Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Marxism the Jewish Question: Selected Bibliography

2009-11-17 Thread Ralph Dumain
Thanks. I got some main ideas out of a cursory 
scan of this article, but I'm confused at other 
points. Also, I didn't follow the historical 
exposition too closely. If I could read this is a 
bone fide English translation I'd do better. I'll 
just note the points that leapt out at me.

1. The author counterposes pseudo-materialist 
interpretations to idealist-culturalist 
conceptions, suggesting that both must be 
transcended. On the face of it I agree. I am 
uncertain about what his final view is, though.

2. He singles out Abram Leon as having the most 
sophisticated historical explanation, dissenting 
however from the notion of a people-class.

3. The quotation from Rosa Luxemburg reveals an 
underdeveloped aspect of Marxism, not only on the 
Jewish question, but on national questions 
generally. Without unpacking Luxemburg's meaning, it seems incredibly obtuse.

4. The author correctly points out that Marx's 
article on the Jewish Question is not entirely 
Marxist but marks a turning point in the break from Hegelianism.

Furthermore, he claims: Après Marx, les 
marxistes, à quelques exceptions près (dont 
Trotsky durant les années 30), n'ont pas analysé 
de façon exhaustive et profonde cette base 
séculière réelle.  [After Marx, the Marxists, 
with few exceptions (including Trotsky during the 
30s) have not exhaustively analyzed this deep and genuine secular basis.]

And of course he goes on to elaborate on this 
secular basis. But I want to point out something 
about Marx's essay. It is purely schematic in its 
contrast and positing of the relationship between 
the Sabbath and secular Jew, because in 
actuality, aside from not taking the trouble to 
describe the secular Jew in other than 
generalized stereotypical terms, Marx simply 
states that the Sabbath Jew is an illusory 
self-image of the Jew, contrasted with the real 
Jew, but without actually relating the material 
basis of Jewish existence to the form of 
consciousness known as Judaism, so as such fails 
to account at all for this religious illusion in 
the past or in the present, and most importantly 
its persistence from one epoch to a radically different ones.

5. The author does at some point relate the Old 
Testament as a form of consciousness to the 
material existence of the Jews in antiquity, and 
later, I think, but I do not understand this exposition.


At 04:08 PM 11/16/2009, yves coleman wrote:
http://www.mondialisme.org/spip.php?article1315

Here you will find many texts about the socalled Jewish question but in
French, translated from English, Spanish, Portuguese and Italian.
Specifically about your subject maybe you will find of interest the text of
Savas Michael-Matsas a Greek marxist (trotskyist) which has an original
point of view, even if I strongly disagree with his  political views on
Israel today.

You also have a book of Arlene Clemesha (a Brazilian Marxist) but in
portuguese


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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Marxism the Jewish Question: Selected Bibliography

2009-11-17 Thread yves coleman

Dear Ralph, you can write to Savas ( e...@ath.forthnet.gr ) and arlene
clemesha ( aec...@hotmail.com ) to know if the first has an English version
of his article and the second an English version of her book, or an article
in English related to your research.
I have never met them but they know me because I have translated articles
from them for the journal Ni patrie ni frontières. So you can quote my
name...
The Jewish Question has been recently republished with articles and prefaces
notably for the Trotskyist philosopher and 4th international leader Daniel
Bensaid but they are in French, as far as I know.
Enzo Traverso has extensively written on the Jewish question and I see that
some of his books are translated in English but I cant remember if he has
explicitly written about the Jewish Question of Marx. I'll check
Will look if I find any interesting things in French about your subject.
Yours
Yves

Le 17/11/09 11:53, « Ralph Dumain » rdum...@autodidactproject.org a
écrit :

 
 Thanks. I got some main ideas out of a cursory
 scan of this article, but I'm confused at other
 points. Also, I didn't follow the historical
 exposition too closely. If I could read this is a
 bone fide English translation I'd do better. I'll
 just note the points that leapt out at me.
 
 1. The author counterposes pseudo-materialist
 interpretations to idealist-culturalist
 conceptions, suggesting that both must be
 transcended. On the face of it I agree. I am
 uncertain about what his final view is, though.
 
 2. He singles out Abram Leon as having the most
 sophisticated historical explanation, dissenting
 however from the notion of a people-class.
 
 3. The quotation from Rosa Luxemburg reveals an
 underdeveloped aspect of Marxism, not only on the
 Jewish question, but on national questions
 generally. Without unpacking Luxemburg's meaning, it seems incredibly obtuse.
 
 4. The author correctly points out that Marx's
 article on the Jewish Question is not entirely
 Marxist but marks a turning point in the break from Hegelianism.
 
 Furthermore, he claims: Après Marx, les
 marxistes, à quelques exceptions près (dont
 Trotsky durant les années 30), n'ont pas analysé
 de façon exhaustive et profonde cette base
 séculière réelle.  [After Marx, the Marxists,
 with few exceptions (including Trotsky during the
 30s) have not exhaustively analyzed this deep and genuine secular basis.]
 
 And of course he goes on to elaborate on this
 secular basis. But I want to point out something
 about Marx's essay. It is purely schematic in its
 contrast and positing of the relationship between
 the Sabbath and secular Jew, because in
 actuality, aside from not taking the trouble to
 describe the secular Jew in other than
 generalized stereotypical terms, Marx simply
 states that the Sabbath Jew is an illusory
 self-image of the Jew, contrasted with the real
 Jew, but without actually relating the material
 basis of Jewish existence to the form of
 consciousness known as Judaism, so as such fails
 to account at all for this religious illusion in
 the past or in the present, and most importantly
 its persistence from one epoch to a radically different ones.
 
 5. The author does at some point relate the Old
 Testament as a form of consciousness to the
 material existence of the Jews in antiquity, and
 later, I think, but I do not understand this exposition.
 
 
 At 04:08 PM 11/16/2009, yves coleman wrote:
 http://www.mondialisme.org/spip.php?article1315
 
 Here you will find many texts about the socalled Jewish question but in
 French, translated from English, Spanish, Portuguese and Italian.
 Specifically about your subject maybe you will find of interest the text of
 Savas Michael-Matsas a Greek marxist (trotskyist) which has an original
 point of view, even if I strongly disagree with his  political views on
 Israel today.
 
 You also have a book of Arlene Clemesha (a Brazilian Marxist) but in
 portuguese
 
 
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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Baraka on Barack

2009-11-17 Thread Ralph Dumain
Baraka is and has always been a first class political asshole. How 
ironic that an erstwhile petty bourgeois bohemian turned anti-Semitic 
black nationalist turned Maoist jackass--i.e. a lifelong romantic 
pseudo-revolutionary--should now turn on people just like him and 
engage in all kinds of slander in support of Obama.

