Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorites selling for peanuts
It's true that for those prices you need to lay out some money. Sent from my iPad On May 30, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi Dennis, From what I hear if you have $50,000 to spend you can buy cheap lunar meteorites. The retail prices that I have seen are $300 to $250 per gram. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Apollo via Meteorite-list Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:31 AM To: Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorites selling for peanuts Good morning, I guess that I haven't been following the market as closely as I should have...but if any dealers have nice Martian or lunar specimens for sale at prices anywhere near what the recent posts have mentioned, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks, Dennis Sent from my iPhone On May 30, 2015, at 6:41 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: It is true that rare things will always be rare and will be priced accordingly, and for that reason you may be entirely right Michael that it can be simply supply and demand. Personally though, I think supply and demand is too simple a concept for collectible items. What I mean is, I wonder how much of this shift in price might be due to the recent strength of the dollar? In case someone is not following: An example of this is what is happening in the antique Japanese sword market. The value of the yen relative to the dollar is 120 to 1 currently. Which is different than it was about a year ago when the dollar was weaker, and the value was perhaps 100 to 1. Japanese swords in Japan that were selling for 100,000 yen last year (1000 dollars) are not currently worth 120,000 yen in Japan. They are still only worth 100,000 yen. In other words, the value of a sword does not go up simply because a foreign currency became stronger. However, because the dollar is stronger now, you can get a better sword out of Japan for the same price in dollars as you would have paid for a lesser sword last year. In other words, 1000 dollars today (120,000 yen) buys you a more valuable sword than it did last year simply because the dollar got stronger. Now consider a sword that an American sword merchant/collector bought from Japan last year for 1000 dollars (100,000 yen) and is now here in America. It is still worth 1000 dollars here, but now that you can buy a 120,000 yen sword for 1000 dollars, (and those swords are plenty available in Japan) why would someone buy a sword valued at 100,000 yen for 1000 dollars here in America, when they can get a better sword (valued at 120,000 yen) from Japan for the same 1000 dollars? This same type of scenario can be true in for rare books, meteorites etc. etc. If, for example, Mike Meteorite Merchant bought a 10,000 dollar 1000g Lunar mass from Morocco last year when the dollar was weaker, now that the dollar is stronger the same 1000g Lunar mass might only cost 8,000 dollars from a merchant in Morocco. That devalues Mike's meteorite. If he wants to sell bits and pieces of it, he has to sell it for similar value as what the newer cheaper specimens are selling for. Can I say for sur __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A crowdfunding campaign is trying to save us from life-threatening asteroids
Adam, somebody has to pay the $350 billion we've pissed away on the new F35 fighter jet, you know, the one that doesn't work but has made plenty of congressmen and their contractors very rich. Someone has to pay for out endless overseas war adventures, may as well be you. Sent from my iPad On May 18, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net wrote: You are not even free to collect more than 10 lbs of meteorites on public land anymore. Public roads (BLM Controlled) are being closed to the public at an alarming rate. What good is public land if you are not even allowed to use it? Crappy healthcare insurance at twice the cost is not my idea of freedom of choice, more like socialism. I was forced to sign up my wife on a Anthem plan because of the Affordable Healthcare Act? just to have our account hacked three days latter compromising all of our personal data. All we got was an apology letter from the healthcare exchange and a free service contract for two years to ProtectMyID.com. Then there is a thing called freedom of speech and privacy, both consistently disappearing the last few years. I forgot to mention the ridiculous tax increases which inhibits freedom by making people work twice as hard for less income. Freedom isn't for free! Mike, you are consistently out of touch with reality! Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A crowdfunding campaign is trying to save us from life-threatening asteroids What chaos? I must have missed it. I'm free. I just drove all over the country with no problems. I was able to eat, drink and be merry. I got on a plane and flew to China. Name one freedom that has been removed from you. The statement Adam, belongs on some Cliven Bundy conspiracy website, not the meteorite list. Sent from my iPad On May 18, 2015, at 4:58 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: You are correct. The U.S. has been in complete chaos since 2008 and now the rest of the world is soon to follow! It is time to focus on what is really important, freedom! Adam - Original Message - From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 1:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] A crowdfunding campaign is trying to save us from life-threatening asteroids Hello Listers I think we need to work on the human race before we worry about asteroids Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com A crowdfunding campaign is trying to save us from life-threatening asteroids If a huge asteroid slammed into the Earth with crushing force tomorrow, it could swiftly bring an end to all humankind. Luckily, that's not going to happen – our asteroid analysis and predictive techniques are advanced enough to tell when a devastating impact might happen in the near future. But that's not to say an asteroid like the one that wiped out the dinosaurs 65m years couldn’t come hurtling towards us during our life times. These super-impacts happen extremely rarely, so generally everyone's fairly chilled out about it. The smaller ones, on the other hand, are much more frequent – asteroids with diameters of 20m or over come within close vicinity of the Earth once every 25 years , yet we have failed to invest in the infrastructure required to spot them before they arrive. Recognising this dearth of ways to protect ourselves from asteroid attacks, researchers at Iowa State University’s Asteroid Deflection Research Center have launched a crowd-sourcing campaign to raise funds for a new kind of defence system. Called the Emergency Asteroid Defence Project (EADP), the hope is to build a machine capable of identifying and deflecting incoming objects at very short notice. The Hypervelocity Asteroid Intercept Vehicle (HAIV) would be made of two parts, working together to kick the asteroid in the opposite direction to Earth and then obliterate it into lots of harmless pieces in space. But in order to get the project under way, the researchers must raise $200,000 (£127,000) through their campaign on Indiegogo. This will go towards designing the blueprints for the vehicle and establishing how it will be built. As an incentive, funders are being offered gifts such as astronaut ice cream and a private dinner with the head of the team. source: https://email22.secureserver.net/webmail.php?login=1 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http
Re: [meteorite-list] A crowdfunding campaign is trying to save us from life-threatening asteroids
What chaos? I must have missed it. I'm free. I just drove all over the country with no problems. I was able to eat, drink and be merry. I got on a plane and flew to China. Name one freedom that has been removed from you. The statement Adam, belongs on some Cliven Bundy conspiracy website, not the meteorite list. Sent from my iPad On May 18, 2015, at 4:58 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: You are correct. The U.S. has been in complete chaos since 2008 and now the rest of the world is soon to follow! It is time to focus on what is really important, freedom! Adam - Original Message - From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 1:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] A crowdfunding campaign is trying to save us from life-threatening asteroids Hello Listers I think we need to work on the human race before we worry about asteroids Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com A crowdfunding campaign is trying to save us from life-threatening asteroids If a huge asteroid slammed into the Earth with crushing force tomorrow, it could swiftly bring an end to all humankind. Luckily, that's not going to happen – our asteroid analysis and predictive techniques are advanced enough to tell when a devastating impact might happen in the near future. But that's not to say an asteroid like the one that wiped out the dinosaurs 65m years couldn’t come hurtling towards us during our life times. These super-impacts happen extremely rarely, so generally everyone's fairly chilled out about it. The smaller ones, on the other hand, are much more frequent – asteroids with diameters of 20m or over come within close vicinity of the Earth once every 25 years , yet we have failed to invest in the infrastructure required to spot them before they arrive. Recognising this dearth of ways to protect ourselves from asteroid attacks, researchers at Iowa State University’s Asteroid Deflection Research Center have launched a crowd-sourcing campaign to raise funds for a new kind of defence system. Called the Emergency Asteroid Defence Project (EADP), the hope is to build a machine capable of identifying and deflecting incoming objects at very short notice. The Hypervelocity Asteroid Intercept Vehicle (HAIV) would be made of two parts, working together to kick the asteroid in the opposite direction to Earth and then obliterate it into lots of harmless pieces in space. But in order to get the project under way, the researchers must raise $200,000 (£127,000) through their campaign on Indiegogo. This will go towards designing the blueprints for the vehicle and establishing how it will be built. As an incentive, funders are being offered gifts such as astronaut ice cream and a private dinner with the head of the team. source: https://email22.secureserver.net/webmail.php?login=1 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A crowdfunding campaign is trying to save us from life-threatening asteroids
But Adam, every email you write is littered with politics. Laughin Marina is about 29 boats, so the fire shouldn't last long. Michael Farmer On May 18, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I do not have much time to debate, a plane just crashed next to the Laughlin Marina and the whole area is up in flames. My friends, who live at the marina and the caretaker, called me over an hour ago and told me that my enclosed car hauler is in danger of burning up since I store it there. It is full of expensive expedition gear so I tried to drive down there only to be turned away since the entire area is being evacuated. There are over 30 fire trucks on the scene when I left a few minutes ago and the fire is still nowhere under control. All the roads are blocked so I will not be able to evaluate the damage until tomorrow if they get the fire put out. One another note, I just assume not pay for all the free handouts to people who do not need them and are able to work. I still believe that hard work, equal opportunity and private entrepreneurship will overcome poverty, not wasteful government spending. You were correct in your first statement that the List is no place for politics. Now back to more pressing concerns, Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A crowdfunding campaign is trying to save us from life-threatening asteroids Adam, somebody has to pay the $350 billion we've pissed away on the new F35 fighter jet, you know, the one that doesn't work but has made plenty of congressmen and their contractors very rich. Someone has to pay for out endless overseas war adventures, may as well be you. Sent from my iPad On May 18, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net wrote: You are not even free to collect more than 10 lbs of meteorites on public land anymore. Public roads (BLM Controlled) are being closed to the public at an alarming rate. What good is public land if you are not even allowed to use it? Crappy healthcare insurance at twice the cost is not my idea of freedom of choice, more like socialism. I was forced to sign up my wife on a Anthem plan because of the Affordable Healthcare Act? just to have our account hacked three days latter compromising all of our personal data. All we got was an apology letter from the healthcare exchange and a free service contract for two years to ProtectMyID.com. Then there is a thing called freedom of speech and privacy, both consistently disappearing the last few years. I forgot to mention the ridiculous tax increases which inhibits freedom by making people work twice as hard for less income. Freedom isn't for free! Mike, you are consistently out of touch with reality! Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A crowdfunding campaign is trying to save us from life-threatening asteroids What chaos? I must have missed it. I'm free. I just drove all over the country with no problems. I was able to eat, drink and be merry. I got on a plane and flew to China. Name one freedom that has been removed from you. The statement Adam, belongs on some Cliven Bundy conspiracy website, not the meteorite list. Sent from my iPad On May 18, 2015, at 4:58 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: You are correct. The U.S. has been in complete chaos since 2008 and now the rest of the world is soon to follow! It is time to focus on what is really important, freedom! Adam - Original Message - From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 1:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] A crowdfunding campaign is trying to save us from life-threatening asteroids Hello Listers I think we need to work on the human race before we worry about asteroids Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com A crowdfunding campaign is trying to save us from life-threatening asteroids If a huge asteroid slammed into the Earth with crushing force tomorrow, it could swiftly bring an end to all humankind. Luckily, that's not going to happen – our asteroid analysis and predictive techniques are advanced enough to tell when a devastating impact might happen in the near future. But that's not to say an asteroid like the one that wiped out
Re: [meteorite-list] Awfully quiet
In my opinion the list is dying because 90% of what people post never makes it. Most of my emails are blocked, never to appear. Why? I have no clue. Most others tell me the same thing. I just post on Facebook and sell my things in minutes. Much easier. Why? I don't know. Sad to see, the list was once a great place where information and stories were shared. Mostly now just an eBay add site. Michael Sent from my iPad On Apr 30, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi Anne, List, I for one am sad to see the decline in list activity. I've been on here for many years and I miss the multiple, daily posts that we used to get. It was such an active, fun, educational, and entertaining place! (sometimes a little mean, too) I joined facebook some time ago so as not to feel as out dated as I actually am : ) and to keep up with the times. Unfortunately for me, I don't seem to get the joy from facebook that the met list of old gave me. I have barely said 2 words on facebook. I really can't put my finger on what the disconnect is, but it's there. Perhaps it's the snippets of info instead of more details, maybe it's the hundreds of people that want to be my 'friend' that I've never heard of. Maybe I feel like it's going to be to much of a commitment once I dive in? On top of all this is the privacy issue, real or imagined. The future is knocking and I know it's only a matter of time before I have to give in to change so as not to go socially extinct! Sincerely, Larry Atkins IMCA # 1941 Ebay alienrockfarm -Original Message- From: Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: graham.ensor graham.en...@gmail.com; majbaermann majbaerm...@web.de Cc: bernd.pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; msgmeteorites msgmeteori...@gmail.com Sent: Thu, Apr 30, 2015 7:15 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Awfully quiet I certainly agree with you, David, Matthias.I don't like Facebook and theirprivacy policies, or lack of. It makes the Government agencies look like rankamateurs when it comes to watching what we are all doing.However I certainlyunderstand what Graham is saying when he writes had to venture into using itfor marketing other aspects etc... just no choice if you want to keep up withthings.And there are times when I wonder if I will not be obligated to join itjust and only for business purposes. That would be a very bitter pill toswallow!!!Anyway we can all band together, protect our privacy, and keep theList going??Any comments? anybody? Anne m.blackwww.impactika.comimpact...@aol.com-Original Message-From:Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.comTo: Matthias Bärmannmajbaerm...@web.deCc: Anne Black impact...@aol.com; Martin Goffmsgmeteori...@gmail.com; Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net; Bernd V. Paulibernd.pa...@paulinet.de; meteorite listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Wed, Apr 29, 2015 5:12 pmSubject:Re: [meteorite-list] Awfully quietI always said I would not venture intoFacebook but unfortunately itis whereall the action is and is so easy to use,post pictures to,share info, personalmessage and find new material...see earlynewfinds and acquire excitingsamples...Also had to venture into using itformarketing other aspectsetc...just no choice if you want to keepup withthings.You do need to keepit in check with privacy settings and try nottolet it take over your lifethough.GrahamOn Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:47 PM,MatthiasBärmannmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I agree, Anne.And Iask myself emphatically: why the hell sell my soul (whatever thatmight be)for free? Something rhymes ... Best, Matthias Am29.04.2015 um22:26 schrieb Anne Black via Meteorite-list: I'll have toagree withGreg. The French Forum is rather quiet too, except for our NamethatMeteorite game. Certainly Social Media Overload. Therearestill people talking but there is nothing really new to talk about, nonewFall, no new discoveries. So a bit of peace and quiet. AnneM.Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com-OriginalMessage- From: Martin Goff viaMeteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: GregHupégmh...@centurylink.net Cc: Bernd V. Paulibernd.pa...@paulinet.de;meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Apr 29,2015 2:15 pmSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Awfully quiet HiBernd, Tracy, all.Most of my meteorite related chat now occurs viaFacebook and this is whati observe from many others too. Numerouspeople within our meteoritecommunity who were regular posters here onthe metlist i now see postingdaily in the various facebook groups andforums. I know it's not foreveryone but i for one would certainly feelas if i was missing out on thelatest meteorite news and chat if I werenot on Facebook. I have donequite a few posts over the
Re: [meteorite-list] Awfully quiet
I still don't understand. I use an IPhone and iPad for 100% of my emails these days. Some posts make it, mostly only replies to others. How do I change this on an IPhone? Would love to interact more but gave up. Michael Farmer On Apr 30, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Art Jones art.jo...@iscs.com wrote: Hi Mike/List; It's actually simple to assure that your posts will show up: don’t use rich formatting in your emails. 99% of the time an email doesn’t make it is due to the formatting. I chose to block rich text and HTML as a means of decreasing the possibility of virus transmission. see policy #7 [7. Send emails in text format, not HTML or Rich Text (these will be bounced)] Happy Hunting, -Art -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:06 AM To: Larry Atkins Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; impact...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Awfully quiet In my opinion the list is dying because 90% of what people post never makes it. Most of my emails are blocked, never to appear. Why? I have no clue. Most others tell me the same thing. I just post on Facebook and sell my things in minutes. Much easier. Why? I don't know. Sad to see, the list was once a great place where information and stories were shared. Mostly now just an eBay add site. Michael Sent from my iPad On Apr 30, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi Anne, List, I for one am sad to see the decline in list activity. I've been on here for many years and I miss the multiple, daily posts that we used to get. It was such an active, fun, educational, and entertaining place! (sometimes a little mean, too) I joined facebook some time ago so as not to feel as out dated as I actually am : ) and to keep up with the times. Unfortunately for me, I don't seem to get the joy from facebook that the met list of old gave me. I have barely said 2 words on facebook. I really can't put my finger on what the disconnect is, but it's there. Perhaps it's the snippets of info instead of more details, maybe it's the hundreds of people that want to be my 'friend' that I've never heard of. Maybe I feel like it's going to be to much of a commitment once I dive in? On top of all this is the privacy issue, real or imagined. The future is knocking and I know it's only a matter of time before I have to give in to change so as not to go socially extinct! Sincerely, Larry Atkins IMCA # 1941 Ebay alienrockfarm -Original Message- From: Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: graham.ensor graham.en...@gmail.com; majbaermann majbaerm...@web.de Cc: bernd.pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; msgmeteorites msgmeteori...@gmail.com Sent: Thu, Apr 30, 2015 7:15 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Awfully quiet I certainly agree with you, David, Matthias.I don't like Facebook and theirprivacy policies, or lack of. It makes the Government agencies look like rankamateurs when it comes to watching what we are all doing.However I certainlyunderstand what Graham is saying when he writes had to venture into using itfor marketing other aspects etc... just no choice if you want to keep up withthings.And there are times when I wonder if I will not be obligated to join itjust and only for business purposes. That would be a very bitter pill toswallow!!!Anyway we can all band together, protect our privacy, and keep theList going??Any comments? anybody? Anne m.blackwww.impactika.comimpact...@aol.com-Original Message-From:Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.comTo: Matthias Bärmannmajbaerm...@web.deCc: Anne Black impact...@aol.com; Martin Goffmsgmeteori...@gmail.com; Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net; Bernd V. Paulibernd.pa...@paulinet.de; meteorite listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Wed, Apr 29, 2015 5:12 pmSubject:Re: [meteorite-list] Awfully quietI always said I would not venture intoFacebook but unfortunately itis whereall the action is and is so easy to use,post pictures to,share info, personalmessage and find new material...see earlynewfinds and acquire excitingsamples...Also had to venture into using itformarketing other aspectsetc...just no choice if you want to keepup withthings.You do need to keepit in check with privacy settings and try nottolet it take over your lifethough.GrahamOn Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:47 PM,MatthiasBärmannmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I agree, Anne.And Iask myself emphatically: why the hell sell my soul (whatever thatmight be)for free? Something rhymes ... Best, Matthias Am29.04.2015 um22:26 schrieb Anne Black via Meteorite-list: I'll have toagree withGreg. The French Forum is rather quiet too
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I don't understand what the fear of Facebook is. They only have what you give them. I am not sure why it is scary that they keep track of your eBay sales offers or cat photos. Not too scary to me. Michael Farmer On Apr 29, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I certainly agree with you, David, Matthias. I don't like Facebook and their privacy policies, or lack of. It makes the Government agencies look like rank amateurs when it comes to watching what we are all doing. However I certainly understand what Graham is saying when he writes had to venture into using it for marketing other aspects etc... just no choice if you want to keep up with things. And there are times when I wonder if I will not be obligated to join it just and only for business purposes. That would be a very bitter pill to swallow!!! Anyway we can all band together, protect our privacy, and keep the List going?? Any comments? anybody? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com To: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Cc: Anne Black impact...@aol.com; Martin Goff msgmeteori...@gmail.com; Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net; Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de; meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2015 5:12 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Awfully quiet I always said I would not venture into Facebook but unfortunately it is where all the action is and is so easy to use, post pictures to, share info, personal message and find new material...see early new finds and acquire exciting samples...Also had to venture into using it for marketing other aspects etc...just no choice if you want to keep up with things. You do need to keep it in check with privacy settings and try not to let it take over your life though. Graham On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Matthias Bärmann meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I agree, Anne. And I ask myself emphatically: why the hell sell my soul (whatever that might be) for free? Something rhymes ... Best, Matthias Am 29.04.2015 um 22:26 schrieb Anne Black via Meteorite-list: I'll have to agree with Greg. The French Forum is rather quiet too, except for our Name that Meteorite game. Certainly Social Media Overload. There are still people talking but there is nothing really new to talk about, no new Fall, no new discoveries. So a bit of peace and quiet. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Martin Goff via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net Cc: Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2015 2:15 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Awfully quiet Hi Bernd, Tracy, all. Most of my meteorite related chat now occurs via Facebook and this is what i observe from many others too. Numerous people within our meteorite community who were regular posters here on the metlist i now see posting daily in the various facebook groups and forums. I know it's not for everyone but i for one would certainly feel as if i was missing out on the latest meteorite news and chat if I were not on Facebook. I have done quite a few posts over the last year where i have submitted the same post via various different forums and plarforms to try and see which generated the most conversation and i have to say Facebook won by huge margins every single time. Hope to see you on there maybe Bernd? Your experience and knowledge would be hugely beneficial to everyone there :-) Kind regards Martin On 29 April 2015 at 21:02, Greg Hupé meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Bernd and All, Maybe 'Social Media Overload'? I have been talking with several friends over the last few months about the dramatic slowdown [from last two years] which has many contributing factors, none of which is purely; MetList Forum, Facebook, Twitter or any of the other outlets of info... almost a 'Quiet Before the Storm' effect. It may be an indication of 'The Market' and/or 'Supply Demand' which has been very tough since 2008 and even more since one year ago in 'my' experience and dealings. I should look up at the sky and see if the birds are heading in an odd direction for this time of year... Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions
Re: [meteorite-list] Oman Meteorite
First step would be who you got it from? Who was the finder? Michael Farmer On Apr 16, 2015, at 7:15 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello All, Does anyone know where I may find info on a Oman meteorite known (to me) as P-1-28 ? It is supposed to be a Ureilite Thanks, John __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Did I Capture Bolide During SpaceX Launch?
