[meteorite-list] Re: New Asteroid Threat Seen (Asteroid 2003 QQ47)
I dont understand the problem!?, There was a potential threat, it was reported in the press, it was later refined and proven to be a much lower threat, end of story. No one is/was panicking, no one has lied to anyone, and there is no Circus!?. I suspect the reason they released the story so quickly was they were asking for other astronomers to help refine the data (the more observations the better), and you cant keep information like that secret, its better to give a formal press release there and then. I agree its not ideal but hey thats life. Mark
[meteorite-list] meteorite photography scales
Dear List,just a brief question concerning scale-reference objects used in specimen photography.Zapping through meteorite gallerys and catalogues one comes across the strangest objects used in order to give a referenceon the size of meteorites. Recourcefulness reaches fromcamel skullsto smoking cigars. Beside this ingenuity Im particularly interested tolearn about the small black cubes which I find very suitable fordetailed documentation.Is it a metric scale or do they represent an inch? What do the engraved alphabetic characters stand for? Are these objects some kind of alienated tokens that usuallyserve in a scrabble-like board game environment? And is ityet imagineable to purchase such o! bject of desire, even overseas??? Please excuse the somewhat trivial subject but I would truly be thankful if someone could initiate me into the circle of the "knowing".regardsSvendwww.niger-meteorite-recon.de[EMAIL PROTECTED]IMCA 6540 __38xTestsieger - WEB.DE FreeMail - Deutschlands beste E-Mailmacht E-Mail schreiben zum Erlebnis! http://f.web.de/?mc=021127 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite photography scales
Svend and others, I would believe most are centimeter cubes. 10 millimeters in a cube...2.57 cubes in an inch, etc. John __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: September MeteoriteTimes Is Up (and US Finds)
(Note: I sent this post yesterday but it seems to be lost in the deep realms of cyberspace..maybe it impact melted into another message to another list) Geoff and others, In mentioning meteorite names and the folks involved in finding/recovering them in the US, I was remiss in not including Rob in those recent posts. This morning when I was reading the meteorite people section (usually the first section I go to)...it hit me like a hammerstone that we/I didn't include Rob in those. My apologies Rob...you may go to the front row without a pass. Way to go and congrats on being recognized properly in the Times. Humbly, John Paul posted: MeteoriteTimes for September is up. Dear Listees: Do not miss the interview with List member Robert Matson (use the Meteorite People link) in the new edition of Meteorite Times. Excellent field photos of some impressive American discoveries by a *very* successful meteorite hunter with 65 finds to his credit (!!). Well done Robert (and Paul and Jim, of course). Regards, Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite photography scales
Hello All, I believe those nice little centimeter cubes can be attainedfrom Bob Verish. Thanks, TomPeregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Svend Buhl To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:35 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite photography scales Dear List, just a brief question concerning scale-reference objects used in specimen photography.Zapping through meteorite gallerys and catalogues one comes across the strangest objects used in order to give a referenceon the size of meteorites. Recourcefulness reaches fromcamel skullsto smoking cigars. Beside this ingenuity Im particularly interested tolearn about the small black cubes which I find very suitable fordetailed documentation.Is it a metric scale or do they represent an inch? What do the engraved alphabetic characters stand for? Are these objects some kind of alienated tokens that usuallyserve in a scrabble-like board game environment? And is ityet imagineable to purchase such o! bject of desire, even overseas??? Please excuse the somewhat trivial subject but I would truly be thankful if someone could initiate me into the circle of the "knowing". regards Svend www.niger-meteorite-recon.de [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 6540 __38xTestsieger - WEB.DE FreeMail - Deutschlands beste E-Mailmacht E-Mail schreiben zum Erlebnis! http://f.web.de/?mc=021127 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite photography scales
Personally.I prefer the black/white centimeter scaled strips used as opposed to the cubes. Seeing one of the scales in front of a whole specimen or slice, gives me a better perspective of the true size of the specimen. I've toyed around with making one of these scales using MS Exceljust play around with setting the cell size in a row to the proper height x width, and black-fill every other cell. And while it certainly would be nice to see some type of standardization in how everyone displays their specimens, the imagination used by some people is certainly enjoyable. Craig __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hubble Assists Rosetta Comet Mission
Paris, 5 September 2003 European Space Agency Press Release N° 55-2003 EMBARGOED UNTIL 21:00 CEST Hubble assists Rosetta comet mission Results from the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope have played a major role in preparing ESA's ambitious Rosetta mission for its new target, comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko. Hubble has been used to make precise measurements of the size, shape and rotational period of the comet. Information that is essential if Rosetta is to rendezvous with the comet and then drop down a probe, something never before attempted and yet a major step towards elucidating the origins of the solar system. Observations made by Hubble in March this year revealed that comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko (67P/C-G) is approximately five by three kilometres in size and shaped like a rugby ball. ESA mission scientists were concerned about the exact size of the solid nucleus, which is needed to adapt the mission to the comet's gravity. Although 67P/C-G is roughly three times larger than the original Rosetta target, its highly elongated shape should make landing on its nucleus feasible, now that measures are in place to adapt the lander package to the new scenario, says Dr Philippe Lamy of the Laboratoire d'Astronomie Spatiale in France, who is presenting the Hubble results on comet 67P/C-G today at the annual meeting of the Division for Planetary Sciences of the American Astronomical Society in California, USA. Mission scientists began looking for an alternative target when the Rosetta mission's launch date was postponed. The delay meant that the original target comet, 46P/Wirtanen, was no longer easily reachable. But scientists did not have enough information on the back-up comet, 67P/C-G, and sought data from the largest telescopes. Using a technique developed over the past decade by Philippe Lamy, Imre Toth (Konkoly Observatory, Hungary), and Harold Weaver (Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel, USA), the team snapped 61 Hubble images of comet 67P/C-G over a period of 21 hours on 11 and 12 March. Hubble's Wide Field Planetary Camera 2 isolated the comet's nucleus from the coma, the diffuse gas surrounding the nucleus, quickly providing the figures required. The telescope showed that the nucleus is ellipsoidal and measured its rotation rate at approximately 12 hours. Rosetta's launch is currently planned for February 2004, with a rendezvous with the comet about 10 years later. # # # Notes for editors The team is made up of P. L. Lamy and L. Jorda (Laboratoire d'Astronomie Spatiale, France), I. Toth (Konkoly Observatory, Hungary), and H.A. Weaver (Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory). The movie simulation of the Hubble results is provided by Mikko Kaasalainen (University of Helsinki, Finland) and Pedro Gutierrez (Laboratoire d'Astronomie Spatiale, France). The observations were made possible through a special programme approved by the Director of the Space Telescope Science Institute, S. Beckwith. For more information, please contact: Philippe Lamy Laboratoire d'Astronomie Spatiale, France Cellular: +33-630-14-92-33 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lars Lindberg Christensen Hubble European Space Agency Information Centre, Garching, Germany Tel: +49-89-3200-6306 (089 within Germany) Cellular (24 hr): +49-173-3872-621 (0173 within Germany) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ray Villard Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore, MD, USA Tel: +1-410-338-4514) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Buckley Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel, MD, USA Tel: +1-443-778-7536 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Geologist Finds Meteorite Crater In The Japanese Alps
