Re: Pixel photos

2013-07-12 Thread Allan Day
Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote:
...
  The idea is that these machines will rotate around.
 
  Might be a good idea to have a wiki page like for the events box then,
  or
  I suspect it might get forgotten about… (lets face it, people are lazy)

 Well, Matthias is in charge of the rotation and there's already a waiting
 list  :) A wiki page is definitely a good idea I'll try to get that
 started.


 That would be great. I think it will look really good if it's done in a more
 public way so that the community (and the donors) can see where the work is
 going into and how. It was actually not clear to me that they were supposed
 to be rotated between people before Andreas said so here!

I agree. It would also be good to know who has them, so we can make
sure that we have them at GNOME conference booths.

Allan
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Re: Pixel photos

2013-07-11 Thread Ekaterina Gerasimova
Guys, one of the *only* things that a lot of people get in FOSS in return
for their work is attribution.

I told you who the photos were by, I did not say that they were in the
public domain, the least you could have done in your press release is
attribute. Completely ignoring the fact that most works not in the public
domain is *not cool*.

This is not the first time this has happened. A photo of mine was used for
the Desktop Summit news post: that photo was licensed under CC-by and I was
not attributed. The Foundation therefore breached the license which makes
the Foundation liable.

By not complying with licenses, you put the Foundation at risk. Really not
cool, so please don't do it.

For the text:
- high-definition *and touch support*
- Intel donated only 5 laptops, not 6
- …Wayland as a result *of* this donated…

I strongly recommend that you list who received the laptops, who they are
working for and what they are working on for transparency reasons. If you
do not want to do it in the news article, I will blog about it as it is not
currently publicly available, which is not particularly open.




On 10 July 2013 18:07, Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Photos of two of the donated pixels. I tried to get photos from other
 recipients, but no luck. As far as I am aware, the following people have
 one:
 - Allan Day (Red Hat) from Intel
 - Alexander Larsson (Red Hat) the other donation
 - Carlos Garnacho (Lanedo) from Intel
 - David King (Red Hat) from Intel
 - Jakub Steiner (Red Hat) from Intel
 - Jasper St. Pierre (Red Hat) from Intel

 It would be nice to say who got them in the announcement.

 IMGP* are by Allan Day
 L1006499 is by me
 L1006502 is by David King

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Re: Pixel photos

2013-07-11 Thread Andreas Nilsson

On 07/11/2013 10:56 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
Guys, one of the *only* things that a lot of people get in FOSS in 
return for their work is attribution.
I told you who the photos were by, I did not say that they were in the 
public domain, the least you could have done in your press release is 
attribute. Completely ignoring the fact that most works not in the 
public domain is *not cool*.


Whooops!
This was a oversight from me. I'm terribly, terribly sorry. Shit. It's 
fixed now.
Again, thank you for doing these amazing photos on such a short notice. 
I really appreciate it!


This is not the first time this has happened. A photo of mine was used 
for the Desktop Summit news post: that photo was licensed under CC-by 
and I was not attributed. The Foundation therefore breached the 
license which makes the Foundation liable.


Not impossible that this was my fault as well. I will apply myself 
better in the future.




For the text:
- high-definition *and touch support*


I was about to add that, but realized it didn't say anywhere in the 
article about the touch support. It does in the image though :)




- Intel donated only 5 laptops, not 6
- …Wayland as a result *of* this donated…


Fixed!



I strongly recommend that you list who received the laptops, who they 
are working for and what they are working on for transparency reasons. 
If you do not want to do it in the news article, I will blog about it 
as it is not currently publicly available, which is not particularly open.


The idea is that these machines will rotate around.
You have a good point about transparency though and I could add to the 
article in who's custody they are right now though, to make clear that 
we didn't give them to the mob or so.

