[meteorite-list] 11 Reasons Everyone Should Own A Meteorite! Any More?

2008-01-12 Thread Eric Wichman

Hi All,

Wow! I want to thank everyone for your compliments and comments on my 
10 Reasons list. Very cool indeed.


Thanks to,everyone and particularly Rob Matson for his kind 
suggestions on some minor changes to the list, namely numbers 3, 7  
9. I've updated numbers 3  9 to better reflect a more OPEN mind-set 
about how long meteoroids were floating around in our solar system 
before crashing to Earth. In # 7 I changed the word sometimes to MANY 
in reference to how old meteorites truly are.


In addition I added a neat little link I found when researching 
information for the list: 
http://www.mnh.si.edu/earth/text/5_1_4_0.html This is a neat little 
article I'm sure many of you already know about but it supports # 9 
on my list very distinctly and therefore I like it! ;) Just kidding, 
I'd put it on the list anyway just because it's good info and an 
awesome theory. Maybe a bit more than a theory. Our planet had to 
come from somewhere so that's my best guess. Read it and decide for yourself.


I've also split # 10 into two separate reasons since I added a # 11 
with the Meteorites Make Great Gifts. statement. Also # 10 was 
expanded and I made it more meteorite collecting related.


Again, I really appreciate everyone's comments and can't wait to hear 
the feedback on the changes.


Talk to you guys soon...


Regards,
Eric Wichman
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ALL 3 major search engines and have GREAT page rank on both sites. 
Let me know if you would like to trade links, send me an Email with 
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[meteorite-list] The high-pitched scream?

2008-01-12 Thread Mark Crawford

Hi folks,

On another forum someone posted about a recent TV programme he'd watched 
about NEOs.  At the end the guest astronomer said something to the 
effect that the first we know about an incoming impactor could be the 
high-pitched scream as it speeds through the atmosphere.


It got me wondering; a sizeable body would be travelling at cosmic (ie 
very supersonic) velocity right through to impact, and therefore the 
scream should trail behind the object - in other words, we wouldn't 
even get that much warning.


Was the speaker using poetic license or would there be any kind of 
fore-shock?


Mark

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[meteorite-list] Sale , USA's first and only R Chondrite fragments for sale!

2008-01-12 Thread wahlperry

Hi,

I have a couple of pieces of the Nevada R chondrite I found for sale. 
This is the first and only R chondrite found to date in the USA. Only a 
few pieces will be available. TKW is only 70 grams. Classification was 
done by the Smithsonian Institution and will be published in the next 
Meteoritical Bulletin. The main mass is at TCU in the Oscar Monnig 
Collection. Its classification is an R3-6 R chondrite. A few pictures 
of the main mass are on my web page.


Piece #1 2.2 gram fragment with no crust.
Piece #2 3 gram fragment with fusion crust on one end.

Email me off list for price and pictures.
Thanks,
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[meteorite-list] AD: Pre-Tucson Sale

2008-01-12 Thread Jason Phillips

Pre-Tucson sale:

These are specimens that I have had in my personal collection for the last 
several years. They were picked because of their beauty, aesthetic features 
and true historic significance. Besides these offerings I will accept offers 
on specimens that are on my website www.rocksfromheaven.com - Thanks, Jason




Alamogordo: A rare slice of this 1938 find. It weighs 59.8 grams and comes 
with the original American Meteorite Laboratory specimen label and has 
painted numbers (77.63). The price on this extremely rare and historic 
offering is $550.


Allende: This CV3 material is very undervalued for such a rare 
classification and a witnessed fall from 1969. This specimen is a full slice 
weighing 57.3 grams. The price is $500.


Bruderheim: A complete slice of this incredible fall from March 4, 1960. 
This is a rare offering of a Canadian meteorite. This specimen was pictured 
in the book Rocks from Space and graced many great collections before ending 
up in mine several years ago. The price of this specimen in $450.


Etter: A part slice of this L6 from Texas. It weighs 81.6 grams, but the 
true treat of this specimen is the original American Meteorite Laboratory 
label and painted numbers (H47.172). The price on this $500.


Imilac: A beautiful 162 gram individual that is shaped like a rose. I was 
told by one aesthetic meteorite collector that this was one of the nicest 
Imilac specimens he had ever seen. It has several crystals protruding and if 
desired could be cut up into several nice slices. Specimens such as this are 
rarely offered and especially at such a low price.- $1600.