http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/2003-09-05-japan-crater_x.htm Geologist Finds meteorite's crater in the Japanese Alps Associated Press September 4, 2003 (AP) - A crater from a meteorite impact more than 20,000 years ago has been discovered in the Japanese Alps, an amateur geologist announced this week. The crater is the first found in this country. Masao Sakamoto said the crater stretches 900 yards in diameter and spreads out across rugged, heavily forested land in Nagano prefecture (state), about 100 miles west of Tokyo. Sakamoto, who announced his discovery at an academic symposium earlier this week, said it went largely unnoticed because only about 40% of the crater is visible. If it had been a clear, pretty circle, it would have been obvious that was a crater, Sakamoto told The Associated Press on Friday. Everyone around here is really surprised by this. Sakamoto said analysis of the soil at the site indicates a meteorite about 45 meters (150 feet) across smashed into the area about 20,000 to 30,000 years ago. Sakamoto, an elementary school teacher, said he studied the crater - located in the town next to his - for 20 years before he was able to determine it had been formed by a rock from outer space. At first, Sakamoto thought the mountain ridge and basin might have been formed by a volcano, a fault, or even sculpted out by a glacier. But the soil he found didn't match any of those theories. After studying craters in the United States and Europe, he discovered some of them had similar features to his ridge - including a mysterious uneven stretch of valleys and hills in middle of the woods. Quartz found on the site was then proved to have been formed as a result of the intense heat created by the impact of a meteorite, Sakamoto said. Sakamoto presented his findings at a symposium sponsored by the National Institute of Polar Research, which is involved in geology and geophysics studies. The announcement was front-page news in Japan. Sakamoto said he hopes the finding of an impact crater in Japan will allow his colleagues easier access to carry out field studies in meteorite research. The biggest honor is to have spurred such opportunities in Japan, he said. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bright Flashes Seen In California Sky
Lights In California Sky Apparently Asteroid Burning In Atmosphere Associated Press September 5, 2003 LOS ANGELES (AP) _ Bright flashes in the California sky Thursday evening were likely a small asteroid or debris from space burning up in the Earth's atmosphere, authorities said. A dispatcher with the state Office of Emergency Services said nothing hit the ground but the clear sky over parts of the state made for a spectacular light show. Bluish white lights reportedly moving west to northeast were seen at about 8:20 p.m. in Palm Springs and as far north as Napa and Amador counties, according to witnesses and the OES. A brief North American Aerospace Defense Command investigation concluded that the lights were a small asteroid or space debris, according to OES. Vandenberg Air Force Base reported it had not tested missiles or made any other launch Thursday night. Ginger Jeffries, a weathercaster at KESQ-TV in Palm Springs, called the light extremely bright. I was looking at it and going 'Mars isn't over there, what is that?' We had dust storms overhead, you couldn't see much at all in the sky, she said. But this was as clear and bright as anything. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geologist Finds Meteorite Crater In The Japanese Alps
Dear List, This will be reconfirmed within one or two months depending upon our schedules by Dr. Miura of Yamagugchi and Dirk Ross of Planetary Data, USA. The paper is premature and no final conclusions should be made until confirmation. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo Ron Baalke wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/2003-09-05-japan-crater_x.htm Geologist Finds meteorite's crater in the Japanese Alps Associated Press September 4, 2003 (AP) - A crater from a meteorite impact more than 20,000 years ago has been discovered in the Japanese Alps, an amateur geologist announced this week. The crater is the first found in this country. Masao Sakamoto said the crater stretches 900 yards in diameter and spreads out across rugged, heavily forested land in Nagano prefecture (state), about 100 miles west of Tokyo. Sakamoto, who announced his discovery at an academic symposium earlier this week, said it went largely unnoticed because only about 40% of the crater is visible. If it had been a clear, pretty circle, it would have been obvious that was a crater, Sakamoto told The Associated Press on Friday. Everyone around here is really surprised by this. Sakamoto said analysis of the soil at the site indicates a meteorite about 45 meters (150 feet) across smashed into the area about 20,000 to 30,000 years ago. Sakamoto, an elementary school teacher, said he studied the crater - located in the town next to his - for 20 years before he was able to determine it had been formed by a rock from outer space. At first, Sakamoto thought the mountain ridge and basin might have been formed by a volcano, a fault, or even sculpted out by a glacier. But the soil he found didn't match any of those theories. After studying craters in the United States and Europe, he discovered some of them had similar features to his ridge - including a mysterious uneven stretch of valleys and hills in middle of the woods. Quartz found on the site was then proved to have been formed as a result of the intense heat created by the impact of a meteorite, Sakamoto said. Sakamoto presented his findings at a symposium sponsored by the National Institute of Polar Research, which is involved in geology and geophysics studies. The announcement was front-page news in Japan. Sakamoto said he hopes the finding of an impact crater in Japan will allow his colleagues easier access to carry out field studies in meteorite research. The biggest honor is to have spurred such opportunities in Japan, he said. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] High-Resolution Images of Asteroid (511) Davida
http://www2.keck.hawaii.edu/news/asteroid.html High-Resolution Images of Asteroid (511) Davida W.M. Keck Observatory September 4, 2003 Davida Image Davida Asteroid Rotation Animation Image Credit: W.M. Keck Observatory A sequence of images of asteroid (511) Davida, spanning slightly more than one hour, as it rotates on Dec. 26, 2002. In this view, the asteroid is seen from above its north pole, as it spins counter-clockwise, left to right. The features on the edges, such as the flat facets, show that the asteroid has rotated about one-quarter turn. MONTEREY, Calif. -- A team of scientists from the W.M. Keck Observatory and several other research institutions have made the first full-rotational, ground-based observations of asteroid (511) Davida, a large, main-belt asteroid that measures 320 km (200 miles) in diameter. These observations are among the first high-resolution, ground-based pictures of large asteroids, made possible only through the use of adaptive optics on large telescopes. This research will help improve understanding of how asteroids were formed and provide information about their compositions and structures. Because the asteroids were formed and shaped by collisions, a process that also affected the Earth, Moon, and planets, these studies will also help astronomers understand the history and evolution of the solar system. Asteroid Davida was discovered 100 years ago, but this is the