I think many leftist positions are empty gestures. Cynthia McKinney's 
candidacy was more a waste of time even than Nader's--and mentally 
retarded with her vice presidential running mate--and being a 
refusenik regarding Obama is also an empty gesture. However, one does 
not have to lie in order to vote for Obama as one's best option in 
unfavorable circumstances. But the dishonesty and self-delusion 
surrounding the support of Obama was and remains over the top. I am 
not scandalized because a bourgeois politician is a bourgeois 
politician, as that is to be expected. To get huffy over that alone 
is a waste of time. It's the specific duplicity embedded in our 
historical moment and Obama's rhetoric which was dishonest from the 
beginning, and vacuous compared to the cold war liberals of the past 
who actually intended to deliver for the labor movement and even 
civil rights all the while reinforcing the power of capital and 
empire. That anyone could actually take Obama seriously is an 
indicator of how right-wing this country actually has become, that it 
has lost all political perspective.

Baraka's position as such is irrelevant. Anyone could argue against 
various futile gestures of the left. The essential thing is to 
recognize how worthless Baraka is and has always been.

At 10:54 AM 9/9/2008, yves coleman wrote:
I think people can vote for whoever they want...but I  don't want to hear
their complains about the negative results of their votes afterwards !

Are Realpolitik and pushing Party X or Mr Y to do something they will
never do, are these tactics worth the trial ?

The problem as usual is the impotence, small size and small influence of the
Revolutionary Left everywhere.

Some people think there are shortcuts and they have THE solution. They are
wiser and they will fool the capitalist class. Well let's see the historical
results of their shortcuts.

These shortcuts have been practiced for more than a century with no results
whatsover anywhere.
The idea that if we dont chose the lesser evil the worse evil may win is not
new on the political field. It's the argument the Stalinists and Social
democrats use at every election in France. It's an eternal problem for any
revolutionary party or group who is not big enough on the electoral ground
to make any difference.

With this kind of reasoning, I should have voted Mitterrand against Giscard
in 1981, and for the SP candidate in the following elections, and Chirac
against Le Pen.
Or to take a more dramatic example I shoud have voted for the German
Communist Party against Hitler as Baraka likes to use antifascist metaphors.
Or I should have entered the French CP dominated resistance and help them
have a strike-breaking policy after defeating fascism with the major help
of American imperialism.
And if I was in Venezuela I would today support Chavez against its most
reactionary opponents. In Cuba I would support Castro, etc. And in
imperialist Israel I would support the Hamas.

If an individual wants to make these choices, I can only tell him don't
complain about the results and stop presenting your indivual choice as the
most sophisticated revolutionary tactics. You dont think it's worth fighting
for revolutionary politics, that's fine. But dont accuse me to be an agent
of imperialism, fascism, racism, etc. if I choose another option.

If a political group who claims to have an original and specific view about
history, class struggle, imperialism, socialism, etc. supports actively this
kind of position,  I can only say this group should  enter the party it is
supporting: enter the Socialist party in France, the Venezuelan party in
Venezuela, the Hamas in Palestine, the Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Baas in
Irak, the CCP Party in Cuba, the Democratic Party in the USA, the Talibans
in Afghanistan, etc. Actually that's what many leftists have done in the
past and are doing or supporting.
Have they ever succeeded to pushthese parties or movements to the Left ?
Not until now.
Can one can dream they will succeed this time ?
I have strong doubts about it.

Real Politik has a heavy price both in international politics and in
domestic politics. The interesting question for me is rather : why is Baraka
so desperate to pay this price ? That's a more interesting question than
debating about if one should vote or not for Obama (1).
Generally when political people make these choices, they have a whole
reasoning in mind, hidden practical ambitions, or illusions the situation
may radically change, etc.
That's at least what I have always seen in discussions inside the Left from
the leftists who supported the NLF or the Cultural Revolution and 

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] [marxistphilosophy] Re: Baraka on Barack

2009-11-17 Thread Ralph Dumain
My apologies. I responded to a post over a year old, and so my 
response has no current relevance. I should have paid attention to the date.

I don't think much of Baraka, though, as a poet or as a radical. 
Sometimes he hits the mark, but mostly he is a fool. I've seen him 
many times over the years in several cities. He's at his worst when 
engaging people in conversation, if that's what you want to call his 
interactions with others. He seems to be incapable of listening. And 
he is as politically irresponsible as anyone on the ultraleft. I 
remember one particularly disgusting debate with Paul Robeson Jr. in 
New York, which also involved black audience members insulting 
Robeson in the crassest possible manner. Now I think that both of 
them are sad cases, Robeson the more tragic one. Of all the times I 
saw Robeson discussing current events, I was embarrassed for him each 
time, since he never uttered anything but rubbish. He is exactly the 
opposite of the ultraleftist, constantly debasing himself as a 
booster of the flavor of the day, be it Jesse Jackson, David Dinkins, 
Mikhail Gorbachev, Bill Clinton . . . it's sad and sickening. I also 
remember Robeson Jr. sharply criticizing Baraka's irresponsible 
posturing. So as I said, what a turnaround for Baraka to lecture the 
left for not supporting Obama.


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[Marxism-Thaxis] Baraka on Barack ( old post and topic)

2009-11-17 Thread c b
At 10:54 AM 9/9/2008, yves coleman wrote:
I think people can vote for whoever they want...but I  don't want to hear
their complains about the negative results of their votes afterwards !

Are Realpolitik and pushing Party X or Mr Y to do something they will
never do, are these tactics worth the trial ?

The problem as usual is the impotence, small size and small influence of the
Revolutionary Left everywhere.

Some people think there are shortcuts and they have THE solution. They are
wiser and they will fool the capitalist class. Well let's see the historical
results of their shortcuts.

These shortcuts have been practiced for more than a century with no results
whatsover anywhere.
The idea that if we dont chose the lesser evil the worse evil may win is not
new on the political field. It's the argument the Stalinists and Social
democrats use at every election in France. It's an eternal problem for any
revolutionary party or group who is not big enough on the electoral ground
to make any difference.

With this kind of reasoning, I should have voted Mitterrand against Giscard
in 1981, and for the SP candidate in the following elections, and Chirac
against Le Pen.
Or to take a more dramatic example I shoud have voted for the German
Communist Party against Hitler as Baraka likes to use antifascist metaphors.

^^^
CB: Ok this is an old post and an old topic from 1932, but you are
saying one shouldn't have voted for the German CP against Hitler
!!!

^


Or I should have entered the French CP dominated resistance and help them
have a strike-breaking policy after defeating fascism with the major help
of American imperialism.
And if I was in Venezuela I would today support Chavez against its most
reactionary opponents. In Cuba I would support Castro, etc. And in
imperialist Israel I would support the Hamas.


CB:  Who _do_ you support ?