Sure looks like a very nice meteor breaking apart! Michael Farmer On Apr 15, 2015, at 10:37 PM, Greg Hup� via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello All, A friend of ours, Eric Bowker, noticed that in my recent video of the SpaceX launch of the CRS-6 ISS resupply mission that I may have inadvertently videotaped a bolide at time of launch! See my video on YouTube at 1:10 lower right and let me know what you think... Looks like a bolide to me... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYSX2pUqmHg Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or Terrorism Concerns
I used to frequent a cafe in Marrakech when I was traveling to morocco every two weeks. That date was bombed a few years and several tourists died. I spent some time at the mall in Kenya that was attacked and nearly 100 people were killed in last year. It is eery knowing that these places where you have been many times are now gone or horrible things happened there. The Islamic countries are on fire. The insane jihadist people are on the loose. I'll pass on these crapholes until the lunatics are gone. Michael Farmer On Mar 23, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: The entire world appears to be in chaos and international relationships are at the worst since World War II but I would still feel safe gong to Morocco. Adam - Original Message - From: Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: j...@meteoriteusa.com; meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or Terrorism Concerns Yes, but... Tunisia is one country I would have felt perfectly safe going back to. The Bardo Museum is one of the top museums for archaeology and mosaics. And look what happened. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: J Sinclair via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 6:38 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or Terrorism Concerns Mike, Morocco is where the concentration of the meteorite trading with our Country, the US, is taking place. There are many Moroccans that visit this country to sell at the two biggest gem, mineral and fossil shows here, Tucson and Denver. They have been coming for years, long before the large increase in the number of meteorites that are being found in the Sahara. With a passport and visa, there is free travel between our country and theirs. There are a lot of Americans that travel there. The country's abundance of minerals, fossils and meteorites make it a popular place for people that have an interest in natural history to travel to. A quick look at the list from the State Department doesn't list Morocco as a country with travel warnings. http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings.html In fact, the Meteoritical Society held its annual meeting in Casablanca just six months ago. It was attended by scientists and meteorite enthusiasts from around the world. Desert borders can be blurry though. Americans haven't been safe along some of those borders for decades. Is Morocco a place you would be afraid to go to? Morocco shouldn't be grouped with the countries that have travel warnings just because Morocco is on the same continent with them and because of theories about social tolerance and the opinion of it being a good place to strike Western interests. There are many places that fit that criteria. The US State Department does warn us about travel to Mexico, the Ukraine, Iraq, Haiti, Honduras, Columbia and many other places including some that you mention. Morocco isn't one of them. Terrorist events over the last few decades have shown us that we may not be safe in places like Boston, New York, Oklahoma City, Paris and many others. Traveling anywhere including just down the street isn't as safe as it used to be. Morocco is one place I would feel comfortable traveling to. Paris and Boston too. Best regards, John On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi List, Let me preface this - I do not want this to get political and I want to stick to how this situation impacts the meteorite world. I do not want to engage or ignite a discussion about religion or politics. I have been reading stories on the news wires about the operation of terrorist cells and training camps in the remotest regions of the Saharan Desert. It is no surprise that parts of Egypt, Libya, Algeria, and Mali are used as havens or hideouts for terrorists - these countries have had widely publicized problems with terrorist activity, especially in the remote areas that are far from the central government's control. However, up until recently (the last several months), we have not heard much about terrorist activity in Morocco and Mauritania. While Morocco is still considered mostly safe for Westerners, neighboring Mauritania keeps popping up in the media stories about Al-Qaeda and/or ISIS activity. A few known higher-level terrorists being tracked by Western intelligence services are known to have spent
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Newly classified chondrites from Chile for sale
Nowhere on your site is your name or location. Not a very good way to open your business. Michael Farmer On Mar 14, 2015, at 4:24 AM, justmeteorites.com via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Dear List, we have some newly classified meteorites for sale: From Chile: Carrizo 001 H5 Catalina 093 H4 Catalina 094 L5 Catalina 095 H4 Catalina 096 H3.6 Catalina 097 L4 Catalina 098 L5/6 Catalina 099 L6 Catalina 100 H4-5 Catalina 101 L6 Catalina 102 L3.8 Catalina 103 H4/5 Catalina 104 L6 Catalina 105 H3.8 Catalina 106 H3.6 San Juan 070 LL5-6 Vaquillas 001 L6 Vaquillas 002 H6 Vaquillas 003 H4 Vaquillas 004 L3.7 + several unclassified(beautiful) small chondrites - found by us, in situ pics - for sale as is (whole meteorite), slices/pieces available on request here: http://justmeteorites.com/c/meteorites-for-sale/stony-meteorites/ Some highlights: Beautiful oriented meteorite with window, thick fusion crust and gas bubbles: Catalina 099 L6 1627g at 2.9 EUR/g http://justmeteorites.com/p/stony-meteorite-atacama-chile-11/ Big impressive oriented meteorite Catalina 094 L5 4200g at 2.2 EUR/g http://justmeteorites.com/p/stony-meteorite-atacama-chile-9/ Big chondrite Catalina 094 L5 7700g at 1.4 EUR/g http://justmeteorites.com/p/stony-meteorite-atacama-chile-10/ Also: Muonionalusta meteorites: http://justmeteorites.com/c/meteorites-for-sale/muonionalusta-meteorites/ Monturaqui meteorites: http://justmeteorites.com/c/meteorites-for-sale/monturaqui-meteorites/ Monturaqui impactites: http://justmeteorites.com/c/impactites-for-sale/monturaqui-impactites/ Imilac meteorites: http://justmeteorites.com/c/meteorites-for-sale/imilac-meteorites/ Vaca Muerta meteorites: http://justmeteorites.com/c/meteorites-for-sale/vaca-muerta-meteorites/ + several Kg of small Vaca muerta fragments. There's much more available than currently shown on the website. Please contact us with any questions you may have. Many thanks for reading. http://justmeteorites.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Recovering Sikhote-Alin Iron in the field? Careful. There be tigers....
Beautiful sight to see those tigers roaming in Siberia. Michael Farmer On Mar 8, 2015, at 7:01 AM, Kevin Kichinka via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/nature/post/first-ever-photos-taken-amur-tiger-family/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] John schooler contact
John Schooler, my emails keep bouncing from you from all my email addresses. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy Birthdsy Nkayi meteorite
Nkayi, L6, fell March 1, 2009 in Zimbabwe. http://www.zimdiaspora.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=894:a-large-rock-mysteriously-falls-from-the-sky-in-zimbabwes-nkayi-villagecatid=38:travel-tipsItemid=274 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=Nkayisfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=61585 Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gold Basin
I'm confused since Gold Basin is an L4. Michael Farmer On Feb 26, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Gmail via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Very, very well done! Congrats to Joe and thank you both for showing us that what can be achieved when one is really committed to a pursuit. Mendy Ouzillou On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello List, As you may have heard, there has been a major development concerning the Gold Basin strewn field. Of course, it's possible this is not GB but the evidence looks very promising. Three years ago Joe Franske ventured to the north side of Lake Meade in search of the big end of Gold Basin. According to Joe, it took him 6 tries to get to the right location, but once he did, it took him only 3 hours to find a meteorite. This is a monumental feat to say the least. He brought me in on the project last March and I take no credit for this discovery. Sure, we all had an idea that the strewn field crossed the lake, we all drew lines, but only one guy had the steel to go get it done. Hats off to Joe. Joe and I have decided we are pretty much done out there for now. We documented well over 100 pounds, most of which was found on the south side of Jumbo Peak. Last week I extended the field another 5.75 miles with 2 finds on the north side of Jumbo, including a 34 pound stone that was broken into many pieces. We decided to give you guys some details regarding the find locations, hence this message, but in return we would like to know about any finds you make so that we may continue documenting the strewn field. Jim Kreigh, John Blennert and Twink Monrad did a fantastic job documenting in the past and we would like to do the same. I know there are some hunters out there that will not share and so be it, but most of us are good people and I would expect some cooperation for the good of the larger picture. Please send your reports to me so that I can share them with the scientist involved with our work. Joe found the first stone on the south side of Jumbo Peak and that is where the majority of the finds were made. The area is only about a mile wide and I highly doubt that defines the outer limits of the field, however, to go farther east or west is difficult due to terrain. Go onto Google earth and you will see the valley just south of the peak, and north of the park boundary, this is where you start. On the north side of Jumbo Peak you will find most of the area too soft for meteorite recovery. Decomposing granite has likely buried the stones too deep for detection. In my mind it's a small miracle that I found the 2 stones on that side. To put the difficulty into perspective, we spent 36 man days to locate the 2 stones and out of four hunters I was the only one to score. That place will hand your butt to you on a platter, as they say. As a side note; If you decide to give this place a try there are some things to consider. To get to the south side of Jumbo you will need a 4 wheel drive and it takes about 3.5 - 4 hours once you leave Mesquite. There is no phone service and the road out wants to eat your truck! If you go, plan to stay for several days at least, it's a lot of work and expense just for a day or two. If you have any specific questions feel free to email me. Good luck and fair sailing to all who go! Here's the low down on the science so far. I submitted samples from my 16+ lb. stone (found March, 2014) to UCLA this past summer. It did come back L6 as can be seen below. Dr. Kring wants to do more work including cosmogenics and such, on several different samples to help come to a conclusion as to whether or not it is indeed Gold Basin . When asked how I know it's GB I say that the classification is consistent, they look the same in hand, on the exterior and the interior, and they are in line with the logical progression of the known field. Sure, it could be something different, but simply put, the easiest, most obvious and logical answer is usually the right answer. I'd be very, very surprised if it was something else. UCLA (Rubin, Breen) received August 18, 2014, 2 pieces, 23.7 g L6 S4 W1 olivine: Fa 23.9±0.2 (n=15); low-Ca pyroxene: Fs20.3±0.3 Wo1.6±0.2 (n=12) plagioclase grains are typically 60-100 µm in size. The rock exhibits weak mosacisim but does not contain maskelynite. Sincerely, Larry Atkins IMCA # 1941 Ebay alienrockfarm __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https
Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update - Nkayi and NWA's
Glad to see Nkayi finally approved. I still have a few hundred grams left for sale, slices coming soon. Michael Farmer On Feb 25, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi Bulletin Watchers, There are three new approvals. One is the Nkayi fall from Zimbabwe and the other two are OC's from the NWA DCA. Link : http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=sfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=1pnt=Normal%20tabledr=page=0 Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk is not a impact-melt?