first time anyone has been able to see this level of detail on this object, said Dr. Al Conrad, scientist at the W.M. Keck Observatory. With adaptive optics, we're finally able to transform asteroids like Davida from a single, faint point-source into an object of true geological study. Ground-based observations of large, main-belt asteroids are made possible only through a powerful astronomical technique called adaptive optics, which removes the blurring caused by Earth's atmosphere. Without adaptive optics, critical surface information and details about the asteroid's shape are lost. The techniques used at the W.M. Keck Observatory allow astronomers to measure the distortion of light caused by the atmosphere and rapidly make corrections, restoring the light to near-perfect quality. Such corrections are most easily made to infrared light. In many cases, infrared observations made with Keck adaptive optics are better than those obtained with space-based telescopes. The observations of asteroid (511) Davida were made with the 10-meter (400-inch) Keck II telescope on December 26, 2002. Images were taken over a full rotation period of about 5.1 hours, just a few days before its closest approach to Earth. At that time, Davida's angular diameter was less than one-ten-thousandth of a degree, about the size of a quarter as seen from a distance of 18 kilometers (11 miles). The high angular resolution allowed astronomers to see surface details as small as 46 kilometers (30 miles), about the size of the San Francisco Bay area. The next time Davida comes this close to Earth will be in the year 2030. At the time of the observations, Davida's north pole faced Earth. While scientists could see the asteroid spinning, only the northern hemisphere was visible. Yet the profile of the asteroid is far from circular: At least two flat facets can be seen on its surface. Although scientists knew previously from light variations that Davida must have an oblong shape, details of that shape were not available until now. Initial evaluation of the images reveal some dark features, and scientists are still working to understand to what extent these are surface markings, topographical features, or artifacts of the image processing. Adaptive optics on large telescopes is allowing us to make detailed studies from the ground that were previously impossible or prohibitively expensive, said Dr. William Merline, principal scientist with the Southwest Research Institute, and a participant in this research. We can now make observations that once required either the scarce resources of space telescopes or spacecraft missions to asteroids. While these space telescopes and space missions are still needed for complete study of the asteroids, ground-based observations such as these will help tremendously in planning the mission observations and focusing the resources where they will be most effective. Asteroids are the collection of rocky objects orbiting between Mars and Jupiter. They were likely prevented from forming into a planet, partly due to Jupiter's massive gravitational influence. Although the asteroids began their lives colliding gently, in a way that would lead them eventually to form a planet, Jupiter's gravity eventually stirred up their orbits, and they began to collide at higher speeds, added participant Dr. Christophe Dumas, planetary astronomer with the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. These collisions tended to cause them to break up rather than gently stick together. The resulting fragments, numbering in the hundreds of
Re: [meteorite-list] High-Resolution Images of Asteroid (511) Davida
Hey list, This asteroid looks like it is oriented, complete with a full roll-over lip ! Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] High-Resolution Images of Asteroid (511) Davida http://www2.keck.hawaii.edu/news/asteroid.html High-Resolution Images of Asteroid (511) Davida W.M. Keck Observatory September 4, 2003 Davida Image Davida Asteroid Rotation Animation Image Credit: W.M. Keck Observatory A sequence of images of asteroid (511) Davida, spanning slightly more than one hour, as it rotates on Dec. 26, 2002. In this view, the asteroid is seen from above its north pole, as it spins counter-clockwise, left to right. The features on the edges, such as the flat facets, show that the asteroid has rotated about one-quarter turn. MONTEREY, Calif. -- A team of scientists from the W.M. Keck Observatory and several other research institutions have made the first full-rotational, ground-based observations of asteroid (511) Davida, a large, main-belt asteroid that measures 320 km (200 miles) in diameter. These observations are among the first high-resolution, ground-based pictures of large asteroids, made possible only through the use of adaptive optics on large telescopes. This research will help improve understanding of how asteroids were formed and provide information about their compositions and structures. Because the asteroids were formed and shaped by collisions, a process that also affected the Earth, Moon, and planets, these studies will also help astronomers understand the history and evolution of the solar system. Asteroid Davida was discovered 100 years ago, but this is the first time anyone has been able to see this level of detail on this object, said Dr. Al Conrad, scientist at the W.M. Keck Observatory. With adaptive optics, we're finally able to transform asteroids like Davida from a single, faint point-source into an object of true geological study. Ground-based observations of large, main-belt asteroids are made possible only through a powerful astronomical technique called adaptive optics, which removes the blurring caused by Earth's atmosphere. Without adaptive optics, critical surface information and details about the asteroid's shape are lost. The techniques used at the W.M. Keck Observatory allow astronomers to measure the distortion of light caused by the atmosphere and rapidly make corrections, restoring the light to near-perfect quality. Such corrections are most easily made to infrared light. In many cases, infrared observations made with Keck adaptive optics are better than those obtained with space-based telescopes. The observations of asteroid (511) Davida were made with the 10-meter (400-inch) Keck II telescope on December 26, 2002. Images were taken over a full rotation period of about 5.1 hours, just a few days before its closest approach to Earth. At that time, Davida's angular diameter was less than one-ten-thousandth of a degree, about the size of a quarter as seen from a distance of 18 kilometers (11 miles). The high angular resolution allowed astronomers to see surface details as small as 46 kilometers (30 miles), about the size of the San Francisco Bay area. The next time Davida comes this close to Earth will be in the year 2030. At the time of the observations, Davida's north pole faced Earth. While scientists could see the asteroid spinning, only the northern hemisphere was visible. Yet the profile of the asteroid is far from circular: At least two flat facets can be seen on its surface. Although scientists knew previously from light variations that Davida must have an oblong shape, details of that shape were not available until now. Initial evaluation of the images reveal some dark features, and scientists are still working to understand to what extent these are surface markings, topographical features, or artifacts of the image processing. Adaptive optics on large telescopes is allowing us to make detailed studies from the ground that were previously impossible or prohibitively expensive, said Dr. William Merline, principal scientist with the Southwest Research Institute, and a participant in this research. We can now make observations that once required either the scarce resources of space telescopes or spacecraft missions to asteroids. While these space telescopes and space missions are still needed for complete study of the asteroids, ground-based observations such as these will help tremendously in planning the mission observations and focusing the resources where they will be most effective. Asteroids are the collection of rocky objects orbiting between Mars and Jupiter. They were likely prevented from forming into a planet, partly due to Jupiter's massive gravitational influence.