^^^

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[Marxism-Thaxis] post-Fordism and geographical scattering of the points of production

2009-11-17 Thread c b
Oddly enough in this post-Fordist era , Ford has a bit of a turnaround
from disater. And afterall, even Wall Street went broke these days

CB

http://www.ford.com/about-ford/news-announcements/press-releases/press-releases-detail/pr-ford-posts-third-quarter-2009-net-31244

FORD POSTS Q3 2009 NET INCOME OF $1 BILLION; CASH FLOW TURNS POSITIVE;
NORTH AMERICA PROFITABLE
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Reported net income of $997 million, or 29 cents per share, an
improvement of $1.2 billion from the third quarter of 2008. Pre-tax
operating profit totaled $1.1 billion, an improvement of $3.9 billion
from a year ago.   It is Ford’s first pre-tax operating profit since
the first quarter of 2008
Ford North America posted a pre-tax operating profit of $357 million,
its first profitable quarter since the first quarter of 2005
Reduced Automotive structural costs by $1 billion, bringing the total
reduction to $4.6 billion through the first nine months of 2009, and
exceeding the full-year target of $4 billion
A strong product lineup drove market share gains in North America,
South America and Europe as well as continued improvements in
transaction prices and margins
Ended the quarter with $23.8 billion of Automotive gross cash, up $2.8
billion from the end of second quarter 2009++
Achieved positive Automotive operating-related cash flow of $1.3
billion for the third quarter, a $2.3 billion improvement over the
second quarter
Ford Credit reported a pre-tax operating profit of $677 million, a
$516 million improvement from a year ago
Ford now expects to be solidly profitable  in 2011, excluding special
items, with positive operating-related cash flow
Financial Results Summary
 Third Quarter
 First Nine Months


 2009
 O/(U) 2008
 2009
 O/(U) 2008

Wholesales (000)+
1,232
 57
3,377
  (891)

Revenue (Bils.) +
 $   30.9
 $   (0.8)
 $   82.9
 $ (26.2)







Operating Results +





Automotive Results (Mils.)
 $446
 $ 3,385
 $   (2,493)
 $523

Financial Services (Mils.)
   661
   502
1,194
1,305

  Pre-Tax Results (Mils.)
 $ 1,107
 $3,887
 $   (1,299)
 $1,828







After-Tax Results (Mils.)+++
 $873
 $ 3,882
 $   (1,557)
 $ 2,381







Earnings Per Share +++
 $  0.26
 $  1.58
 $ (0.54)
 $  1.22







Special Items Pre-Tax (Mils.)
 $108
 $   (2,099)
 $ 3,265
 $ 9,484







Net Income/(Loss) Attributable to Ford





After-Tax Results (Mils.)
 $997
 $ 1,158
 $ 1,831
 $   10,619

Earnings Per Share
 $   0.29
 $  0.36
 $  0.61
 $  4.55







Automotive Gross Cash (Bils.) ++
 $   23.8
 $ 4.9
 $   23.8
 $ 4.9


See end notes on page 10.
DEARBORN, Mich., Nov. 2,  2009 – Ford Motor Company [NYSE: F] today
reported net income of $997 million, or 29 cents per share, in the
third quarter as strong new products, structural cost reductions and
improved results at Ford Credit lifted the company’s results despite
continued weak global economic conditions. This is a $1.2 billion
improvement compared with the same period last year.

Excluding special items, Ford posted pre-tax operating profits
totaling $1.1 billion, an improvement of $3.9 billion from a year ago.
 This marks the company’s first operating profit since the first
quarter of 2008.  On an after-tax basis, excluding special items, Ford
posted an operating profit of $873 million in the third quarter, or 26
cents per share, compared with a loss of $3 billion, or $1.32 per
share, a year ago.

Ford’s North American operations posted a pre-tax operating profit of
$357 million, its first quarterly profit since the first quarter of
2005.  Ford South America, Ford Europe and Ford Asia Pacific Africa
also posted   pre-tax operating profits in the third quarter.

“Our third quarter results clearly show that Ford is making tremendous
progress despite the prolonged slump in the global economy,” said Ford
President and CEO Alan Mulally.  “Our solid product lineup is leading
the way in all markets.  While we still face a challenging road ahead,
our One Ford transformation plan is working and our underlying
business continues to grow stronger.”

Ford’s third quarter revenue was $30.9 billion, down $800 million from
the same period a year ago. Automotive revenue is up $100 million from
a year ago. This improvement was offset by a decrease in Ford Credit’s
revenue reflecting a decline in receivables.

Ford reduced its Automotive structural costs by $1 billion in the
quarter, largely driven by lower manufacturing and engineering costs,
which included benefits from improved productivity, personnel
reduction actions primarily in North America and Europe, and progress
on implementing its common global platforms and product development
processes.  Through the first nine months, Ford has achieved $4.6
billion in Automotive structural cost reductions, exceeding its

[Marxism-Thaxis] YESTERDAY

2009-11-17 Thread c b
9 texts shared and 17 discussions started yesterday

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A-day-when-nothing-is-certain
by Anarchist Various
http://a.rg.org/text/6021/day-when-nothing-certain
This is a collection of some of the best writings to come out of the
Greek insurrections.

A Feminine Cinematics Luce Irigaray, Women and Film
by Caroline Bainbridge
http://a.rg.org/text/6022/feminine-cinematics-luce-irigaray-women-and-film
This book takes as its starting point an engagement with recent work
done in film theory on the question of gender and spectatorship

Four Dissertations
by David Hume
http://a.rg.org/text/6023/four-dissertations
The Natural History of Religion; Of the Passion; Of Tragedy; Of the
Standard of Taste

The Gesture of Writing
by Vilém Flusser
http://a.rg.org/text/6025/gesture-writing
A review on how the actual act and gesture of writing works. In
relation to thoughts and manifestation of thoughts.

The Indivisible Remainder
by Slavoj Zizek
http://a.rg.org/text/6029/indivisible-remainder
on F.W.J. Schelling, 248 p., 1996

Objectivity relativism and truth
by Richard Rorty
http://a.rg.org/text/6030/objectivity-relativism-and-truth
book

Philosophy as Cultural Politics
by Richard Rorty
http://a.rg.org/text/6031/philosophy-cultural-politics
book
Derrida on Time 
by Joanna Hodge
http://a.rg.org/text/6032/derrida-time
book

Сontingency, Irony, and Solidarity
by Richard Rorty
http://a.rg.org/text/6038/%D1%81ontingency-irony-and-solidarity
Book

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Request: Donna Haraway, Primate Visions
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6018/request-donna-haraway-primate-visions
If Anyone happened to have a copy, I'd be eternally grateful. Thanks.

REQUEST: The German IssueSEMIOTEXT(E)
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6019/request-german-issuesemiotexte
Does anyone have The German Issue from the journalSEMIOTEX! T(E)
The German Issue (1982) was originally conceived as a follow-up to
Semiotext(e)'s Autonomia/Italy issue, published two years ...

request: The Architecture of the City , Aldo Rossi, 1984
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6020/request-architecture-city-aldo-rossi-1984


Mennell, Stephen. Norbert Elias : Civilization And The Human
Self-Image. Oxford, Blackwell, 1989
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6024/mennell-stephen-norbert-elias-civilization-and-human-self-image-oxford-blackwell-198


Request: Derrida on Time, Johanna Hodge
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6026/request-derrida-time-johanna-hodge
This is only in hardcover and always check-out. would be so grateful
if anyone has this... thanks!