Monze: A 44.8 gram full slice of this rare fall (Oct. 5, 1950) from Zambia. 
This specimen shows great inclusions and crust. The price is $400.


Pultusk: This is an incredible specimen with primary and secondary fusion 
crust from a fall in 1868, which looks as though it fell yesterday. It 
weighs 59.1 grams and comes with it's an original museum label from the 
Museum National D'Histoire Naturelle. The price on this specimen is $1000.


Suizhou: A 54 gram specimen from this L6 meteorite that fell in China in 
1986. The price of this rare offering is $450.


Wiluna: A western Australia fall from September 2, 1967. This is a 
beautifully crusted 19.44 gram piece with two sets of museum numbers painted 
on the top and side (#12934 and #354). The price on this rare specimen is 
$400.


NWA 869: A 2664 gram individual with great dark crust and is shaped like a 
small loaf of bread. The NWA 869 find is arguably one of the nicest 
meteorites to come out of Africa with an interior that is full of 
interesting inclusions and features. This specimen would be a centerpiece in 
many collections. If desired it could be cut making several hamburger size 
slices. The price on slices could easily reach one dollar a gram, but on 
this whole specimen the price is just under $.25/cent a gram ($665).


NWA 869: Another outstanding individual from this find weighing 7230 grams. 
This is a flatter specimen covered with thumbprints and a rich dark crust. 
It displays very well and measures 9 inches X 8 inches X 3 inches. If 
desired this specimen could be sliced up making slices about this size of 
dinner plates, which is what will be done if it does not sell. The price on 
this specimen is just over $.22/cent a gram at $1650.


NWA 2965: One of the most intriguing meteorites and definitely one of the 
most undervalued to come out of Morocco. Whether it is a EL3, EL6, or 
Aubrite it is truly an incredible meteorite that will not always be as cheap 
as it has been the past year. This specimen is an endcut that weighs 5909 
grams (I have the other half in my personal collection) and is the brown 
interior with black veins. The price on this specimen is wholesaled at $600.


NWA 3163 (lunar): This is 10 grams of the moon. Offered here is 10 grams of 
lunar dust from the cutting of NWA 3163. The material is so beautiful and 
looks as though it was just dusted off of the moon itself. This would be 
great to use for many different types of projects (jewelry, educational 
kits, etc.). The price is sure to continue to climb on lunar material in the 
future, but this material is offered for $1000 for all 10 grams.


Dhofar 1289: Two endcuts (347 grams and 1324 grams) of this nice looking L4 
with a tan interior with some neat inclusions that are brown, orange, and 
black. These are a great price at $0.15/gram.




Have a great weekend,

Jason

Rocks from Heaven

www.rocksfromheaven.com

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[meteorite-list] New Mongolia Meteorite?

2008-01-12 Thread Mike Bandli
A friend forwarded this to me:

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2112353/pag
e/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1

even sonic stations in Ulaanbaatar have received the sound waves/in a dist.
of about 1300km/. There are about 100 witnesses of the event.

Anyone else?

Cheers,
Mike Bandli




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[meteorite-list] Unclassified NWAs: What's the attraction?

2008-01-12 Thread Bob Loeffler
Hi all,

I've seen on some websites that dealers are selling unclassified NWAs.
Maybe it's because I'm such a newbie, but I don't understand why anyone
would want to buy them, especially if they look like just a typical ordinary
chondrite or iron?  It's just a space rock that was found somewhere in NWA
(not a specific place) and isn't even classified yet, so you don't know if
it's an H, L, LL, etc.  Do people buy them because they are cheap, or
because they are a mystery, or for some other reason?  If someone else gets
one classified, you have no way to know if the one you just bought is paired
with it, or another one or is unpaired.  There is no record, so no way to
find out later.

I'm sorry if this has been talked about on this list before.  I've been
lurking for only a couple months and hadn't seen it mentioned.

Thanks for any feedback!

Regards,

Bob

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Re: [meteorite-list] Unclassified NWAs: What's the attraction?

2008-01-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:07:47 -0700, you wrote:

chondrite or iron?  It's just a space rock that was found somewhere in NWA

For some of us, the space rock part is the important one, not what random spot
on the Earth it just happened to land.  There is no just about it.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Unclassified NWAs: What's the attraction?