Steve and Quinn Arnold are telling us on Facebook that Chelyabinsk is not an impact-melt breccia, and that Tony Irving confirms that. Is that true? Funny when I google it, hundreds of papers discuss the metric ton of known Chelyabinsk as all being impact-melt material. Of course, those of us who went there and have a large amount of Chelyabinsk can tell you that it sure seem full of clasts, and melt pockets and shock veins. Since his kickstarter rock seems to be the only known LL5 melt (according to the (met. Bull.)and Chelyabinsk seems to be nothing of the sort, it is amazing to me. Comments? Anyone in this list, scientist or collector know something I don't, that Chelyabinsk is a non impact-melt meteorite? Micael Farmer Sent from my iPad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15
Completely agree, these are modern fakes. That style is Sumerian, Iran, Iraq. Thousands of years bc. Not anything ever seen or described here. Michael Michael Farmer On Feb 18, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Count Deiro via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi Adam and all, These incisions are both modern. This type of cattle never exisited on this continent in modern, or prehistoric times. Also the medium into which they were incised was never used in the South West for this type of art. The cattle are plainly Middle Eastern/Indo/Asian types. Horn position, width and length. Bramhan type body with hump and body length, weight, etc. etc. I must admit that they (assuming they are different works) are unique in their location and presentation. But, never the less show all indications of being tool made and modern representations, or reproductions. To acknowledge this animal as associated with any North American civilization would be to fly in the face of all we know about North American wild and domesticated cattle and their time of introduction. Count Deiro Nevada Museum of Art Center for Art + the Environment (the Deiro Collection) Reno, Nevada Board Member Emeritus-State of Nevada-Nevada Arts Council-National Endowment of the Arts. -Original Message- From: wahlperry--- via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Feb 17, 2015 9:12 PM To: raremeteori...@centurylink.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Hi Adam and List, Check out this rock art that we found while hiking in a remote area. The image seems to resemble the one in your picture. I wonder if they could be related. Sonny http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Nevada_art.html -Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Feb 17, 2015 5:14 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Interesting about the focus being put onto Native American cultures and the importance they place on meteorites. I am fortunate that my wife, who is 50% Cherokee Native American, shares similar interests to this day. She has never once complained about my fascination and spending on artifacts, meteorites and other collectables. She recently joked about collecting land. We will need it for the rock garden she has put together while spending a great deal of time with the new and improved Team LunarRock in the field.Below is an image of my wife admiring a famous and controversial 800 pound artifact that we purchased from the original finders and are storing among other collectables. Some of you may recognize this artifact from a documentary show dedicated a complete episode to the piece. I do not agree with the show host's interpretations, felt the urge to rescue it from his laboratory (studio) and purchased out from underneath them. Many of these shows have no respect for such things and are more concerned with shamelessly promoting themselves. I am onto a meteorite that weighs several times the amount of this artifact, is located on private property which is for sale and surrounded by lithic scatter meaning early man was drawn to it. It will definitely be a pallet buster like this piece!Link to an image of my wonderful wife and a recent acquisition:http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/ZannWithBullArtifact.jpgHapp y Hunting,Adam Original Message - From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comTo: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:02 PMSubject: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Hello Listers Enjoy Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com What's Happening; 2-18-15 Cottonwood Meteorite Added to Exhibit March 1-Aug. 31 The Verde Valley Archaeology Center located at 385 S. Main Street in Camp Verde will add the Cottonwood Meteorite to an exhibit running from March 1 to Aug. 31. The loan of these meteorites from the Arizona State University Center for Meteorite Studies was arranged with the cooperation of Dr. Lawrence Garvie, Research Professor at the ASU School of Earth Space Exploration. The Center will be hosting Dr. Garvie for a free talk on meteorites on March 3, at 7 p.m., in the Phillip England Center for the Performing Arts, 210 Camp Lincoln Road in Camp Verde. The Center will also give monthly talks on the importance and uses of meteorites among ancient Native American cultures during the span of the exhibit. Visit verdevalleyarchaeology.org or call (928) 567-0066 for more information. Source: http://cvbugle.com/main.asp?SectionID=74SubSectionID=114ArticleID=45361
Re: [meteorite-list] New fall, Nkayi Zimbabwe
Really? That's cool. Thuathe and Kilabo fell same day. Lesotho and Nigeria. Michael Farmer On Feb 6, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: This is the same day as the Cartersville Georgia fall. Have two different meteorites ever fallen on the same day in different parts of the world and been recovered? Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 2/6/15, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: New fall to announce, Nkayi, Zimbabwe. Fell 1 March 2009. L6 Only 15 kilograms was saved from a ~100 kilogram stone. I bought the entire remaining mass which was a large fragment of 8 kilos and about 4 kilos of fragments. For sale today $20 gram. It is the only meteorite ever available from Zimbabwe. Pieces from ~1 gram to 676 grams available. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New fall, Nkayi Zimbabwe
New fall to announce, Nkayi, Zimbabwe. Fell 1 March 2009. L6 Only 15 kilograms was saved from a ~100 kilogram stone. I bought the entire remaining mass which was a large fragment of 8 kilos and about 4 kilos of fragments. For sale today $20 gram. It is the only meteorite ever available from Zimbabwe. Pieces from ~1 gram to 676 grams available. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman Collection items coming to Tucson
Wow, so super secret that this curator has to be anonymous? Strange email. Michael Farmer On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:20 AM, Robert Verish via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I'm forwarding a message from the curator for the Ron Hartman Collection, that he will be in Tucson later this week and will be making available some specimens from that collection. Here is a short list of some of the specimens being offered for trade or sale: ID# 35) Clover Springs Mesosiderite 6.6255 g. V. Good Corner slice. (SMB) ID# 37) Bensour, Morocco Ordinary Chondrite, LL6 5.69 g. Individual. Fell 2-11-2002 ID# 49) Cleo Springs Ordinary Chondrite, H4 53.9 g. Good Slice ID# 55) Fuyu, (proposed name) Jilin, China Ordinary Chondrite, H5 13.75 g. Part-slice. Fell 8-15-1993 (ex. mhmeteorites) ID# 56) Hebron Stone H6 Brecciated 17.19 g. Good Part slice. Thayer Co. Nebraska ID# 70) Silver Dry Lake Ordinary Chondrite, L4 S2 W2 1.272 g. Good endcut, nice fusion crust. ID# 79) Dar al Gani DaG 749 Carbonaceous Chondrite CO3 12.622 g. V. Good - Rectangular slice. ID#380) Sahara SAH 99433 OC Stone 56.86 g. V. Good thick complete slice. ID#875) Pallasovka Pallasite 11.0 g. V. Good Quarter circle slice. The curators contact information will not be known until after he arrives in Tucson. In the meanwhile, if you are interested in making an offer or trade, you can reply to me and I will relay your messages. Bob Verish __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman Collection items coming to Tucson
It is just a very strange post. I'm not questioning the validity or facts, but selling of some small pieces and not naming the person trying to sell them looks strange to me. So we are awaiting a mystery curator to show up and offer some pieces. Michael Farmer On Feb 3, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Robert Verish via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Yes, it is common knowledge that Ron's son, Jim, sold many of the meteorites from his father's collection. So, it MAY be that Jim was the executor of the estate, but in no way would I call Jim the curator. But that is in the past. I'm just the messenger here, but what I do know for certain is that the owner of the R.N. Collection is Ron's wife, Petra Hartman. I know that she has designated (in a notarized letter) a friend of the family to be in charge of the collection. He has agreed in writing: that he will not be paid for this work - not for labor, nor for expenses. This is the person that I am calling the present curator. By the way, I am also volunteering my time and effort with this collection pro bono at the request of the curator (and as a friend of the family). So, forgive me if I show little patience with all of these distractions. Reader's of this List should take note that I have clearly stated what I know to be fact from those statements which are only to the best of my knowledge. Too many posts to this List are stating conjecture and opinion (promoting an agenda) as if it were actual fact. This is not to reflect on those who have replied to this thread. But recent threads have been perfect examples. Personal agendas about the meteorite market, the Tucson Show, the BLM, and Nevada meteorites have been shown to have no basis in reality, let alone in fact. This is resulting in a great deal of misinformation. What I find worse is that obviously untrue statements are going unchallenged. With the sole exception of Mike Farmer, nobody is questioning these posts for their basis in fact. Whoa!! Just saw all of the replies about my post. Gotta go; no more time left for dispelling rumors... Bob V. On Tue, 2/3/15, Gmail via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman Collection items coming to Tucson To: Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com Cc: Meteoritecentral List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2015, 7:11 AM The only actual curator would be Jim Hartman, Ron's son. I worked with Jim over the course of 12 months to acquire a large amount of the collection. I know of 3 other people who also bought from Jim. The only thing I am calling myself is grateful. A fair number of these pieces will remain in my collection forever like my 32.5kg Campo, 13kg Canyon Diablo found by Ron himself and 20g slice of Thiel Mountain an Antarctic pallasite, to name a few. My only regret is that I never got a chance to meet this great man. I have been selling some of his collection and will continue to do so. I will also continue to buy old collections, so if anyone is considering doing so then let me know. Best, Mendy Ouzillou On Feb 3, 2015, at 1:20 AM, Robert Verish via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I'm forwarding a message from the curator for the Ron Hartman Collection, that he will be in Tucson later this week and will be making available some specimens from that collection. Here is a short list of some of the specimens being offered for trade or sale: ID# 35) Clover Springs Mesosiderite 6.6255 g. V. Good Corner slice. (SMB) ID# 37) Bensour, Morocco Ordinary Chondrite, LL6 5.69 g. Individual. Fell 2-11-2002 ID# 49) Cleo Springs Ordinary Chondrite, H4 53.9 g. Good Slice ID# 55) Songyuan [label has printed: Fuyu, (proposed name)] Jilin, China Ordinary Chondrite, H5 13.75 g. Part-slice. Fell 8-15-1993 (ex. mhmeteorites) ID# 56) Hebron Stone H6 Brecciated 17.19 g. Good Part slice. Thayer Co. Nebraska ID# 70) Silver Dry Lake Ordinary Chondrite, L4 S2 W2 1.272 g. Good endcut, nice fusion crust. [On HOLD] ID# 79) Dar al Gani DaG 749 Carbonaceous Chondrite CO3 12.622 g. V. Good - Rectangular slice. ID#380) Sahara SAH 99433 OC Stone 56.86 g. V. Good thick complete slice. ID#875) Pallasovka Pallasite 11.0 g. V. Good quarter-circle slice. The curators contact information will not be known until after he arrives in Tucson. In the meanwhile, if you are interested in making an offer or trade, you can reply to me and I will relay your messages. Bob Verish __ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Fun Friends
Will miss seeing you Linton. Hopefully next year. Michael Farmer On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:05 PM, Linton Rohr via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I hope *everyone* attending has as much fun as you are, Greg! Wish I could be there again, but I'll have to be content to work on improving my collection inventory/catalog. Best wishes to all, Linton -Original Message- From: Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:44 AM To: meteorite list Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson Fun Friends Hello All, Saturday morning we landed in Phoenix on delayed flights due to the storm and didn't make it to Tucson until 3:30 AM. After sleeping in we eventually made our way to the Inn Suites around 2:00 PM enjoying the pouring rain and flooding. Being an experienced show attendee, I was able to 'talk' my way through the blocked hotel parking area and found a spot 10 feet from the covered walkway. We spent the next three hours visiting with old friends, meeting new ones and finally meeting a few 'Facebook' friends I have never met in person. That night we met with close friends from out of state for dinner and enjoyed great seafood and Margaritas... Awesome first day of the show! Yesterday, after a relaxed morning of sleeping in again, we went to a couple show rooms and I bought two nice diogenites, a CM2 and a gorgeous howardite... We later met with friends for fantastic southwest grilled seafood and delicious pizza while watching the Super Bowl, fun times were had by all. Today is another relaxed start of the day and more meteorite 'Fun Friends'... Looking forward to meeting up more peeps! Greg Hupe Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show
When you stay in $20 per night hotels on Miracle Mile where the street girls show their goods usually rented by the hour, nothing less can be expected. Michael Farmer On Feb 1, 2015, at 12:12 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Tucson is scarier to me than Oman, Rub al Kali and the Australian Outback, especially at night. There is a reason that 24 hour convenience stores lock their doors at dusk and pass goods through barred windows at night there. The nearby Mexican border town of Nogales no fun either. Been there several times but no longer have the desire to return. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show Teslas will not be built in Nevada, just batteries. Yes, great city cars. I'm sure Nevada is way more scary than say, Oman, the Rub al Kali, the Australian outback, etc. Camel Donga was more than 150 miles from the nearest road. Not even a casino nearby. I think I can handle off-road driving after more than 15000 miles of doing exactly that while meteorite hunting in the Arabian desert. The jeep looks cool. Michael Sent from my iPad On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Teslas, which are soon to be built right here in Nevada, are extremely nice city cars but you will need a $160,000.00 Jeep American Expedition Vehicles (AEV) Rubicon Brute or a Jeep Special Operations (SPLOPS) Rubicon to hang with the big boys in field :) What does a Tesla have to do with a trade show for Gems and Minerals other than not burning any fossil fuel? I wouldn't park my 65 Cobra 427 SC which gets between 4 to 8 miles per gallon anywhere near Tucson for fear that somebody might steal an irreplaceable piece of chrome or emblem from it. Good luck with the show and I will enjoy the Superbowl, And this Spring, I have a gut feeling that some lucky meteorite hunter is going to find the first North American lunar meteorite on a private ranch which can only be reached by a dirty and muddy road. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show Good grief. Why worry about it? You aren't here. I drive a $130,000 tesla, and I got parking and even made it through the mud! I wouldn't subject it to any bad parking conditions. You would think by your post that somehow Tucson has become The Congo. Just play on eBay and leave Tucson to the dealers:) Michael Farmer On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: The reason there were no parking spots left is that the overflow parking in the dirt was muddy from what I was told from a fossil buyer who left early in disgust. Everybody knows that there is no where near enough parking at the Insuites to begin with, even under normal circumstances. There were many spots available Thursday from what I was told, the first time I have heard this during all of the previous shows I have attended. You used to have to circle two or three times to find a spot even with the overflow parking open. I am not there this year so depend on reports from others and what is published in the in the media. In any case, I am glad to stay home this year. I hope those that spent the money to visit the show are rewarded with some good deals. I just have not heard of any at this point. Only 9 meteorite vendors bother to post the Tucson Show information request, the lowest number I have ever seen since it was started. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics?
Adam, I am sorry the only one having adversity seems to be you. Good luck with that, one day when you actually leave your house and use those cool trucks you might be happier. Tucson won't be the same without you. But everyone here is getting a kick out of your posts regarding the show. It's ok, Bagdad Bob was funny as well. Those of us still in the business are doing fine, well, with some exceptions of people who think eBay sales and kickstarter scams will make them any money. Anyway, nice chatting with you, I have a very busy and large room of meteorites to attend to. Michael Sent from my iPad On Jan 31, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Mike, you should be commended for putting on a brave face during adversity. One just needs to look at news reports that have no reason to lie about attendance. I noticed attendance dropping off last year when I did go to the show. For the first time I can recall, getting a room is no problem at all this year. I left my options open and decided a few days ago it was not worth it for me this year. The lack of deals, bad weather, Superbowl traffic, scams and lack of meteorite social gatherings was enough to keep me away this year. The truth is that most people do not have much disposable income to attend the show in the first place is what the news is reporting. The millennials could care less about collectables these days and don't have any spare funds for non-electronic gadgets. I have a huge stockpile of meteorites and a warehouse full of antiques to prove it. The only hot items selling these days for me are vehicles and artifacts. My wife acquired a large U.S. space program collection which I will start listing items from in the up and coming weeks. My only hope is to break even on it since it was acquired due to an investor failing to pay a note. I wish all the honest dealers well and hope that collectors can find a piece or two to add to their collections. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics? I'm confused, how could attendance be lowest in decades? The show starts today. There are no rental cars and very hard to find a place to sleep in the entire city. It is pouring rain and flooding and hotel is full, parking lot completely full and people walking blocks in the rain to get here. My sales at just fine, and yes, there are no wholesale prices and supply is down and prices are up. Adam, Find new people to lie to you about the show because the ones telling you this crap are delusional, or come down for yourself. Michael Farmer On Jan 31, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I take the buyer's market comment back. I just read some emails from several collectors and one dealer that vendors are asking full retail and there are very few bargains to be had. It used to be that it was worth the price of traveling there in order to pick up a few good deals. No such thing as wholesale prices until the end of the show when dealers become desperate to move inventory, some of which is left over from several years from past shows. In this case, the law of supply and demand appear to be out of sync. According to the press, there are a bunch of tire kickers who are holding onto their now, very limited, hard-earned cash so we will have to see what happens. I guess the lower cost of gas isn't helping or people are distracted with the Superbowl hosted in Glendale, Arizona which is expected to attract over one million tourists. Go Seahawks! Adam - Original Message - From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics? I guess everybody's perception is different. I read that attendance is the lowest in a decade and two meteorite dealers, one artifact dealer and one mineral vendor I talked to said they would be lucky to earn their show fees back and they probably will not be returning next year. It looks like a buyers market to me. Adam . - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics? Tucson is jumping. All hotels full. More people than in many years. Sales are good. Supply is way down. Prices are up because supply running out. The show is great. Last year was my best year at the show, didn't sell a million
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson weather
Yes, in fact supposed to be 80F by the end of the week. Weather will be flawless for the rest of the show. Michael Farmer On Feb 1, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Larry and Twink Monrad via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: The good news is that our usual Tucson sun is out, fog is lifting and the puddles will be drying up. A few clouds are hanging around but will be gone soon. Will be sunny and high seventies (f) for the forseeable future. Twink Monrad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show
My point to Adam after reading his usual diatribe of crap that parking can't be too bad if I'm willing to risk parking my car at the show. I'm not sure where someone who isn't here and doesn't plan to come can spend so much time telling others what's going on here when he clearly had no idea. Amazingly plenty of Chinese and Japanese buyers were here, found parking, and even survived the flooding to spend their money. Sad that an American is so afraid of some water and full parking lots to come when they circle the planet to get here. Michael Farmer On Feb 1, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I drove my $1,750.32 Geo Metro (yes, I have the pink slip) to the Hotel City Center, aka the Inn Suites, yesterday after lunch. Parking was indeed full up but I got a good spot in the big parking lot because I gave the guy in the rain slicker half of my sandwich. Poor guy was miserable out there doing traffic control. He put my ride high-and-dry under the power tower and told me he'd keep an eye on it. Can't beat that! I can't say much about supply and demand except I want just about everything I saw:) Only spent an hour - too miserable with all the standing water. When I got back to the parking lot I noticed that the attendant had washed my window! Thanked him and went home. Paul Swartz From: Michael Farmer (m...@meteoriteguy.com) Good grief. Why worry about it? You aren't here. I drive a $130,000 tesla, and I got parking and even made it through the mud! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics?
Tucson is jumping. All hotels full. More people than in many years. Sales are good. Supply is way down. Prices are up because supply running out. The show is great. Last year was my best year at the show, didn't sell a million $$$ but actually not far from it. People with no material and no ambition should stay home, as the show is really active and walking required. The hotel parking lot was completely full this morning, first time in a few years actually despite major flooding rain. Michael Farmer On Jan 30, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: It looks like only 9 meteorite vendors posted information on the Tuson Information page so the show seems to be somewhat subdued this year; probably a sign of the times. I decided not to attend this year for many reasons. The only thing I will miss is the IMCA dinner and the Michael Blood auction which no longer exists. I would rather spend my hard earned funds from artifact sales on searching for meteorites and other minerals. Hopefully, some images of the IMCA dinner will be posted, Adam - Original Message - From: Doug Ross via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:52 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics? Hi all, Any pics from Tucson? I wish I could have gone this year, and would love to see what goodies I’m missing out on…. Doug Ross d...@dougross.net __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show
Teslas will not be built in Nevada, just batteries. Yes, great city cars. I'm sure Nevada is way more scary than say, Oman, the Rub al Kali, the Australian outback, etc. Camel Donga was more than 150 miles from the nearest road. Not even a casino nearby. I think I can handle off-road driving after more than 15000 miles of doing exactly that while meteorite hunting in the Arabian desert. The jeep looks cool. Michael Sent from my iPad On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Teslas, which are soon to be built right here in Nevada, are extremely nice city cars but you will need a $160,000.00 Jeep American Expedition Vehicles (AEV) Rubicon Brute or a Jeep Special Operations (SPLOPS) Rubicon to hang with the big boys in field :) What does a Tesla have to do with a trade show for Gems and Minerals other than not burning any fossil fuel? I wouldn't park my 65 Cobra 427 SC which gets between 4 to 8 miles per gallon anywhere near Tucson for fear that somebody might steal an irreplaceable piece of chrome or emblem from it. Good luck with the show and I will enjoy the Superbowl, And this Spring, I have a gut feeling that some lucky meteorite hunter is going to find the first North American lunar meteorite on a private ranch which can only be reached by a dirty and muddy road. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show Good grief. Why worry about it? You aren't here. I drive a $130,000 tesla, and I got parking and even made it through the mud! I wouldn't subject it to any bad parking conditions. You would think by your post that somehow Tucson has become The Congo. Just play on eBay and leave Tucson to the dealers:) Michael Farmer On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: The reason there were no parking spots left is that the overflow parking in the dirt was muddy from what I was told from a fossil buyer who left early in disgust. Everybody knows that there is no where near enough parking at the Insuites to begin with, even under normal circumstances. There were many spots available Thursday from what I was told, the first time I have heard this during all of the previous shows I have attended. You used to have to circle two or three times to find a spot even with the overflow parking open. I am not there this year so depend on reports from others and what is published in the in the media. In any case, I am glad to stay home this year. I hope those that spent the money to visit the show are rewarded with some good deals. I just have not heard of any at this point. Only 9 meteorite vendors bother to post the Tucson Show information request, the lowest number I have ever seen since it was started. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show
Good grief. Why worry about it? You aren't here. I drive a $130,000 tesla, and I got parking and even made it through the mud! I wouldn't subject it to any bad parking conditions. You would think by your post that somehow Tucson has become The Congo. Just play on eBay and leave Tucson to the dealers:) Michael Farmer On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: The reason there were no parking spots left is that the overflow parking in the dirt was muddy from what I was told from a fossil buyer who left early in disgust. Everybody knows that there is no where near enough parking at the Insuites to begin with, even under normal circumstances. There were many spots available Thursday from what I was told, the first time I have heard this during all of the previous shows I have attended. You used to have to circle two or three times to find a spot even with the overflow parking open. I am not there this year so depend on reports from others and what is published in the in the media. In any case, I am glad to stay home this year. I hope those that spent the money to visit the show are rewarded with some good deals. I just have not heard of any at this point. Only 9 meteorite vendors bother to post the Tucson Show information request, the lowest number I have ever seen since it was started. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics?