REQUEST: Objectivity, Relativism and Truth, Richard Rorty
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6027/request-objectivity-relativism-and-truth-richard-rorty


REQUEST: Loic Wacquant's Body and Soul - at least the intro and ch. 1
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6028/request-loic-wacquants-body-and-soul-least-intro-and-ch-1
many thanks!

REQUEST: Digital Tectonics, by Neil Leach 
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6033/request-digital-tectonics-neil-leach
Digital Tectonics, Neil Leach (editor), Wiley Publishing, 2004.

REQUEST: Cinesexuality by Patricia MacCormack, 2008
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6034/request-cinesexuality-patricia-maccormack-2008
Thank you very in advance... :-)

Request: Deleuze and Guattari: critical assessments of leading philosophers
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6035/request-deleuze-and-guattari-critical-assessments-leading-philosophers
I was wondering whether anyone has a copy of this? It is really
expensive to buy but a cornucopia of DG articles.

Request: Hannula, Suoranta, Vaden: Artistic Research
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6036/request-hannula-suoranta-vaden-artistic-research
I can't find this anywhere: Mika Hannula, Juha Suoranta, Tere Vaden.
Artistic Research - Theories, Methods and Practices isbn
951-53-2743-1

request Contra the Slovenians: Returning to Lacan and away from Hegel
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6039/request-contra-slovenians-returning-lacan-and-away-hegel
Noah Horwitz, Philosophy Today, Spring 2005, pp. 24-32 thanks in advance

REQUEST: Theodor Adorno (Routledge Critical Thinkers) by Ross Wilson
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6040/request-theodor-adorno-routledge-critical-thinkers-ross-wilson
Thank you very much in advance! :-)

REQUEST: Graham Harman: Guerilla Metaphysics
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6041/request-graham-harman-guerilla-metaphysics


REQUEST: Dominic Fox: Cold World
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6042/request-dominic-fox-cold-world


REQUEST: Geert Lovink - 'Dark Fiber'
http://a.rg.org/discussio n/6043/request-geert-lovink-dark-fiber


REQUEST
http://a.rg.org/discussion/6044/request
Pierre Legrand : Derrida and Law; Ashgate Pub Co, 2009

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[Marxism-Thaxis] Reading “Capital”

2009-11-17 Thread c b
http://home.mira.net/~andy/works/reading-capital.htm

Shortly after Marx’s death, Jevon’s theory of marginal utility gained
wide popularity and according to Engels:

“[The poor state of political economy in England] is the fault of
[Marx], to a great extent; he has taught people to see the dangerous
consequences of classical economy; they find that no science at all,
on this field at least, is the safe side of the question. And they
have so well succeeded in blinding the ordinary philistine, that there
are at the present moment four people in London, calling themselves
‘Socialist’ who claim to have refuted our author completely by
opposing to his theory that of - Stanley Jevons!” (Engels to
Danielson, 15 October 1888)

So this brings us to the question of when is a theory just ideology
and apologia, class interests masquerading as science, and how do we
know when there is science beneath the shell of ideology.

The first theory of the origin of surplus value was Merchantilism,
which claimed that profit arose in the sphere of exchange, that is,
merchants created wealth by selling things at more than they paid for
them. Unsurprisingly, the founders of Merchantilism were traders
involved with the East India Company. Next came the Physiocrats who
claimed that the soil was the sole source of value. In eighteenth
century France, this theory made abundant sense, especially for
landowners: the peasants produced more than they needed for their own
subsistence, and the rest of the economy operated by circulating that
surplus. Unsurprisingly again, the founder of Physiocracy, Quesnay,
was himself a landowner. Nowadays, the idea that capital is the source
of value, institutionalised in the going rate of interest on savings,
appears to be an irrefutable fact; no-one who wants to get rich works.
So, we can understand how the idea of “socially necessary labour” as
the substance of value, and surplus value arising from the
exploitation of wage-labour have a clear ideological function in the
formation of the proletariat as a class for itself. Conversely,
attacks on the labour theory of value will be seen as attacks on the
workers movement. In other words, all theories of the measure of value
and source of surplus value have directly reflected a particular class
standpoint.

Marx’s British followers reacted to the Marginalist attacks on Marx
accordingly, and a theory Jevons had about sun spots being the cause
of the business cycle provided a fine opportunity to subject him and
his theories to ridicule. The marginal theory is after all little more
than a development of the supply-and-demand theory which Marx shows to
be relevant only to short-term surface phenomena, and unable to
explain, for example, why a car is worth more than a diamond. But
historians of economic theory talk about the Marginalist Revolution
because in the 1860s Jevons, Manger and Walras introduced quite new
methods which transformed economic theory and we have to ask whether
it is feasible to dismiss the whole of modern economic theory as a
‘variation on supply-and-demand’ even though it has its roots in this
idea. However imperfectly, modern macro-economics deals with economic
wholes. Can we rest on the claim that everything after Ricardo was
ideology? The only writer I know who has taken a genuinely critical
stance towards modern economic theory is Luc Boltanski and his
collaborator Eve Chiapello. These writers have made a deep critique of
the management literature of the 1980s especially, relating it to the
demands of the movements of 1968. Boltanski shows that radical
criticism of capitalism is often reflected in subsequent changes in
the practices of the ruling class, something by no means limited to
the generation of ‘68.

Transparently ‘political’ issues are to be found all through the pages
of Capital which bristles with ethical language. For example, the
concept of necessary and surplus labour, surplus labour being labour
performed over and above what the worker is paid for their sustenance,
and appropriated without payment. For example, the proof, taken over
from Smith, that other things being equal, the labour market will
force wages down to the socially necessary minimum level needed to
keep them alive and raise the next generation of workers, and that
workers can gain wage rises by industrial action, without losing the
value of their pay rise through inflation, but on the contrary
increasing the workers’ share of the total product.

The idea of dividing up capital between constant (goods and services
purchased off other capitalists and consumed in production) and
variable (wages) and surplus value (lumping rent, interest and
corporate largesse in with profits) and then measuring this over the
cycle of turnover of capital rather than per annum, just makes no
sense within the business of profit-making, but makes abundant sense
from the standpoint of the workers.

In other words, I think there is plenty of evidence that Harry
Cleaver’s claim 

[Marxism-Thaxis] Reading “Capital”

2009-11-17 Thread c b
http://home.mira.net/~andy/works/reading-capital.htm

Political economy is the system of thought forms within which people
live by producing and exchanging commodities, and Capital demonstrated
this – the whole universe of sweat-shops, insurance companies,
industrial corporations, multimillionaires, famines and wars flows
from commodity production. Within such a world, in the main, the
concepts of political economy are valid to the extent that they are
connected with practice rather than apologetic “Just So” myths. The
struggle against capitalism is therefore the struggle against that
world of a particular kind of inverted consciousness, one in which
social relations between people take the form of relations between
things.