2008-01-12 Thread Andreas Gren
Hi Bob

Because of the circumstance you allready mentioned:
It's (just) a space rock

Best regards
Andi


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Hi all,

I've seen on some websites that dealers are selling unclassified NWAs.
Maybe it's because I'm such a newbie, but I don't understand why anyone
would want to buy them, especially if they look like just a typical ordinary
chondrite or iron?  It's just a space rock that was found somewhere in NWA
(not a specific place) and isn't even classified yet, so you don't know if
it's an H, L, LL, etc.  Do people buy them because they are cheap, or
because they are a mystery, or for some other reason?  If someone else gets
one classified, you have no way to know if the one you just bought is paired
with it, or another one or is unpaired.  There is no record, so no way to
find out later.

I'm sorry if this has been talked about on this list before.  I've been
lurking for only a couple months and hadn't seen it mentioned.

Thanks for any feedback!

Regards,

Bob

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Re: [meteorite-list] Unclassified NWAs: What's the attraction?

2008-01-12 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
WOW!  I can't remain silent.  MOST of us are interested in the  rocks, you 
know the material that came from out of this world.  I've heard  it said There 
is no such thing as an ordinary chondrite and that applies to  all rocks from 
space.

Your argument belongs in a Bennie Baby Club.   Why collect any with bent 
tags?  Or Pokemon, Why collect any that aren't  first edition?

With meteorites, it is MUCH more than the  collecting
 
Tom



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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi all,

I've seen on some websites that  dealers are selling unclassified NWAs.
Maybe it's because I'm such a newbie,  but I don't understand why anyone
would want to buy them, especially if they  look like just a typical ordinary
chondrite or iron?  It's just a space  rock that was found somewhere in NWA
(not a specific place) and isn't even  classified yet, so you don't know if
it's an H, L, LL, etc.  Do people  buy them because they are cheap, or
because they are a mystery, or for some  other reason?  If someone else gets
one classified, you have no way to  know if the one you just bought is paired
with it, or another one or is  unpaired.  There is no record, so no way to
find out later.

I'm  sorry if this has been talked about on this list before.  I've  been
lurking for only a couple months and hadn't seen it  mentioned.

Thanks for any  feedback!

Regards,

Bob

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[meteorite-list] Inexpensive irons for sale for a good cause?

2008-01-12 Thread Bob Loeffler
Hi all,

I am looking for a source for very inexpensive irons.  They should be small
(around 10-15g) and $0.20 to $0.30 each.  Can these be found at this price?
At the lower end, I could buy a couple hundred of them.  The cheaper they
are, the more I can buy.  :-)  I am wanting them to give away to school
children at one of the big shows next year.  I would provide labels for
them, so I would need a little more info than just Meteorite.  :-)  I
would at least need to know where they came from (e.g. Sikhote-Alin or
Nantan or whatever).  A mixture of different locations would be fine, too.
I just want to make sure that they are really meteorites and not terrestrial
iron junk or slag.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks and regards,

Bob

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[meteorite-list] Thanks for 50,000 views on youtube.com!

2008-01-12 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all,

I just wanted to write to say THANK YOU to everyone
for making me the most popular meteorite hunter on
youtube.com. I uploaded my first video 5 months ago,
and to date- all my videos combined - have received
over 50,000 views. This number includes 1 video
contest that is no longer on youtube.

For those of you that don't know, there are other
great videos from - Rob Matson, Bob Haag, Jason
Snyder, and others.

My youtube.com site.
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=r

Thanks again!

Ruben Garcia
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Re: [meteorite-list] Inexpensive irons for sale for a good cause?

2008-01-12 Thread mexicodoug
I am looking for a source for very inexpensive irons.  They should be small 
(around 10-15g) and $0.20 to $0.30 each...At the lower end, I could buy a 
couple hundred of them.


Hi Bob,

Two cents per gram and classified means at best you could manage $40 to $60 
for 2Kg to 3Kg of conveniently sized individuals.  Are you sure that is what 
you meant, becuase, if you find someone, this collectors behind you will be 
worse than a run at the Fiesta of San Fermin.


The best bet will be crushed Campos for over $2 per piece in that price and 
size range.


Good Luck
Doug



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Subject: [meteorite-list] Inexpensive irons for sale for a good cause?



Hi all,

I am looking for a source for very inexpensive irons.  They should be 
small
(around 10-15g) and $0.20 to $0.30 each.  Can these be found at this 
price?

