Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition
Hi David, David Nelson wrote on 2010-11-20 12.45: I had thought that this thread was going to go dead after my last post, but I see that it wasn't*quite* the case. But I'd like to see whether investigating the organization of a logo/mascot competition really has any uptake among the people reading this thread. sorry for the confusion. On the train ride back home yesterday, I worked through about 150-200 unread e-mails. I just spotted the question whether you can use the wiki, and sure, you can do so. :-) Later on I read Bernhard's reply and realized what the thing is about. IIRC, Bernhard suggested that at the moment, lots of things are going on, and Bernhard proposes we wait a bit with a contest, as there are no resources available. I'll stick to Bernhards proposal, he is usually very well informed in the art and design area. Sorry for the confusion I've caused - too many things are on my desk, so sometimes I miss the point. ;/ Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition
Hi, :-) On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 20:39, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: I just spotted the question whether you can use the wiki, and sure, you can do so. :-) OK, thanks. And the lists, too? ;-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Res: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Mailing list des...@... for Design Team
Hello Community, Would not it be better to create a forum where it will discuss marketing more broadly? Advantages: 01 - So we have the categories where we publish our doubts; 02 - These were then organized by topic; 03 - Any user can join a class and also of several other of his interest; 04 - We'll have more freedom to insert images, formatting the messages, videos, links and other resources; 05 - Issues like can be targeted to a specific; 06 - The discussions can be terminated if there is more interest; 07 - Greater control of users (statistics) and in the future greater control of spam (if any); 08 - Ability to stop following the discussion in the forum without having to leave the list; 09 - Marketing is marketing, like the subject who want to know everything - my opinion, then the board would give greater freedom for the knowledge. If the intention of dividing the messages related to marketing is just to slow the flow of them, this prevents a user can view other related activities. Please consider this possibility. Até mais, Lucas Filho Open-Ce Tecnologias e Serviços http://www.open-ce.com.br ::@strogildo - Educação a distância http://astrogildo.blogspot.com Coordenador Estadual GUBRO-Ceará http://www.broffice.org/gubro-ce Blog Pessoal http://lucasfilho.blogspot.com Agradecemos a Deus por tudo - Mensagem original De: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Para: steering-disc...@documentfoundation.org; marketing@libreoffice.org Enviadas: Sábado, 20 de Novembro de 2010 9:15:31 Assunto: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Mailing list des...@... for Design Team Hi, Christoph Noack wrote on 2010-11-16 12.02: Thus, I propose to set up the mailing listdes...@libreoffice.org for the LibreOffice Design Team that will work on Visual Design and Artwork, amongst User Experience Design. the list is now up and running: des...@libreoffice.org: Mailing list for LibreOffice design and artwork Subscription: design+subscr...@libreoffice.org Digest subscription: design+subscribe-dig...@libreoffice.org Archives: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/design/ Mail-Archive.com: http://www.mail-archive.com/des...@libreoffice.org/ GMANE: pending Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 20:21 +0800, David Nelson wrote: On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 20:13, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: This is getting really tiresome. Sorry, Thorsten. We'll all write to you for prior approval before writing to the lists. :-D There *were* actually some people who liked the competition idea. ;-) There were actually several people opposed to a competition. They even brought up arguments and past experience. Most of what has been brought up in opposition hasn't been addressed by supporters at all. What irks me is that you repeatedly say one thing and then proceed to act differently. You stated that you would drop the idea if presented with arguments against it. It took a while, but then you stated you did, because of the replies on the thread plus off-list discussions. Now you are back on it. This behavior turns any discussion entirely pointless. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Marketing] Marketing team needs and Drupal site development
On 11/19/2010 04:42 PM, Marc Paré wrote: The Drupal Web Dev Team are pretty active and, I have to say, very impressive. If you would have any input on these two threads it would greatly help us in setting up the site with the tool sets that we require on the marketing website. (I am part of the Web Dev. Team.) I think that we have to be careful in selecting the marketing stuff that should be featured on the web site (press releases and clippings, useful documents like backgrounds, market researches, etcetera, pics of relevant people, case studies, and in general every bit of information which might help in knowing more or writing about TDF or LibreOffice) and the discussions which should happen either on a wiki or in a private mailing list, about concepts and strategies, messages, and all the related information. In fact, although we want to be transparent, we have competitors who are willing to understand more about us, and therefore we cannot discuss everything in public. -- Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation E-mail: italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org Mobile +39.348.5653829 - VoIP: +39.02.320621813 Skype: italovignoli - GTalk: italo.vign...@gmail.com -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition
Hi Thorsten, :-) I have understood that you don't favor the idea of a competition. I did read your blog posts on the subject [1] [2]. There *are* people who disagree with you: In open source we have traditionally ran such contests, so in reality Thorsten is putting forward the controversial idea.. ;-) [3] You do seem to be a little dogmatic on the subject: We need to shout it loud and clear that spec work should not be affiliated, is not related to, and will not be tolerated with the Open Source / Free Software movement. [2] But please stop shouting about it here, because people do have a right to discuss ideas even if you don't agree with what they're saying. Also, please don't introduce an emotive, personal element into what is purely an intellectual debate. (In any case, this thread does not commit TDF to any course of action.) If you don't want to read it, feel free to hit the delete button. ;-) Actually, IMHO, your own blog post points-up one very good reason for at least giving consideration to *some* form of contest: If you just let things happen in a collaborative project with design/artwork needs, you will likely see a few people creating proposals that mostly cover the same ground. They all will base there work on their own assumptions regarding various aspects of the project. [1] I thoroughly agree with one of the statements you made: A collaborative project should have a documented mission statement/vision/set of goals. [1] So, any process with some kind of competitive/comparative aspect to it would need to be carefully designed and planned beforehand. There's nothing wrong with creating a wiki page on the subject, to develop further thinking about it. But I do hope you read my previous posts as carefully as I read yours. In which case you will understand *why* I posted in response to Florian's invitation to go ahead and create a wiki page, and you will *remember* that I actually suggested that it should be someone else that makes the first move. To quote a line from the movie K-PAX, To quote a line from Navarro, my dear Doctor, you need to chill. ;-) IMHO, your preceding couple of posts are OT. Please allow people a little freedom of speech and of thought? Can we just leave this thread open to people who might like to explore the original topic further? It's a pity you're so anti the idea, because your expertise would have been valuable in arriving at something well thought-out and organized. :-( To anyone who might reply that, Anyway, there is definitely not going to be any kind of competition, I'd reply that a) it's a pity to make definitive declarations about something before having examined a mature and fully-formed proposal, and that b) it seems a little out of place to make such authoritative statements as yet when so much about the LibO project is still unclear and ambiguous. I don't intend to reply to anything further that bears any kind of resemblance to trolling, flaming, discourtesy or unfriendliness (it might be relevant to read what the draft TDF statutes have to say about such forms of behavior). I will be perfectly willing to take part in discussion that is measured and courteous in its tone and content. :-) I hope you can understand my POV... :-) Can we please reset, and resume the original subject? [1] http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/design-in-collaborative-projects/ [2] http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2010/01/specs-and-contests-we-all-lose.html [3] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-November/012593.html David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 00:50 +0800, David Nelson wrote: There *are* people who disagree with you: In open source we have traditionally ran such contests, so in reality Thorsten is putting forward the controversial idea.. ;-) [3] This is a quote from Vish, who reacted to you implying your idea of doing a contest would be controversial. Even without context, the quoted statement just calls opposition to doing such contests controversial. This is not disagreement. I start to worry about your reading comprehension. You do seem to be a little dogmatic on the subject: We need to shout it loud and clear that spec work should not be affiliated, is not related to, and will not be tolerated with the Open Source / Free Software movement. [2] [2] http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2010/01/specs-and-contests-we-all-lose.html You quote _Troy_ to then call _me_ dogmatic? But please stop shouting about it here, because people do have a right to discuss ideas even if you don't agree with what they're saying. I'm not against discussion. Real discussion includes addressing valid concerns that have been brought up. Actually, IMHO, your own blog post points-up one very good reason for at least giving consideration to *some* form of contest: If you just let things happen in a collaborative project with design/artwork needs, you will likely see a few people creating proposals that mostly cover the same ground. They all will base there work on their own assumptions regarding various aspects of the project. [1] What I described there is actually not a good thing, because of the limited range of options and because the assumptions remain hidden, thus can't be evaluated or challenged. So, any process with some kind of competitive/comparative aspect to it would need to be carefully designed and planned beforehand. There's nothing wrong with creating a wiki page on the subject, to develop further thinking about it. Yes. I just worry that you or someone else will use it as a preparation for a contest. To quote a line from the movie K-PAX, To quote a line from Navarro, my dear Doctor, you need to chill. ;-) You should not make assumptions about my emotional state. It's a pity you're so anti the idea, because your expertise would have been valuable in arriving at something well thought-out and organized. :-( How can you both claim to value my expertise and ignore it? I'm actually trying to make sure that my expertise will indeed be valuable in arriving at something well thought-out and organized. I don't intend to reply to anything further that bears any kind of resemblance to trolling, flaming, discourtesy or unfriendliness (it might be relevant to read what the draft TDF statutes have to say about such forms of behavior). I will be perfectly willing to take part in discussion that is measured and courteous in its tone and content. :-) The implication here could be seen as insult. Putting lots of ;-) doesn't make your emails friendly when your tactics are not. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Marketing] Marketing team needs and Drupal site development