I'm confused, how could attendance be lowest in decades? The show starts today. There are no rental cars and very hard to find a place to sleep in the entire city. It is pouring rain and flooding and hotel is full, parking lot completely full and people walking blocks in the rain to get here. My sales at just fine, and yes, there are no wholesale prices and supply is down and prices are up. Adam, Find new people to lie to you about the show because the ones telling you this crap are delusional, or come down for yourself. Michael Farmer On Jan 31, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I take the buyer's market comment back. I just read some emails from several collectors and one dealer that vendors are asking full retail and there are very few bargains to be had. It used to be that it was worth the price of traveling there in order to pick up a few good deals. No such thing as wholesale prices until the end of the show when dealers become desperate to move inventory, some of which is left over from several years from past shows. In this case, the law of supply and demand appear to be out of sync. According to the press, there are a bunch of tire kickers who are holding onto their now, very limited, hard-earned cash so we will have to see what happens. I guess the lower cost of gas isn't helping or people are distracted with the Superbowl hosted in Glendale, Arizona which is expected to attract over one million tourists. Go Seahawks! Adam - Original Message - From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics? I guess everybody's perception is different. I read that attendance is the lowest in a decade and two meteorite dealers, one artifact dealer and one mineral vendor I talked to said they would be lucky to earn their show fees back and they probably will not be returning next year. It looks like a buyers market to me. Adam . - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics? Tucson is jumping. All hotels full. More people than in many years. Sales are good. Supply is way down. Prices are up because supply running out. The show is great. Last year was my best year at the show, didn't sell a million $$$ but actually not far from it. People with no material and no ambition should stay home, as the show is really active and walking required. The hotel parking lot was completely full this morning, first time in a few years actually despite major flooding rain. Michael Farmer On Jan 30, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: It looks like only 9 meteorite vendors posted information on the Tuson Information page so the show seems to be somewhat subdued this year; probably a sign of the times. I decided not to attend this year for many reasons. The only thing I will miss is the IMCA dinner and the Michael Blood auction which no longer exists. I would rather spend my hard earned funds from artifact sales on searching for meteorites and other minerals. Hopefully, some images of the IMCA dinner will be posted, Adam - Original Message - From: Doug Ross via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:52 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics? Hi all, Any pics from Tucson? I wish I could have gone this year, and would love to see what goodies I’m missing out on…. Doug Ross d...@dougross.net __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Middle school students lobbying Kansas lawmakers to declare official state rock
Why would Cabin Creek be a better choice? It is from Arkansas. Brenham, definitely Michael Farmer On Jan 28, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I'm just probably a meanie, but I think this effort is misguided though certainly better than making the state rock limestone. The children calculated that somehow, Kansas has more meteorites per square mile (not sure if finds, falls, or hits) than anywhere else in the US (if finds then sorry Arizona and Nevada). I am happy to see that calculations were done though disappointed that their teacher did not better guide their efforts. Finally, the picture in the article is clearly of a beautiful Sikhote Alin. I wonder how well that will go over with the state legislators. Maybe Cabin Creek would have been a better choice. :-) Mendy On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Listers I hope it passes be cool for Kansas have a meteorite for a state rock :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com SHAWNEE, Kan. – A group of local middle school students are lobbying to change state history. The students with Monticello Trails Middle School, which is part of the De Soto School District, are headed to Topeka to argue for an official state rock. Chris Sprenger, an 8th grade student at the school, is determined to make the meteorite the official Kansas state rock. “The meteorite really has a connection with Kansas that it really doesn’t have with any of the other states in the U.S.,” Sprenger said. Sprenger and more than 100 other students in the district pitched the bill to Representative Brett Hildabrand. Lobbying for a state rock has challenged the students across the board. In social studies they’ve learned how bills are passed, in science they’ve learned about geology and rocks and in communication arts they’ve spent hours working on their proposal essays. source:http://fox4kc.com/2015/01/27/middle-school-students-lobbying-kansas-lawmakers-to-declare-official-state-rock/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Huh? PhD has a Meteor? over Houston, TX? Looks like an aircraft contrail to me.
Where did he buy his Phd? I need one myself. Must have been cheap. Michael Farmer On Jan 21, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: This one is a no-brainer -- jet contrail. It's dumbfounding why anyone would think an object traveling that slowly could be anything other than a plane. Slow news day in Houston? --Rob -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of drtanuki via Meteorite-list Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:25 AM To: Meteorite-list Subject: [meteorite-list] Huh? PhD has a Meteor? over Houston, TX? Looks like an aircraft contrail to me. List, Huh? Physics/Astronomy PhD has a Meteor? over Houston, TX? Looks like an aircraft contrail to me. Tell me that I am wrong. Expert explains strange fireball flying over Houston area KHOU A slow moving meteor can make one full swing around the world before crashing or disintegrating. The fireball Sterling captures is similar to the one ... http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2015/01/21/expert-explains-strange-fireball-flying-over-houston-area/22088689/ Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The True Story of Ann Ho dges: History¹s Only Meteorite Victim
Yes the hodges stone is safe in the museum. I think you are right, the core is from that stone. I think Robert Woolard wrote a great piece about it. I forgot that the King sale had a core. That material certainly not on the market these days. Michael Farmer On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:12 PM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Thank you Frank I had always been under the impression that my core was from the bruiser. None, not a gram had me in doubt but the photos from M have resolved my fears. Rob -- From: Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 7:46 PM To: Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net; Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net; Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]The True Story of Ann Ho dges: History¹s Only Meteorite Victim Rob, all, The Hammer stone in the Alabama Museum of Natural History was the stone that was cored. (Why would the Smithsonian core their stone after already slabbing it?) Provenmire in the 2003 article Sylacauga, Alabama Revisited in METEORITE, vol. 9, no. 2 states this about the Hodge's stone: An approximate 31 mm diameter core has been removed from the bottom of the object (34 mm deep) for internal examination and thin section analysis. He also includes a photo of the stone which shows the core hole. Cheers, Frank On Monday, January 19, 2015 6:47 PM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Am I missing something, didn't we just establish that the hammer was never cut or cored and remains 100% intact in the Alabama Museum of Natural History? And that the one and only core (plus a slice) was taken from the Smithsonian second mass? Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: Michael Blood via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 6:32 PM To: Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com; Met. Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The True Story of Ann Ho dges: History¹s Only Meteorite Victim I believe about 13 thin slices of the core - which are about the diameter of A quarter, but only about 60% as thick - total in the entire meteorite community. It is always far more expensive than the 2nd stone from the Smithsonian (which is not the hammer stone), due to higher desirability Combined with a far greater degree of rarity. Michael Blood On 1/18/15 12:42 PM, Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Frank and Listers And its the second stone that was donated to the Smithsonian that is on the meteorite market from time to time. I wonder how much of the first stone that hit Mrs. Hodges is available to collectors? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The True Story of Ann Ho dges: History¹s Only Meteorite Victim From: Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net Date: Sun, January 18, 2015 11:37 am To: Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com, Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello all, The article isn't clear where the stones are. The meteorite that hit Mrs. Hodges is in the Alabama Museum of Natural History. A second stone (3.75 kg) was purchased by Stuart Perry and donated to the Smithsonian. Cheers, Frank On Saturday, January 17, 2015 12:23 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Listers I wish I was a victim from a meteorite Lunar fall :) Enjoy the TRUe STORy Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com The True Story of Ann Hodges: History¹s Only Meteorite Victim January 16, 2015 By First to Know Getting hit by a falling meteor is far more uncommon than getting struck by lighting. How uncommon you might ask? There is only one confirmed person in history to have ever been hit by one. And she had the evidence to prove it. Back in November 1954, Ann Hodges was taking a nap in her Sylacauga, Alabama, home when a rock about 12 inches in circumference came crashing through the ceiling. The meteorite then collided with her thigh, leaving behind a large, conspicuous bruise. Thankfully, it didn¹t smash into her head, or the scene would have been much more gruesome. When word got around
Re: [meteorite-list] Sao Paulo Meteorite/s Recovered from 09JAN2015 Daytime Event!
The area is nothing but farms and ranches. Beautiful for hunting. Michael Farmer On Jan 19, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi Andre/Dirk, I was going to say after looking at the excellent images -- how in the world did they find it in that terrain?! The witness(es) must have been very close indeed. Nice looking stone. --Rob From: Meteorite-list [meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] on behalf of André Moutinho via Meteorite-list [meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 8:34 AM Cc: Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sao Paulo Meteorite/s Recovered from 09JAN2015 Daytime Event! Hi Dirk, Thanks for sharing. Fortunatelly it was found by a local witness, otherwise it would be impossible to discover because of local terrain conditions. Best Andre Moutinho 2015-01-19 13:05 GMT-02:00 drtanuki via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com: List, Some exciting news for the Sao Paulo MeteorRats! They found at least one meteorite from the event! There are more to be found http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2015/01/porangaba-sao-paulo-brasil-meteorite.html My congratulations to all the the Sao Paulo MeteorRats for the fast scramble as requested! Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The True Story of Ann Ho dges: History’s Only Meteorite Victim
None, not a gram. Michael Farmer On Jan 18, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Frank and Listers And its the second stone that was donated to the Smithsonian that is on the meteorite market from time to time. I wonder how much of the first stone that hit Mrs. Hodges is available to collectors? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The True Story of Ann Ho dges: History’s Only Meteorite Victim From: Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net Date: Sun, January 18, 2015 11:37 am To: Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com, Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello all, The article isn't clear where the stones are. The meteorite that hit Mrs. Hodges is in the Alabama Museum of Natural History. A second stone (3.75 kg) was purchased by Stuart Perry and donated to the Smithsonian. Cheers, Frank On Saturday, January 17, 2015 12:23 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Listers I wish I was a victim from a meteorite Lunar fall :) Enjoy the TRUe STORy Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com The True Story of Ann Hodges: History’s Only Meteorite Victim January 16, 2015 By First to Know Getting hit by a falling meteor is far more uncommon than getting struck by lighting. How uncommon you might ask? There is only one confirmed person in history to have ever been hit by one. And she had the evidence to prove it. Back in November 1954, Ann Hodges was taking a nap in her Sylacauga, Alabama, home when a rock about 12 inches in circumference came crashing through the ceiling. The meteorite then collided with her thigh, leaving behind a large, conspicuous bruise. Thankfully, it didn’t smash into her head, or the scene would have been much more gruesome. When word got around about the meteor, the entire town flocked to her home. There were so many people curious to see what happened that she became extremely nervous and had to be taken to the hospital. Because she was a simple country woman, she wasn’t used to all the attention. It made her frenzied. The incident didn’t end there. Despite a government geologist confirming that the object was, in fact, a meteorite, police confiscated it and requested the Air Force’s verification. Many people in the tiny town thought the smoke trails in the sky and loud explosion meant a plane had crashed, while others, paranoid by the Cold War, blamed the Soviets. The object needed some clearing up. Once verified, the only other thing left to do was figure out who the rock belonged to. Of course, Hodges believed it was rightfully hers to keep. “I feel like the meteorite is mine,” she said, according to the Alabama Museum of Natural History. “I think God intended it for me. After all, it hit me!” But, as luck would have it, she wasn’t the only person wanting to stake a claim for the space rock. Her landlady, Birdie Guy, wanted to keep it for herself. Guy found a lawyer and sued Hodges, alleging that it was hers because it landed on her property. Although the law was leaning in her favor, the community wasn’t too happy about that verdict. So, in exchange for $500, they settled out of court. Soon after, the woman and her husband, Eugene, received an offer from the Smithsonian for the rock, though they turned it down — hoping to score a better offer. An offer they’d never get. No one approached them to purchase the controversial entity. In 1956, the Hodges wound up donating it to the museum. If you’re interested in checking it out, it’s still on display. The entire story is just a little heartbreaking, especially when you consider that Ann suffered a nervous breakdown from the meteorite hysterics. According to the museum, “she never did recover” from the frenzy that followed that fateful day. The couple later separated, and, in 1972, she went on to die of kidney failure in a nursing home. She “wasn’t a person who sought out the limelight. The Hodges were just simple country people, and I really think that all the attention was her downfall,” explained museum director Randy Mecredy. What makes this woman’s story so rare is that meteorites typically fall into the ocean or land somewhere desolate (not on top of a woman napping on her couch), according to Michael Reynolds, a Florida State College astronomer. “Think of how many people have lived throughout human history,” Reynolds said. “You have a better chance of getting hit by a tornado and a bolt of lightning and a hurricane all at the same time.” In the photo above, Moody Jacobs reveals her bruise from the incident. Source: http
Re: [meteorite-list] 5th Annual Eating Your Way Around Tucson - 2015
La Fuente is long out of business. Michael Farmer On Jan 12, 2015, at 7:24 AM, John Teague via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: 5th Annual Eating Your Way Around Tucson - 2015 Hey, List Members! I have it on good authority that Tucson is fast approaching! With that in mind, I am once again giving my “Annual Eating Your Way Around Tucson” list, a slight name change from last year. This list has been put together with over twenty years of attending the shows. These are my opinions (well, my wife, Cookie, too!) only. I have no vested interest in any of these establishments, no free food, etc! I just like good food! Maybe you will find my/our tastes different from yours but all of these are worth a try! Again this year, I am leaving for Tucson mid-January! This will be my fourth year to make the 2200 mile (each way!) drive to Tucson. Cookie is flying out later! Guess that she is a bit smarter than I! But better days are ahead as Cookie is retiring July 2nd and will be ‘able’ to drive out with me in 2016! I am adding some new locations suggested by list members last year after prior posts. We did get to try some of them and enjoyed them VERY much. I hope to add more this year! NEW FAVORITES for us! Fist, a BIG “Thank you!” to Terry Sayther from Austin Texas! Terry sent us a couple of suggestions for breakfast … or ANYtime! We are calling them “MUSTS”! MUST #1: Bobo's Restaurant, 2938 E. Grant Road, 520-326-6163 http://www.bobostucson.com/ We at there ‘more than once’ in 2014! Everything is GREAT! I have to be gluten free but try the pancakes! They are the size of a plate! The omelets are WONDERFUL! Check out the deserts! MUST #2: Robert’s Restaurant (closed Sunday), 3301 East Grant Road, (520) 795-1436 http://www.robertstucson.com/ We also visited Robert’s a couple of times! Robert’s is just down the street from Bobo’s but on the opposite side of Grant! You cannot go wrong with either choice! If you are looking for GREAT ‘diner’ eats, give Little Anthony's Diner (, 7010 E Broadway Blvd, 520-296-0456) a try http://littleanthonysdiner.com/ I know this is not food/eating related but check out The Gaslight Theatre http://thegaslighttheatre.com/! During Tucson show time, the Gaslight offers a old west themed, hilarious melodrama! We have attended each year for several years and have enjoyed each performance! This year’s production is Two Gun McGraw. You can order your tickets online for best seat selection and then pick them up in Tucson. Now, a ‘Classic’! * Pat's Drive In, 1202 West Niagara Street, 520-624-0891 I should not list this first, but I AM! I first read about Pat's in Arizona Highways magazine. It is a tradition in Arizona! It is on a side street off N. Grande Ave, between Speedway and St. Marys. It is near the condo that we rent each year. I had driven within half a block of it for years and did not know it existed! If you like the old drive in restaurants, this IS the place for you! If you like greasy fries by the pound, this is for you! If you like GREAT chili hotdogs, this IS the place for you, please note that they have three degrees of heat for their chili! We have favorites that we think everyone should try at least once. In no particular order: NEW! NEW! NEW! This is our NEW “favorite” from 2013: * Guadalajara Grill was suggested by good friend, Dennis Beal, XTAL, (Room 120, Hotel City Center, Marty Zinn’s Arizona Mineral Fossil Show). We have learned that if Dennis suggests a restaurant, you BEST try it! He has never sent us to a bad one, not even a mediocre one! Guadalajara Grill – West, 1220 E Prince Road-520-323-1022 (also 2nd location: East, 750 N Kolb Road, 520-296-1122. We went to the one on Prince the very last night we were in Tucson 2013. Large parking lot that was FULL! It took us 15 minutes or more to find a parking place … then about 30-45 minutes to get a table … BUT it was more than worth the wait! HUGE portions of GREAT food at reasonable prices! You WILL enjoy it! * La Fuente Restaurant, 1749 N. Oracle Rd., 520-623-8659 REALLY good Mexican/Tex-Mex food. The lunch buffet is very good and very reasonable. If you're there for dinner, be sure to order the Guacamole made table-side. It is VERY GOOD! * Silver Saddle Steak House, 6th Ave. I-10 (310 E. Benson Highway), 520-622-6253 This place is near downtown and has some of the best steak that I've had in Tucson. If you're going for dinner, it is best to get there early or be prepared to wait 30 minutes to an hour. It IS worth the wait! I do not think that they take reservations. We ate at Silver Saddle at least twice in 2013 … and probably will top that this year! * Lil Abner's Steakhouse, 8501 N Silverbell Rd., 520-744-2800 This is a MUST for Tucson show visitors. I remember going there a lot
