Re: marketing-list Digest, Vol 12, Issue 6
Andreas Nilsson wrote: YetZero wrote: On 8/8/05, Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis Villa wrote: On 8/8/05, Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing wrong with something to choose from though, so I would love to see some stuff by YetZero. Something that I feel we need is more posters for people to put up on universites and for booths at conferences and events. Totally! And I still owe you a first draft of some poster text :/ Luis Are you working on that? It is on my TODO, which is getting longer, not shorter :/ But I'm going to try. I'm really glad to hear! I was a bit worried there for a while that noone would volunteer and that I would have to write it myself in with my limited knowledge of the english language. Here is a png image of the poster if you need some inspiration: http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/officialdeskhappy.png Fun :) Luis I'm already working on some wallpaper-splash theme, and I can do the poster if you like, but I would need the text written. Also, I can make the CD cover if it's not made yet. I just need the texts. Maybe not so offtopic, is there any theme on the meaning of mood about this release? Maybe we could use it to give the whole artwork the same mood, I don't know if it's already done, or if the The official desktop of happy people is exactly what I'm talking about. Hope I'm not too confusing, this english thing is really dificult to me, sorry :D Just put my work here: http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/gnomelivecd/ Feel free to modify and/or criticize. I would love to have a look at your suggestions aswell. About mood, yeah, we really needs to work on that one. This stuff is very blue and so is osx, kde and to some extent windows too so maybe we needs to be the green, red or purple desktop in order to stick out. - Andreas Did some experiments with green instead of blue and some composition based on some comments on irc. http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/gnomelivecd/bootsplash-alt.png http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/gnomelivecd/background-alt.png http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/gnomelivecd/gnomesplash.png Is there some graphics I've forgotten about? - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: FOSS study in education
Claus Schwarm wrote: I stumbled over an article [1] written by Samps Okholm from Grant High School in Mt. Gambier, South Australia. He writes: Studies we carried out [...] showed that users' preference for applications to do specific tasks, is closely related to when in their education they were introduced to the applications. From the standpoint of another *informal* study conducted by me on students who are involved in writing out theses, I would concur. Swapping of MS-Office with OO.o 1.1.x produced disastrous results from both sides. At that point of time I tended to dismiss it off as conditioning which was anyway not completely cohesive as an argument since both sample groups used MS-Office at some point in their careers. Would love to see a proper study being conducted on this. Regards Sankarshan -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: In need for some text for a poster
Andreas Nilsson wrote: After chatting a bit with sri and claus over IRC the other day about GNOME-posters for conferences, I felt that it would be nice to have a bit more material for everything from the local LUG to a the GNOME booth at big software shows to use. I decided to use Sébastien Biots exellent poster Official Desktop of Happy People and to do some more work on that one. http://www.viralata.net/blog/archives/2004/11/30/gnome-identity-posters-and-a-few-more/ However, that poster lacks some good info text. I thought something along the lines of this would be nice, but I'm not a good copywriter, so I need someone to help me out with this one: Both luis and bolsh has volunteered to write this text, but I was a bit bored, so I took a shot at it. Please feel free to point out spelling errors and suggestions on the content. Do you, like many others fight an endless battle against spyware, worms and viruses? Are you worried whenever your budget can stand the cost of the next software upgrade? Do you have a creeping feeling that your software vendor actually screws you? You know, things like that don't really make your everyday life any better. Well, with the GNOME Desktop Enviorment you don't have to bother about things like that. It's really secure and won't cost you a single buck. You have a whole bunch of vendors to choose from and can make sure that you get a deal that fits you the best. We would like to welcome you to Linux and the GNOME dekstop. Welcome to the Official Desktop of Happy People! - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Yet Another Poster
Did another poster to match the Official Desktop of Happy People one. It seems like I didn't have support for thaiwanese, so that's currently three squares in the png. Will fix it later. Hope to do them as pdf soon, not sure how though. Scribus svg support is not satisfying enough yet. http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/poster-language.png http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/poster-language.svg - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Yet Another Poster