[meteorite-list] Pingualuit Crater Is Centerpiece Of New Canadian Park
http://www.nunatsiaq.com/news/nunavik/30905_01.html Charest announces creation of Pingualuit Park Opens door to a relationship of trust between Quebec and the Inuit ISABELLE DUBOIS Nunatsiaq News (Canada) September 5, 2003 Quebec's new premier delivered the Nunavik's first provincial park during his visit to the region last week. Jean Charest officially announced the creation of Pingualuit Park on Aug. 28 during a ceremony in Makivik Corp.'s head office in Kuujjuaq. Pingualuit Crater is the centerpiece of the new park. The crater is a perfectly circular lake that was formed by a meteorite more than 1.3 million years ago. It is more than three kilometres wide and 267 metres deep, and is renown for the purity of its water. The creation of the new park is an expression of our government's intent to preserve spaces and ecosystems for future generations, Charest said as Makivik President Pita Aatami, Pierre Corbeil, minister for forests, wildlife and parks, and Benoît Pelletier, minister for aboriginal affairs, looked on. Last Friday's signing honoured a provision of the 2002 Sanarrutik economic agreement between Nunavik and Quebec. The agreement promised a budget of $5.7 million for start-up and $3.9 million for operating costs over the next five years. It was also the culmination of more than 30 years of anticipation for Nunavik, which has been pressing for regional park development since the James Bay and Northern Quebec Agreement was signed in 1975. Yet Pingualuit Park is significant, not only because it is the first provincial park in the region, but also because it will be Quebec's first park managed by a local population. The new park, which is expected to be operational by the end of this year, will be run by Inuit through the Kativik Regional Government. This means local Inuit will keep all traditional harvesting rights within the park. The fact that the new park will be managed by the Inuit themselves, certainly bears witness to the faith that Quebec has in them, said Marc Alain, the political attaché to Minister Corbeil. Characterized by trust, this new relation between the government and the Inuit, leading to a delegation of responsibilities, can also lead to a certain autonomy, added Minister Pelletier's political attaché, Louis-Félix Binette. Charest said he hopes the new park will serve as a model for the development of other parks in the region. Four other park projects are currently under study in Nunavik and he believes the creation of more parks could encourage eco- and adventure tourism in Arctic Quebec. The park announcement was only one stop in Charest's first tour of Nunavik as premier. During his visit, Charest returned to the community of Kangiqsualujjuaq, which he first visited as leader of the opposition after the New Year's Eve avalanche of 1999. The premier said he was impressed to see how the community had coped since the tragedy. Community members, who were touched by Charest's presence at the funeral, were grateful for his return. The premier's visit is important to us, said Kangiqsualujjuaq mayor Bobby Baron. It is the only way that he can see how we live. Charest also spent some time at the Nunavik Research Centre in Kuujjuaq. A closed meeting followed his visit to the centre, where government officials and Inuit leaders discussed many other issues related to the North. Following the meeting, Aatami thanked the premier and his delegation for accepting his invitation. We are, hopefully, starting a beautiful relationship, he said. We have accomplished some positive things in the past with the government of Quebec, and we hope we can do more. Charest spent some time during his tour reassuring Inuit about his government's policy of cutting spending. Of course there will be reductions in government spending but these will be mainly at the administration level, he said. By cutting the fat from Quebec's bureaucracy, the new premier hopes to better serve the province's residents by reducing taxes and emphasizing issues such as the health care and education. Although Charest did not make any concrete promises, he pledged to listen closely to aboriginal concerns about housing, insurance and local government. For his part, Pelletier announced an $850,000 grant to the KRG for a variety of community development projects that will be funded through the Secrétariat aux Affaires Autochtones' aboriginal development fund. Minister Corbeil presented $1.6 million to the KRG through the support program for Inuit beneficiaries of the James Bay and Northern Quebec Agreement, for hunting, fishing and trapping activities. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] nwa 1139
Hi list.I just got my new NWA 1139, I won from mark bostick.It is a very nice,low weathering piece.It is a fully fusion crusted piece.And for the price I bid on it, I got a great deal.Thanks again to mark, who continues to make it very available to bid on his fine things. steve arnold = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re: meteorite photography scales
I would believe most are centimeter cubes. 10 millimeters in a cube...2.57 cubes in an inch, etc. Just hair-splitting: I think that should be 2.54, not 2.57? On a more serious note regarding scale indicators used in meteorite photo's: I prefer scale indicators like black-white bars or 1 cm cubes (or even 1 inch cubes) to the frequent habit of another type of size indicator, a coin. While perhaps a US resident does not realize this, non-US, e.g. European residents might not be familiar with the size of a US dime or quarter coin at all. For them such a size indicator can be quite meaningless. Especially meteorite dealers who serve an international public should realize this. - Marco:-) -- Marco Langbroek [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geologist Finds Meteorite Crater In The Japanese Alps
Don't get your hopess up to high too fast. W have to confirm that indead it a metorite impact; and second it all lie with National Park Boundaries. Dirk.Tokyo Steve Schoner wrote: Wow, 20,000 to 30,000 years ago! There should be meteorites there. Maybe someday it would be good to check this site out with a good metal detector. Got to get in shape... Steve. --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, This will be reconfirmed within one or two months depending upon our schedules by Dr. Miura of Yamagugchi and Dirk Ross of Planetary Data, USA. The paper is premature and no final conclusions should be made until confirmation. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo Ron Baalke wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/2003-09-05-japan-crater_x.htm Geologist Finds meteorite's crater in the Japanese Alps Associated Press September 4, 2003 (AP) - A crater from a meteorite impact more than 20,000 years ago has been discovered in the Japanese Alps, an amateur geologist announced this week. The crater is the first found in this country. Masao Sakamoto said the crater stretches 900 yards in diameter and spreads out across rugged, heavily forested land in Nagano prefecture (state), about 100 miles west of Tokyo. Sakamoto, who announced his discovery at an academic symposium earlier this week, said it went largely unnoticed because only about 40% of the crater is visible. If it had been a clear, pretty circle, it would have been obvious that was a crater, Sakamoto told The Associated Press on Friday. Everyone around here is really surprised by this. Sakamoto said analysis of the soil at the site indicates a meteorite about 45 meters (150 feet) across smashed into the area about 20,000 to 30,000 years ago. Sakamoto, an elementary school teacher, said he studied the crater - located in the town next to his - for 20 years before he was able to determine it had been formed by a rock from outer space. At first, Sakamoto thought the mountain ridge and basin might have been formed by a volcano, a fault, or even sculpted out by a glacier. But the soil he found didn't match any of those theories. After studying craters in the United States and Europe, he discovered some of them had similar features to his ridge - including a mysterious uneven stretch of valleys and hills in middle of the woods. Quartz found on the site was then proved to have been formed as a result of the intense heat created by the impact of a meteorite, Sakamoto said. Sakamoto presented his findings at a symposium sponsored by the National Institute of Polar Research, which is involved in geology and geophysics studies. The announcement was front-page news in Japan. Sakamoto said he hopes the finding of an impact crater in Japan will allow his colleagues easier access to carry out field studies in meteorite research. The biggest honor is to have spurred such opportunities in Japan, he said. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA1807
