Re: [Marxism] Liberal jubilation

2018-11-07 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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Moreover, the same pundits are touting the House election as a vindication of 
their suburban strategy. Whatever chastening effect the 2016 election outcome 
had is long gone SR


> On November 7, 2018 at 6:15 AM Mark Lause via Marxism 
>  wrote:

> 
> What i've found amusing is how many of the pundits and Democratic
> mouthpieces are now talking back the expectations that brought out many of
> those who voted for them.
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Re: [Marxism] Three strikes and you're out (we can hope)

2018-09-26 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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The allegations regarding the quaaludes and the drugging of drinks are, in some 
respects, the biggest bombshell of the entire scandal. Because such behavior is 
premeditated it goes beyond mere youthful indiscretion - no matter how reckless 
or culpable.  

If believed, these allegations are sufficient evidence of moral turpitude as 
would justify Kavanaugh's disbarment as a practicing lawyer, if a licensing 
authority would do that it is not clear that he would be able to continue 
serving as a Circuit Court or Supreme Court justice.

Hopefully Avenatti has other declarations in his pocket corroborating the one 
he has already submitted.

SR  


> On September 26, 2018 at 9:21 AM John Reimann via Marxism 
>  wrote:

> Attorney Michael Avenatti on Wednesday tweeted a sworn affidavit from a
> woman who alleges she was a victim of a gang rape at a party in the early
> 1980s at which Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh was present, and that
> she witnessed efforts by Mr. Kavanaugh to “cause girls to become
> inebriated” so they could be assaulted.
> 
> The woman, Julie Swetnick, alleged that in 1982, she was a victim of a gang
> rape at a party at which Mr. Kavanaugh and a high school friend, Mark
> Judge, were present. She says she told at least two other people about the
> incident shortly after it occurred. She said she believed she was drugged
> “using Quaaludes or something similar placed in what I was drinking.”
> 
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Re: [Marxism] Grappling With the Racism of the DSA’s Founders

2018-09-10 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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Howe's legacy is not insubstantial - just from the founding of Dissent back in 
the 1950s.  That journal has long been a leading voice of voices associated 
with DSA.  Whether or not it is now eclipsed by Jacobin is a legitimate 
question.

More important was Howe's role on shaping DSA's perspective on international 
matters.  Yes, he was a zionist but he was also a cold warrior.  Toward the end 
of his life, he supported the Gulf War of 1991. Not all DSA leaders shared his 
precise views on that point, but he certainly influenced them. Harold Myerson 
comes to mind. In 1991 he was a columnist for the Los Angeles Weekly and a DSA 
member. Myerson devoted a better part of a column of his to red baiting the 
main local and regional anti-war coalition, attacking it as being led by a 
bunch of Trots. Those attacks led to the creation of a rival coalition. The war 
ended before the new coalition did much of anything.

Whether or not the current DSA inherits the foreign policy views of Howe is - 
hopefully - doubtful because of the huge influx of new, younger members and the 
change of the group's character from a small largely paper organization to a 
much larger activist grouping. Given all that, the current DSA is more likely 
to be influenced by the politics of Bernie Sanders and less by Harrington and 
Howe. While that is problematic on its own terms, it is not addressed by 
dredging up the history of Shachtman, Harrington and the Coalition Caucus.  SR 


> On September 9, 2018 at 10:15 AM Joaquin Bustelo via Marxism 
>  wrote:

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> Yet, when I saw the name of Irving Howe my reaction was: "Irving who? 
> The guy who wrote World of our Fathers?"  So I'm not the one to judge him.
> 
> So that was the first reason I didn't include him. The second reason is 
> that the charges he lays against Howe are that he was a Zionist 
> (perfectly true, I gather), that he was part of the cold-war 
> anticommunist social democratic current years before DSA was founded, 
> and that he never completely abandoned some of those views.
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Re: [Marxism] Grappling With the Racism of the DSA’s Founders

2018-09-07 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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It is indeed a slander to link the current DSA with Max Shachtman.

The main predecessor organization to DSA, the Democratic Socialist Organizing 
Committee (DSOC) arose from  a  personal and organizational split of Michael 
Harrington with Shachtman, who died in late 1972 or early 1973.  Harrington 
announced his split with Shachtman in an article in the Nation in which he 
criticized, among other things, Shachtman's support of Richard Nixon in the 
1972 Presidential election. 

