Re: [MeeGo-dev] PyQt

2010-07-26 Thread fathi.boudra
 I am looking at developing for MeeGo and I know C/C++ is one choice.
 Is it possible to develop MeeGo application using Python/PyQt?

There's 2 Python binding for Qt implementation:
- PyQt (RiverBank)
- PySide

At the moment, MeeGo doesn't have Python binding for Qt packages.
I expect we'll have them at some point.

Cheers,

Fathi

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] PyQt

2010-07-26 Thread fathi.boudra
Hi,

 If you want the PySide bindings which are supposed to be a better,
 more complete version of the original Qt bindings,

Please, don't spread FUD but give facts.
We have 2 competitors for the Python bindings.
Both have pros/cons and both try to push their implementation.

I let the reader to search the relevant information to make his own choice.

Cheers,

Fathi

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] PyQt

2010-07-26 Thread Sivan Greenberg
Dear Fathi,

That was not my intention, well, in better- I meant heading to bind
some new libs that did not exist when PyQt was created and thought of
a couple of features that I will  *personally*  very much like in
PySide once their finished, like this[0] one for example.

Sorry for mis-phrasing! Indeed, there are pros/cons to each and one
should use the best tool for the job (tm) :-)

Not to mention that PyQt is probably more spread and is heavily used
all over since it has been around for longer. Thus could be easier to
get going with since there are repository packages and tons of
material to get started with both online and printed. This also shows
promise to enable to port back and forth at relative ease[1].

[0] http://www.pyside.org/docs/pseps/psep-0102.html
[1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1297660/pyside-vs-pyqt

Fathi, please take liberty to make me stand corrected if I'm wrong and
note my notes are just in-my-experience recommendations and should
not be considered as authoritative advice.

Cheers,

Sivan

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:39 AM,  fathi.bou...@nokia.com wrote:
 Hi,

 If you want the PySide bindings which are supposed to be a better,
 more complete version of the original Qt bindings,

 Please, don't spread FUD but give facts.
 We have 2 competitors for the Python bindings.
 Both have pros/cons and both try to push their implementation.

 I let the reader to search the relevant information to make his own choice.

 Cheers,

 Fathi

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] PyQt

2010-07-26 Thread Attila Csipa
On Monday 26 July 2010 10:30:34 Sivan Greenberg wrote:
 That was not my intention, well, in better- I meant heading to bind
 some new libs that did not exist when PyQt was created 

Just a smallish note from someone who follows PyQt development fairly closely 
- I would not be surprised if those new libs (or at least a major subset of 
them) popped up as supported under PyQt. My OBS-foo is not yet strong enough 
to allow me to tinker with bindings under MeeGo, but it is on my (rather 
longish) to-do list, as, though some might disagree, I still feel there is 
some advantage of having two bindings. OTOH I do think MeeGo should (have) 
push(ed) for full platform level python availability from day 1, picking a 
preferred/official binding if necessary.

Best regards,
Attila
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] PyQt

2010-07-26 Thread Sivan Greenberg
Atilla,

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Attila Csipa me...@csipa.in.rs wrote:
 Just a smallish note from someone who follows PyQt development fairly closely
 - I would not be surprised if those new libs (or at least a major subset of
 them) popped up as supported under PyQt. My OBS-foo is not yet strong enough
 to allow me to tinker with bindings under MeeGo, but it is on my (rather
 longish) to-do list, as, though some might disagree, I still feel there is
 some advantage of having two bindings. OTOH I do think MeeGo should (have)
 push(ed) for full platform level python availability from day 1, picking a
 preferred/official binding if necessary.


Just to second that- and I know we've already discussed this on IRC,
but I strongly support the idea to have full platform support for
Python, to the extend of reaching the OVI store and more monetary
(but not necessary paid) style distribution channels. I actually agree
with every word , and couldn't say this better.

The issue is I guess with maintainer ship, who when and how? (having
two frameworks strictly speaking suggests 2 maintainership efforts?)


Sivan
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[MeeGo-dev] PyQt

2010-07-25 Thread Mark S. Townsley
Hi:

I am looking at developing for MeeGo and I know C/C++ is one choice.  Is it
possible to develop MeeGo application using Python/PyQt?

thanks

Mark
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] PyQt

2010-07-25 Thread Sivan Greenberg
Yes I would expect it'd be much the same way it is down for Maemo,
note that you might need to download and install source versions of
the tools since there might not be RPMs for that at this time.

[1] http://esbox.garage.maemo.org/2nd_edition/installation.html
[2] 
http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/c05693a1-265c-4c7f-a389-fc227db4c465/Maemo_5_SDK.html
[3] http://www.pyside.org/downloads/

If you want the PySide bindings which are supposed to be a better,
more complete version of the original Qt bindings, you need to consult
the download page[3]  for the PySide project. You can also attempt
development inside the MeeGo SDK given you build the required
dependencies there, in Maemo the packages are available from
extra-devel.

I hope this helps (thanks to Renato and Luca for originally posting this).

Sivan

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Mark S. Townsley mstowns...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi:

 I am looking at developing for MeeGo and I know C/C++ is one choice.  Is it
 possible to develop MeeGo application using Python/PyQt?

 thanks

 Mark



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