Hi all Any new about NWA1807 ? Best Lars Pedersen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] re: meteorite photography scales
Does anyone know exactly where I can get one of the black cm. cubes with the white letters on it? A website URL or email address would be most helpful. Thanks, Brice __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re: meteorite photography scales
Hi Brice, I researched this about a year ago, and came to the unfortunate conclusion then that nobody makes them. (If you're wondering where Bob Verish got his, I believe he made them himself.) --Rob -Original Message- From: Brice D. Hornback [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:47 AM To: meteorite list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] re: meteorite photography scales Does anyone know exactly where I can get one of the black cm. cubes with the white letters on it? A website URL or email address would be most helpful. Thanks, Brice __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA1807
hello all I have write time ago when I have all informations on this carbonaceous chondrite put a email in the list. The persons have in analysis the meteorite is return from few time from the Mainz and from London and now re-start the analysis. I call tomorrow for ask if the laboratory have news. regards Matteo --- Lars Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Any new about NWA1807 ? Best Lars Pedersen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: September MeteoriteTimes Is Up (and US Finds)
Hi John, In mentioning meteorite names and the folks involved in finding/recovering them in the US, I was remiss in not including Rob in those recent posts. Please, no need to apologize. I am not nearly as prolific a finder as most of the names in your list, and most of my finds are small. Way to go and congrats on being recognized properly in the Times. Believe me, I was honored and humbled to do the Times interview with Paul. It was fun reminiscing, and a little startling to realize that it's already been 4 years since my first meteorite hunting trip. Look forward to getting out there again this fall. Best wishes, Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - September 2-5, 2003
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES September 2-5, 2003 o Gullies Galore! (Released 2 September 2003) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030902a.html o Concentric crater floor deposits in Daedalia Planum (Released 3 September 2003) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030903a.html o Butterfly Ejecta (Released 4 September 2003) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030904a.html o Dune field in a southern highlands crater (Released 5 September 2003) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030905a.html All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi List ...10 millimeters in a cube...2.57 cubes in a inch, etc. Certainly he means: 10 mm per SIDE... It's 10 mm = 2.54 In a CUBE there is 10x10x10 mm = 1 cm3 Perhaps the T on the cube stands for Top? What about the other letters? José Campos - Original Message - From: Marco Langbroek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:23 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] re: meteorite photography scales I would believe most are centimeter cubes. 10 millimeters in a cube...2.57 cubes in an inch, etc. Just hair-splitting: I think that should be 2.54, not 2.57? On a more serious note regarding scale indicators used in meteorite photo's: I prefer scale indicators like black-white bars or 1 cm cubes (or even 1 inch cubes) to the frequent habit of another type of size indicator, a coin. While perhaps a US resident does not realize this, non-US, e.g. European residents might not be familiar with the size of a US dime or quarter coin at all. For them such a size indicator can be quite meaningless. Especially meteorite dealers who serve an international public should realize this. - Marco:-) -- Marco Langbroek [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ridge Said To Be Part Of Meteoric Crater In Japan
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/newse/20030906wo71.htm Ridge said part of meteoric crater Yomiuri Shimbun (Japan) September 5, 2003 A semicircular ridge on Mt. Oike in Kamimura, Nagano Prefecture, is highly likely the remains of a crater created by a meteorite 20,000 to 30,000 years ago, researchers announced Thursday at an international symposium at the National Institute of Polar Research in Itabashi Ward, Tokyo. There are several geographical features across the nation that some scientists say may have been formed by meteorites, but the researchers are the first to announce they have essentially confirmed that their finding is a meteoric crater. The researchers included Masao Sakamoto, head teacher at Tatsuoka Primary School in Iida, Nagano Prefecture, and a research team from the Okayama University of Science. They said the crater in the southern part of the Southern Japanese Alps was initially about 900 meters in diameter, but most had crumbled away and only about 40 percent remained. By studying quartz found in the crater, the group determined it was created by a meteorite about 45 meters in diameter that crashed into the area 20,000 to 30,000 years ago. Sakamoto found the semicircular outcrop 20 years ago and could find no explanation for it among the geological studies conducted in the area up to that time. He asked the Okamoto University of Science to examine unusually structured quartz he found in the bedrock of the site. Using laser technology, the university discovered some of the quartz crystals had traces of cracks 0.01 millimeters and 0.02 millimeters wide as a result of a heavy impact. This is accepted in the scientific community as strong evidence that the quartz was taken from a meteoric crater. Masayuki Okuno, professor of mineralogy at Kanazawa University, said, Perhaps this discovery will push forward crater research in the nation. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] re: meteorite photography scales
Hello List, José Campos wrote; Perhaps the T on the cube stands for Top? What about the other letters? I am quit certain the T stands for Tom! I do not know what the other letters are. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Jose Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:53 PM Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] re: meteorite photography scales Hi List ...10 millimeters in a cube...2.57 cubes in a inch, etc. Certainly he means: 10 mm per SIDE... It's 10 mm = 2.54 In a CUBE there is 10x10x10 mm = 1 cm3 Perhaps the T on the cube stands for Top? What about the other letters? José Campos - Original Message - From: Marco Langbroek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:23 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] re: meteorite photography scales I would believe most are centimeter cubes. 10 millimeters in a cube...2.57 cubes in an inch, etc. Just hair-splitting: I think that should be 2.54, not 2.57? On a more serious note regarding scale indicators used in meteorite photo's: I prefer scale indicators like black-white bars or 1 cm cubes (or even 1 inch cubes) to the frequent habit of another type of size indicator, a coin. While perhaps a US resident does not realize this, non-US, e.g. European residents might not be familiar with the size of a US dime or quarter coin at all. For them such a size indicator can be quite meaningless. Especially meteorite dealers who serve an international public should realize this. - Marco:-) -- Marco Langbroek [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi List and DNAndrews, Oops! Sorry folks! DNA you are quite right! That's what happens when one sometimes writtes in a haste... Correction: 10 mm = 1 cm = 0,3937007 of an inch José Campos - Original Message - From: DNAndrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jose Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:13 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] re: meteorite photography scales Jose Campos wrote: It's 10 mm = 2.54 I don't think so. It's 2.54 cm = 1 inch. Hair splitting Dave ;-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite photography scales