Shachtman died in late 1972 or early 1973 but his co-thinkers went on to found 
the Social Democrats USA. At no time was he linked to the DSOC, let alone DSA.

On the other hand, the legacy of Irving Howe - who is mentioned in the post 
that started this thread - is a real one, at least before the influx of new 
members. Even so,  whatever influence Howe's ideas - or those of Harrington, 
for that matter - might have on the 50,000 DSA members, would seem to be 
negligible. SR

> On September 7, 2018 at 4:04 PM Joaquin Bustelo via Marxism 
>  wrote:

> 
> This is a lying slime job against the DSA, based on the idea that the 
> DSA came into the world cursed by the mark of Cain due to Original Sin: 
> it was founded by the likes of Max Shachtman and Albert Shanker.
> 

> 
> Joaquín
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[Marxism] As California fire disasters worsen, insurers are pulling out and stranding homeowners

2018-08-31 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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The insurance industry is a signal of risk. The fact that the insurance 
companies are pulling back is a signal that the risk is too great, said 
Hill, who served as senior director for resilience under President Obama. 
And that, for all of us, should cause us to think how can we better 
protect against this risk.




That means thinking twice before building in the wildland-urban interface, 
Kousky said. But in a booming housing market where it is difficult for local 
governments to curtail development tax revenue, it could also mean constructing 
homes with fire-resistant materials and providing incentives for residents to 
clear brush on and around their property.




Then there is the solution that no one likes to talk about, Kousky said  
moving out.
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Re: [Marxism] What's behind the explosive growth of the DSA?

2018-08-15 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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Whatever else is to be said in this discussion, it has to be remembered that 
the appearance of this new incarnation of the DSA is quite unwelcome to the 
Democrat Party leadership who - although they want the votes of these activists 
- will resist and are resisting any attempt to influence the direction of the 
Party.  SR

- Original Message -From: Mark Lause 

People join the DSA not the Young Democrats. This is a conscious choice.The 
fossils hallucinators of FDR notwithstanding, the predispositions atthe base 
have a dynamic towards independent action.

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Btw, this is what I mean when I wrote that the victory of 
AlexandriaOcasio-Cortez and others represents a real victory for us. 
Thisexperience--and it will not encourage faith in the Democratic 
Party--willmark a new stage for us, one which we have not seen in our lifetimes 
thusfar.


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Re: [Marxism] No more suicides!

2018-06-08 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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Don't know about pre 1917 but there certainly were suicides among old 
Bolsheviks during the great purges of the 1930s,  where it was an effective way 
of cheating the executioner and avoiding the humiliation of a show trial.

Tomksi took his own life, he was among the most prominent to do so.  N. 
Bukharin dissuaded several other old Bolsheviks to not do so before he himself 
got rounded up.   

If memory serves, several of Stalin's inner political circle took their own 
lives as the purges unfolded.  SR

- Original Message -From: Andrew Pollack

(If I remember right there was also a wave of suicides amongex-Bolsheviks 
during periods of isolation before 1917.)



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Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders: National Democratic Party Has Been A "Failure" For The Last 15 Years - YouTube

2018-04-05 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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There has been push back in response:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/bernie-sanders-obama-anger-martin-luther-king-death-assassination-jackson-mississippi-a8289456.html
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[Marxism] Remembering the East L.A. blowouts

2018-03-01 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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https://www.scpr.org/news/2018/03/01/81235/fifty-years-ago-thousands-walked-out-of-east-la-sc/
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Yesterday Was a Good Day

2017-11-08 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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Regardless of the bigger picture, one has to admit it is amazing to see a 
socialist elected to the Knoxville City Council or  to the Virginia House of  
Delegates.

SR


Jacobin and DSA buoyed by DP "success".

https://jacobinmag.com/2017/11/election-day-socialists-carter-brisport-jentzen-singh-krasner-dsa
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Trump Torpedoes Europe’s Far Right

2017-06-19 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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How does one take this analysis seriously when it fails to mention, let alone 
come to grips with, the Corbyn phenomenon in Britain?  SR

- Original Message -From: Louis Proyect 


https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/19/trump-torpedoes-europes-far-right/
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Nearly half of U.S. voters support Trump impeachment, poll shows - NY Daily News

2017-05-17 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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The 42% approval rating cited in the article is generally consistent with the 
level of support Trump received throughout much of last year's campaign, so it 
is quite evident that his support is not cratering. At least not yet. SR


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Re: [Marxism] protests

2017-01-30 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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The two earlier posts don't take into account the apparent discord in ruling 
circles. 