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomical Prices of Meteorites in Korea StillControversial
Just greedy people and part of the fault lies with the Korean government. They promoted super high values while trying to prevent an American from taking any of the stones. Let them not get anything. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: $700.00 a gram for an ordinary fall? I think $5.00 a gram is more realistic. One of the images looks like iron ore to me. Perhaps they have not taken into account that the U.S. Dollar is strengthening now that the lame Fed no longer manipulates currency with the stupid Quantitative Easing idea. Maybe, they are overprinting the Korean Won! I have a feeling the current owners aren't selling much. Adam - Original Message - From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:23 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Astronomical Prices of Meteorites in Korea StillControversial Hello Listers 24 million dollar meteorite in the name of science, for everything else, there's MasterCard ... SEOUL, Dec 30 (Korea Bizwire) – The 4.5 billion-year-old meteorites that fell in Jinju city, South Korea in March 2013 are having a hard time entering Korean scientific research circles due to their owners’ excessive compensation demands. The Korean Government is attempting to purchase the meteorites for use in scientific research. In March 2013, four meteorites weighing 35 kilograms in total fell on a farming site in Jinju. They are as old as the sun, and the first meteorites to land on the Korean peninsula in 71 years. The Korean Government announced that it would buy the meteorites to benefit Korean scientific research communities, and to prevent the rare celestial objects from being sold to foreign collectors. However, the current owners of the four meteorites are demanding more than 27 billion won (US$ 24.5 million) in compensation. Meteorites of 35 kilograms are usually sold for around 180 million won (US$ 163,526) on the international market. Source: http://koreabizwire.com/astronomical-prices-of-meteorites-in-korea-still-controversial/27193 Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomical Prices of Meteorites in Korea Still Controversial
Ha ha, Robert Ward was there, offered high enough price for chondrite. Government shut him down and put out stupid prices in the news to try and keep him mom being able to pay for them. Now they reap what they sow, with greedy owners demanding millions of $$$ for them. It is what they deserve. Pay up. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Dec 31, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Mike Groetz via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: http://koreabizwire.com/astronomical-prices-of-meteorites-in-korea-still-controversial/27193 SEOUL, Dec 30 (Korea Bizwire) – The 4.5 billion-year-old meteorites that fell in Jinju city, South Korea in March 2013 are having a hard time entering Korean scientific research circles due to their owners’ excessive compensation demands. The Korean Government is attempting to purchase the meteorites for use in scientific research. In March 2013, four meteorites weighing 35 kilograms in total fell on a farming site in Jinju. They are as old as the sun, and the first meteorites to land on the Korean peninsula in 71 years. The Korean Government announced that it would buy the meteorites to benefit Korean scientific research communities, and to prevent the rare celestial objects from being sold to foreign collectors. However, the current owners of the four meteorites are demanding more than 27 billion won (US$ 24.5 million) in compensation. Meteorites of 35 kilograms are usually sold for around 180 million won (US$ 163,526) on the international market. The Korean Government offered the owners 350 million won (US$ 318,041), about twice the going marketprice. While the government’s offer was reasonable, the owners have so far refused to accept it. Meanwhile, a revised bill related to space development law was passed in a plenary session on December 29. The revised bill contains articles preventing meteorites found in Korea from being taken out of Korea, and also the establishment of a meteorite registration system. Meteorites found in Korea will be registered by the minister of Science, ICT and Future Planning, and their status will continuously be tracked. The bill will be applied retroactively in the case of the Jinju meteorites. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Prices from 1891
Those prices in 1891 were super expensive, you could buy a house for $1000. If you checked online and see what $1 was worth in today's $ I think it would be incredible. Actually here it is. $1 back then would equal $26 today. http://www.davemanuel.com/inflation-calculator.php Sent from my iPad On Dec 30, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Listers I wish I was alive around 1891 with this prices for meteorites. enjoy Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com Meteorite prices from the American Journal of Science from 1891 link: https://books.google.com/books?id=6oU7AQAAMAAJpg=PA516lpg=PA516dq=nerft+meteorite+for+salesource=blots=qNMUA7EyR0sig=x5Eo5Xr5KxJfEyC7KpDVr6Mx_wUhl=ensa=Xei=vweiVL02gpfIBKHbgsgDved=0CIcBEOgBMBM#v=onepageq=nerft%20meteorite%20for%20salef=false __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Prices from 1891
That's the only one I looked at, who knows if it is valid. Michael Farmer On Dec 30, 2014, at 8:03 PM, hall h...@meteorhall.com wrote: However, that does not apply to housing. Where in the USA can you buy a house for $26,000? Well, maybe Detroit. Happy New Year to all! Fred Hall On December 30, 2014 at 7:37 PM Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Those prices in 1891 were super expensive, you could buy a house for $1000. If you checked online and see what $1 was worth in today's $ I think it would be incredible. Actually here it is. $1 back then would equal $26 today. http://www.davemanuel.com/inflation-calculator.php Sent from my iPad On Dec 30, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Listers I wish I was alive around 1891 with this prices for meteorites. enjoy Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com Meteorite prices from the American Journal of Science from 1891 link: https://books.google.com/books?id=6oU7AQAAMAAJpg=PA516lpg=PA516dq=nerft+meteorite+for+salesource=blots=qNMUA7EyR0sig=x5Eo5Xr5KxJfEyC7KpDVr6Mx_wUhl=ensa=Xei=vweiVL02gpfIBKHbgsgDved=0CIcBEOgBMBM#v=onepageq=nerft%20meteorite%20for%20salef=false __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update - Lunars, Martian, HED's, Achondrites
The Dhofar Lunars are mine:) I found them. They were taken from me in Oman. Michael Farmer On Dec 29, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I was wondering why you announce the same Lunar and Martian meteorites time and time again? I check the links to discover these were announced months ago and are not new discoveries. It makes it appear that new finds are being found on a weekly bases. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 7:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update - Lunars, Martian, HED's,Achondrites Hi Bulletin Watchers, There are 10 new approvals, including 3 Lunars and a Martian. Link : http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=%2Asfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=2pnt=Normal%20tabledr=page=0 Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MBIQ detects UK Fireball; apparently widely seen by 100s reports pending 24DEC2014
Barwell two! Michael Farmer On Dec 24, 2014, at 11:14 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: List, MBIQ detects UK Fireball; apparently widely seen by 100s reports pending http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/12/mbiq-detects-uk-fireball-meteor.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Most expensive watches of the year -Meteoritewatch priced over 4M.
Poor economy? Stock market crashing through record highs, GDP growth of 5% this year, best since 2003, fuel prices collapsing, unemployment rate lowest in 10 years. What planet are you living on? Turn off Fox News. Michael Farmer On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Yes, I have witnessed or heard first-hand of this type of greed and lack of respect for others honest work for decades. It only seems to be getting worse accelerated by a poor economy. This watch company is just an example on the high-end of the spectrum. One of my friends, who was working on a survey vessel, witnessed a seaplane wreck on Lake Washington and rerouted it to the rescue. Inside the wreckage was none other than John Nordstrom who was more concerned with salvaging his briefcase than rescuing his wife. I will not let my wife buy her shoes or boots from Nordstrom's knowing how unsavory they are. On the other end, I have given people the opportunity to make an honest dollar several times but it never ceases to amaze me how quickly they burn out from a little bit of hard work and try to find shortcuts (entitlements and outright stealing). Plagiarism and theft are one and the same as far as I am concerned. In the once fine,avocation of meteorite collecting, piggy-backing, plagiarism, lack of honoring commitments, material swapping and theft have become all too common for my tastes. I could write a book on the subject but feel it would be better to focus on other pursuits. Adam - Original Message - From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Most expensive watches of the year -Meteoritewatch priced over 4M. I can confirm what Adam has related. The Ambassador slice encased in it's cutting edge engineered, airtight portal was, for a short time, the most extraordinary object entrusted to me, The piece was perfect in every presentation. He who designed the portal was a genius and what was presented and contained within was the most intensely recognizable, inspiriring slice of the Moon I will ever see in my life. To hold it in my arms and gaze at this enormoous, unblemished, priceless, celestial object was akin to having a sexual experience. The idiots who didn't have the education, intellect, or sensitivity to realize what they were trying to steal from Adam will remain just thatidiots. Seasons Greetings to all, Count Deiro Imca 3536 MetCom -Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Dec 22, 2014 8:31 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Most expensive watches of the year - Meteoritewatch priced over 4M. Yes, I proposed the idea to Louis Moinet about a watch with a lunar face using NWA 5000 which actually looks like the Moon. They copied my Jules Verne portal design and name after I provided them with images of the first slice of NWA 5000. The first complete slice of NW 5000 was mounted in a custom machined case which looked like a portal. I renamed the piece from the Jules Verne Slice to the Ambassador Slice after being plagiarized by this watch company. They named their first lunar watch the Jules Verne and even had a mini-portal in the side of it to view a tiny cheap piece of a Dhofar lunar meteorite. Dhofar lunar specimens were the least expensive at the time and yet they want millions of dollars for the watches. How original? Adam - Original Message - From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:43 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Most expensive watches of the year - Meteoritewatch priced over 4M. Hello Listers For those of you looking for the must have item for Xmas, look no further (: Enjoy Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com Most expensive watches of the year THERE’S NOTHING that conveys your financial status more than what you wear on your wrist. The world of luxurious timepieces has expanded in recent times as technology, innovation and ornamentation combine to produce watches that are truly unique and spell class and elegance apart from money. Notably, the brand that features the most is Patek Phillippe, but not as number one. Venture Capital Post has listed the 10 most expensive watches sold across the globe in 2014: *** Louis Moinet Meteoris watch: The history attached to this watch is what makes it so valuable. Designer Moinet decided to use pieces
Re: [meteorite-list] Most expensive watches of the year -Meteoritewatch priced over 4M.
Adam, you live in a palace where the only industry is gambling. When economy dropped, so did gambling. People learned quickly how to live within their means, and gambling became a luxury most couldn't afford. Laughlin is the low end spectrum of gambling, a sad casino scene for the 70+ age group and $1.99 buffets. Next time but a house in a less speculative place. Michael Farmer On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Simply ask how many people are better off these days. Nearly 50% of the houses in my neighborhood are vacant and remain on the market. In a booming economy these houses would be occupied! I do not listen to false reports and twisted numbers. I observe what is really happening. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Most expensive watches of the year -Meteoritewatch priced over 4M. Poor economy? Stock market crashing through record highs, GDP growth of 5% this year, best since 2003, fuel prices collapsing, unemployment rate lowest in 10 years. What planet are you living on? Turn off Fox News. Michael Farmer On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Yes, I have witnessed or heard first-hand of this type of greed and lack of respect for others honest work for decades. It only seems to be getting worse accelerated by a poor economy. This watch company is just an example on the high-end of the spectrum. One of my friends, who was working on a survey vessel, witnessed a seaplane wreck on Lake Washington and rerouted it to the rescue. Inside the wreckage was none other than John Nordstrom who was more concerned with salvaging his briefcase than rescuing his wife. I will not let my wife buy her shoes or boots from Nordstrom's knowing how unsavory they are. On the other end, I have given people the opportunity to make an honest dollar several times but it never ceases to amaze me how quickly they burn out from a little bit of hard work and try to find shortcuts (entitlements and outright stealing). Plagiarism and theft are one and the same as far as I am concerned. In the once fine,avocation of meteorite collecting, piggy-backing, plagiarism, lack of honoring commitments, material swapping and theft have become all too common for my tastes. I could write a book on the subject but feel it would be better to focus on other pursuits. Adam - Original Message - From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Most expensive watches of the year -Meteoritewatch priced over 4M. I can confirm what Adam has related. The Ambassador slice encased in it's cutting edge engineered, airtight portal was, for a short time, the most extraordinary object entrusted to me, The piece was perfect in every presentation. He who designed the portal was a genius and what was presented and contained within was the most intensely recognizable, inspiriring slice of the Moon I will ever see in my life. To hold it in my arms and gaze at this enormoous, unblemished, priceless, celestial object was akin to having a sexual experience. The idiots who didn't have the education, intellect, or sensitivity to realize what they were trying to steal from Adam will remain just thatidiots. Seasons Greetings to all, Count Deiro Imca 3536 MetCom -Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Dec 22, 2014 8:31 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Most expensive watches of the year - Meteoritewatch priced over 4M. Yes, I proposed the idea to Louis Moinet about a watch with a lunar face using NWA 5000 which actually looks like the Moon. They copied my Jules Verne portal design and name after I provided them with images of the first slice of NWA 5000. The first complete slice of NW 5000 was mounted in a custom machined case which looked like a portal. I renamed the piece from the Jules Verne Slice to the Ambassador Slice after being plagiarized by this watch company. They named their first lunar watch the Jules Verne and even had a mini-portal in the side of it to view a tiny cheap piece of a Dhofar lunar meteorite. Dhofar lunar specimens were the least expensive at the time and yet they want millions of dollars for the watches. How original? Adam - Original Message - From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite
[meteorite-list] Detained at LAX for Esquel
I was detained at LAX today, my bags searched, all my Esquel confiscated. Argentine police/embassy people waiting on my flight arrival with Homeland Security! I was taken into custody by a Japanese/American undercover officer. After 4 hours, I was released minus 2 kg esquel. No information except they were looking for anything from Argentina, especially Esquel. Esquel is perfectly legal, but of course Argentina now seems to want it all back. I'll fight them in court. It was exported legally when I was in middle school! Be warned that something is going on. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Detained at LAX today.