Svend and others, 2.57 I must not have been awake. It is 25.4 mm per cm and 2.54 cm per inch. From the so-called Professional Mechanical Engineer, John Svend and others, I would believe most are centimeter cubes. 10 millimeters in a cube...2.57 cubes in an inch, etc. John __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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on 9/5/03 2:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Svend and others, 2.57 I must not have been awake. It is 25.4 mm per cm and 2.54 cm per inch. From the so-called Professional Mechanical Engineer, John still got it wrong. I may not know per inch, but it is TEN mm per cm not 25.4 Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Ah..good job Michael you passed the test...and you wanta meet my wife... Morgan Fairchild...ya that's it. Sheesh...I better stop now. Thanx guys for keeping me down and out...pass me the bottle, JD on 9/5/03 2:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Svend and others, 2.57 I must not have been awake. It is 25.4 mm per cm and 2.54 cm per inch. From the so-called Professional Mechanical Engineer, John still got it wrong. I may not know per inch, but it is TEN mm per cm not 25.4 Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite photography scales
perhaps something like this; 1 cm = 10 mm = 0.393700786 inch 1 inch = 2.54 cm = 25.4 mm so, 2.54 x 0.393700786 = 0.997 pekka s Michael L Blood wrote: on 9/5/03 2:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Svend and others,2.57 I must not have been awake. It is 25.4 mm per cm and 2.54 cm perinch. From the so-called Professional Mechanical Engineer,John still got it wrong. I may not know per inch, but it isTEN mm per cm not 25.4Michael__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite photography scales
Come on, JD, you're on a roll. on 9/5/03 2:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah..good job Michael you passed the test...and you wanta meet my wife... Morgan Fairchild...ya that's it. Sheesh...I better stop now. Thanx guys for keeping me down and out...pass me the bottle, JD on 9/5/03 2:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Svend and others, 2.57 I must not have been awake. It is 25.4 mm per cm and 2.54 cm per inch. From the so-called Professional Mechanical Engineer, John still got it wrong. I may not know per inch, but it is TEN mm per cm not 25.4 Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. Philip K. Dick -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite photography scales
Guys, Just try google: mm to inch or cm to inch or whatever you want (even nm to inch is working). Sergey Ah..good job Michael you passed the test...and you wanta meet my wife... Morgan Fairchild...ya that's it. Sheesh...I better stop now. Thanx guys for keeping me down and out...pass me the bottle, JD on 9/5/03 2:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Svend and others, 2.57 I must not have been awake. It is 25.4 mm per cm and 2.54 cm per inch. From the so-called Professional Mechanical Engineer, John still got it wrong. I may not know per inch, but it is TEN mm per cm not 25.4 Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more
Hey Sergey! Tks for the link to the pic! And for the info. Now THAT is a cube! (...proportional to the size of the meteorite? LOL!) Norbert, Tks for you info too. I kind of thought that perhaps the other (visible) letters of the cube on several photos that I have seen, might stand for North, South, East and West, but I was not sure. As B for Bottom, I did not know about that - I have never seen these cubes other than in photos. But why the N1? Could the 1 (or a vertical line) be there to help place the cube correctly in order to avoid confusion with a Z? And what about the S1 (or a vertical line)? Tom, BTW on a lighter note, if Top stands for TOM, then perhaps the Bottom should stand for...JERRY?) José Campos - Original Message - From: Sergey Vasiliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more Hello all, Guess the size of the cube and day time ;-) http://sv-meteorites.iol.cz/sv-meteorites/fun1.asp Regards, Sergey Hi Jose, and all, As to the 10x10x10mm cubes you wrote: Perhaps the T on the cube stands for Top? What about the other letters? Yes, the T stands for Top. The other letters are B, E, N, W, S - so guess what? They stand for: B = Bottom E = East N = North W = West S = South The cube is not only used as a scale (at least not in the documentation of Antarctic finds), but also to indicate the exact spatial location of the meteorite at his find location. Good idea, isn't it ;-? However, I've seen more than one case (in non-Antarctic use) where the photographer obviously wasn't aware of this secondary function of the cube. Hope I helped clearing this issue beyond its arithmetic implications. As far as I'm concerned I have NO idea why some folks still stick to anachronistic measures such as inch, foot, or yard. Time to adopt to the metric system, isn't it ;-? BTW, these cubes ARE metric, at least the original ones used by the ANSMET. Best, Norbert __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more
Hi List, We do not seem to know for sure what the letters on the cube stand for, so do they even need to be there? Can a blank cube work? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Jose Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:54 PM Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more Hey Sergey! Tks for the link to the pic! And for the info. Now THAT is a cube! (...proportional to the size of the meteorite? LOL!) Norbert, Tks for you info too. I kind of thought that perhaps the other (visible) letters of the cube on several photos that I have seen, might stand for North, South, East and West, but I was not sure. As B for Bottom, I did not know about that - I have never seen these cubes other than in photos. But why the N1? Could the 1 (or a vertical line) be there to help place the cube correctly in order to avoid confusion with a Z? And what about the S1 (or a vertical line)? Tom, BTW on a lighter note, if Top stands for TOM, then perhaps the Bottom should stand for...JERRY?) José Campos - Original Message - From: Sergey Vasiliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more Hello all, Guess the size of the cube and day time ;-) http://sv-meteorites.iol.cz/sv-meteorites/fun1.asp Regards, Sergey Hi Jose, and all, As to the 10x10x10mm cubes you wrote: Perhaps the T on the cube stands for Top? What about the other letters? Yes, the T stands for Top. The other letters are B, E, N, W, S - so guess what? They stand for: B = Bottom E = East N = North W = West S = South The cube is not only used as a scale (at least not in the documentation of Antarctic finds), but also to indicate the exact spatial location of the meteorite at his find location. Good idea, isn't it ;-? However, I've seen more than one case (in non-Antarctic use) where the photographer obviously wasn't aware of this secondary function of the cube. Hope I helped clearing this issue beyond its arithmetic implications. As far as I'm concerned I have NO idea why some folks still stick to anachronistic measures such as inch, foot, or yard. Time to adopt to the metric system, isn't it ;-? BTW, these cubes ARE metric, at least the original ones used by the ANSMET. Best, Norbert __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: (meteorite-list) meteorite photography scales.