Is the list below solid?
- Andreas
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Re: Pixel photos

2013-07-11 Thread Karen Sandler
On Thu, July 11, 2013 5:23 am, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:


 Again, thank you for doing these amazing photos on such a short notice.
 I
 really appreciate it!

yes! They were really great! :)

 Thanks ^_^


snip

 I strongly recommend that you list who received the laptops, who they
 are
 working for and what they are working on for transparency reasons. If
 you
 do not want to do it in the news article, I will blog about it as it is
 not
 currently publicly available, which is not particularly open.

I think blogging about it is a great idea - I can do that too. I don't
like it in the press release as I think it reads better this way - naming
the individuals to me sounds like these people were given laptops, no
matter how much we try to frame it otherwise.

 The idea is that these machines will rotate around.



 Might be a good idea to have a wiki page like for the events box then, or
 I
 suspect it might get forgotten about… (lets face it, people are lazy)

Well, Matthias is in charge of the rotation and there's already a waiting
list  :) A wiki page is definitely a good idea I'll try to get that
started.

 You have a good point about transparency though and I could add to the
 article in who's custody they are right now though, to make clear that
 we
 didn't give them to the mob or so.
 Is the list below solid?

 Yep, I've spoken to all of them except Jasper about it.

Yeah, I confirm that too :)

karen

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Re: Pixel photos

2013-07-11 Thread Ekaterina Gerasimova
On 11 July 2013 15:10, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote:

 On Thu, July 11, 2013 5:23 am, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
 […]
  I strongly recommend that you list who received the laptops, who they
  are
  working for and what they are working on for transparency reasons. If
  you
  do not want to do it in the news article, I will blog about it as it is
  not
  currently publicly available, which is not particularly open.

 I think blogging about it is a great idea - I can do that too. I don't
 like it in the press release as I think it reads better this way - naming
 the individuals to me sounds like these people were given laptops, no
 matter how much we try to frame it otherwise.



That's fair. Do you think you would have time to blog today? I think it
would be nice to include an explanation of what is actually going on here
(and another of the photos from earlier).



  The idea is that these machines will rotate around.
 
  Might be a good idea to have a wiki page like for the events box then, or
  I suspect it might get forgotten about… (lets face it, people are lazy)

 Well, Matthias is in charge of the rotation and there's already a waiting
 list  :) A wiki page is definitely a good idea I'll try to get that
 started.


That would be great. I think it will look really good if it's done in a
more public way so that the community (and the donors) can see where the
work is going into and how. It was actually not clear to me that they were
supposed to be rotated between people before Andreas said so here!
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Re: Pixel photos

2013-07-10 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
Do you mind if I forward this to Dirk?


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova 
kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Photos of two of the donated pixels. I tried to get photos from other
 recipients, but no luck. As far as I am aware, the following people have
 one:
 - Allan Day (Red Hat) from Intel
 - Alexander Larsson (Red Hat) the other donation
 - Carlos Garnacho (Lanedo) from Intel
 - David King (Red Hat) from Intel
 - Jakub Steiner (Red Hat) from Intel
 - Jasper St. Pierre (Red Hat) from Intel

 It would be nice to say who got them in the announcement.

 IMGP* are by Allan Day
 L1006499 is by me
 L1006502 is by David King

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Re: Pixel photos

2013-07-10 Thread Ekaterina Gerasimova
On 11 July 2013 00:30, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:

 Do you mind if I forward this to Dirk?


Of course not, the archive is public anyway.



 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova 
 kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Photos of two of the donated pixels. I tried to get photos from other
 recipients, but no luck. As far as I am aware, the following people have
 one:
 - Allan Day (Red Hat) from Intel
 - Alexander Larsson (Red Hat) the other donation
 - Carlos Garnacho (Lanedo) from Intel
 - David King (Red Hat) from Intel
 - Jakub Steiner (Red Hat) from Intel
 - Jasper St. Pierre (Red Hat) from Intel

 It would be nice to say who got them in the announcement.

 IMGP* are by Allan Day
 L1006499 is by me
 L1006502 is by David King

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 marketing-list@gnome.org
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