You have Ex-President Obama praising demonstrations. It is most unusual for an 
ex-President, especially a newly ex President, to intervene in the public 
discourse in such a way.  It brings to mind Chairman Mao's exhortation to 
"Bombard the headquarters!" back in 1966. 

The Trump Administration seems to be acting out of weakness as much as anything 
else. The exclusion of the top military brass and the Director of National  
Intelligence from the National Security Council is arguably evidence of that - 
at least with the military brass, they surely would have been included had they 
been agreeable or at least subordinate to Trump's agenda.

The leading media outlets - WAPO, NY Times, CNN, etc. remain unabashedly 
hostile to Trump. This is in comparison to the Bush Era when most such outlets 
and pundits were behind the Iraq invasion, albeit differing over timing.  

So we have officially or semi-officially sponsored street demonstrations 
against Trump?

SR

- Original Message -


That is indeed the $64 question. One sign of hope is the rapid successionof 
mushrooming movements - from Wisconsin teachers to Occupy to BLM towomen's 
march to #nomuslimban - each growing for weeks before fading, eachsolidarizing 
with the prior one - but not yet any natural organizationaland political links. 
Thus the continued absence of almost any organizationbanners or placards at 
these events.

Let's hope some organic multi-issue grassroots assemblies - as well asformal 
united front arrangements at the top which the former can push -come out of 
this.
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Re: [Marxism] Putin Ordered ‘Influence Campaign’ Aimed at U.S. Election, Report Says

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Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), who on Thursday suggested it was time to start 
throwing rocks at Russia for interfering in our 
election, will lead the Senate Armed Services Committees new 
subcommittee on cyber threats, after being hand-picked by committee chairman 
and close friend Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).










Graham has been the Senates most vocal Republican challenging Trump over 
the president-elects repeated efforts to downplay and discredit the 
intelligence communitys findings that Russian operatives were behind a 
series of election-related hacks. A declassified report released Friday by U.S. 
intelligence agencies concluded that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a 
comprehensive cyber campaign to disrupt the election and aspired to 
help Trumps campaign.

Full at: 
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Re: [Marxism] Feral Animals

2016-12-19 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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But is it a pestilence?

The situation in North America, as well as Asia and Europe in all likelihood, 
is different than in Australia, New Zealand and in Oceanic islands where you 
have animals species that were long isolated from the major continents..

Here in many cases the feral animals are most often filling ecological niches 
made vacant by very recent human activity or in any event, by events in the 
past several
thousand years. Many ecologists who favor re-wilding portions of the North 
American continent advocate introduction of non native animals to fill such 
vacant niches.

For instance, feral horses in the western U.S. simply fill a niche occupied by 
the same species before it was extirpated on the continent thousands of years 
ago. That is but one example.
Another is the case of monk parakeets, which arguably fill the niche of the 
recently extinct Carolina Parakeet. Likewise, here in Northern California we 
have recently introduced wild turkeys. Although some of the locals
gripe about it, these birds or ones like them, were once native in these parts. 
 Even the feral pigs only occupy niches once belonging to hog like peccaries in 
many places.

The problem, if there is one, that David describes is more the result of the 
absence of predators.  The multiplication of feral pigs in Texas is similar in 
that respect to the problem of White tail deer abundance in much of the East, a 
problem which is attributable to the absence of large predators of any kind 
there, mountain lions or wolves.  I don't know if mountain lions still persist 
in Texas in any numbers, but the local red wolf- not a species but a 
coyote/gray wolf hybrid - has all but disappeared. Certainly the Jaguar is gone 
from Texas.  If those predators can be restored to something approaching their 
historic numbers I suspect the feral pig problem would cease to be so vexing.  
SR


- Original Message -


This is, of course, a human created situation and blame is enough to 
spreadaround for sure. The situation is so bad that 
therehunting...eradicating...the pestilence has created a 365 day per 
yearhunting season with no limits on how many pigs one can kill by any 
meansnecessary, up to and including fully automatic assault rifles, machine 
gunsand hunting by helicopter. 