Andreas Nilsson wrote: Did another poster to match the Official Desktop of Happy People one. It seems like I didn't have support for thaiwanese, so that's currently three squares in the png. Will fix it later. Hope to do them as pdf soon, not sure how though. Scribus svg support is not satisfying enough yet. http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/poster-language.png http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/poster-language.svg Amazing work! Inkscape 0.42 (just released) has good support for i18n, supporting many more languages. See: http://eyegene.ophthy.med.umich.edu/inkscape/ Test i18n file: http://www.inkscape.org/doc/examples/i18n.svg whose screenshot is shown at http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.42-CVS-i18n.png The language you mention, is it Thai or Taiwanese? Thai is a distinct script while Taiwanese is similar to mainland Chinese. Typically Thai is difficult to render, as there is reordering of the glyphs. Simos -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: In need for some text for a poster
I had nothing useful to do so I made a drafty translation of a draft... so here it is: the text above in spanish!! ¿Sostienes, como muchos otros, una batalla sin fin en contra del spyware, troyanos y virus? ¿Te preocupa hasta cuando aguantará tú bolsillo el precio del software que utilizas? ¿Sientes que tu vendedor de software te está estafando? ¿Sabes? esas son cosas que no hacen de tu vida algo mejor Bueno, con el Entorno de Escritorio Gnome no tienes que preocuparte por cosas como esa, es verdaderamente seguro y no te costará un veinte. Tienes una infinidad de proveedores de entre los cuales puedes elegir para asegurarte que el trato que estás recibiendo es el mejor Nos gustaría darte la bienvenida al Escritorio de Gnome. ¡Bienvenido al escritorio oficial para gente feliz!2005/8/10, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi,I added the first draft to the wiki in the page MarketingTeam/PosterText- I figured that the kind of iterative polishing for something like thiswould be good wiki material.I would reccommend that we only modify speeling misteaks and grammar error's in the wiki, and suggestions on the style tone of the text gothrough the list.Cheers,Dave.Andreas Nilsson a écrit : Do you, like many others fight an endless battle against spyware, worms and viruses? Are you worried whenever your budget can stand the cost of the next software upgrade? Do you have a creeping feeling that your software vendor actually screws you? You know, things like that don't really make your everyday life any better. Well, with the GNOME Desktop Enviorment you don't have to bother about things like that. It's really secure and won't cost you a single buck. You have a whole bunch of vendors to choose from and can make sure that you get a deal that fits you the best. We would like to welcome you to Linux and the GNOME dekstop. Welcome to the Official Desktop of Happy People! - Andreas--David Neary[EMAIL PROTECTED]--marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.orghttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list-- Phrodo_00-- http://ideasenteclado.blogspot.comhttp://frodo-00.deviantart.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: In need for some text for a poster
Hi, So, following my own advice: Andreas Nilsson wrote: Do you, like many others fight an endless battle against spyware, worms and viruses? Are you worried whenever your budget can stand the cost of the next software upgrade? Do you have a creeping feeling that your software vendor actually screws you? In the wiki I removed the superfluous creeping and actually, but I don't like the phrase in general. I prefer something like Do you have the feeling that your software vendor doesn't care about you? We care :) You know, things like that don't really make your everyday life any better. Well, with the GNOME Desktop Enviorment you don't have to bother about things like that. It's really secure and won't cost you a single buck. You have a whole bunch of vendors to choose from and can make sure that you get a deal that fits you the best. I'd prefer not to insist on the not a single buck thing. It's secure, safe from virus infection, and its developers don't want anything back. You get to choose who you buy from, to get the support and features that suit your needs. We would like to welcome you to Linux and the GNOME dekstop. Welcome to the Official Desktop of Happy People! Can we take out Linux and? GNOME isn't just for Linux, and I'd like to see us establish our own brand presence (which might include GNOME applications on Windows soon) Also, we talk about the GNOME Desktop Environment higher up, here it's the GNOME desktop. I've changed both to the GNOME Desktop. So, finally: Do you, like many others, fight an endless battle against spyware, worms and viruses? Are you worried about whether your budget can stand the cost of the next software upgrade? Do you have the feeling that your software vendor doesn't care about you? You know, things like that don't make your everyday life better. With the GNOME Desktop you don't have to worry about things like that. It's secure, safe from virus infection, and its developers don't want anything back. You get to choose who you buy from, to get the support and features that suit your needs. We would like to welcome you to the GNOME Desktop. Welcome to the Official Desktop of Happy People! What do ye think? The rhythm from Andreas's text is good, I think. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lyon, France -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: In need for some text for a poster