Greetings all brand new collector here Advice from another dumb engineer but why not just get a small ruler with metric on one side and US standard on other and use it? Or as a second idea get a small flat piece of wood that is rectangular, measure out cm notches on it and paint it alternately black and white? Personnally I would go with the ruler, but I am just another high IQ, low common sense engineer (as my wife tells me). James Carroll Carroll Family [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more
List, it is clear we all can use this! http://www.katmarsoftware.com/uconeer.htm I downloaded this small program and it is the best thing on my comp You can convert anything!!! Please check it out, it is great... Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more
Hi Tom and List, I suppose a blank cube works, as long as it's of a known size. BTW use goggle to search for centimeter cubes - there are a few sites in the USA offering 1x1x1cm cubes (with no letters), in wood or in plastic, with diferent colours, to be mainly used as educational tools for kids at schools: 500 cubes, with 50 cubes per 10 diff. colours, costs US $13.95 - and each 1x1x1=1cm3 cube weighs 1 gram ( Norbert is right, they ARE METRIC). Moni - Thanks for you info too - and a nice week-end to you all. José Campos - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jose Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more Hi List, We do not seem to know for sure what the letters on the cube stand for, so do they even need to be there? Can a blank cube work? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Jose Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:54 PM Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more Hey Sergey! Tks for the link to the pic! And for the info. Now THAT is a cube! (...proportional to the size of the meteorite? LOL!) Norbert, Tks for you info too. I kind of thought that perhaps the other (visible) letters of the cube on several photos that I have seen, might stand for North, South, East and West, but I was not sure. As B for Bottom, I did not know about that - I have never seen these cubes other than in photos. But why the N1? Could the 1 (or a vertical line) be there to help place the cube correctly in order to avoid confusion with a Z? And what about the S1 (or a vertical line)? Tom, BTW on a lighter note, if Top stands for TOM, then perhaps the Bottom should stand for...JERRY?) José Campos - Original Message - From: Sergey Vasiliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more Hello all, Guess the size of the cube and day time ;-) http://sv-meteorites.iol.cz/sv-meteorites/fun1.asp Regards, Sergey Hi Jose, and all, As to the 10x10x10mm cubes you wrote: Perhaps the T on the cube stands for Top? What about the other letters? Yes, the T stands for Top. The other letters are B, E, N, W, S - so guess what? They stand for: B = Bottom E = East N = North W = West S = South The cube is not only used as a scale (at least not in the documentation of Antarctic finds), but also to indicate the exact spatial location of the meteorite at his find location. Good idea, isn't it ;-? However, I've seen more than one case (in non-Antarctic use) where the photographer obviously wasn't aware of this secondary function of the cube. Hope I helped clearing this issue beyond its arithmetic implications. As far as I'm concerned I have NO idea why some folks still stick to anachronistic measures such as inch, foot, or yard. Time to adopt to the metric system, isn't it ;-? BTW, these cubes ARE metric, at least the original ones used by the ANSMET. Best, Norbert __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more
Hi Jose, Tom, and all, Jose asked: But why the N1? Could the 1 (or a vertical line) be there to help place the cube correctly in order to avoid confusion with a Z? And what about the S1 (or a vertical line)? Again, it's rather simple - it's a point of reference for the photos that are taken in a flat angle (where you don't see the top of the cube). The point or 1 simply shows where the bottom of the cube is located. For those who are bit slow, today - if you turn the N or the S upside down it's still an N or an S, and so you need an additional mark to know it's correct position in 3D space. That's all. Tom wrote: We do not seem to know for sure what the letters on the cube stand for, so do they even need to be there? Can a blank cube work? Of course, a blank cube will do the job, but - believe me - I wasn't joking about the meaning of the letters: they actually stand for Top, Bottom, North, South, East, and West. Brice asked: Okay, but where can I purchase one? Someone on here must have a spare... As far as I know, Bob Verish had some for sale, but maybe he's out of the cube business by now? Bob? Some people are in need of a few metric cubes! Please help these guys, or they will end up inching their own ;-) Best, Norbert __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] new ebay auctions
Hey everybody! I have new ebay auctions running. Here is the link: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoriten/ And for anybody who is interested in historical meteorites. I have an auction running for probably the most historical meteorites of all, al small slice of Elbogen! So go and check em out. Good Luck to anyone who is placing a bid. Best Regards Moritz Karl Gutzkowstr. 77 60594 Frankfurt Germany www.m3t3orites.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #0818
Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more
Ok, But when I am looking to buy a meteorite, and it is sitting next to a meteorite on someone desk, why do we need to know the directions? I am just comparing size? Is there another use for these cubes when direction is important? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:38 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more Hi Jose, Tom, and all, Jose asked: But why the N1? Could the 1 (or a vertical line) be there to help place the cube correctly in order to avoid confusion with a Z? And what about the S1 (or a vertical line)? Again, it's rather simple - it's a point of reference for the photos that are taken in a flat angle (where you don't see the top of the cube). The point or 1 simply shows where the bottom of the cube is located. For those who are bit slow, today - if you turn the N or the S upside down it's still an N or an S, and so you need an additional mark to know it's correct position in 3D space. That's all. Tom wrote: We do not seem to know for sure what the letters on the cube stand for, so do they even need to be there? Can a blank cube work? Of course, a blank cube will do the job, but - believe me - I wasn't joking about the meaning of the letters: they actually stand for Top, Bottom, North, South, East, and West. Brice asked: Okay, but where can I purchase one? Someone on here must have a spare... As far as I know, Bob Verish had some for sale, but maybe he's out of the cube business by now? Bob? Some people are in need of a few metric cubes! Please help these guys, or they will end up inching their own ;-) Best, Norbert __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] anyone with 1/2 million?
Anyone on the list with $450,000 burning a hole in their pocket? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2190932023 Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more
Let's see. Cubes, quarters, a variety of fingers that look like something out of the thansgiving parade, for micro's, various hand poses to compliment size. All viable methods... Ok, But when I am looking to buy a meteorite, and it is sitting next to a meteorite on someone desk, why do we need to know the directions? I am just comparing size? Is there another use for these cubes when direction is important? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:38 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more Hi Jose, Tom, and all, Jose asked: But why the N1? Could the 1 (or a vertical line) be there to help place the cube correctly in order to avoid confusion with a Z? And what about the S1 (or a vertical line)? Again, it's rather simple - it's a point of reference for the photos that are taken in a flat angle (where you don't see the top of the cube). The point or 1 simply shows where the bottom of the cube is located. For those who are bit slow, today - if you turn the N or the S upside down it's still an N or an S, and so you need an additional mark to know it's correct position in 3D space. That's all. Tom wrote: We do not seem to know for sure what the letters on the cube stand for, so do they even need to be there? Can a blank cube work? Of course, a blank cube will do the job, but - believe me - I wasn't joking about the meaning of the letters: they actually stand for Top, Bottom, North, South, East, and West. Brice asked: Okay, but where can I purchase one? Someone on here must have a spare... As far as I know, Bob Verish had some for sale, but maybe he's out of the cube business by now? Bob? Some people are in need of a few metric cubes! Please help these guys, or they will end up inching their own ;-) Best, Norbert __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] anyone with 1/2 million?