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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: No concern for the opposition

2016-12-02 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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In the early 1980s I recall that older, most former, Communist Party members 
played invaluable roles in the movements I  was, as a student,  involved with 
at the time - anti-Nuke, Central America solidarity etc. - While they carried 
with them dreadful political baggage, of which I was then only dimly aware, the 
fact is that on numerous matters of practical application their advice was 
invaluable - how to organize demonstrations, phone banking, obtaining legal 
observers, organizing coalitions etc. I know that former SWP members have 
played and continue to play similar roles, roles that  can best be termed as 
mentoring, in various movements throughout the country - although each year 
there are fewer of them. 

I think what Mark describes are the consequences of the destruction, decimation 
is too mild a word, of the organized left in the 1970s and 1980s.  As a result, 
there is little if any institutional memory left for the newly radicalized to 
draw upon.  SR

- Original Message -
.

At some point, we really need to confront thefailure of the Boomers to passon 
the essential lessons we got had coming out of the radicalization of the1960s 
and 1970s. Whenever I see young people stumbling for understandingor trying to 
figure out how to have a demonstration, I get very flusteredwith them, but 
hopefully show it rarely. The real question is where thehell were the 
grey-haired activists who were supposed to help them learn towalk.

Where were the Boomers when Occupy was being led off like lambs to 
theslaughter, eh? And don't get me started about BLM or the Greens. :-)

ML



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Re: [Marxism] Useful info for those involved in Green campaign

2016-10-06 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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One of the things I found sad is the degree to which Millennials have bought 
into societal hype about entrepreneurship

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I wonder how much of this is attributable primarily to those in the tech sector 
- where the idea of the entrepreneur striking it rich through the IPO is the 
proverbial pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.  SR
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Re: [Marxism] seeking Henry Kissinger's endorsement

2016-09-04 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism

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I am betting that before the end of October we will see one or both of 
the Ex-Presidents Bush endorse Clinton, a move that will likely be 
trumpeted with great fanfare and most certainly little effect in number 
of votes. SR


On 9/4/2016 1:49 PM, Mark Lause via Marxism wrote:

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I do hope someone's keeping track of all the Republican cabinet members,
miscellaneous war criminals and Grand Dragons endorsing Clinton.  We should
widely circulate the list a few days before the election.

ML





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Re: [Marxism] Robert Reich on a new third party

2016-07-21 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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Sounds like Reich is channeling Lawrence Lessig,  who campaigned on that 
platform in the Democrat primaries and got zero traction.

- Original Message -From: Louis Proyect 

ROBERT B. REICHA Third Party vs. Big Money

The next move for Bernie Sanderss political revolution is to set up a 
third party (shall we call it the New Progressive Party?), whose primary goal 
should be to get big money out of politics. Nothing else worth doing is 
possible unless we reclaim our democracy, and we cant do that through 
our current Democratic or Republican parties, both of which are beholden to big 
money. 
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: "The Sanders Campaign Is Absolutely Destroying Us!" | Mother Jones

2016-06-05 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism

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Likely a sizeable percent of that 30% have deregistered Green to vote 
Sanders in the Democrat primary this coming Tuesday.  My guess is that 
there is a higher percent of Green Party activists in that 30% than in 
the remaining 70%. SR


On 6/5/2016 12:28 PM, Louis Proyect via M


(I am not sure how committed these people were to the GPUS to start 
with. Being registered and being a member is two different things.)


"The Sanders campaign is absolutely destroying us."

Those are the words of California Green Party spokesman Mike Feinstein,



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Re: [Marxism] Assadist website Zero Hedge implodes

2016-04-29 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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It is called "after acquired" evidence - in litigation this excuse is 
typically, when all other defenses fail, the last refuge of a scumbag employer.

- Original Message -

On 4/29/16 6:08 PM, Oliver Benda wrote:> "More importantly, and unfortunately, 
Colin also was revealed to be an> emotionally unstable, psychologically 
troubled alcoholic with a drug> dealer past, as per his own disclosures.>> All 
of these revelations were made clear to us /long after we hired> Colin/, 
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[Marxism] Airbnb Employs Two SEIU Alums...to negotiate with SEIU.