At the lower end, I could buy a couple hundred of them.  The cheaper they
are, the more I can buy.  :-)  I am wanting them to give away to school
children at one of the big shows next year.  I would provide labels for
them, so I would need a little more info than just Meteorite.  :-)  I
would at least need to know where they came from (e.g. Sikhote-Alin or
Nantan or whatever).  A mixture of different locations would be fine, too.
I just want to make sure that they are really meteorites and not 
terrestrial

iron junk or slag.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks and regards,

Bob

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Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for 50,000 views on youtube.com!

2008-01-12 Thread Ruben Garcia
Sonny,
I was wondering why my counter kept going up on your
days off.

But thanks anyway for making me look good!


Hi Ruben,
I have to confess. 48,906 views were done by me.
Sorry!

Sonny




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Re: [meteorite-list] Unclassified NWAs: What's the attraction?

2008-01-12 Thread Walter Branch

Hi Bob,


Do people buy them because they are cheap,


Yes, some do.


because they are a mystery,


Yes, some do.


or for some other reason?


Yes, some may want to create a diorama-like strewn field for display 
purposes.  I have sometimes thought of doing this.


Some (myself included) have bought them to give away to kids at various 
functions.


I recently had a country crock container about filled with cheap NWA 
material that I gave away to boy scouts after they looked at the moon 
through my scope.  Of course, being at night in a campground, some boys lost 
theirs in the grass so I would just reach in and hand them another.


Some buy cheap NWA material to practice with, when they are first learning 
to cut meteorite material.


Some buy them for re-sale, possibly thinking a huge mark-up will make them a 
lot of money.



If someone else gets one classified,


Few will bother to even attempt to get an NWA classified unless they first 
have cut a window into it and discovered what may be an achondrite.


Hope this helps,

-Walter Branch.


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Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:07 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Unclassified NWAs: What's the attraction?



Hi all,

I've seen on some websites that dealers are selling unclassified NWAs.
Maybe it's because I'm such a newbie, but I don't understand why anyone
would want to buy them, especially if they look like just a typical 
ordinary

chondrite or iron?  It's just a space rock that was found somewhere in NWA
(not a specific place) and isn't even classified yet, so you don't know if
it's an H, L, LL, etc.  Do people buy them because they are cheap, or
because they are a mystery, or for some other reason?  If someone else 
gets
one classified, you have no way to know if the one you just bought is 
paired

with it, or another one or is unpaired.  There is no record, so no way to
find out later.

I'm sorry if this has been talked about on this list before.  I've been
lurking for only a couple months and hadn't seen it mentioned.

Thanks for any feedback!

Regards,

Bob

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Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for 50,000 views on youtube.com!

2008-01-12 Thread Walter Branch

Hi Ruben and Sonny,

Well, I had a few views, as well :-)

-Walter

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Hi Ruben,
I have to confess. 48,906 views were done by me. Sorry!

Sonny


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Hi all,

I just wanted to write to say THANK YOU to everyone
for making me the most popular meteorite hunter on
youtube.com. I uploaded my first video 5 months ago,
and to date- all my videos combined - have received
over 50,000 views. This number includes 1 video
contest that is no longer on youtube.

For those of you that don't know, there are other
great videos from - Rob Matson, Bob Haag, Jason
Snyder, and others.

My youtube.com site.
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=r

Thanks again!

Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
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Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for 50,000 views on youtube.com!

2008-01-12 Thread wahlperry

Hi Ruben,
I have to confess. 48,906 views were done by me. Sorry!

Sonny


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Hi all,

I just wanted to write to say THANK YOU to everyone
for making me the most popular meteorite hunter on
youtube.com. I uploaded my first video 5 months ago,
and to date- all my videos combined - have received
over 50,000 views. This number includes 1 video
contest that is no longer on youtube.

For those of you that don't know, there are other
great videos from - Rob Matson, Bob Haag, Jason
Snyder, and others.

My youtube.com site.
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=r

Thanks again!

Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
http://www.mr-meteorite.com


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Re: [meteorite-list] The high-pitched scream?

2008-01-12 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Mark,

That high-pitched scream you hear 
as the one kilometer impactor drops on the 
planet is not coming from the impactor -- 
it's coming from us!
My research indicates about half the 
human population emits a high-pitched 
scream while the other half creates a strong 
low-frequency rumble that sounds alot like 
Oh, Sh!


Sterling K. Webb
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Subject: [meteorite-list] The high-pitched scream?


Hi folks,

On another forum someone posted about a recent TV programme he'd watched 
about NEOs.  At the end the guest astronomer said something to the 
effect that the first we know about an incoming impactor could be the 
high-pitched scream as it speeds through the atmosphere.