I was detained at LAX today, my bags searched, all my Esquel confiscated. Argentine police/embassy people waiting on my flight arrival with Homeland Security! I was taken into custody by a Japanese/American undercover officer. After 4 hours, I was released minus 2 kg esquel. No information except they were looking for anything from Argentina, especially Esquel. Esquel is perfectly legal, but of course Argentina now seems to want it all back. I'll fight them in court. It was exported legally when I was in middle school! Be warned that something is going on. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List
On 12/8/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. Sent from my iPad On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION Hi All, Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a Greenhouse, etc. Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes To importing plants. SNIPOLA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List
Check out Florida's orange crop. Right now massive die off of millions of orange trees due to imported virus. Ask those farmers how happy they are that someone brought in a plant with a virus that is now costing them (and taxpayers) billions of dollars. Sent from my iPad On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:05 PM, Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: For those that don't live in the US, You try and send us flowers, all hell will break out. And lord help us all if the flowers have dirt on them, we will go into a level 2 alert. However, we welcome Ebola and other nasty stuff!We are just a little different! That is all. Jim -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List
That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. Sent from my iPad On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION Hi All, Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a Greenhouse, etc. Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes To importing plants. I have taken to growing cuttings of Plumeria - the Tropical plant that produces the flowers used in Hawaii for Leis. There are some very exciting hybrids being grown in Thailand. However, though all of the other 49 states allow Importation, CA refuses - even though all cuttings have been Submerged in malathion for 30 minutes, have a governmental Declaration of same and no creature or fungus or the like could Ever survive even a 30 second dunk in the stuff. So, what I need is a friend on the list who is willing to receive Shipping and re-box them and send to me Registered Mail. Of course, I will pay all costs and get the person Free Priority Mail boxes and prepaid shipping labels So they do not have to stand in line at the post office or Anything like that. Just sign for the package, slip it in The Priority Mail box, print the prepaid label and drop It off at a post office without waiting in line. This needs to be someone in a state other than CA And is home to sign for the boxes when they arrive (a few times). If anyone is willing to do this for me I will cover all expenses And express my gratitude with a nice meteorite specimen. Please contact me off list and change the subject box So it does not read Meteorite List Thanks for your consideration, Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List
My only problem with California drivers is that they all stay in left lane no matter how slow they are going. I passed a thousand or more cars in the right lane because it is always clear. California has every right to try to protect it's agriculture. By the way, Australia is same, checkpoints at Western Australia border and all produce destroyed. Michael Farmer On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Average gasoline prices in Arizona ($2.57/gal) are about 13% lower than California ($2.97). How does that 13% difference turn into an almost 100% (claimed) increase in your fill-up? California has more than 3 times the lane-miles of Arizona and it's drivers account for 11% of ALL of the miles driven in the entire country (more than 5 times Arizona drivers, and we have a lower fatality rate because no one from Arizona can drive worth a damn), so yes, our roads do get used and abused and could use some love. Believe it or not, road maintenance is what the fuel tax is used for, we just have a lot more roads that need maintaining. And most produce comes from California. And by most we're talking a huge majority. Some comes from Mexico, some from other places, too, but California is our nation's produce isle. Michael is so. Cal. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I do stay out of California unless managing one of my over-taxed investment properties.. It cost nearly twice as much to fill up my gas tank there as it does in Arizona. They were the first state to have a major city go bankrupt demonstrating their ability to manage taxpayer funds. I do not know what they do with the nations highest fuel tax. It sure isn't put into the roads. I will not drive at night in parts of California since they can't even afford to paint the lanes or put up reflectors. I once went airborne at night while pulling my enclosed car hauler trailer since California was too cheap to mark a raised railroad crossing. I have seen better roads in third-world countries. As far as produce goes, most of it now comes from Mexico. Again, no thanks, Adam Drive at your own risk - Original Message - From: Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact protections as tough as California. Don't like it, then stay out of my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether, chances are they were grown here). Michael in so. Cal. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: That's California for you. Too much governmental control and wasted tax payer money. They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap! I can tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the condition of the roads and the agricultural check points. First you go from a smooth freeway into a patched together, multi-colored, quilted road surface with no shoulders and than go through the indignity of an inspection station just have any American grown produce thrown in the trash. No thanks! Adam - Original Message - From: Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List Keeping this meteorite related, the California bug stations even look for firewood coming in from other states. So for example you are planning a meteorite hunting trip into or through California and figure you would like to haul some firewood with you, you might want to know that they may or will seize it at the border inspection stations. Jim Wooddell On 12/8/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. Sent from my iPad On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION Hi All, Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a Greenhouse, etc. Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes To importing plants. SNIPOLA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List
If it is a crime to get a plant imported into California, then it is a crime to circumvent the law by trying to move it through another state. Furthermore anyone would be an idiot to accept a package from overseas for someone else and resend it. Let's see, it could contain drugs, kiddie porn, or any number of other illegal things, then guess what, they have become a drug smuggler. Hey, can you take my suitcase though customs buddy, really, there's only some flowers inside:) Not cool. Michael Farmer On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: Hi Mike, To the best of my knowledge, shipping within the US Is in no way a violation of law. Thanks, though, for your concern, Mike. Best regards, Michael On 12/8/14 5:51 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. Sent from my iPad On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION Hi All, Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a Greenhouse, etc. Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes To importing plants. I have taken to growing cuttings of Plumeria - the Tropical plant that produces the flowers used in Hawaii for Leis. There are some very exciting hybrids being grown in Thailand. However, though all of the other 49 states allow Importation, CA refuses - even though all cuttings have been Submerged in malathion for 30 minutes, have a governmental Declaration of same and no creature or fungus or the like could Ever survive even a 30 second dunk in the stuff. So, what I need is a friend on the list who is willing to receive Shipping and re-box them and send to me Registered Mail. Of course, I will pay all costs and get the person Free Priority Mail boxes and prepaid shipping labels So they do not have to stand in line at the post office or Anything like that. Just sign for the package, slip it in The Priority Mail box, print the prepaid label and drop It off at a post office without waiting in line. This needs to be someone in a state other than CA And is home to sign for the boxes when they arrive (a few times). If anyone is willing to do this for me I will cover all expenses And express my gratitude with a nice meteorite specimen. Please contact me off list and change the subject box So it does not read Meteorite List Thanks for your consideration, Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List
Of course it is, if in order to get around local laws! Arizona has very high-priced cigarette taxes. People were buying by mail and having them sent from other states. Lots of people went to prison for smuggling. Good luck with that. Michael Farmer On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi Mike, To the best of my knowledge, shipping within the US Is in no way a violation of law. Thanks, though, for your concern, Mike. Best regards, Michael On 12/8/14 5:51 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. Sent from my iPad On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION Hi All, Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a Greenhouse, etc. Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes To importing plants. I have taken to growing cuttings of Plumeria - the Tropical plant that produces the flowers used in Hawaii for Leis. There are some very exciting hybrids being grown in Thailand. However, though all of the other 49 states allow Importation, CA refuses - even though all cuttings have been Submerged in malathion for 30 minutes, have a governmental Declaration of same and no creature or fungus or the like could Ever survive even a 30 second dunk in the stuff. So, what I need is a friend on the list who is willing to receive Shipping and re-box them and send to me Registered Mail. Of course, I will pay all costs and get the person Free Priority Mail boxes and prepaid shipping labels So they do not have to stand in line at the post office or Anything like that. Just sign for the package, slip it in The Priority Mail box, print the prepaid label and drop It off at a post office without waiting in line. This needs to be someone in a state other than CA And is home to sign for the boxes when they arrive (a few times). If anyone is willing to do this for me I will cover all expenses And express my gratitude with a nice meteorite specimen. Please contact me off list and change the subject box So it does not read Meteorite List Thanks for your consideration, Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Very nice piece Beat, I recognize it:) Michael Farmer On Dec 1, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Tirhert Contributed by: Beat Booz http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=12/01/2014 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] M 009
If it was in Ron Hartman's collection, perhaps it came from Michael Cottingham. Michael Farmer On Nov 27, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Robert Verish via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi Bernd and All, Thanks for the many leads and suggestions that you have given me, Bernd, but I'm starting to accept the possibility that the M (with a line through it) signifies that it is a Meteor-wrong. :-( Which would explain why it was in the Ron Hartman Collection without a label. The negative evidence against that supposition is that M001. thru M008. are nowhere to be found. But this M009. may have been the best of the lot; a real keeper. The kind that you save for those games of one-up-man-ship when the hunters sit around the campfire and talk about the heartbreakers that didn't pan-out. You think that ones purrty, take a gander at this beauty, boys! If I'm at a dead-end on this one, I guess I'll have to make a thin-section to confirm ID. But then again, if I convince myself that this is just a limy siltstone with a small patch of psilomelane coating the exterior, a cheaper/quicker method of IDing would be to take a small chip and dissolve the carbonate matrix in acid, then examine whatever silicate grains remain under a microscope. I expect I'll see quartz. :-( In any case, I'll report back the results to satisfy anyone's remaining curiosity. And yes, of course, I will cancel my M009. auction : http://tinyurl.com/pclbfg2 Again, thanks to everyone for their ID help with the label, and for those in the US Happy Thanksgiving, Bob V. On Thursday, November 27, 2014 3:17 AM, Bernd V. Pauli via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Could the M stand for one of these persons? Mike Martinez Mike Miller Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] M_009.
No chance that's agoult, could be similar but not paired. I owned a lot of agoult. Sent from my iPad On Nov 26, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Bernd V. Pauli via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Bob, Moni, List, I concur. It sure does look like a eucrite, and, if it is very friable, it might even be Agoult or an Agoult pairing! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What have we here.
A clever and well done fake but clearly a fake. Michael Farmer On Nov 21, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Count Deiro via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Says it was filmed on the 19th. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4d2_1416584050 Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Kiev Ukraine Bolide Meteor 1957UTC 21NOV2014
Donetsk is the scene of the worst fighting in the Russian/Ukraine war. Anyone want to bet just a missile or bomb attack? Not a meteorite. Michael Farmer Michael Farmer On Nov 21, 2014, at 2:32 PM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: List. A beautiful one in Kiev, Ukraine! Kiev, Ukraine Bolide Meteor 1957 UTC 21NOV2014 w/ video http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/11/kiev-ukraine-bolide-meteor-21nov2014-w.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MASSSIVE Russian Event Asteroid? 14NOV2014
Yekaterinburg is a city of millions, and is also known as Tankograd because of the massive military industry there, WWII forced all military production and testing over the Urals mountains to protect from German invasion. I was there and everywhere you look there are military bases and tanks on the roads, jets flying overhead, artillery pieces lined up on the trains etc. Nuclear, chemical, biological weapons testing is all done in this region. This even was surely military in nature, regardless of whether the Russian military pretends it has no idea what it was. A video showing the explosion on the ground has been found, so whatever the event was, it wasn't a meteorite fall. Michel Farmer Sent from my iPad On Nov 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Ben, List, There may be a confusion in some reports. There is a city named Sverdlovsk in eastern Ukraine (now held by the separatists) but also a Sverdlovsk Oblast (or federal district) far to the east in Russia (ocated on the eastern slopes of the Middle and North Urals and the Western Siberian Plain): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_Oblast This where this event took place. The city of Sverdlovsk there is now called Ekaterinburg. It was the home town of Boris Yeltsin, I believe. Sterling Webb -Original Message- From: Ben Fisler [mailto:fisler...@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:26 AM To: Sterling K. Webb Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] MASSSIVE Russian Event Asteroid? 14NOV2014 Hi Stirling, There was a similar event that took place in the Ukraine in the same 24 hour period. I have seen the video, and there is a pulse of light before the main event, just as the event in Russia. Best Regards, Ben Fisler, Phoenix Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2014, at 10:52 PM, Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Marcin, List The Sverdlovsk region is quite isolated and dense with weapon development centers of all kinds. In 1979, a germ warfare agent, aerosolized anthrax spores, escaped from a laboratory where they were being manufactured in weaponized form and killed an uncertain number of people (~100?). http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/plague/sverdlovsk/ and http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ussr-anthrax-outbreak-still-a-mystery/ A local news site suggests there's an old chemical plant outside the nearby town of Rezh, the explosion of which would be consistent with this phenomenon, and one local on the forum of Astronomy.ru wrote there were also reports of the military setting off ammunition. http://www.nbcnews.com/science/weird-science/meteor-ufo-flash-over-russia-ma y-have-earthly-origin-n251081 Maybe they had to sterilize something? In any case, it's very unlikely this was a natural celestial event, I'm afraid. Sterling Webb -- -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of PolandMET via Meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:07 AM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] MASSSIVE Russian Event Asteroid? 14NOV2014 Hi We all like to have Chellyabinsk x10 ofcourse but my first feeling was nuclear explosion. Also there seems to be fog or dense clouds so the whole flash will be false. But yes, this could be just big explosion in factory. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] I think some kind of explosion, aircraft or chemical plant. Meteor would be faster and move. This was something else I think. Michael Farmer On Nov 18, 2014, at 10:05 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: List, What ever it was you will not want to miss these videos! http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/11/russia-super-bolide - asteroid-strike.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3
Re: [meteorite-list] Russian Event non-meteor 14NOV2014
I said yesterday it was not a meteorite. Something huge blew up. Silence from Russian media. Their military is really ramping things up. Seems like bad news to me. Michael Farmer On Nov 19, 2014, at 9:35 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: List, I have posted a 3rd video which it the most important of the 3; also update on analysis. http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/11/russia-super-bolide-asteroid-strike.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MASSSIVE Russian Event Asteroid? 14NOV2014
Come on! I just flew over all of Siberia today! Michael Farmer On Nov 18, 2014, at 10:05 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: List, What ever it was you will not want to miss these videos! http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/11/russia-super-bolide-asteroid-strike.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MASSSIVE Russian Event Asteroid? 14NOV2014
I think some kind of explosion, aircraft or chemical plant. Meteor would be faster and move. This was something else I think. Michael Farmer On Nov 18, 2014, at 10:05 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: List, What ever it was you will not want to miss these videos! http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/11/russia-super-bolide-asteroid-strike.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Texas Fireball on CNN
Almost certainly. I've been reading Mexican news all day, plenty of news about massive sonic booms and explosions, thousands of people calling police etc. something big came down. Very dangerous place as usual. Michael Farmer Michael Farmer On Nov 9, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi List, Any chance this is a fall? Link : http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/09/us/texas-fireball/index.html Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Arizona fireball
Just sa a great fireball about 15 minutes ago. Only saw the beginning of it before it disappeared behind the neighbors house, was east of Tucson heading down and east. michael Farmer Sent from my iPad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Arizona fireball
Tried to email list, blocked. I saw great fireball about 15 minutes ago. East of Tucson and heading east. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Nov 9, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Matson, Rob D. robert.d.mat...@leidos.com wrote: Check that -- more data is coming in and the later Texas event may have managed to stay on this side of the border. I've given up trying to find it in radar, but will check seismographs to see if any picked up a sonic boom to help narrow down the location. The earlier Texas event does appear to be firmly within Texas. I don't think I'll have time to look at that one tonight... --Rob From: Meteorite-list [meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] on behalf of Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list [meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com] Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 4:15 PM To: Graham Ensor Cc: Meteorite List; Michael Farmer Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Texas Fireball on CNN Hi Graham -- no, no chance it's in Texas. By the way, this is the later event in Texas. There was another fireball 15 minutes earlier; I haven't looked at that one at all. --Rob From: Meteorite-list [meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] on behalf of Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list [meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com] Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 2:54 PM To: Matson, Rob D. Cc: Meteorite List; Michael Farmer Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Texas Fireball on CNN Was it heading into Mexico from Texas then...no chance it landed in Texas? Graham On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Unfortunately, nothing on any of the five closest radars to the fall location. --Rob From: Meteorite-list [meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] on behalf of Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list [meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com] Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 2:17 PM To: Galactic Stone Ironworks Cc: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Texas Fireball on CNN Almost certainly. I've been reading Mexican news all day, plenty of news about massive sonic booms and explosions, thousands of people calling police etc. something big came down. Very dangerous place as usual. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sculptures from outer space
How does one see everything? Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Listers If you have some deep pockets check out some rare meteorites being sold next week starting on the 11 at Christy's auction house. Enjoy Rare, fascinating and beautiful, the meteorites in our upcoming online sale are coveted by science and art collectors alike Meteorites, the solid pieces of debris that fall to earth from comets or asteroids, can be over four billion years old. Yet only recently have they become hot property at auction. Scarce supply and increasing demand for aesthetic iron meteorites have generated a sharp rise in the market for sculptures from outer space. Christie’s is marking their popularity with a unique auction Deep Impact: Martian, Lunar and Other Rare Meteorites aimed at both the new buyer and the sophisticated collector, and spanning a wide spectrum of substance, size and continent. ‘These pieces have transcended their appeal from dedicated meteorite followers to the wider art market,’ says James Hyslop, Head of Science and Natural History at Christie’s. Here is our pick of five of the most beautiful and fascinating of the 30 collectibles being sold online at Christie’s between 11 and 25 November. http://www.christies.com/features/meteorites-5165-1.aspx Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Munich show book (Meteorites) report
Just let them buy 10 themselves and pay the $35 each:) Sent from my iPad On Nov 5, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello again, A List Member pointed out to me that the cost of the book is 28 euros, and that translates to $35, and then asked why I was asking for $45 for that book. Yes, 28 euros does translate to $35, however we all know that Paypal will not translate it quite to that, they will add a fee, and then most of you will be paying by Paypal, another fee, and I need to get a lot of padded envelopes so those books do not get damage in the mail. And that is not counting my time packing all that and all the trips to the Post Office. So I don't mind being helpful, and I do want a copy for myself, but really I would rather not lose any money on that deal. If any of you have a problem with this please do let me know as quickly as possible. Thank you. Up to 25 books at this time. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Nov 5, 2014 3:52 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Munich show book (Meteorites) report You are indeed interested!!! I am up to 20 books ordered. But don't stop there. Keep on emailing me if you want one too. I'll probably send my order to Munich sometime tomorrow evening. Thank you, Thank you to all of you who emailed me. I am making a list. I will let you know when I find out from the Munich Show when they plan on mailing the books, and when I am supposed to get them. Again thanks. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: msgmeteorites msgmeteori...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Nov 5, 2014 12:39 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Munich show book (Meteorites) report Thank you Martin for the recommendation. And thank you for all of you who asked for a book. We have the minimum 10 already. Now for the cost as some of you have asked. If you were to order just one it would cost you 28 euros plus 36 euros for shipping, so 64 euros, or $80 to $85 depending on the exchange rate. So I would like to ask you all for $45 per book plus whatever the postage will be from me to you. Is that acceptable? Do let me know as soon as possible. Thanks you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Martin Goff msgmeteori...@gmail.com To: Anne Black impact...@aol.com Cc: debfred debf...@att.net; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; dieter-heinlein dieter-heinl...@t-online.de Sent: Wed, Nov 5, 2014 11:45 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Munich show book (Meteorites) report Hi all, This book cones highly recommended. I have just recieved my copy and it is superb, the articles are excellent and the quality superb. Anyone in the US who wants to save on shipping costs I suggest join in with Anne as it is book that you will truly appreciate having. I am currently reading Martin Kappler's excellent Chelyabinsk article :-) Cheers Martin Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 Sent from my mobile phone On 5 Nov 2014 17:49, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Thank you Dieter. Since I want a book, and they accept Paypal, I am willing to order 10 of those books, so you won't have to wait until February and the Tucson Show to get it. But first, who wants one? Tell me as soon as possible and I'll send an order. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Dieter Heinlein via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: debfred debf...@att.net Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Nov 5, 2014 4:26 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Munich show book (Meteorites) report Hello Fred, thank you very much for your enthusiastic report about our Munich Show book. Since I have written seven articles (about 50 pages) and have edited the wohle meteorite part of this book, I'd like to make some additions, especially four our collector friends in the US. The 2014 Munich Show book METEORITES will be available at the Tucson Show 2015 at several booths. For those who don't want so long, maybe a collective order from the Munich Show web site https://munichshow.com/en/shop/the-show-catalogues/ is a good clue. The shipping costs for SINGLE book orders are very hight - but if more than ten copies are ordered, the shipping is totally free of charge (worldwide)! https://munichshow.com/en/shop/shipping-information/ Enjoy reading! Best regards Dieter - Original
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15