But in a letter to Kugelmann on 28 December 1862, Marx says of the
soon-to-be-published book: “It is a sequel to Part I, but will appear
on its own under the title, Capital, with A Contribution to the
Critique of Political Economy as merely the subtitle.” Marx worked
hard to get the book noticed and criticised by the professional
economists of his day, and clearly wanted to engage them in debate.

In the letter to Kugelmann of 11 July 1868, he says:

“... it shows the depth of degradation reached by these priests of the
bourgeoisie: while workers and even manufacturers and merchants have
understood my book and made sense of it, these ‘learned scribes’ (!)
complain that I make excessive demands on their comprehension.”

And while he was most interested in getting it to workers, criticising
Lassalle for not working harder to encourage workers to read it, he
certainly aimed at taking his fight into the recognised scientific
circles. He believed (and with good reason) that his work engaged in a
meaningful way with mainstream economic theory; it did not live in a
parallel universe. Marx complained that he was being met with a
conspiracy of silence, but history shows that Capital did get the
recognition it deserved, and Capital haunts bourgeois economics to
this day, like the ghost of its dead father.

The point is that prices, profits, rents and so on are, in Marx’s
scheme of things, merely surface appearances, like the froth and
bubbles on the surface of the ocean, the forms of which tell us little
about the main business of tidal shifts and melting ice-packs. Marx
begins with the concept of bourgeois society and moves to more and
more concrete concepts, that is to say, he reconstructs the concrete,
the appearances, in scientific terms. In such an approach the effect
of a drought in Australia on mortgage rates in the US, and so on,
belong somewhere in Volume XX. They are not excluded, but it is the
dynamics of class relations which are fundamental and central.

So in summary, Capital remains an unfinished work and it seems
unlikely that the job of finishing it to the point where it could
provide a superior tool for management of government or corporate
economic affairs will ever be completed, were it to remain the work of
an isolated individual. Basically it is a practical task. With the
partial exception of Boltanski, the theoretical work of critiquing
political economy seems to have died with Marx. So far as I know, none
of the “Marxist Economists” have critiqued the theory of marginal
utility beyond denouncing it as an ideological apology aimed at
discrediting Marx and demobilizing the workers’ movement (all of which
may well be true, by the way). There have been a plethora of new
economic forms of activity since 1883. Marx never knew Taylorism,
which completely transformed work practices, the social division of
labour and the composition of the working class. He never knew
Fordism, which completely transformed the form of exploitation, the
concept of a living wage, and the nature of working-class communities;
he never knew the welfare state with its system of universal
state-provided benefits, or Toyota-ism and its appropriation of worker
cooperation for the benefit of capital, or the practices of
franchising, out-sourcing, the practice of part-time working, and the
export of manufacture to non-union industrial zones in far-off
countries, or the inflow of economic migrants to the former colonial
centres. All these represent transformations in political economy, not
anticipated in Capital.

Just one example: in Marx’s day, workers were basically locked in a
large building to work under their own supervision for as long as the
capitalist could force them to using the weapon of keeping wages at
near-starvation level. This way of thinking is directly reflected in
the categories of Capital because that’s how capital worked. But this
is no longer the case in the countries where capital predominates.

So those who read Capital to learn Marx’s “method” have a point. Even
some very fundamental features of Capital may no longer be relevant.
And what is more, it is fair to suppose that later development in the
activity of capital must, in some sense at least, come closer to the
essence, the 

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Baraka on Barack ( old post and topic)

2009-11-17 Thread Ralph Dumain
When I responded to your recent posts, I found this old post sitting 
right next to it in alphabetical order in my in box. I should have 
been more attentive, but this is what sleep deprivation does to a 
person: you just keep going on semiautomatic pilot.

The Obama presidency is already dead in the water, and I'm not so 
much interested in debating the Middle East. My interest in the 
Jewish question, for example, is mostly historical, but I find it 
remains such a hot issue that I can't say anything at all about the 
Jews in any capacity without others immediately connecting it to 
Israel and denouncing me as a Zionist, though I've never written a 
single word in support of Israel of any of its policies, and I'm 
generally interested in questions unconnected to the Middle East. I'm 
not so much interested in making a political intervention as cleaning 
up the polluted rhetoric that effectively detracts from clarification 
and intelligent intervention, and I'm only interested in doing that 
because of the filth I'm constantly exposed to on the Internet even 
while minding my own business.

However, as I've insisted, the politics of desperation and 
spectatorship are symptomatic of the moribund state of the left, if 
not everywhere in the world, anywhere I've had contact with people. 
And there's another point I made some time ago that didn't get 
noticed. It's quite one thing for people in the region to take 
extreme positions out of desperation, or to confront the problem 
concretely without taking on a more sophisticated perspective. It's 
quite another for spectators a half world away with no particular 
connection to the Middle East acting like rabid dogs. On the 
contrary, it's just because of the distance that political 
spectators--who may also double as useless activists--from the 
scene of the carnage, need to be exercise greater clarity in their 
grasp of the historical logic of the situation and in their agitprop. 
But just the opposite is happening.

Secondly, there's the question of the corruption of young minds being 
recruited into radicalism by sectarian organizations. I'm not proud 
of what I was thinking as a teenager, and I see 20-year olds now, 
gung ho fresh converts to radicalism, adopting the most awful sound 
bite approaches to political problems, worst of all the impossible 
politics of the Middle East, without any background of historical 
depth or personal life experience. It's all the politics of empty gesture.

What does it in fact mean to support anyone long distance? What is 
the significance of taking a position? It's child's play who decide 
to be against, but who is there there to be for?

The degeneration of politics, including oppositional politics, makes 
it increasingly impossible to simply take a position backing any 
particularly political player? If there's anything worse than secular 
nationalism, it's religious nationalism. If there's anything worse 
than bourgeois politics with a democratic face, it's outright fascist 
politics. Who then is there to back, especially from thousands of miles away?

I don't trust the left to do anything competently. Pointless 
floundering is its stock-in-trade.

At 08:54 AM 11/17/2009, yves coleman wrote:
I dont know why this old post comes up now, a year later after it was posted
!

To answer your questions. I dont know what I would do if I was an isolated
individual who wanted to do something in an unfavorable situation both for
me and for the working class historically. The decision would depend on many
specific factors I cant list here and which would be more related to fiction
than to reality.
If I was in a position to form a group or to join a group defending class
positions I would not loose my time in Stalinist (German CP) or
nationalist-antisemtic (Hamas) or third wordist groups (Chavez party).

As regards the Hamas, I would not even try because they would probably kill
me given my opposition both to religion, clerical fascism and antisemitism.

And if I was living in Venezuela today (which I did many years ago) I would
knock on the door of El Libertario and see if their acts correspond to their
nice words... And then decide.


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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Baraka on Barack ( old post and topic)

2009-11-17 Thread c b
On 11/17/09, Ralph Dumain rdum...@autodidactproject.org wrote:
 When I responded to your recent posts, I found this old post sitting
 right next to it in alphabetical order in my in box. I should have
 been more attentive, but this is what sleep deprivation does to a
 person: you just keep going on semiautomatic pilot.