How much is that a gram? Is it worth it? It is not the biggest in private hands is it? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:23 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] anyone with 1/2 million? Anyone on the list with $450,000 burning a hole in their pocket? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2190932023 Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: anyone with 1/2 million? a Zagami for You
Before anyone bids $450,000 for a 188 gram super hyped piece of Zagami they should consider the 43.9 slice of DAG 476 (a Shergottite) that Eric Twelker of the Meteorite Market has for only $10,975.00. I must say that I have lusted after that one myself, but none of my lottery investments have paid off yet! Mike Fowler Chicago Anyone on the list with $450,000 burning a hole in their pocket? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2190932023 Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: TOP METEORITE COLLECTION SPECIMEN OFFER
- Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham To: Michael Cottingham Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 8:24 PM Subject: TOP METEORITE COLLECTION SPECIMEN OFFER Hello Everyone, Some really choice items for sale. PAYPAL or Money Order ONLY. I would prefer MONEY ORDERS. PLEASE MAKE OFFERS ON THE SPECIMENS BELOW. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham Go To This Link to see All the photos: http://photos.yahoo.com/goatman38 Open the file marked "Top Meteorite Collection Specimens" Try the slide show presentation...I think it works very well. CAMPOS SALES, L5, Ceara, Brazil, Fell; January 31, 1991 at 2200hrs. Endcut... 133.37 gram... FALSEY DRAW, L6 Chondrite, Chaves County, New Mexico, Found 1997, TKW 4.18 kg. Complete Slice...200 gram ... FREDERICKSBURG, Hexahedrite IIAB, Fredericksburg, Texas, Found 1930's, TKW 30kg. Endcut... 648 gram HAMMADAH AL HAMRA 183, LL6 Chondrite, Jabal al Gharb, Libya, Found 1996, TKW 5kg. End Piece with 3 cut faces. 562 gram KAINSAZ, CO3, Tartar Republic, Russia, Fell; Sept., 13, 1937, TKW 200kg. Whole Stone 140.33 gram. KUNASHANK, L6, Chelyabinskaya, Russia, Fell June 11, 1949 @ 0814hrs, TKW 200kg. Half Slice. 256 gram... NORTHBRANCH, H5 Chondrite, Jewell County, Kansas, Found 1972, TKW 76kg. Endcut... 1750 gram.. NWA 250, L6 Chondrite, Eastern Morocco, Found 2000, TKW 69 kg. Complete slice 572 gram O'DONNEL, H5 Chondrite, Dawson County, Texas, USA found 1992, TKW 12.7kg. Complete Slice. 298 gram. OUM ROKBA, H5 Chondrite, Oum Rokba, Morocco, Found 2000, TKW 80kg. Individual 1426 gram. PARK FOREST, L5 Chondrite, Cook County, Illinois, USA, Fell March 26, 20003 at 2350hrs, TKW ~20kg. Half Individual with Yellow Paint "Curb Smasher". 145.21 gram POWELLSVILLE, H5 Chondrite, Scioto County, Ohio, USA, Found 1990, TKW 4.310kg. Endcut 1236 gram.. THUATHE, H4 Chondrite, Maseru, Lesotho, Fell July 21, 2002 at 1549hrs, TKW ~35kg. Individual 254 gram.. URUACU, IAB Iron, Goias, Brazil, Found 1992, TKW 72.5kg. Complete Slice.. 316 gram WAGON MOUND, L6 Chondrite, Mora County, New Mexico, USA, Found 1932, TKW 87.5kg. Complete slice. 778 gram... ZAG, H3-6, Western Sahara or Morocco, Fell August 1998, TKW 175kg. End Piece... 1400 gram..
RE: [meteorite-list] puturano
I do. Much of it. matt Morgan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] puturano Hi list.Does anyone have any PUTURANO forsale?I am looking for a 100 to 200 gram piece.Who has any?Let me know. steve arnold = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more
Hi, If any one is looking for a meteorite photography scale I have made some and can sell them for $5.00 each. I you want one please let me know. Thanks, Peter Scherff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brice D. Hornback Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:50 PM To: Norbert Classen; Jose Campos Cc: meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more Okay, but where can I purchase one? Someone on here must have a spare... Thanks, Brice - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jose Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:15 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more Hi Jose, and all, As to the 10x10x10mm cubes you wrote: Perhaps the T on the cube stands for Top? What about the other letters? Yes, the T stands for Top. The other letters are B, E, N, W, S - so guess what? They stand for: B = Bottom E = East N = North W = West S = South The cube is not only used as a scale (at least not in the documentation of Antarctic finds), but also to indicate the exact spatial location of the meteorite at his find location. Good idea, isn't it ;-? However, I've seen more than one case (in non-Antarctic use) where the photographer obviously wasn't aware of this secondary function of the cube. Hope I helped clearing this issue beyond its arithmetic implications. As far as I'm concerned I have NO idea why some folks still stick to anachronistic measures such as inch, foot, or yard. Time to adopt to the metric system, isn't it ;-? BTW, these cubes ARE metric, at least the original ones used by the ANSMET. Best, Norbert __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite photography scales
Dear List; Well, to coin the most popular song on the country chartsIt's five o'clock some where...! Dave F. :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah..good job Michael you passed the test...and you wanta meet my wife... Morgan Fairchild...ya that's it. Sheesh...I better stop now. Thanx guys for keeping me down and out...pass me the bottle, JD on 9/5/03 2:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Svend and others, 2.57 I must not have been awake. It is 25.4 mm per cm and 2.54 cm per inch. From the so-called Professional Mechanical Engineer, John still got it wrong. I may not know per inch, but it is TEN mm per cm not 25.4 Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Putorano
Hi Matt and list, How much Putorano is out there? What is it's TKW? I realize it's not a meteorite and TKW may not apply, but how can one judge it's rarity? By the way, I have two pieces, that Steve has seen and the exterior is so different, that I wonder about the authenticity of one of them. Do they vary a lot? Is it possible that there are fake Putoranos. How would one know? Thanks, Mike Fowler Subject: [meteorite-list] putorano Hi list. Does anyone have any PUTURANO forsale?I am looking for a 100 to 200 gram piece. Who has any? Let me know. Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! I do. Much of it. matt Morgan __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] Re: anyone with 1/2 million? a Zagami for You
Hi List, Again, on a lighter note: Regarding the 3rd photo of the $450.000 Zagami meteorite in the e-bay site, I suppose that the flat cube shown goes nicely with the meteorite's shown value! Who cares if there is no 1 (vertical mark) visible...perhaps the owner had in mind a...2D space frame. José Campos - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:42 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: anyone with 1/2 million? a Zagami for You Before anyone bids $450,000 for a 188 gram super hyped piece of Zagami they should consider the 43.9 slice of DAG 476 (a Shergottite) that Eric Twelker of the Meteorite Market has for only $10,975.00. I must say that I have lusted after that one myself, but none of my lottery investments have paid off yet! Mike Fowler Chicago Anyone on the list with $450,000 burning a hole in their pocket? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2190932023 Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] anyone with 1/2 million?
If just 100 of us pool our interests, we can each have a 1.88g piece for a paltry investment of $4,500.00 each! (Assuming of course, no material loss, and I wonder what that would be!). Paypal would most likely get $300.00from each of us on the commission alone,... what a bargain! --- Should we get insurance??? :^) Charlyv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom aka James Knudson Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:35 PM To: meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] anyone with 1/2 million? How much is that a gram? Is it worth it? It is not the biggest in private hands is it? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:23 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] anyone with 1/2 million? Anyone on the list with $450,000 burning a hole in their pocket? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2190932023 Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