You do know that there are Air Force bases in Louisiana right? It could easily be sonic boom produced by jet. Sent from my iPad On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:28 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Marc and List, We have earwitness reports for what they are worth. Two persons reported that the sound seemed to come from the w / MW as it made the windows rattle on that side. The sky was overcast and at 1630 or so not many are going to be looking up. Thanks. Dirk...Tokyo - Original Message - From: FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-KT111) marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov To: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15 True! Sorry; what I meant to say was that there are no eyewitness reports -=of an actual meteor=-. Unless I¹ve missed something, this is true for all eyewitness reporting sites. Cheers, Marc Fries On 10/15/14, 10:10 AM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote: Marc, Thanks! Mystery plot continues BTW, the AMS is not the only data source regardless of what is advertised --- http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/ Dirk...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: [Geology2] Meteorite fragments discovered 20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic
Sorry but fake as crap, clearly ancient NWA meteorite. Pultusk stones are still being 150 years after the fall and they don't even look hardly weathers at all, same wet climate. Sorry but I call a scam, Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:53 PM, MEM via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141014142736.htm Meteorite fragments discovered 20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic Date: October 14, 2014 Source: Astronomy Astrophysics Summary: Scientists have discovered meteorite fragments 20 years after the corresponding bolide was seen in the skies of the Czech Republic. This discovery was made possible by reanalyzing the trajectory, which moved the impact line by 330 meters. Interestingly, the meteorites found on the ground are of different types, pointing to a parent asteroid of heterogeneous composition. First three Benešov meteorites found in April 2011, with metal detectors. From left to right: H5 chondrite of 1.56 g, LL3.5 chondrite of 7.72 g with achondrite clast, and LL3.5 chondrite of 1.99 g [2]. Credit: Image courtesy of Astronomy Astrophysics Astronomy Astrophysics is publishing the spectacular discovery of meteorite fragments 20 years after the corresponding bolide was seen in the skies of the Czech Republic. This discovery was made possible by reanalyzing the trajectory, which moved the impact line by 330 meters. Interestingly, the meteorites found on the ground are of different types, pointing to a parent asteroid of heterogeneous composition. Collisions of meter-sized meteoroids with Earth's atmosphere are relatively rare, occurring about 40 times a year. They cause very spectacular events, known as superbolides. One of the best known such events, the Benešov bolide, occurred on 7 May 1991 at 23h 03m 46s UT over the Czech Republic. It was recorded during systematic photographic observations by the European Fireball Network and certainly ended in a multiple meteorite fall, but no meteorite was found in the weeks and years after the fall, despite many attempts. In February 2011, nearly 20 years after the event, P. Spurný and his colleagues [1] measured the records again and analyzed the data with improved methods. This led to a new picture of the whole event with a revised atmospheric trajectory and a new impact location. This allowed the team to recover the Benešov meteorites, 20 years after the fall, exactly in the newly predicted area. It is the first time a meteorite is found so long after the bolide observation. The team found four small, highly-weathered meteorites with a total mass of 12 g. The probability that these four fragments come from different meteoroids and were found by chance at the same place is estimated to be 1 in 100,000 or less. Even more interestingly, these four meteorites are of three different mineralogical types. This means that the Benešov meteoroid was heterogeneous and contained at least three different types of material. After the Almahata Sitta fall, this is the second time that such a heterogeneous composition has been found. It raises the possibility that a significant fraction of all asteroids are heterogeneous and that they were strongly reprocessed by collisions with other asteroids in the main belt. Story Source: The above story is based on materials provided by Astronomy Astrophysics. Note: Materials may be edited for content and length. Journal Reference: 1. Pavel Spurný, Jakub Haloda, Jiří Borovička, Lukáš Shrbený, Patricie Halodová. Reanalysis of the Benešov bolide and recovery of polymict breccia meteorites – old mystery solved after 20 years. Astronomy Astrophysics, 2014; 570: A39 DOI: 10.1051/0004-6361/201424308 Astronomy Astrophysics. Meteorite fragments discovered 20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic. ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 14 October 2014. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141014142736.htm. . __,_._,___ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Czech meteorite fragments 20 years
Not to mention they are highly desert varnished, something never seen in a wet place, and different types. Whoever pulled this scam is pretty foolish. Michael Farmer Michael Farmer On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Paul Gessler via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Looks like something that was found sitting in a Moroccan sale bin for the last 20 years. They look a lot older than 20 years to me. Paul G -Original Message- From: MEM via Meteorite-list Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 4:53 PM To: Meteorite Mailing List Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: [Geology2] Meteorite fragments discovered 20years after bolide event in Czech Republic www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141014142736.htm Meteorite fragments discovered 20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic Date: October 14, 2014 Source: Astronomy Astrophysics Summary: Scientists have discovered meteorite fragments 20 years after the corresponding bolide was seen in the skies of the Czech Republic. This discovery was made possible by reanalyzing the trajectory, which moved the impact line by 330 meters. Interestingly, the meteorites found on the ground are of different types, pointing to a parent asteroid of heterogeneous composition. First three Benešov meteorites found in April 2011, with metal detectors. From left to right: H5 chondrite of 1.56 g, LL3.5 chondrite of 7.72 g with achondrite clast, and LL3.5 chondrite of 1.99 g [2]. Credit: Image courtesy of Astronomy Astrophysics Astronomy Astrophysics is publishing the spectacular discovery of meteorite fragments 20 years after the corresponding bolide was seen in the skies of the Czech Republic. This discovery was made possible by reanalyzing the trajectory, which moved the impact line by 330 meters. Interestingly, the meteorites found on the ground are of different types, pointing to a parent asteroid of heterogeneous composition. Collisions of meter-sized meteoroids with Earth's atmosphere are relatively rare, occurring about 40 times a year. They cause very spectacular events, known as superbolides. One of the best known such events, the Benešov bolide, occurred on 7 May 1991 at 23h 03m 46s UT over the Czech Republic. It was recorded during systematic photographic observations by the European Fireball Network and certainly ended in a multiple meteorite fall, but no meteorite was found in the weeks and years after the fall, despite many attempts. In February 2011, nearly 20 years after the event, P. Spurný and his colleagues [1] measured the records again and analyzed the data with improved methods. This led to a new picture of the whole event with a revised atmospheric trajectory and a new impact location. This allowed the team to recover the Benešov meteorites, 20 years after the fall, exactly in the newly predicted area. It is the first time a meteorite is found so long after the bolide observation. The team found four small, highly-weathered meteorites with a total mass of 12 g. The probability that these four fragments come from different meteoroids and were found by chance at the same place is estimated to be 1 in 100,000 or less. Even more interestingly, these four meteorites are of three different mineralogical types. This means that the Benešov meteoroid was heterogeneous and contained at least three different types of material. After the Almahata Sitta fall, this is the second time that such a heterogeneous composition has been found. It raises the possibility that a significant fraction of all asteroids are heterogeneous and that they were strongly reprocessed by collisions with other asteroids in the main belt. Story Source: The above story is based on materials provided by Astronomy Astrophysics. Note: Materials may be edited for content and length. Journal Reference: 1. Pavel Spurný, Jakub Haloda, Jiří Borovička, Lukáš Shrbený, Patricie Halodová. Reanalysis of the Benešov bolide and recovery of polymict breccia meteorites – old mystery solved after 20 years. Astronomy Astrophysics, 2014; 570: A39 DOI: 10.1051/0004-6361/201424308 Astronomy Astrophysics. Meteorite fragments discovered 20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic. ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 14 October 2014. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141014142736.htm. . __,_._,___ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 4031/7891 - Release Date: 10/15/14 __ Visit
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: [Geology2] Meteorite fragments discovered 20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic
Regardless, it would take far more evidence to suggest such a thing, not desert varnished ancient meteorites supposedly found only 20 years after a fall. No one in their right mind would think these are only 20 years old. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: True, but it is quite rare. I cannot think of another example right off-hand. Are there any others? -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 10/15/14, Anne Black impact...@aol.com wrote: Not necessarily. For instance: All kinds of different lithologies in Almahata Sitta. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Anne Black impact...@aol.com Cc: mike m...@meteoriteguy.com; mstreman53 mstrema...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 6:30 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: [Geology2] Meteorite fragments discovered 20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic Another red flag - two different types in the same fall. An H5 and an LL3.5 would suggest two different parent bodies. -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 10/15/14, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: You could also compare them to Holbrooks, still found 100+ years after the fall. And No, they don't look right. Not buying either. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 5:55 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: [Geology2] Meteorite fragments discovered 20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic Sorry but fake as crap, clearly ancient NWA meteorite. Pultusk stones are still being 150 years after the fall and they don't even look hardly weathers at all, same wet climate. Sorry but I call a scam, Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:53 PM, MEM via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141014142736.htm Meteorite fragments discovered 20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic Date: October 14, 2014 Source: Astronomy Astrophysics Summary: Scientists have discovered meteorite fragments 20 years after the corresponding bolide was seen in the skies of the Czech Republic. This discovery was made possible by reanalyzing the trajectory, which moved the impact line by 330 meters. Interestingly, the meteorites found on the ground are of different types, pointing to a parent asteroid of heterogeneous composition. First three Benešov meteorites found in April 2011, with metal detectors. From left to right: H5 chondrite of 1.56 g, LL3.5 chondrite of 7.72 g with achondrite clast, and LL3.5 chondrite of 1.99 g [2]. Credit: Image courtesy of Astronomy Astrophysics Astronomy Astrophysics is publishing the spectacular discovery of meteorite fragments 20 years after the corresponding bolide was seen in the skies of the Czech Republic. This discovery was made possible by reanalyzing the trajectory, which moved the impact line by 330 meters. Interestingly, the meteorites found on the ground are of different types, pointing to a parent asteroid of heterogeneous composition. Collisions of meter-sized meteoroids with Earth's atmosphere are relatively rare, occurring about 40 times a year. They cause very spectacular events, known as superbolides. One of the best known such events, the Benešov bolide, occurred on 7 May 1991 at 23h 03m 46s UT over the Czech Republic. It was recorded during systematic photographic observations by the European Fireball Network and certainly ended in a multiple meteorite fall, but no meteorite was found in the weeks and years after the fall, despite many attempts. In February 2011, nearly 20 years after the event, P. Spurný and his colleagues [1] measured the records again and analyzed the data with improved methods. This led to a new picture of the whole event with a revised atmospheric trajectory and a new impact location. This allowed the team to recover the Benešov meteorites, 20 years after
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: 10/04/14 AZ Fireball: Sextant-Compass readings of Belmont, AZ smoke tr ail
I would be extraordinarily careful on the reservation, federally protected land, very very iffy hunting out there, not friendly or receptive people to outsiders, and legally could be a nightmare. That being said, I really hope it is found, just unsure of how it would all work out. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Oct 10, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: From: astror...@hotmail.com To: scho...@mybluelight.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] 10/04/14 AZ Fireball: Sextant-Compass readings of Belmont, AZ smoke tr ail Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 20:59:04 -0500 Hello Steve and all, Thanks for your hard work. When it comes down to a good starting point, say using Kayenta or Hwy 160 as a reference, where would you suggest? I'm going to try to get over to that area Sunday. If there is anyone that has begin a seach for this possible fall, give me a shout. Would like to see a new fall in this area, even though it may be on a Reservation. May have to brush up on my trading skills. Dennis Miller Northwest New Mexico astror...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 00:55:13 + To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] 10/04/14 AZ Fireball: Sextant-Compass readings of Belmont, AZ smoke tr ail From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello all, I took a trip out to the Belmont, AZ Weather Service and stood in front of the camera that took the photo of the smoke cloud 5 or 6 minutes after it had ended. I had the photo in hand to estimate to the best of my ability as to where the clouds were in the sky as related to Fremont Peak that morning. These clouds might have dissipated somewhat and drifted slightly to the south east 5 to 6 min after the fireball passed. I spent over an hour taking readings with my WWII Bendix A-7 sextant, and two WWI British prismatic compasses, averaging the readings of each. (BTW: these compasses are top notch, so good that they were used by sailors lost at sea to find destinations even without a sextant. The WWII Bendix A-7 is a fantastic sextant and very accurate as well) Readings from the compasses: (Magnetic) 35 - 36 degrees Easterly direction. Sextant, after estimating where the clouds were over Fremont Peak. Top cloud (larger one): 13.0 degrees above horizon. Bottom cloud (smaller one): 7.25 degrees above horizon. Average between both as the two clouds are linked in a chain ~8.6 degrees above horizon. The top cloud which is very dispersed after the six or so min after the fireball end at 15:52:32 represents the start of the fireball, and from reports it came in a a very steep angle ~45 degrees from the North East. This fireball was observed from the Belmont location and others West of Flagstaff including my all sky camera, as going DOWNWARD. If it rose up, or remained stationary instead of downward as it did, then it would appear heading toward and above the Belmont Weather station camera. In all sightings west of Flagstaff it went DOWNWARD and to the East. So the higher cloud appears higher in the sky due to the fact that the luminous flight began at about 60 miles or so. The smaller more defined cloud is the lower one to the ground maybe 15 to 20 miles above ground and closer to the Belmont Weather camera than the more distant larger dispersed portion of the smoke cloud. Do the trig. 13, 7.25 degrees above the horizon and an average between the two above the horizon taking into account the downward angle of the Fireball and the average assumed height between the beginning and the end of the event between 60 and 15 miles above the ground. The larger cloud is most likely over 120 miles away from the camera. The lower one most likely over 70 miles away from the camera. And the compass heading of 35-36 degrees is a magnetic heading, keeping in mind the magnetic variation of 10.5 degrees to East of the the Celestial Pole which is True North to which my all sky camera is aligned. Draw your lines accordingly from the Belmont Weather Station at Navajo Army Depot along that line of magnetic bearing 35-36 degrees average between the two 35.5 degrees. If you transpose to a map that is aligned to the true Celestial North, be sure to take into account the magnetic variation of 10.5 degrees in drawing the line. Steve Schoner. 2014 Best Skin Tighteners A Review List of The Top Performing Skin Tighteners In 2014 http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3331/54388043c33924301c8st02duc __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] good or bad behvior and honnor
The people you are mentioning are the ones buying the rock. Very confused as to who is robbing who. Who is the thief? Michael Farmer On Oct 4, 2014, at 3:17 AM, rachid chaoui via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Members List as you maybe saw in meteorite list and also in IMCA list many days ago, that there was an lunar Meteorite weigh 1345g was Stolen actually and I asked all friends to do not buy it since am the one who bought this piece ,the important questions here is: who stolen me? and why he did that? here is the story... Most of you know that it was an 5800g Lunar available here in Morocco, for sale for a long time and since the asking price was crazy and not acceptable ,i contacted my friends who know very well the owners and tried to convince him that the piece worth less than they ask and finally we come to an agreement due to the efforts of my friends ,we make appointment for payment and deliration in this time i contacted my friend who is in US for informed him that the deal is closed with the owner ,few hours after my client contacted me in order to tell me that he is felling not comfortable since HABIBI AZIZ contacted him saying the stone is his at this time i feel that something is wrong happening i contacted my friends in Gulmim to tell them the last news and if the owner still in his words about the deal, but unfortunately after some calls they told me that AZIZ HABIBI offer to them more than my offer and they sell the piece to HIM!!! so the same game again from the same guy I called AZIZ Habibi to tell him that it is bad behavior to offer more than my offer after closing deal and for to be candied his reply was polite . I send email to my client to informed him that the piece is with Habibi AZIZ and he should continue the deal with him and am not angry at all. From here the problems START since Habib AZIZ informed my friend in Gulmim who was the intermediate between me and the owner of this 5800g lunar that i was the seller of this piece and i got a very large margin from this deal and i should give him his part and all conversations between me and intermediate its just a games my friend became keep a major grudge of me and he wait just an opportunity for revenge .He offered me this 1345g lunar ,he sent me sample and i sent to Dr Tony Irving Who confirmed it as a Feldspatic Breecia we make appointment for payment and deliration I drove to Guilmim to get the Stone, I gave the Money to the Person with whom I dealed and I knew him very well because I dealed with him many times. The Person get the money and he drove to the Camp of the Nomad to bring the stone. I stayed in Guilmim waiting for him, He told me that it's 2 hours driving. After 5 hours waiting , I tried to reach him but no way, I thought it's a Problem of the Network. I went to his house, his Family don't know nothing about him , but when I Met his Brother , his behavior was too Strange which Pushed me to think that something really bad happen with the Stone , I stayed in Guilmim trying the whole Day and Night to reach him . I passed the most stressful day in my life with my brother who was with me . In Saturday morning, I called another person who has a Car 4/4 in order to search in the desert I thought maybe something happened with the car , we don't know where we search but I couldn't stay any more calling so we just drove in the desert , suddenly I was surprised that his phone is reachable. He Told me that the Money are safe and he just found the nomad quit their Place and he tried to reach them. i was little Bit reassured when I heard his voice. After half an hour , I tried to reach him again but no way , in Saturday Afternoon , he called me, He Told me : '' I got 1345g Lunar instead of 5800g Lunar ' I didn't understand nothing , at the same time I didn't know what to do. I contacted some of the dealers in Guilmim about what happened, and they told me that he believe that I Sold the 5800g Lunar and Not Habibi Aziz. , and he thought that I got money and didn't give him his part . I called AZIZ Habibi and i was very very nervous with him, Honestly he told me that he will help me to get the stone ,i called all dealers Moroccan friends Aid Mohamed ,Ali Oulmaleh ,Sbai Mohamed who was in Denver show and Adam Aaronson etc in order to ask them that they shouldn't buy this piece since it is stolen, few days AZIZ Habibi called me to informed me that the piece is still available and it is with the finder and the thief did not buy it , i was surprised when Habibi send me pics of the piece and he told me that someone send them to him month ago via WATTS AP but he did not take care to them because he thought its just terrestrial rock I told him that i should buy this piece and he said again that he will help me since he know the OWNERS. He make appointment with the owner in Agadir. I came
Re: [meteorite-list] aziz habibi and his bad behavior
I've been dealing with the same games for years. I'm done with them. Morocco business is turning very bad these days. Michael Farmer Michael Farmer On Oct 2, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Aid Mohamed via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello listers A professor called me in order to show me a person who has an lunar stone, when I see it, its weigh 1345g .i was travelling by my car around 1000 km, when i meet the Owner of lunar stone we confirmed deal on Saturday ,he want the money cash but on saturday and sunday the bank was closed,but surely we are confirmed the deal and we have an appointement to pay them on monday cash. When i know the weight of this stone i remember that Rachid Chaoui have a probleme with same weight lunar stone,as will as i called Rachid to told him all informations about this stone, then I know that is same stone that Rachid Chaoui has an problem about ,and I decide to buy it for Rachid. The big probleme is when Aziz Habibi know that I confirmed the deal he contact the owner and he said for him that he will pay more for it, On Monday morning I bring the total amount, I meet the owner and he said that the deal was cancelled there are who can pay more Si Listers, What do you think about this Habibi's games? best regards Aid __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Climate Change
What is this crap? I can't even get meteorite posts through and now we have idiotic propaganda on the list? Michael Farmer On Sep 22, 2014, at 7:33 AM, BWFlowers via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Former Obama Official: Climate Change Not 'Settled' Science Sunday, 21 Sep 2014 06:11 PM By Sandy Fitzgerald A former high-ranking Obama administration official says climate science and the implications of global warming are not settled, insisting such claims are misguided and stifle debate on the matter. Writing a Page One story in the Wall Street Journal Weekend Review section, Dr. Steven Koonin argues that group think among experts has been inhibiting the scientific and policy discussions that we need to have about our climate future. Koonin, who served at the Energy Department as President Obama's undersecretary for science in the Energy Department, is director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University. Urgent: Do You Approve Or Disapprove of President Obama's Job Performance? Vote Now in Urgent Poll Koonin's position strikes a blow against climate change activists as People's Climate March organized demonstrations at more than 2,000 locations worldwide. In New York, tens of thousands participated in the demonstration demanding urgent steps against carbon emissions as the United Nation's General Assembly opened. We often hear that there is a 'scientific consensus' about climate change, writes Koonin. But as far as the computer models go, there isn't a useful consensus at the level of detail relevant to assessing human influences. Koonin says his extensive training as a computational physicist with a 40-year career of scientific research and management, has given him an up-close knowledge of climate science. Detailed technical discussions during the past year with leading climate scientists have given me an even better sense of what we know, and don't know, about climate, writes Koonin. The point, Koonin says, isn't whether the climate is changing, as the climate has always changed and always will. Further, he says, there is little doubt that humans are influencing climate change, as greenhouse gases, mainly from carbon-dioxide emissions, have had an effect. But the main question remains about how the climate will change under both natural and man-made influences, which will affect energy and infrastructure choices. Those questions are the hardest ones to answer, writes Koonin. However, Koonin adds, while humans can cause serious issues for the climate, they are physically small in relation to the climate system as a whole, with additions to carbon dioxide to directly shift the atmosphere's natural greenhouse effect by only 1% to 2%. Other scientists have argued that the sun's solar activity has a much greater impact on earth temperatures that human activities. Meanwhile, while the Earth's average surface temperature has risen by 0.9 degree Fahrenheit over the last quarter of the 20th century, the increase has been much slower over the past 16 years, while the human contribution to carbon dioxide has gone up by 25 percent. Yet the models famously fail to capture this slowing in the temperature rise, says Koonin. Several dozen different explanations for this failure have been offered, with ocean variability most likely playing a major role. But the whole episode continues to highlight the limits of our modeling. Koonin says current global warming models have limitations. Many advocates of global warming dismiss or downplay contradictory data, he writes. To this end, Koonin cites: .Models that show Arctic ice melting over the past 20 years forget to note the almost equal growth of ice across Antarctica, which he says is now at a record high. .A prediction that the lower atmosphere in the tropics will absorb much of the heat of the warming atmosphere has not materialized. .The fact global sea levels in the first half of the 20th century rose at almost the same rate as today. .Climate sensitivity- that is, the warming induced by a hypothetical doubling of carbon-dioxide concentration, he says is no different, and no more certain than it was 30 years ago. These, and many other factors that are still not decided will not allow lawmakers and the public to make a definite decision when it comes to climate change, he contends. But I fear that rigidly promulgating the idea that climate science is 'settled' (or is a 'hoax') demeans and chills the scientific enterprise, retarding its progress in these important matters, he writes. Uncertainty is a prime mover and motivator of science and must be faced head-on. It should not be confined to hushed sidebar conversations at academic conferences ... Any serious discussion of the changing climate must begin by acknowledging not only the scientific certainties but also the uncertainties
Re: [meteorite-list] Nicaragua Meteorite Found in Photograph by Dirk Ross hours ago
I really don't think a meteorite piece would be left inside the crater like a small black rock. Sorry but I don't see anything even remotely suggesting meteorite. Michael Farmer On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:37 PM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: List, Here is the latest on the Nicaragua Meteorite Crater- Nicaragua Meteorite Found in Photograph by Dirk Ross hours ago http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/09/meteorite-discovered-in-photograph-of.html Photos dont lie! But who got the meteorite??? Enjoy! Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Managua, Nicaragua meteorite?