Le 2010-11-20 11:19, Italo Vignoli a écrit : On 11/19/2010 04:42 PM, Marc Paré wrote: The Drupal Web Dev Team are pretty active and, I have to say, very impressive. If you would have any input on these two threads it would greatly help us in setting up the site with the tool sets that we require on the marketing website. (I am part of the Web Dev. Team.) I think that we have to be careful in selecting the marketing stuff that should be featured on the web site (press releases and clippings, useful documents like backgrounds, market researches, etcetera, pics of relevant people, case studies, and in general every bit of information which might help in knowing more or writing about TDF or LibreOffice) and the discussions which should happen either on a wiki or in a private mailing list, about concepts and strategies, messages, and all the related information. In fact, although we want to be transparent, we have competitors who are willing to understand more about us, and therefore we cannot discuss everything in public. Thanks Italo The information needed is not for data but merely to help in establishing the structure; file format considerations etc. so that when the migration from the Silverstripe to the Drupal in early 2011 is done with the least amount of disruptions and as seamlessly as possible. We are not talking about data. For example, from my own perspective, the [Marketing Team] needs: * Ideas: area where team members can chat in public as well as a private area; public and private mailist; white board area to comment on design graphs or to rough sketch live for examples; mail capabilities for mass mailouts during campaigns; would like to see a mind map area * File formats: .png, tif, .jpg, raw, svg, all openoffice formats, MSO formats * Workflows / Procedures: work in progress -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development
I'll try to put some information that I think is pertinent and perhaps members will chime in and add other information of their own. The information needed is not for data but merely to help in establishing the structure; file format considerations etc. so that when the migration from the Silverstripe to the Drupal in early 2011 is done with the least amount of disruptions and as seamlessly as possible. We are not talking about data. For example, from my own perspective, the [Design Team] needs: * Ideas: area where team members can chat in public as well as a private area; public and private mailist; white board area to comment on design graphs or to rough sketch live for examples ... collaborative if possible (where other members can contribute live to a design sketch); a repository for artwork; perhaps voting capabilities for when members are asked to choose a winning design ... along with the capability to comment, some type of reference area where colour palettes are stored as well as design guidelines, FAQ section * File formats: .png, tif, .jpg, raw, svg, Photoshop formats, all openoffice formats, MSO formats * Workflows / Procedures: work in progress -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development
Thanks Italo: Le 2010-11-20 14:30, Italo Vignoli a écrit : On 11/20/2010 07:58 PM, Marc Paré wrote: * Ideas: area where team members can chat in public as well as a private area; public and private mailist; white board area to comment on design graphs or to rough sketch live for examples ... collaborative if possible (where other members can contribute live to a design sketch); a repository for artwork; perhaps voting capabilities for when members are asked to choose a winning design ... along with the capability to comment, some type of reference area where colour palettes are stored as well as design guidelines, FAQ section I think that work in progress should not be on the web site but on the wiki (white board areas, collaborative areas), while reference docs can be on the web site (colour palettes, design guidelines, FAQ sections). Agreed * File formats: .png, tif, .jpg, raw, svg, Photoshop formats, all openoffice formats, MSO formats PDF is mandatory, together with all standard documents formats, while I would avoid proprietary formats like PSD (PhotoShop). Have you ever had an artwork contributor send a photoshop file for the team to look at? If so, the Drupal site Team Devs will test the site to make sure that there are no hiccups if this is ever done. The list is not to support any of the files formats but to allow the Drupal Team Devs the change to test to see if there would be any problems on the site if there was any kind of exchange. * Workflows / Procedures: work in progress The Work in progress will not appear on the website nor will the Drupal Web Devs put it on the wiki. This thread is only for our internal check list to make sure that we have covered as much as possible as far as organising this section of the site so that the transitions runs smoothly. Again, work in progress should be on the wiki. The web site cannot contain work in progress, as it should be the basic source of information about TDF and LibreOffice, and people are usually quoting from the web site without double checking. The presence of work in progress on the web site is too risky, and I am totally against it. Completely in agreement. I would also object to such information that would make the team look disorganised. Thanks for the info. Just write in if you think that there are other aspects that we should check or if we should ready anything else for the Design site on the Drupal LibO website. Once we have organised the site we will ask for people to test it and for comments. Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 20:30 +0100, Italo Vignoli wrote: * Workflows / Procedures: work in progress Again, work in progress should be on the wiki. The web site cannot contain work in progress, as it should be the basic source of information about TDF and LibreOffice, and people are usually quoting from the web site without double checking. The presence of work in progress on the web site is too risky, and I am totally against it. Hi Italo, I fully agree with the sentiment, but disagree with your take on the ability of the platform in question. The wiki is a tool and one that only hides details from the general public by obscurity (well, without a fair bit of re-configuration anyway). A CMS on the other hand allows the website to be constructed in such a way that different content goes to different types of users - so a non-registered user could easily be kept from seeing any work in progress. while works in progress that need to be available to the community members are so, and even then can be controlled as to who sees what, and what they can do with it. So of course the wiki is a tool that is going be used, but the process of design, as is ongoing here, and then implementation via a CMS, such as Drupal or Silverstripe for that matter, is precisely a mechanism for delivery of a system that performs in the way you describe, IMO. Thanks Drew -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development