 The Obama presidency is already dead in the water, and I'm not so
 much interested in debating the Middle East. My interest in the
 Jewish question, for example, is mostly historical, but I find it
 remains such a hot issue that I can't say anything at all about the
 Jews in any capacity without others immediately connecting it to
 Israel and denouncing me as a Zionist, though I've never written a
 single word in support of Israel of any of its policies, and I'm
 generally interested in questions unconnected to the Middle East. I'm
 not so much interested in making a political intervention as cleaning
 up the polluted rhetoric that effectively detracts from clarification
 and intelligent intervention, and I'm only interested in doing that
 because of the filth I'm constantly exposed to on the Internet even
 while minding my own business.

 However, as I've insisted, the politics of desperation and
 spectatorship are symptomatic of the moribund state of the left, if
 not everywhere in the world, anywhere I've had contact with people.
 And there's another point I made some time ago that didn't get
 noticed. It's quite one thing for people in the region to take
 extreme positions out of desperation, or to confront the problem
 concretely without taking on a more sophisticated perspective. It's
 quite another for spectators a half world away with no particular
 connection to the Middle East acting like rabid dogs.

^
CB:  Somebody told me the other day that half the Israeli army has
duel Israeli-US citizenship (?)

^


On the
 contrary, it's just because of the distance that political
 spectators--who may also double as useless activists--from the
 scene of the carnage, need to be exercise greater clarity in their
 grasp of the historical logic of the situation and in their agitprop.
 But just the opposite is happening.

 Secondly, there's the question of the corruption of young minds being
 recruited into radicalism by sectarian organizations. I'm not proud
 of what I was thinking as a teenager, and I see 20-year olds now,
 gung ho fresh converts to radicalism, adopting the most awful sound
 bite approaches to political problems, worst of all the impossible
 politics of the Middle East, without any background of historical
 depth or personal life experience. It's all the politics of empty gesture.

 What does it in fact mean to support anyone long distance? What is
 the significance of taking a position? It's child's play who decide
 to be against, but who is there there to be for?

 The degeneration of politics, including oppositional politics, makes
 it increasingly impossible to simply take a position backing any
 particularly political player? If there's anything worse than secular
 nationalism, it's religious nationalism. If there's anything worse
 than bourgeois politics with a democratic face, it's outright fascist
 politics. Who then is there to back, especially from thousands of miles away?

 I don't trust the left to do anything competently. Pointless
 floundering is its stock-in-trade.

 At 08:54 AM 11/17/2009, yves coleman wrote:
 I dont know why this old post comes up now, a year later after it was posted
 !
 
 To answer your questions. I dont know what I would do if I was an isolated
 individual who wanted to do something in an unfavorable situation both for
 me and for the working class historically. The decision would depend on many
 specific factors I cant list here and which would be more related to fiction
 than to reality.
 If I was in a position to form a group or to join a group defending class
 positions I would not loose my time in Stalinist (German CP) or
 nationalist-antisemtic (Hamas) or third wordist groups (Chavez party).
 
 As regards the Hamas, I would not even try because they would probably kill
 me given my opposition both to religion, clerical fascism and antisemitism.
 
 And if I was living in Venezuela today (which I did many years ago) I would
 knock on the door of El Libertario and see if their acts correspond to their
 nice words... And then decide.


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[Marxism-Thaxis] Reading “Capital”

2009-11-17 Thread c b
Implicit in the concept of value is the notion of the intrinsic
equality of human beings.

^^
CB: Yes indeedy.  Marx's concept of value is radically egalitarian.


from Reading “Capital”  by Andy Blunden


So what is involved is the transhistorical necessity of every society
making some arrangement or other for the distribution of the social
labour and its products. This is what is contained in the concept of
value. Implicit in the concept of value is the notion of the intrinsic
equality of human beings. In an emphatically world economy in which
capital based, for example, in the US, is manufacturing in India and
drastically underpaying labour, we have an instance of price being
less than value for long periods of time. But once ‘the great mass of
the produce of labour takes the form of commodities [and]
consequently, the dominant relation between man and man, is that of
owners of commodities’, there is a necessary tendency towards the
equalisation of wages, which nonetheless may take centuries of war and
revolution to exert itself.

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[Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-17 Thread c b
Andy Blunden September 2005

http://home.mira.net/~andy/works/foucault.htm

Foucault’s Discursive Subject
Foucault is credited with “deconstruction of the subject,” but in
reality what Foucault has given us is a critique of the Cartesian
subject, the intuitively-given individual subject deemed the original
site of all cognitive representation and social action. Foucault’s
critique is a continuation of the structuralist project of weakening
the concept of agency, a critique which has contributed to the actual
demolition of subjectivity since the 1980s.

In The History of Sexuality Volume 1, Foucault demonstrates that even
such a basic human need as sexuality is socially constructed; there is
no “pre-social” sex drive.

Sexuality must not be thought of as a kind of natural given which
power tries to hold in check, or as an obscure domain which knowledge
tries gradually to uncover. It is the name that can be given to a
historical construct: not a furtive reality that is difficult to
grasp, but a great surface network in which the stimulation of bodies,
the intensification of pleasures, the incitement to discourse, the
formation of special knowledges, the strengthening of controls and
resistances, are linked to one another, in accordance with a few major
strategies of knowledge and power. [p. 106]

Even if deep down in the human organism there is some need for food,
warmth, love and sexual intercourse, psychoanalysis notwithstanding,
it has been amply demonstrated that such ‘essential’ drives and needs
are buried so deep beneath elastic and socially constructed
interpretations, that the constructivist hypothesis is by far the more
relevant as opposed to the essentialist, at least for the purposes of
understanding modern society. Human beings are their own product; our
essence is nothing but the need to negate and produce our own being;
humanity is essentially non-essential.

If a person’s needs do not originate in an individual’s ‘inner
nature’, but are socially constructed, the same is even more true of
cognition, the activity of understanding the world, which is shaped by
socially available discourse and objectified in books, artefacts,
languages, institutions, etc., etc. This word ‘discourse’ is central
to Foucault of course.

“We must not imagine a world of discourse divided between accepted
discourse and excluded discourse, or between the dominant discourse
and the dominated one; but as a multiplicity of discursive elements
that can come into play in various strategies.” [p. 100]

Here the concept of ‘discourse’ is like that of ‘paradigm’ in that
both arguments ‘for’ and ‘against’ are posed within the terms of a
single all-embracing ‘language.’

“It is this distribution that we must reconstruct, with the things
said and those concealed, ... the variants and different effects –
according to who is speaking, his position of power, the institutional
context in which he happens to be situated ...” [p. 100]

An argument cannot be criticised just in its own terms; analysis must
reveal the unspoken ‘outside’ of discourse, and how discourse shapes
relations of power by the implicit relations between the speaker and
what is spoken. But it should be noted that ‘discourse’ is for
Foucault, a social and material, rather than purely ideal or
linguistic category:

“it is in discourse that power and knowledge are joined together.” [p. 100]

Such a view leaves room for agency at the margins, so to speak:

“Discourse transmits and produces power; it reinforces it, but also
undermines and exposes it, renders it fragile and makes it possible to
thwart it. ...” [p. 101]

If both a person’s needs and understanding are socially constructed,
the same is even more true of agency, in which people attempt to
assert themselves in the social field.

