files, and import them one at a time so you
 can more easily review the Error subscribing list of addresses.   I had
 the text file set up with address on a separate line in the format of:

 First Last [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks for the comments everyone!

I just added the subs through the web interface in 6 groups of
500 each.  The software didn't even flinch.  Very nice.

Thanks to the developers of this Mailman software.  It is awesome!!!

Andy

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe and specify password

2002-11-12 Thread Jon Carnes
This is not a standard feature of Mailman so it's not possible yet.

If you could convince the Sysadmin to load a patch to Mailman then you
could use a patched add_user function and do this.  You can find the
patch by searching the archives of the list.
 
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 16:29, David Moore wrote:
 Need some help here... I've scanned the FAQ and havn't found a clear (to me)
 answer yet -
 
 What I am wanting to do is use the List administrator's  Mass Subscribe
 Members under Member Management (web interface) and specify not only the
 users email but the users initial password.
 
 For example - under mass subscribe:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [PASSWORD]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [PASSWORD]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [PASSWORD]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [PASSWORD]
 
  etc
 
 where in all four cases the password for that user is password or whatever
 text is assigned as the persons INITIAL password - if they want to change it
 later that is fine but specifying the INITIAL password.
 
 I'm trying to set up the initial list(s) (apx 300-400 users each) without
 the users having to confirm - otherwise I can use the email interface and
 subscribe them with password using the syntax:  subscribe PASSWORD
 address=EMAIL@ADDRESS, but then each one must confirm their own
 subscription...
 
 Any ideas? - Again I am only a LIST/domain admin and not Mailman/server
 admin ...
 If I'm looking at my site specs right we are on Mailman version 2.0.13.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 David Moore
 Technical Coordinator
 AIBI Resources
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscribe

2002-11-04 Thread John Wards
On Monday 04 Nov 2002 2:51 pm, Brian Read wrote:
 I am about to subscribe about 150 names to a list, from a CSV file, is
 there a  way of adding the real name as well as the email?

Well in the beta version you do it like this:

Brian Read [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Wards [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers
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