On 11/20/2010 09:04 PM, drew wrote: So of course the wiki is a tool that is going be used, but the process of design, as is ongoing here, and then implementation via a CMS, such as Drupal or Silverstripe for that matter, is precisely a mechanism for delivery of a system that performs in the way you describe, IMO. I do not mind about the platform. I know that when the information is on the web site it is considered official, while the same information on a wiki is not official (I can ask the press to amend a statement taken from the wiki, but I cannot ask to amend a statement taken from the web site). I assume that information visible on the web site are officially approved documents, while you can easily write on a wiki page that this is work in progress, and should not be considered officially approved. I do not mind what happens before the publication on the web site. I am not concerned of what happens behind the scenes, also because I am not a tech guy and most of the times I do not understand technology. -- Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation E-mail: italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org Mobile +39.348.5653829 - VoIP: +39.02.320621813 Skype: italovignoli - GTalk: italo.vign...@gmail.com -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development
On 11/20/2010 08:46 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Have you ever had an artwork contributor send a photoshop file for the team to look at? If so, the Drupal site Team Devs will test the site to make sure that there are no hiccups if this is ever done. The list is not to support any of the files formats but to allow the Drupal Team Devs the change to test to see if there would be any problems on the site if there was any kind of exchange. I am referring to what is published on the web site. I do not want to enter into technical details about the web site development and the tools used, as I am not qualified for technical discussions. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com Mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP: +39.02.320621813 Skype: italovignoli -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development
Le 2010-11-20 16:22, Italo Vignoli a écrit : On 11/20/2010 08:46 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Have you ever had an artwork contributor send a photoshop file for the team to look at? If so, the Drupal site Team Devs will test the site to make sure that there are no hiccups if this is ever done. The list is not to support any of the files formats but to allow the Drupal Team Devs the change to test to see if there would be any problems on the site if there was any kind of exchange. I am referring to what is published on the web site. I do not want to enter into technical details about the web site development and the tools used, as I am not qualified for technical discussions. Thanks Italo. Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] design+subscr...@libreoffice.org
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:30:23 +1300, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org wrote: Oops sorry, my mistake, please disregard :) -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 22:20 +0100, Italo Vignoli wrote: I do not mind what happens before the publication on the web site Right - and that is the key descriptor, publication. Your speaking as if there is only one view of the web site, there is not when under the control of a CMS system. There is a view that is published, official in other words There can be completely different features of the site visible only to those with valid credentials. Unless you are really concerned with the idea that there would be a lack of discipline in the site admin or user actions, such that some work item ends up visible at the official view. Also, there two sites TDF and LibO, isn't much of what you would be concerned with, as far as this official communication channel makes most sense at the TDF site? In some previous emails I've tried to argue the LibO site be about users and TDF about workers, but this is a good reason to rethink that opinion it seems. Perhaps it is appropriate rather to think of the LibO domain for the main work site, along with user support (distro, etc) and think of the TDF site as more of an official communication organ. Curious of your thoughts are on this. Thanks Drew -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Marketing] Marketing team needs and Drupal site development
On Nov 20, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Ben and Drew: Neat! I had heard of these groups but have not as yet seen any where I live. We are a university town with 2 universities and one community college. Google even has a large building near the University of Waterloo (a Research and Development Facility) and RIM (makers of the Blackberry) have their corporate headquarters here in town as well as manufacturing plants. IMO, this is a great idea. This sounds more like it should have its own thread for proper discussion and debate and it should also be included in with the: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas page. Thanks for the reminder. :) I've added the Street Teams idea to the page here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#Street_Teams -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development
I found it very hard to follow this conversation. Can we take a step back. The marketing list should not be the place for discussing website infrastructure. Quote of Initial email Needed: Please feel free to add any individual team requirements for the final Drupal based website. All requirements should be non-specific. ie. Instead of a wiki to upload documents to try a web based document control system. We care about detailed requirements here rather than proposed solutions. Thorsten's email reply was greatly detailed and something we can work off. Again. If you have a requirement, such as 'Draft work being private' please let us know about the requirements for a task, not the infrastructure that drives it. If anybody wishes to get more involved with the discussion about the infrastructure, can I suggest subscribing to the website mailing list. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition
A customer comes into the computer store. Im looking for a mystery Adventure Game with lots of graphics that is really really challenging. Well, replied the clerk, Have you tried Windows Vista? -Just something to brighten your day. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
