[Marxism] US to train Syrian rebels

2015-01-16 Thread Ron Jacobs via Marxism
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Re: [Marxism] US to train Syrian rebels

2015-01-16 Thread Ron Jacobs via Marxism
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All I'm saying is curioser and curioser.

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Louis Proyect l...@panix.com wrote:

 On 1/16/15 8:56 AM, Ron Jacobs via Marxism wrote:


 http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0KP0FO20150116?irpc=932



 The U.S. military is planning to deploy more than 400 troops to help
 train Syrian rebels to fight the ISLAMIC STATE, along with hundreds of U.S.
 support personnel, a Pentagon spokesman told Reuters on Thursday.

 Yes, the USA trains rebels to fight ISIS, while Assad drops barrel bombs
 on the rebels. This is all part of the American imperialist strategy to
 consolidate a stable Baathist state over the ashes of a failed armed
 struggle. The NY Times report on the peace negotiations conveyed this
 exactly:

  “The U.S. has no irons in the fire,” Mr. Hokayem said. “It basically
  wants to maintain the illusion of involvement, while maintaining the
  reality of disentanglement and distance from this whole nightmare.”



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Re: [Marxism] US to train Syrian rebels

2015-01-16 Thread Clay Claiborne via Marxism
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Curious why the US has been saying for 4 years now that its going to start
training Syrian rebels any day now?
Curious why they keep lying?
Curious why you keep spreading their propaganda as if it had some substance?

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On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Ron Jacobs via Marxism 
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 All I'm saying is curioser and curioser.

 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Louis Proyect l...@panix.com wrote:

  On 1/16/15 8:56 AM, Ron Jacobs via Marxism wrote:
 
 
  http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0KP0FO20150116?irpc=932
 
 
 
  The U.S. military is planning to deploy more than 400 troops to help
  train Syrian rebels to fight the ISLAMIC STATE, along with hundreds of
 U.S.
  support personnel, a Pentagon spokesman told Reuters on Thursday.
 
  Yes, the USA trains rebels to fight ISIS, while Assad drops barrel bombs
  on the rebels. This is all part of the American imperialist strategy to
  consolidate a stable Baathist state over the ashes of a failed armed
  struggle. The NY Times report on the peace negotiations conveyed this
  exactly:
 
   “The U.S. has no irons in the fire,” Mr. Hokayem said. “It basically
   wants to maintain the illusion of involvement, while maintaining the
   reality of disentanglement and distance from this whole nightmare.”
 
 
 
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Re: [Marxism] US to train Syrian rebels

2015-01-16 Thread Ron Jacobs via Marxism
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Actually, just curious what they are really up to?  I'm not convinced that
your perspective regarding the rebels is accurate at all.  I also am not
convinced that they are all pawns of the US or Saudi Arabia and Qatar. I do
agree with you, Louis and a multitude of others that Assad and his regime
is criminal. I am not convinced that the US is propping up that regime,
despite their history of doing so up until the seemingly failed Arab Spring.

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Clay Claiborne clayc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Curious why the US has been saying for 4 years now that its going to start
 training Syrian rebels any day now?
 Curious why they keep lying?
 Curious why you keep spreading their propaganda as if it had some
 substance?

 Clay Claiborne, Director
 Vietnam: American Holocaust http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com
 Linux Beach Productions
 Venice, CA 90291
 (310) 581-1536

 Read my blogs at the Linux Beach http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/
 http://wlcentral.org/user/2965/track

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 All I'm saying is curioser and curioser.

 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Louis Proyect l...@panix.com wrote:

  On 1/16/15 8:56 AM, Ron Jacobs via Marxism wrote:
 
 
  http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0KP0FO20150116?irpc=932
 
 
 
  The U.S. military is planning to deploy more than 400 troops to help
  train Syrian rebels to fight the ISLAMIC STATE, along with hundreds of
 U.S.
  support personnel, a Pentagon spokesman told Reuters on Thursday.
 
  Yes, the USA trains rebels to fight ISIS, while Assad drops barrel bombs
  on the rebels. This is all part of the American imperialist strategy to
  consolidate a stable Baathist state over the ashes of a failed armed
  struggle. The NY Times report on the peace negotiations conveyed this
  exactly:
 
   “The U.S. has no irons in the fire,” Mr. Hokayem said. “It basically
   wants to maintain the illusion of involvement, while maintaining the
   reality of disentanglement and distance from this whole nightmare.”
 
 
 
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Re: [Marxism] US to train Syrian rebels

2015-01-16 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 1/16/15 11:22 AM, Louis Proyect via Marxism wrote:

I will let Craig speak for himself


My apologies. I meant Clay. I guess my long-standing affinity for French 
cooking explains this error--not the first time!

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