Is it possible to talk of power that is not the power of some subject?
‘Power’ is for Foucault like an Hegelian Spirit, a “ruse of history,”
an almost metaphysical substance. “Power is everywhere; not because it
embraces everything, but because it comes from everywhere,” and “one
is always ‘inside’ power, there is no ‘escaping’ it.”

For Foucault, it is in principle impossible to oppose power, because
it is only with power that power can be opposed, an observation that
is possible once one has made ‘power’ into an undifferentiated
metaphysical substance, detachable from the agents whose power it is.
“Power comes from below; that is, there is no binary and
all-encompassing opposition between rulers and ruled at the root of
power relations, and serving as a general matrix. – no such duality
extending from the top down and reacting on more and more limited
groups to the very depths of the social body.” [p. 93]

“Where there is power, there is resistance, and yet, or rather
consequently, this resistance is never in a position of exteriority in
relation to power. Should it be said that one is always ‘inside’
power, there is no ‘escaping’ it, there is no absolute outside where
it is 

[Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject

2009-11-17 Thread c b
Andy Blunden September 2005

Foucault’s Discursive Subject (continued)


1. Knowledge
The epistemological problem of whether knowledge is entirely enclosed
by the paradigm or discourse within which it exists is one that has
received ample attention over the past century, and there is no need
to recapitulate that debate here. A recent example is the question as
to whether poverty exists and can be measured objectively or is on the
contrary simply a construct of the setting of the ‘poverty line’ in
welfare discourses. Foucault seemed on strong ground when he pointed
out that the very concept of ‘sex’ is constructed from a multiplicity
of pleasures, discourses, needs, and so on, and poverty researchers
would do well to learn from this: both poverty and the concept of
poverty are social constructs, differing in nature from one epoch or
culture to the next, so if they are to be objective and socially
relevant, measures of poverty must be constructed critically. It turns
out in fact that poverty is subject to objective measurement (life
expectancy, rates of psychiatric admissions, child abuse,
imprisonment, etc.), even though such measures only present themselves
as a result of a critique of the naïve/intuitive conception of poverty
based exclusively on income and monetary wealth. And the line which
asserts that on the contrary, the concept of poverty is simply a
linguistic construct leads to profoundly reactionary conclusions.

Natural science first took up this question on its own territory with
Charles Sanders Peirce’s conception of Pragmatism (1878) and Percy
Bridgman’s Operationalism (1927), culminating in Thomas Kuhn’s concept
of “paradigm” (1962). Ultimately however, the validity of a theory is
tested on the ground of ethics, that is to say, on the domain of a
whole form of life. This insight, which can be traced back to Hegel,
was first formulated within the discourse of natural science by
Jacques Monod, the 1965 Nobel Laureate for Biology. Critique of
knowledge can find a firm ground only in ethics, and this is something
that Foucault fails to provide.

How is knowledge constituted then? Knowledge is the knowledge of a
subject. The Cartesian conception of the subject as a thinking ego
came under attack centuries before M. Foucault came on the scene. An
individual with working nervous system and sense organs, can know
nothing; in addition to the nervous and sensori-motor systems with
which every human individual is endowed, knowledge presupposes that
the individual is participating in some collaborative activity,
engaging both systems, with other people, by means of which their
needs a met. Collaborative activity connects people with the entire
history of humanity through languages, symbols and images, artefacts,
not to mention the human bodies and sense organs shaped by many
generations of such activity. The knowledge a person has makes sense
to them only to the extent that it is connected with their active use
of their body in meeting human needs; but closer examination shows
that the specific content of that knowledge is formed not by the
individual themself but by the efforts of the individual to
collaborate with others using and modifying the ideal entities which
mediate their collaboration. The knowing subject therefore includes
not only the (socially constructed) nervous and sensori-motor systems
of the individual person, but also the concept and the material
products (including words and images) embodying that concept, used to
recognise and make sense of sense perceptions, and the system of human
relations and institutions, through which the concept is brought into
relation to the person.

Let me be clear here: it is not my contention that an individual
“uses” artefacts and other people in order to acquire knowledge. I am
saying that the knowing subject is a specific dynamic combination of
individuals, ideals and social collaboration. A “thought” unrelated to
any social action or meaningful artefact (word, symbol, etc.) would be
as absurd as a reflection without its object, the meaning of a
nonsense word, or a nation with no citizens.

Foucault directs his fire against the naïve/intuitive Cartesian
conception of knowledge, in support of an idea of knowledge
constituted by discourse; discourse is understood as the unity of an
ideal conceptual structure and a real set of power relations between
people. However, Foucault is seen not as describing a more concrete
conception of the subject, but rather as “deconstructing” the subject,
leaving us the absurdity of knowledge without a subject.

On the contrary, knowledge is knowledge of some subject, some needy
social agent.

2. Human Needs
As Marx said at length in the 1844 Manuscripts, “the forming of the
five senses is a labour of the entire history of the world down to the
present.”

“The eye has become a human eye, just as its object has become a
social, human object – an object made by man for man. The senses have
therefore become directly in their 

[Marxism-Thaxis] The Irish Socialist Workers Party has split.

2009-11-17 Thread Paddy Hackett
by Harry McIntyre
from Indymedia Ireland
---

Split centred around Belfast

The Socialist Workers Party has split. There has been some speculation on 
Indymedia and elsewhere that the SWP was having internal difficulties in 
Belfast. The dust has now settled, and the bulk of their Belfast 
organisation is now outside of the party.
The SWP has been having a tough time of it in Belfast in recent years. In 
the early years of the decade, the Belfast SWP was the success story of the 
organisation, building a number of branches and a strong student group. Then 
a period of decline followed, with branches merging, the student group 
weakening and the loss of some key activists. Now an organised split has 
taken most of the active, politically hardened, remaining members, leaving 
the Belfast SWP with an occasionally visible prospective election candidate 
and a handful of his associates.

The arguments flared up around electoral strategy. The Dublin leadership 
wanted to run Sean Mitchell, the excitable young member who got a small but 
respectable vote in West Belfast last time out. The Belfast committee, 
essentially a joint branch committee for the two mini-branches the party was 
operating in the city, wasn't so sure. Most of its members were of the view 
that Mitchell had been insufficiently active in the area over the last year. 
It was, in other words, a minor tactical difference of a sort that a 
democratic organisation could easily accomodate within its ranks. 
Unfortunately for the SWP, it is not such an organisation.

With typical heavy handedness, the Dublin leadership came down on the local 
dissidents like a ton of bricks. Vitriolic arguments ensued and the Belfast 
committee was wound up to shut up those who disagreed with the Political 
Committee. The writing was on the wall after that. The people who had held 
the SWP together in Belfast over a long, hard, period were told in no 
uncertain terms that either they did as they were told and shut up 
complaining or they'd be expelled. They decided to jump before they were 
pushed and resigned as a group.