It got me wondering; a sizeable body would be travelling at cosmic (ie 
very supersonic) velocity right through to impact, and therefore the 
scream should trail behind the object - in other words, we wouldn't 
even get that much warning.

Was the speaker using poetic license or would there be any kind of 
fore-shock?

Mark

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Re: [meteorite-list] Unclassified NWAs: What's the attraction?

2008-01-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:52:31 -0500, you wrote:

Yes, some may want to create a diorama-like strewn field for display 
purposes.  I have sometimes thought of doing this.

Yes, me too!  Get some sand, put it in a tray, arrange some meteorites.  I have
70+ fully crusted 869s that would make a nice looking strewn field.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Inexpensive irons for sale for a good cause?

2008-01-12 Thread Walter Branch

Hi Bob,


around 10-15g) and $0.20 to $0.30 each.  Can these be found at this price?


In a word, no.

Sounds like you need some cheap, unclassified NWA material :-)

-Walter Branch

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Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Inexpensive irons for sale for a good cause?



Hi all,

I am looking for a source for very inexpensive irons.  They should be 
small
(around 10-15g) and $0.20 to $0.30 each.  Can these be found at this 
price?

At the lower end, I could buy a couple hundred of them.  The cheaper they
are, the more I can buy.  :-)  I am wanting them to give away to school
children at one of the big shows next year.  I would provide labels for
them, so I would need a little more info than just Meteorite.  :-)  I
would at least need to know where they came from (e.g. Sikhote-Alin or
Nantan or whatever).  A mixture of different locations would be fine, too.
I just want to make sure that they are really meteorites and not 
terrestrial

iron junk or slag.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks and regards,

Bob

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[meteorite-list] Unclassified NWAs: What's the attraction?

2008-01-12 Thread bernd . pauli
Tom wrote:

WOW! I can't remain silent.  MOST of us are interested in the  rocks, you 
know the material that came from out of this world. I've heard  it said 
There is no such thing as an ordinary chondrite and that applies to all
rocks from space.


NORTON O.R. (2001) Ugly Ducklings of the desert
(Meteorite Mag., August 2001, Vol. 7-3, pp. 22-23):

None of the meteorites had fusion crusts. Most were severely fractured, some 
broken
in pieces along fracture lines allowing for the entrance of terrestrial 
contaminants. The
interiors were stained brown from iron oxide. But I kept telling myself that it 
didn't
matter their condition. These ugly ducklings are, after all, real 
meteorites...Off they
went to the thin section maker. When they returned and I had my first look at 
their
interiors my Ho hum, just another Sahara OC attitude changed.  Like the story 
of the
ugly duckling, within the few months of grinding and polishing, a 
transfiguration had
taken place. These ordinary chondrites were every bit as beautiful and 
exciting as
any chondrites I have examined through the years. I was moved by the fact that 
I was
the first to peer into the interiors of these asteroid chps. Wonderful 
discoveries abound
in these sections. The textural variations are so great that the explorer is 
guaranteed
to see structures never before seen by anyone. Herein lies the beauty of these 
ugly
ducklings.


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[meteorite-list] NWA's

2008-01-12 Thread Peter A Shugar

Bob and the list,

The need for NWA's is because the North West Africa as well as other 
areas provide a lot of the meteorites that we can then analize, giving rise to

the various classifications.
Not only that,  but small NWA's make good giveaways for school children
and adults.
I've gotten one almost 1 kilo NWA from Dean, which I plan to get classified,
hoping for an unpaired meteorite so that I can get a main mass.
Who knows, maybe the NWA will turn out to be an exotic lunar or martian
or even discover that you have a piece of Mercury or an astoroid.
NWA's are very useful.
Pete
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[meteorite-list] AD: NEW UNCLASSIFIED NWA SALE

2008-01-12 Thread dean bessey
After the stunning success of yesterdays NWA sale
where I sold every single stone (Mostly twice and some
got replaced 3 times and sold again) I just had to get
a new sale going today. 
See here:
http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/ws-sale13.html
20% discount today before I link this to my main
website
Sincerely
DEAN
http://www.meteoriteshop.com


  

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Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.  
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[meteorite-list] Interesting Inclusion

2008-01-12 Thread Gary K. Foote
Discovered this poking out of an unclassified NWA.  What does it look like to 
you?  Is it a 
chondrule or something else?

http://www.webbers.com/meteorites/images/interestinginclusion.jpg

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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA's

2008-01-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:55:31 -0600, you wrote:

areas provide a lot of the meteorites that we can then analize, giving rise to

...

or even discover that you have a piece of Mercury or an astoroid.

