Re: [Marxism] bankruptcy of the "science"of electoral polling

[Ralph Johansen via Marxism]

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I just looked at what I wrote. It was the Literary Digest and not 
Liberty Magazine that predicted Landon over FDR.


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Re: [Marxism] bankruptcy of the "science"of electoral polling

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Mark Lause wrote

What needs to be remembered is that surveys and polling can be much more 
scientific than these contracted and commercial customer satisfaction 
ratings.


Most of what passes for polling and surveys in the American political 
universe are undertaken under contract for a politician or a party and 
aim at getting a particular result.


Put another way . . .

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA 



and bankrupt


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Re: [Marxism] bankruptcy of the "science"of electoral polling

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What needs to be remembered is that surveys and polling can be much more
scientific than these contracted and commercial customer satisfaction
ratings.

Most of what passes for polling and surveys in the American political
universe are undertaken under contract for a politician or a party and aim
at getting a particular result.

Put another way . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA
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[Marxism] bankruptcy of the "science"of electoral polling

[Ralph Johansen via Marxism]

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When in 1936 Liberty Magazine predicted Landon over FDR, it was so 
discredited that it soon folded.


But now we have what may be the ultimate bankruptcy of the "science"of 
electoral polling:


http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/09/the-cataclysm-notes-on-election-day-and-the-politics-of-exhaustion/:

"The polls all suggest that it will be a big night for Hillary. She 
either has a94% chance 
of 
winning, an84% chance 
of 
winning, or a71% chance 
, 
according to the alleged savant of analytics Nate Silver, who has been 
hedging his bets over the last two weeks. That’s a 23% margin of error 
for the leading pollsters."


From my inbox, New York Times running  composite poll data leading up 
to the elections:


09-12-16  Clinton 80%, Trump 20%
09-15-16  Clinton 76%, Trump 24%
09-20-16  Clinton 74%, Trump 26%
09-23-16  Clinton 73%, Trump 27%
09-27-16  Clinton 69%, Trump 31%
10-04-16  Clinton 79%, Trump 21%
10-11-16  Clinton 87%, Trump 13%
10-14-16 Clinton 89%, Trump 9%
10-18-16  Clinton 91%, Trump 9%
10-28-16  Clinton 91%, Trump 9%
11-01-16  Clinton 88%, Trump 12%
11-04-16  Clinton 84%, Trump 16%

Back in the 1940s, Gallop was exonerated by stating that the "science" 
needed tuning. After all these years, what will Nate Silver and the NYT 
and the rest have to say about this? --- Surely not class analysis?



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