I mistook the address (because I'm in windows using webmail), now I'm sending it to the list (I Hope)Andreas, here it is the whole thing. I'll be translating the language one soon El Escritorio Oficial de la gente feliz ¿Sostienes, como muchos otros, una batalla sin fin en contra del spyware, troyanos y virus? ¿Te preocupa hasta cuando aguantará tú bolsillo pagar las actualizaciones del software que utilizas? ¿Sientes que tu vendedor de software te está estafando? ¿Sabes? esas son cosas que no hacen de tu vida algo mejor Bueno, con el Entorno de Escritorio Gnome no tienes que preocuparte por cosas como esa, es verdaderamente seguro y no te costará un veinte. Tienes una infinidad de proveedores de entre los cuales puedes elegir para asegurarte que el trato que estás recibiendo es el mejor Nos gustaría darte la bienvenida al Escritorio de Gnome. ¡Bienvenido al escritorio oficial para gente feliz! Enterate de como puedes hacer más feliz tu vida en www.gnome.org2005/8/10, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi,So, following my own advice: Andreas Nilsson wrote: Do you, like many others fight an endless battle against spyware, worms and viruses? Are you worried whenever your budget can stand the cost of the next software upgrade? Do you have a creeping feeling that your software vendor actually screws you? In the wiki I removed the superfluous creeping and actually, but Idon't like the phrase in general. I prefer something likeDo you have the feeling that your software vendor doesn't care about you? We care :) You know, things like that don't really make your everyday life any better. Well, with the GNOME Desktop Enviorment you don't have to bother about things like that. It's really secure and won't cost you a single buck. You have a whole bunch of vendors to choose from and can make sure that you get a deal that fits you the best.I'd prefer not to insist on the not a single buck thing. It's secure, safe from virus infection, and its developers don't wantanything back. You get to choose who you buy from, to get the supportand features that suit your needs. We would like to welcome you to Linux and the GNOME dekstop. Welcome to the Official Desktop of Happy People!Can we take out Linux and? GNOME isn't just for Linux, and I'd like tosee us establish our own brand presence (which might include GNOME applications on Windows soon) Also, we talk about the GNOME DesktopEnvironment higher up, here it's the GNOME desktop. I've changed both tothe GNOME Desktop.So, finally:Do you, like many others, fight an endless battle against spyware, worms and viruses?Are you worried about whether your budget can stand the cost of the nextsoftware upgrade?Do you have the feeling that your software vendor doesn't care about you?You know, things like that don't make your everyday life better. With the GNOME Desktop you don't have to worry about things like that.It's secure, safe from virus infection, and its developers don't wantanything back. You get to choose who you buy from, to get the support and features that suit your needs.We would like to welcome you to the GNOME Desktop.Welcome to the Official Desktop of Happy People!What do ye think? The rhythm from Andreas's text is good, I think. Cheers,Dave.--Dave Neary[EMAIL PROTECTED]Lyon, France--marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Phrodo_00-- http://ideasenteclado.blogspot.comhttp://frodo-00.deviantart.com -- Phrodo_00--http://ideasenteclado.blogspot.comhttp://frodo-00.deviantart.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: In need for some text for a poster
David Neary wrote: Can we take out Linux and? GNOME isn't just for Linux, and I'd like to see us establish our own brand presence (which might include GNOME applications on Windows soon) Also, we talk about the GNOME Desktop Environment higher up, here it's the GNOME desktop. I've changed both to the GNOME Desktop. Yeah, GNOME runs on BSD and Solaris aswell and it would be stupid to downgrade the importance of those communities. I mostly put it there because I thought it would be nice to have the strong linux brand to appeal to people with. Your idea of extending the brand is nice and I don't want to conflict with that idea in any way. So, finally: Do you, like many others, fight an endless battle against spyware, worms and viruses? Are you worried about whether your budget can stand the cost of the next software upgrade? Do you have the feeling that your software vendor doesn't care about you? You know, things like that don't make your everyday life better. With the GNOME Desktop you don't have to worry about things like that. It's secure, safe from virus infection, and its developers don't want anything back. You get to choose who you buy from, to get the support and features that suit your needs. We would like to welcome you to the GNOME Desktop. Welcome to the Official Desktop of Happy People! What do ye think? The rhythm from Andreas's text is good, I think. Cheers, Dave. I like it, a lot. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: In need for some text for a poster