Or maybe even Uranus.
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[meteorite-list] AD: nice thimbeprinted meterite and a breccia

2008-01-12 Thread habibi abdelaziz
hello list members;

i get this 903 gr thimberprinted chondrite , 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/sets/72157603690033934/

and this 1560 gr  very pretty impact melt breccia.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/sets/72157603697623442/

enjoy
thanks
aziz
 
habibi aziz 
box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco 
phone. 21235576145 
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Re: [meteorite-list] 'The high-pitched scream'?

2008-01-12 Thread lebofsky
Hi all:

I just saw a movie on TV the other night. I was at the American
Astronomical Society meeting and could not sleep, turned on the TV and
there was a movie about meteorites. In it, on a number of occations, you
could hear the sound of the incoming meteorite before the hit the ground
and exploded.

The movie was Meteorite! with Tom Wopat (Luke Duke). I know this is fact
because a few weeks ago when I was preparing for a presentation on meteor
showers, I found on the Web (so it must be true) two video clips: one from
'Armageddon and one from Smallville (where Superman grew up) and they
both had screaming incoming meteors.

Sorry, but along the lines of what Sterling said, there is some much bad
science in these movies it has you screaming from the room in horror!

Larry

On Sat, January 12, 2008 12:20 pm, Sterling K. Webb wrote:
 Hi, Mark,


 That high-pitched scream you hear
 as the one kilometer impactor drops on the planet is not coming from the
 impactor -- it's coming from us! My research indicates about half the
 human population emits a high-pitched scream while the other half creates
 a strong low-frequency rumble that sounds alot like Oh, Sh!



 Sterling K. Webb
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 Subject: [meteorite-list] The high-pitched scream?



 Hi folks,


 On another forum someone posted about a recent TV programme he'd watched
 about NEOs.  At the end the guest astronomer said something to the effect
 that the first we know about an incoming impactor could be the
 high-pitched scream as it speeds through the atmosphere.

 It got me wondering; a sizeable body would be travelling at cosmic (ie
 very supersonic) velocity right through to impact, and therefore the
 scream should trail behind the object - in other words, we wouldn't
 even get that much warning.

 Was the speaker using poetic license or would there be any kind of
 fore-shock?

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Re: [meteorite-list] CM Cubes (AD)

2008-01-12 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi All,
Wanted everyone to know I will be selling the high end anodized
aluminum CM cubes with the enamel lettering that Drake makes at
the Tucson Show. Usually, they are $25 + Shipping. I will have them for $22
cash or $25 credit Card purchase. I will have them with me so you can
Take immediate delivery at the show.
I already had a nice plastic one, but when I saw and held his, I
knew I was screwed and HAD to have one. They are precision made and
You can FEEL the quality as well as see it.

Also:

I am busting my hump trying to get the Auction catalog up this
Week end with all the stuff that has come in so far.

Best wishes, Michael


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[meteorite-list] AD: ebay auctions ending

2008-01-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi List,

Happy New Year first of all.

I have 15 ebay auctions ending in about 18 hours.
If you like please take a look at them.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmeteoriten


Or you can also look at them through my webpage:

http://www.m3t3orites.com/ebay.php

Thank you for your time.
Regards
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Re: [meteorite-list] The high-pitched scream?

2008-01-12 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Hi Mark,

It would seem that it is possible but not in the ordinary sense. This could
only happen when Electrophonic Sound was produced from the incoming object.
It only occurs with large meteors but I'm thinking your scenario would be
BIG enough! ;-)

Electrophonic sounds are defined as sounds produced by direct conversion of
electromagnetic radiation into audible sound.

This is done through extremely complex mechanisms, some of which are still
debated as the theory of electronic sound is relatively new in the last
couple of decades. Basically, the sounds will be heard concurrently with the
meteor as the very low frequency radiation travels at the speed of light.
It's thought that this energy is so intense that it causes objects on the
ground to vibrate which is the sound you hear... not necessarily the
'meteor' itself.

Cheers,

Jeff


- Original Message -
From: Mark Crawford
To: Meteorite List
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:34 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] The high-pitched scream?