As the dust settles, Barbara Muldoon, chair of the Anti-Racist Network, 
Gordon Hewitt, Mark Hewitt and their allies have found themselves outside of 
the organisation they helped build. It is understood that they are in the 
process of setting up a new organisation, based on the fundamental politics 
of the SWP tradition but with a greater commitment to internal democracy. A 
name, a platform and their first public statements are expected in the next 
couple of weeks. Meanwhile, the SWP in Belfast has been reduced to Mitchell, 
a couple of other students and an American academic. Donal Mac Fhearraigh, 
the SWP's Dublin full time office functionary has been sent North to shore 
up what's left and try to begin the process of rebuilding.

It's worth looking at the wider implications of this split in one city.

The splinter group are long standing SWP members with personal and political 
connections to SWP across the island. They could very easily make a nuisance 
of themselves to the SWP across the island by offering SWP members the 
option of an organisation with SWP politics but a less dictatorial internal 
regime. The big question will be whether they can gain support outside of 
their home city.

For the SWP it further hammers home their weakness outside of Dublin. There 
isn't one strong branch left outside the Republic's capital. Historic 
strongholds like Belfast and Waterford are down to a handful of members. 
Cork and Galway are hanging on by a thread. There's nothing at all in 
Limerick. Derry has Eamon McCann, which means a high profile, but a weak 
branch. It wouldn't take much more of a retreat to reduce the party to a 
regional organisation.

Perhaps more interesting for the wider left is what this incident reveals 
about the SWP's approach to left unity.

Firstly, while the SWP is very weak outside of Dublin they do at least 
maintain a tenuous presence, which can't really be said for the rest of 
People Before Profit. In Dublin, the SWP are the dominant force in the 
alliance, but there are others present and involved. Elsewhere the SWP 
simply are the alliance. South Tipperary may become a dramatic exception 
when the Workers and Unemployed Action Group announce their adherence, 
although it is not yet clear if that affiliation will involve taking on the 
PBP label and fully integrating into the alliance or if it mostly represents 
a formal commitment to continuing their existing work together. The Belfast 
split remember came to a head over what candidate to stand and in what 
constituency in the next Westminster elections. This discussion was carried 
on entirely in SWP branches and committees. But they weren't talking about 
standing an SWP candidate, they were deciding on who and where PBP should 
stand. There is no People Before Profit structure in Belfast, just the SWP 
using the name and taking whatever decisions it 

[Marxism-Thaxis] PBS Tonight 9:00 Waterfront : struggle in Detroit

2009-11-17 Thread Waistline2
PBS Tonight 9:00 Waterfront : struggle in Detroit 

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[Marxism-Thaxis] Biggest State Party to Obama: Get Out of Afghanistan

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Biggest State Party to Obama: Get Out of Afghanistan

By Norman Solomon, t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed truthout
November 16, 2009

http://www.truthout.org/1116095?print

The California Democratic Party has called for
withdrawal from Afghanistan. (Photo: WikiMedia)

This week begins with a significant new straw in the
political wind for President Obama to consider. The
California Democratic Party has just sent him a formal
and clear message: Stop making war in Afghanistan.

Overwhelmingly approved on Sunday by the California
Democratic Party's 300-member statewide executive
board, the resolution is titled End the US Occupation
and Air War in Afghanistan.

The resolution supports a timetable for withdrawal of
our military personnel and calls for an end to the
use of mercenary contractors as well as an end to air
strikes that cause heavy civilian casualties.
Advocating multiparty talks inside Afghanistan, the
resolution also urges Obama to oversee a redirection
of our funding and resources to include an increase in
humanitarian and developmental aid.

While Obama weighs Afghanistan policy options, the
California Democratic Party's adoption of the
resolution is the most tangible indicator yet that
escalation of the US war effort can only fuel
opposition within the president's own party -
opposition that has already begun to erode his
political base.

Participating in a long-haul struggle for progressive
principles inside the party, I co-authored the
resolution with savvy longtime activists Karen Bernal
of Sacramento and Marcy Winograd of Los Angeles.

Bernal, the chair of the state party's Progressive
Caucus, said on Sunday night, Today's vote formalized
and amplified what had been, up to now, an unspoken but
profoundly understood reality - that there is no
military solution in Afghanistan. What's more, the vote
signified an acceptance of what is sure to be a
continued and growing culture of resistance to current
administration policies on the matter within the party.
This is absolutely huge. Now, there can be no disputing
the fact that the overwhelming majority of California
Democrats are not only saying no to escalation, but no
to our continued military presence in Afghanistan,
period. The California Democratic Party has spoken, and
we want the rest of the country to know.

Winograd, who is running hard as a grassroots candidate
in a primary race against pro-war incumbent Rep. Jane
Harman, had this to say, We need progressives in every
state Democratic Party to pass a similar resolution
calling for an end to the US occupation and air war in
Afghanistan. Bring the veterans to the table, bring our
young into the room, and demand an end to this
occupation that only destabilizes the region. There is
no military solution, only a diplomatic one that
requires we cease our role as occupiers if we want our
voices to be heard. Yes, this is about Afghanistan -
but it's also about our role in the world at large. Do
we want to be global occupiers seizing scarce resources
or global partners in shared prosperity? I would argue
a partnership is not only the humane choice, but also
the choice that grants us the greatest security.

Speaking to The Resolutions Committee of the state
party on Saturday, former Marine Cpl. Rick Reyes
movingly described his experiences as a warrior in
Afghanistan that led him to question and then oppose
what he now considers to be an illegitimate US
occupation of that country.

Another voice of disillusionment reached party
delegates when Bernal distributed a copy of the recent
resignation letter from senior US diplomat Matthew Hoh,
sent after five months of work on the ground in
Afghanistan. I find specious the reasons we ask for
bloodshed and sacrifice from our young men and women in
Afghanistan, he wrote. If honest, our stated strategy
of securing Afghanistan to prevent al-Qaeda resurgence
or regrouping would require us to additionally invade
and occupy western Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen,
etc. Our presence in Afghanistan has only increased
destabilization and insurgency in Pakistan where we
rightly fear a toppled or weakened Pakistani government
may lose control of its nuclear weapons.

Hoh's letter added, I do not believe any military
force has ever been tasked with such a complex, opaque
and Sisyphean mission as the US military has received
in Afghanistan. And he wrote, Thousands of our men
and women have returned home with physical and mental
wounds, some that will never heal or will only worsen
with time. The dead return only in bodily form to be
received by families who must be reassured their dead
have sacrificed for a purpose worthy of futures lost,
love vanished, and promised dreams unkept. I have lost
confidence such assurances can anymore be made.

From their own vantage points, many of the California
Democratic Party leaders who voted to approve the out-
of-Afghanistan resolution on November 15 have gone
through a similar process. They've come to see the
touted reasons for the US war