David Neary wrote: So, finally: Do you, like many others, fight an endless battle against spyware, worms and viruses? Are you worried about whether your budget can stand the cost of the next software upgrade? Do you have the feeling that your software vendor doesn't care about you? You know, things like that don't make your everyday life better. With the GNOME Desktop you don't have to worry about things like that. It's secure, safe from virus infection, and its developers don't want anything back. You get to choose who you buy from, to get the support and features that suit your needs. We would like to welcome you to the GNOME Desktop. Welcome to the Official Desktop of Happy People! What do ye think? The rhythm from Andreas's text is good, I think. Cheers, Dave. Done! http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/poster-happy.pdf Now print as many copies you can and spread it everywhere people! :) Javier, do you think you can fix a translation of the new text? (hopes this is final) - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: In need for some text for a poster
Hi, In Preview (I know, I suck) I only see the smiley face, no text - is that supposed to be that way? Cheers, Dave. Andreas Nilsson wrote: David Neary wrote: So, finally: Do you, like many others, fight an endless battle against spyware, worms and viruses? Are you worried about whether your budget can stand the cost of the next software upgrade? Do you have the feeling that your software vendor doesn't care about you? You know, things like that don't make your everyday life better. With the GNOME Desktop you don't have to worry about things like that. It's secure, safe from virus infection, and its developers don't want anything back. You get to choose who you buy from, to get the support and features that suit your needs. We would like to welcome you to the GNOME Desktop. Welcome to the Official Desktop of Happy People! What do ye think? The rhythm from Andreas's text is good, I think. Cheers, Dave. Done! http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/poster-happy.pdf Now print as many copies you can and spread it everywhere people! :) Javier, do you think you can fix a translation of the new text? (hopes this is final) - Andreas -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lyon, France -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: In need for some text for a poster
Hi, Andreas Nilsson wrote: Well Dave, it seems I suck aswell, because I uploaded the wrong file. Try again now, it should work this time. Better :) I know I'm being finnicky, but do you think you could change its developers don't want anything back to its developers don't want anything in return? I think it sounds just a smidgin better. And make your everyday life better to make your life any better, maybe? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lyon, France -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Yet Another Poster
ons, 10,.08.2005 kl. 19.05 +0200, skrev Andreas Nilsson: Did another poster to match the Official Desktop of Happy People one. It seems like I didn't have support for thaiwanese, so that's currently three squares in the png. Will fix it later. Hope to do them as pdf soon, not sure how though. Scribus svg support is not satisfying enough yet. http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/poster-language.png http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/poster-language.svg - Andreas I just want to make you aware of this before it hit gets printed or something :-) http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=preferred Or am I way off here and preffered is US English? Besides that, I really think it's a great poster. Cheers, Terance -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Is this really the extent of our booth?
Hey, http://www.linuxgreenhouse.org/blog/tim/midcom-admin/ais/midcom-serveattachment-34474/e_moglen_lwe.jpg Pictures speak a thousand words - I'm hoping the other section of it is a little more fancy. Glynn -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Is this really the extent of our booth?
Tim should have a few more pictures, but it was basically that poster, the two HP Gnome collage picture boards, some nice little brochures, and the two computer setups we had. If we could round up that Booth in a Box that a few people discussed a while back, it would certainly help. Though we may need some financial backing to afford shipping it around. Even as it was, we had a lot of interest when I was there yesterday. -Travis On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 12:10 +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: Hey, http://www.linuxgreenhouse.org/blog/tim/midcom-admin/ais/midcom-serveattachment-34474/e_moglen_lwe.jpg Pictures speak a thousand words - I'm hoping the other section of it is a little more fancy. Glynn -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: In need for some text for a poster
I thought I'd give the text one more native speaker parse, to make sure it sounds natural to a native English speaker: == Do you, like many others, fight an endless battle against spyware, worms and viruses? Are you worried about whether your budget can stand the cost of the next software upgrade? Do you have the feeling that your software vendor doesn't care about you? You know, things like that don't make your everyday life better. With the GNOME Desktop, your troubles are over. It's secure, more virus-resistant, and its developers aren't trying to lock you into their product. You can choose from a wide variety of GNOME software vendors to get the support and features that suit your needs. Welcome to GNOME -- the Official Desktop of Happy People! == I also suggest we make all occurences of GNOME and Desktop in the paragraph bold, as well as www.gnome.org at the bottom of the poster. Overall, I really like it! :) -Travis -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