Hi folks,

On another forum someone posted about a recent TV programme he'd watched
about NEOs.  At the end the guest astronomer said something to the
effect that the first we know about an incoming impactor could be the
high-pitched scream as it speeds through the atmosphere.

It got me wondering; a sizeable body would be travelling at cosmic (ie
very supersonic) velocity right through to impact, and therefore the
scream should trail behind the object - in other words, we wouldn't
even get that much warning.

Was the speaker using poetic license or would there be any kind of
fore-shock?

Mark

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[meteorite-list] Hollywood's getting in on the act

2008-01-12 Thread Jerry

10,000 BC opens 03/07/08 AD. Were any of you asked to consult?
Jerry Flaherty
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[meteorite-list] AD Mali IMB

2008-01-12 Thread Andreas Gren
Hi List,

even so many interesting ADs has been posted today, I try my luck and would
like
to announce full slices and end-cuts from Mali IMB ( impact melt breccia)

small crump end cuts of this breathtaking IMB has been sold on ebay for
10-15 $/g the last weeks. Here I offer full slices  at 8 $/g and crusted
endcuts at 6$/g . The slices (and endcuts) are not grinded, for two reasons,
first ,they are fragile, second ,it would reduce the contrast between the
light Chondritic areas and the dark melt. 
So it might be possible you will find small sawing marks on the specimens.

If you more like complete specimens with the strange IMB lithologi, even
visible at the surface, I have put a link at the end of this mail to a
running ebay auction. I will for sure not cut this beauty ,I think it's
more
for a sophisticated collection, than for slicing up. Anyway, if you are able
to butcher this beauty, uhuhuaa bad boy !, you should be able to double your
investion in a view weeks.

Thanks for looking
Andi

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_11.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_12.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_21.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_23.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_31.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_33.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_41.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_42.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_51.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_52.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_61.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_62.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_71.jpg 
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_72.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_81.jpg 
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_82.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_91.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_92.jpg


the link to the complete IMB specimen listed on e bay:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=180204079664ssPageNa
me=STRK:MESE:IT

If you look at other ads from this seller you will find a very reasonable
priced end cut of pure melt, no light condritical material is left in this
high shocked specimen, also a rarity of this complex meteorite fall

Thanks for looking.
Andi

P.S.
If you are a Tucson visitor, I'm able to offer free shipping, just meet me
at the Ramada , nearer information ( where and when)will be given to every
buyer who is interested in this opportunity, all other interested in buying
please ad 5 bucks for shipping world wide.

P.P.S.
Its in the middle of the night here in Europe, so please don't expect
promptly answer, first come first serve.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Unclassified NWAs: What's the attraction?

2008-01-12 Thread Jerry

You gota love em all
Jerry Flaherty
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Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:56 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Unclassified NWAs: What's the attraction?



Tom wrote:

WOW! I can't remain silent.  MOST of us are interested in the  rocks, you
know the material that came from out of this world. I've heard  it said 
There is no such thing as an ordinary chondrite and that applies to all
rocks from space.


NORTON O.R. (2001) Ugly Ducklings of the desert
(Meteorite Mag., August 2001, Vol. 7-3, pp. 22-23):

None of the meteorites had fusion crusts. Most were severely fractured, 
some broken
in pieces along fracture lines allowing for the entrance of terrestrial 
contaminants. The
interiors were stained brown from iron oxide. But I kept telling myself 
that it didn't
matter their condition. These ugly ducklings are, after all, real 
meteorites...Off they
went to the thin section maker. When they returned and I had my first look 
at their
interiors my Ho hum, just another Sahara OC attitude changed.  Like the 
story of the
ugly duckling, within the few months of grinding and polishing, a 
transfiguration had
taken place. These ordinary chondrites were every bit as beautiful and 
exciting as
any chondrites I have examined through the years. I was moved by the fact 
that I was
the first to peer into the interiors of these asteroid chps. Wonderful 
discoveries abound
in these sections. The textural variations are so great that the explorer 
is guaranteed
to see structures never before seen by anyone. Herein lies the beauty of 
these ugly

ducklings.


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Re: [meteorite-list] The high-pitched scream?

2008-01-12 Thread Jerry

HA HA HA HA but right!
Jerry Flaherty
- Original Message - 
From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mark Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The high-pitched scream?



Hi, Mark,

   That high-pitched scream you hear
as the one kilometer impactor drops on the
planet is not coming from the impactor -- 
it's coming from us!

