Re: [Matplotlib-users] Any fix for wxAgg on Mac?
At 10:18 AM -0800 2006-11-09, Christopher Barker wrote: Russell and Charlie, Are your two binaries any different? Any reason to choose one over the other? In particular, which of these are supported: numpy 1.* Numeric numarray GTK TK wx (which version?) My binary supports: - numpy 1.0 (the default), Numeric and numarray - TkAgg using the built in Tcl/Tk or a user-added Tcl/Tk 8.4.x - WXAgg using wxPython 2.6 (I just realized this is the default, which is bad because it's not built in) It does not support GTK or Qt. Unfortunately it requires the user to: - Install one or more numeric packages - Set up a matploblibrc file unless they want to use numpy and WXAgg so it includes a ReadMe.txt file telling the user what to do. It would be better if matplotlib just ran out of the box. I'm not sure the best way to do this. Some possibilities are: - Include numpy in the matplotlib package and have the default matplotlibrc file use that. One would have to be careful about how to handle an existing numpy (if any), and I really don't know how to do that. Naive users would probably appreciate matplotlib using its own version and ignoring any built in (and possibly incompatible) version, but that sounds like a nightmare for more experienced users. - Run a post-install script that modifies the default matploblibrc file by looking for installed numeric packages and picking one as the default for numerix. It could warn the user if no compatible numeric package was found. This is clearly less friendly than the first option, but doesn't bring up the issue of conflicting with a user-installed numpy. - Some combination whereby a post-install script installs numpy 1.0 if no numpy is found and bitches loudly if a too-old version is found. Any ideas on this? Charlie: does your version already handle this somehow? If we use my package then I should submit a new version that has TkAgg as its default. -- Russell - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Matplotlib-users mailing list Matplotlib-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users
Re: [Matplotlib-users] Any fix for wxAgg on Mac?
On 11/9/06, Russell E Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:18 AM -0800 2006-11-09, Christopher Barker wrote: Russell and Charlie, Are your two binaries any different? Any reason to choose one over the other? In particular, which of these are supported: numpy 1.* Numeric numarray GTK TK wx (which version?) My binary supports: - numpy 1.0 (the default), Numeric and numarray - TkAgg using the built in Tcl/Tk or a user-added Tcl/Tk 8.4.x - WXAgg using wxPython 2.6 (I just realized this is the default, which is bad because it's not built in) It does not support GTK or Qt. Unfortunately it requires the user to: - Install one or more numeric packages - Set up a matploblibrc file unless they want to use numpy and WXAgg so it includes a ReadMe.txt file telling the user what to do. It would be better if matplotlib just ran out of the box. I'm not sure the best way to do this. Some possibilities are: - Include numpy in the matplotlib package and have the default matplotlibrc file use that. One would have to be careful about how to handle an existing numpy (if any), and I really don't know how to do that. Naive users would probably appreciate matplotlib using its own version and ignoring any built in (and possibly incompatible) version, but that sounds like a nightmare for more experienced users. - Run a post-install script that modifies the default matploblibrc file by looking for installed numeric packages and picking one as the default for numerix. It could warn the user if no compatible numeric package was found. This is clearly less friendly than the first option, but doesn't bring up the issue of conflicting with a user-installed numpy. - Some combination whereby a post-install script installs numpy 1.0 if no numpy is found and bitches loudly if a too-old version is found. Any ideas on this? Charlie: does your version already handle this somehow? If we use my package then I should submit a new version that has TkAgg as its default. I am guessing our versions are pretty much the same. All the latest numerical modules, no gtk, etc. I don't think we need to worry about dependencies. Windows and linux doesn't technically run out of the box either. They are required to get the correct deps. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Matplotlib-users mailing list Matplotlib-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users
Re: [Matplotlib-users] Any fix for wxAgg on Mac?
Russell and Charlie, Are your two binaries any different? Any reason to choose one over the other? In particular, which of these are supported: numpy 1.* Numeric numarray GTK TK wx (which version?) -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/ORR/HAZMAT (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Matplotlib-users mailing list Matplotlib-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users
Re: [Matplotlib-users] Any fix for wxAgg on Mac?
Russell E Owen wrote: It turns out my wx-config was in: /usr/local/lib/wxPython-unicode-2.7.1.3/lib/wx/config/mac-unicode-debug-2.7 not a location I'd ever have expected or would want to add to my $PATH (and not easy to find -- I had to use a special file finding utility to find it). No wonder I was having problems! Do you know who produced the wxPython installer package? Robin Dunn builds those himself. If so, please tell me or feel free to forward this message (edited as you see fit). I want to suggest they put links to binaries in one of: - /usr/local/bin - /Library/Frameworks/Python.../bin I think the former is the right choice if the associated wx C++ libraries (as installed by wxPython) are accessible to C++ users. They are really intended to be used specifically by wxPython. Often they are slightly different versions. I now when I've used wx for C++, I've used different libs. Otherwise if it's really a python-private sort of thing then it should probably be the latter. I think so. But there is a problem there, too. As I mentioned, you can have different versions of wxPython installed at once, so which one would put it's wx-config there? Also, /Library/Frameworks/Python.../bin is the default locations for binaries on OS-X, set by dist-utils. On other systems, it's set to /usr/local, or who knows? In that case, putting wx-config there could clash with both C++ wx installations, and wxPythons used for different versions of python -- there's just no easy way. At least this way, when you pick that wx-config, you KNOW you've got the one you want. As far as MPL is concerned, we could write a little code that would search for the default wxPython, and find wx-config there. However, the better solution is really to get rid of the compile-time dependence on wx -- that's a problem anyway. For instance, I'm not sure we should make the pythonmac binary depend on wxPython 2.7 -- that is a development version -- 2.6.3 may be a better choice. If only we all didn't have other things to do... -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/ORR/HAZMAT (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Matplotlib-users mailing list Matplotlib-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users
Re: [Matplotlib-users] Any fix for wxAgg on Mac?
Russell E. Owen wrote: I reinstalled wxPython 2.7 from the package at pythonmac.org (to be paranoid). I'm using the Python 2.5 version. check I got wx-config on my path and confirmed it's the right one (see below for details). check. Now when I try to build matplotlib it fails. Ouch. It starts out with the same warning as last time: setup.py:267: DeprecationWarning: The wxPython compatibility package is no longer automatically generated or activly maintained. Please switch to the wx package as soon as possible. import wxPython This one is easy! In setup.py, replace: import wxPython with import wx A few versions ago, the import wxPython form was deprecated -- it is now gone in 2.7. IN this case, all it's doing it checking if wxPython is installed, so th import wx should be the only change needed. A quick search revealed that the back-end itself has been switched over already. -Chris PS: you haven't been sending your notes to the list. -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/ORR/HAZMAT (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Matplotlib-users mailing list Matplotlib-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users
Re: [Matplotlib-users] Any fix for wxAgg on Mac?
Russell E Owen wrote: I should probably be using wxPython 2.6.x. I originally thought wxPython 2.7 was the current release but as you pointed out, that was a misconception. Unfortunately, it's the only binary package available for Python 2.5 at pythonmac.org. There is a binary of wxPython 2.6 for Python2.5 at: http://www.wxpython.org/download-2.6.3.3.php Maybe I'll ask Bob to put that up on pythonmac -- the 2.7 one is out of date already anyway. Let me know how it works. -CHB -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/ORR/HAZMAT (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Matplotlib-users mailing list Matplotlib-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users