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http://sternburgerwithfries.blogspot.com/2016/04/seiu-caught-while-attempting-to-ink.html
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[Marxism] Egypt's Ultras: The movements and the state

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http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContentP/4/190515/Opinion/Egypts-Ultras-The-movements-and-the-state.aspx
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[Marxism] California State Faculty Union Calls 5 Day Strike in April

2016-02-08 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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http://www.sfexaminer.com/csu-faculty-union-leaders-authorize-five-day-strike-in-april/
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[Marxism] California SEIU split by minimum wage fight

2016-02-04 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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Pro-Business opinion piece providing good background on the faction fight 
within the California SEIU.



http://www.ocregister.com/articles/seiu-702697-regan-henry.html
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Re: [Marxism] On the rise of ISIS

2015-12-01 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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- Original Message -

If you read the "anti-imperialist" bilge about the rise of ISIS, you'd think 
that it was a conspiracy planned out in advance by American, British and 
Israeli spooks-


By the standards of the genre, it is a very thin conspiracy theory in that it 
does not even attempt to explain the motivation of the leadership and foot 
soldiers of ISIS.  Are they all automatons, idiots or in on the conspiracy 
themselves?  With the military record of ISIS it is hard to believe they are 
idiots.  It is even harder to believe that the ISIS leaders and their followers 
are in the pay or at the command of the US or Brits - given the certainty of 
death in the event of defeat and the high likelihood of it even in victory.  
Perhaps the best explanation is that ISIS consists of brain washed automatons 
in the control of the CIA or the Mossad or, for that matter, the illuminati.SR
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[Marxism] Union Faction Fight Spills onto California Ballot

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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-seiu-minimum-wage-paid-leave-2016-ballot-iniatiave-20151103-story.html
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[Marxism] On the breakthrough of the Israeli-Russian military alliance

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http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/23-09-2015/132088-israel-0//
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[Marxism] Chicago teachers contract talks break down: Impending strike?

2015-06-26 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/chicago-teachers-contract-talks-break-down-impending-strike-155928308.html#GOyznnu
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[Marxism] SEIU Tops in Bitter Internal War

2015-06-19 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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http://sternburgerwithfries.blogspot.com/2015/06/leaked-memo-seiu-uhws-dave-regan-wages.html
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[Marxism] L.A. Teachers land 10 percent raise in tentative agreement

2015-04-21 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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[Under the newly elected Union Power leadership]
 
http://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/teaching_now/2015/04/los-angeles-teachers-land-10-percent-raise-in-tentative-agreement.html
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[Marxism] Mexico: Bitter farmerworker strike in Baja California

2015-03-19 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-baja-farmworkers-protests-20150319-story.html
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Re: [Marxism] Chicago mayor election goes to April runoff

2015-02-25 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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Garcia wasn't the only union backed candidate running in what was a city wide 
election.

Any word as to how union backed candidates did in other races - such as 
alderman?

SR

- Original Message -From: Dayne Goodwin via Marxism 
marxism@lists.csbs.utah.eduSubject: [Marxism] Chicago mayor election goes to 
April runoff

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Garcia had the support of the powerful Chicago Teachers Union and itspresident, 
Lewis, who gave Garcia an immediate boost by videotaping anendorsement of him 
the week he announced his bid for mayor.

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Re: [Marxism] Lenin's Tomb on Charlie Hebdo

2015-01-07 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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Well that quote goes along with other verbiage - e.g. .sigh of the 
oppressed creature  which changes the connotation.


- Original Message -From: John Obrien via Marxism 
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Who wrote: Religion is the opium of the people 



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Re: [Marxism] Dog bites man

2014-12-03 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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- Original Message -From: michael yates via Marxism 
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But I have a feeling that the horrible heartbreak engendered by these killings 
is generating more and more rage, that we are seeing the resurgence of a black 
liberation struggle. One that will combine many different but connected 
tactics, build a cohesive strategy, encourage alliances with kindred spirits 
while maintaining its independence, learn from the successes and failures of 
the past, 



Sure hope so, but see this:

http://www.beyondchron.org/local-ferguson-protests-effective/


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Re: [Marxism] Assadistas deny Yazidis were ever in danger

2014-08-15 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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Exactly. That is my reaction.  Assad, Hezbollah and the Iranians have spent a 
great deal of effort to demonize ISIS, especially regarding its treatment of 
religious minorities, so it simply does not make sense for their 
supporters/cheerleaders to argue there was no peril to the Yazidis.That said, 
it is understood or believed there are elements of the old Iraqi Baath 
apparatus who are fellow travelers with ISIS.  One wonders whether those Iraqi 
Baathists might still have benefit of their old contacts in the West, if so 
that may explain what Andy is referring toSR- Original Message 
-From: Joseph Catron via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu=Also, while 
I may have missed something, I don't see what interestsupporters of Assad would 
have in minimizing the crimes of ISIS. I wouldhave expected rather the opposite?

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