   My research indicates about half the
human population emits a high-pitched
scream while the other half creates a strong
low-frequency rumble that sounds alot like
Oh, Sh!


Sterling K. Webb
---
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 9:34 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] The high-pitched scream?


Hi folks,

On another forum someone posted about a recent TV programme he'd watched
about NEOs.  At the end the guest astronomer said something to the
effect that the first we know about an incoming impactor could be the
high-pitched scream as it speeds through the atmosphere.

It got me wondering; a sizeable body would be travelling at cosmic (ie
very supersonic) velocity right through to impact, and therefore the
scream should trail behind the object - in other words, we wouldn't
even get that much warning.

Was the speaker using poetic license or would there be any kind of
fore-shock?

Mark

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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA's

2008-01-12 Thread Jerry

Whose??
Jerry Flaherty
- Original Message - 
From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA's



On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:55:31 -0600, you wrote:

areas provide a lot of the meteorites that we can then analize, giving 
rise to


...


or even discover that you have a piece of Mercury or an astoroid.


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[meteorite-list] AD Mali IMB/ Mike Bandli

2008-01-12 Thread Andreas Gren
Sorry List for using this for private massage,
But I'm still blocked to all comcast.net addresses, perhaps one of the more
computer nowing people could explain it to me , or even better let me know
how to stop this ban.

Mike Bandli, the ordered slice is on hold for you, I can read your mails,
but I'm not able to answer, perhaps you are able to provide an alternative e
mai adress?

Thanks Mike,
Sorry List

Andi


Hi List,

even so many interesting ADs has been posted today, I try my luck and would
like
to announce full slices and end-cuts from Mali IMB ( impact melt breccia)

small crump end cuts of this breathtaking IMB has been sold on ebay for
10-15 $/g the last weeks. Here I offer full slices  at 8 $/g and crusted
endcuts at 6$/g . The slices (and endcuts) are not grinded, for two reasons,
first ,they are fragile, second ,it would reduce the contrast between the
light Chondritic areas and the dark melt. 
So it might be possible you will find small sawing marks on the specimens.

If you more like complete specimens with the strange IMB lithologi, even
visible at the surface, I have put a link at the end of this mail to a
running ebay auction. I will for sure not cut this beauty ,I think it's
more
for a sophisticated collection, than for slicing up. Anyway, if you are able
to butcher this beauty, uhuhuaa bad boy !, you should be able to double your
investion in a view weeks.

Thanks for looking
Andi

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_11.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_12.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_21.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_23.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_31.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_33.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_41.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_42.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_51.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_52.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_61.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_62.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_71.jpg 
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_72.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_81.jpg 
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_82.jpg

www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_91.jpg
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mali_92.jpg


the link to the complete IMB specimen listed on e bay:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=180204079664ssPageNa
me=STRK:MESE:IT

If you look at other ads from this seller you will find a very reasonable
priced end cut of pure melt, no light condritical material is left in this
high shocked specimen, also a rarity of this complex meteorite fall

Thanks for looking.
Andi

P.S.
If you are a Tucson visitor, I'm able to offer free shipping, just meet me
at the Ramada , nearer information ( where and when)will be given to every
buyer who is interested in this opportunity, all other interested in buying
please ad 5 bucks for shipping world wide.

P.P.S.
Its in the middle of the night here in Europe, so please don't expect
promptly answer, first come first serve.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Auction ad

2008-01-12 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi All,
Bad new is my Dreamweaver program suddenly went BLANK and I cannot
Upload ANYTHING at this time - and who knows when.
The good news is the first part of the Auction Catalog is (with much
More stuff already in. but not posted) up in a very incomplete way - but
At least you can see SOME of the goodies.
Go to:

http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/TucsonAuction08.html

Best wishes, Michael





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Re: [meteorite-list] Auction ad

2008-01-12 Thread Floyd Griff Griffith

Michael,

Nice job on the auction website. That's a bunch of work.

Best to you,
Griff

Parker, Colorado


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Hi All,
   Bad new is my Dreamweaver program suddenly went BLANK and I cannot
Upload ANYTHING at this time - and who knows when.
   The good news is the first part of the Auction Catalog is (with 
much

More stuff already in. but not posted) up in a very incomplete way - but
At least you can see SOME of the goodies.
   Go to:

http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/TucsonAuction08.html

   Best wishes, Michael





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[meteorite-list] Awsome rock from Mars

2008-01-12 Thread Darren Garrison
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