0% chance this is a meteorite. Not one report of fireball in any Spanish language news report I've read. Someone in the Air Force screwed up and they want to save face by blaming a meteorite fall. Michael Farmer On Sep 9, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Rob and Marco, I agree, sounds very plausible. However, if you read what CNN has to say, they've already determined it's from a meteorite (sheesh!): http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/08/tech/innovation/nicaragua-meteorite/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 Michael in so. Cal. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi Marco: your hypothesis is far more reasonable than a meteorite-caused impact pit. --Rob -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Marco Langbroek via Meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:01 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Managua, Nicaragua meteorite? It is well known that arms caches were hidden in Nicaragua during the fight between Sandinista's and Contra's in the 80-ies. In 1993, one of these exploded in Managua. Maybe something like that happened again. Marco __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ice-rafted rocks on dry-lakes
I've known this for many years. Why this is new I have no clue. Michael Farmer On Aug 29, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi Bob and all! When I first got into meteorites, I was shocked people were still talking about is as some kind of magical thing that hadn't been figured out! I think all this does is re-affirm what many already knew. I did not take it as anything new at all! I know of the work a few of you did about a decade ago, but ice rafting has been known for decades. Disappointed that this made it official as it's been official in my mind for years and yearsnot to mention a video I posted about a year or more ago of ice sheets that were carrying rocks slamming into the shore in heavy winds. But whatever. I would still contend wind and water, without the need for ice, can do the same thing. Anyone who has tried to walk across a moist (almost muddy) dry lake knows how slippery they become! The power water and wind has is amazing! I get a kick of the giant rock ice-rafting picture!! http://www.fvalk.com/images/Arctic/1991/Rock%20conveyor.jpg Jim On 8/29/2014 10:53 AM, Robert Verish via Meteorite-list wrote: It's now official. We can stop calling them sailing stones. New video shows that playa rocks are being barged across the lakebed. Apparently, wind-driven, floating sheets of ice are dragging or pushing the rocks leaving their tracks in the wet lakebed sediment. Photos in the article show tracks of rocks that make tight turns and circle back into the direction from which they had come. This shows that, in these cases, the rocks are locked into the ice-sheet. http://images.realclear.com/256104_5_.jpg Bob V. -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2.5 Kilogram lunar meteorite
Aziz Habibi and Aid and any other Moroccan lying about me, I did not buy a 2.5 kilogram lunar meteorite in Morocco last week. I have told you privately and now I am forced to call these lies out in public! Stop lying about me, stop telling Jay Piatek I've bought that rock. Stop playing games, you are destroying business and trust in Morocco by spreading lies. Anyone who believes what these people say at this point are fools. Aziz, I have spent a lot of Money with you, I have never done anything to you, so why you insist on lying about me I have no clue but I'm tired of it. I would think about returning to Tucson if I were you at this point. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2.5 Kilogram lunar meteorite
Yes, I held it. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Anne Black impact...@aol.com wrote: OK Michael, we will believe you. But does the 2.5 kilo lunar even exists? or is that another local myth? (all sales of.you know the rest). Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Aziz Habibilp azizhab...@yahoo.com Sent: Sun, Aug 17, 2014 9:19 am Subject: [meteorite-list] 2.5 Kilogram lunar meteorite Aziz Habibi and Aid and any other Moroccan lying about me, I did not buy a 2.5 kilogram lunar meteorite in Morocco last week. I have told you privately and now I am forced to call these lies out in public! Stop lying about me, stop telling Jay Piatek I've bought that rock. Stop playing games, you are destroying business and trust in Morocco by spreading lies. Anyone who believes what these people say at this point are fools. Aziz, I have spent a lot of Money with you, I have never done anything to you, so why you insist on lying about me I have no clue but I'm tired of it. I would think about returning to Tucson if I were you at this point. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scammer in Singapore
Extremely common scam guys! Never ever send money out, by the time you learn the credit card is stolen or the check is fake you have not only sent your merchandise but your money as well. Common on eBay with larger purchases. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 15, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Matt Morgan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Ditto. This guy contacted me about a month ago. He said he was making jewelry put some stuff on hold and I never heard from him again. He wanted to pay by credit card but I told him I would take paypal only for this particular purchase because I never heard of the guy before and the order was rather large. Matt On August 15, 2014 9:06:18 AM MDT, Gary Fujihara via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Aloha Meteorite lovers, I want to bring your attention to a scam artist out of Singapore. He contacted me about purchasing meteorites, and after showing him a selection of specimens, indicated he wanted ten of each specific one by weight - Red flag #1. He kept trying to increase the order but was not particularly discriminating on any, it did not seem to matter which meteorite he wanted - Red flag #2. After we decided on a list of specimens, he needed a favor from me - ooo, Red flag #3. It seems he wanted to overcharge his credit card so he could purchase some furniture from a Mr. Gibson in China. All I have to do is accept his overcharge of $2000, send the balance to Mr Gibson and keep the difference. Hmmm, I didn’t fall off any turnip trucks and my snowy dome seems to contradict his impression of my recent birth. So this warning is being issued to meteorite dealers, and particularly ones who sell on ebay or have a web presence. The person goes by the name of Eric Anderson, but could use another moniker to mask his identity. The email used wasaus...@gmail.com, but like his name this could change as well. Cheers, and I wish you all a good day/evening! Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites Inc. PO Box 4175, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites and Meteorite People on TV lately...
Good grief. These channels just cross-pollinate any crap they can I guess. I need to ship some Tesla parts for my car next week. Any bidders? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Yinan Wang via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: For clarification: Shipping Wars is about independent shippers who place bids against each other to win contracts to ship special items. In tonight's episode one of the loads was a bunch of space suits and meteorites for Geoff Notkin. -Yinan On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi List, I was going through the channel guide when I saw an episode of Shipping Wars featuring meteorites, so I tuned it just to see what meteorite (or wrong) would be featured. I was surprised to see Dr. Alan Rubin valuating some specimens for one of the show's regulars. I'm not familiar with this show, but I think it involves people buying abandoned cargo containers or storage lockers. So, a couple of weeks ago, we had Bob Verish on Pawn Stars. Now we have Dr. Rubin on Shipping Wars. Things like this usually come in threes, so who is next? Are any other List members appearing on upcoming TV shows? Spill the beans. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?
This is not a meteorite crater, unless you think meteorites drill holes hundreds of feet deep. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Chauncey Walden via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10970468/Mysterious-giant-hole-appears-in-Siberia.html Chauncey __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] warning about Kenya meteorite
This is a warning to the list, A guy from Kenya named Paul Aura has recovered the new Kenya fall, and I received half a stone, it was broken and scammed from me once I paid for it, then he requested more money and I stupidly complied, then he stole the stone, now planning to sell to some other sucker. Just be warned, if you send a penny up front via Western Union, he will laugh at you as he is laughing at me now, keep the money and the meteorite. Don't send a penny to anyone until you have the rock from these third world crapholes. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Recent Falls List Updated - Foum Lahcen
Man I wish there were 6 Falls per month recovered. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: an average of 6.6 falls per month Could you possibly mean 6.6 per year? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Jul 11, 2014 7:50 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Recent Falls List Updated - Foum Lahcen Hi Fall Watchers, The unofficial list of recent falls has been updated with the new Foum Lahcen fall - a probable achondrite. Thanks to Aziz Habibi for the news on this fall. Link : http://www.galactic-stone.com/pages/falls Since Jan 01, 2000, there have been 79 official falls and 21 unofficial falls for a total of 100 falls. This is an average of 6.6 falls per month. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Florida boy
not a chance in hell actually. Fake story just like the rest of them. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Jul 11, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Deborah Anne K. Martin via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello all, Last November (circa the 27th, I believe), a father in Florida claimed his young son was hit on the head by a meteorite and got 3 stitches as a result. Does anyone know if whatever struck the boy was actually a meteorite ? I tend to be extremely skeptical about these types of stories (such as Gerrit Blank who claimed he was hit on the arm in 2009 and it turned out to be a hoax). Thank you Andre Bordeleau __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oued Awlitis 001 - Serendipity !
Why is it that only rare meteorites are found in such way? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Jul 6, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Ah, the old found a lunar meteorite while looking for firewood routine, I hate it when that happens! :) Sarcastically, Michael in so. Cal. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] travel to Ensisheim
it is very close, short taxi ride. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Karen Ziegler via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi All, I'll be traveling from Frankfurt airport to Mulhouse by train. There is no train to Ensisheim. Does anybody know if there is a bus or so going from Mulhouse to Ensisheim? I guess, I could take a cab Š. Thanks! Karen Institute of Meteoritics 1 University of New Mexico 221 Yale Blvd NE, 313 Northrop Hall Albuquerque, NM 87131 Tel.: office 505-920-6640/lab 505-277-0742 http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/karen_ziegler/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bryan Scarborough contact
He is a well known scammer, this is not a surprise. Why do business with him? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Jun 16, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Fabien Kuntz via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello, Is anyone have the email adress of Bryan Scarborough, he have an unpaid ebay item for over a month, and is unresponsive via ebay... Thanks, Fabien Fabien Kuntz Météorites (ventes, expertise, conférences) Animation scientifique et technique WWMETEORITES (Siret : 511 850 612 00017) www.wwmeteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim Meteorite Show
Yes. We all all excited to head back to Europe for fine food, fine drink, and fine meteorite friends. Some fine treasure will be icing on the cake:) I will attend as usual and same as Greg, any requests for material should be made now. I plan on traveling light this year. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Greg Hupé via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello All, In just a few short days some of us will start making or way to Europe and congregate at the Ensisheim and Sainte Marie aux Mines shows. I am looking forward to seeing many of my friends there, Ensisheim has always been my favorite show when it comes down to pure meteorites, no beads or junk, just meteorites and fun meteorite people! I am not sure what I am bringing to offer for sale yet, so if I have anything that you may be interested in, please send me an email and I will do my best to bring anything of interest. Here is a little Ensisheim history to get warmed up by... Ensisheim meteorite... ...a meteorite whose descent from the sky onto a wheat field in Alsace (now part of France) in 1492 is one of the earliest instances of a meteorite fall on record. Maximillian I, who was proclaimed Holy Roman emperor soon afterward, assembled his council to determine the significance of this event; their verdict was that the meteorite was a favorable omen for success in Maximilian’s wars with France and Turkey. Accordingly, Maximilian ordered the Ensisheim stone to be placed with an appropriate inscription in the local parish church. The meteorite was fixed to the wall with iron crampons to prevent it from wandering at night or departing in the same violent manner in which it had arrived. It resides in the town of Ensisheim today, although visitors in the intervening centuries chipped off all but 56 kg (123 pounds) of its original 127-kg mass. See you at the show!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday to Comayagua
Nothing new other than the stone has vanished. Supposedly sold for $80,000 to the local university. Anyone who has been to Honduras would know that could never happen. Sad loss for a stone which penetrated a roof and bed while a man was laying in it watching TV! He came a few mm from being one of the most famous people in the world as a meteorite casualty. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Jun 3, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi Listees, Today is the 2nd anniversary of the Comayagua meteorite fall in Honduras - June 03, 2012. Any news about that fall or recoveries to mention? Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday to Comayagua (Recent Falls)
Why do you list the Canada thing, nothing was found that O ever heard about. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: That's a shame. It's one of those meteorites that is destined just be an obscure footnote. I wonder if any of it will ever surface, and if so, the chain of provenance will be murky. For those that are interested, here are the known and/or official falls since 2012 : 2014 - Feb 17, 2014 - Santa Fe (unofficial) (unknown type) : Argentina Feb 28, 2014 - Rift Valley (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Kenya (Hammer) Mar 09, 2014 - Jinju (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : South Korea Mar 18, 2014 - St. Thomas (unofficial) : (unknown type) : Canada 2013 - Jan 15, 2013 - Planeta Rica (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Colombia Feb 15, 2013 - Chelyabinsk - (LL5 chondrite) : Russia (Hammer) Apr 19, 2013 - Wolcott (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Connecticut USA (Hammer) Apr 23, 2013 - Braunschweig (L6 chondrite) : Germany (Hammer) May 09, 2013 - Oshika (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Namibia Jun 15, 2013 - Yuncheng-Shanxi (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : China Sep 23, 2013 - Vicencia (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Brazil 2012 - Feb 11, 2012 - Xining (L5 chondrite) : China Mar 01, 2012 - Oslo (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Norway (Hammer) Apr 22, 2012 - Sutter's Mill (CM - Regolith Breccia) : California USA (Hammer) May 04, 2012 - Ladkee (H6 chondrite) : Pakistan May 22, 2012 - Katol (L6 chondrite) : India (Hammer) Jun 03, 2012 - Comayagua (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Honduras (Hammer) Jul 08, 2012 - Jalangi (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : India Aug 22, 2012 - Battle Mountain (L6 chondrite) : Nevada USA Oct 12, 2012 - Beni Yacoub (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Morocco Oct 17, 2012 - Novato (L6 chondrite) : California USA (Hammer) Oct 30, 2012 - Addison (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Alabama USA Dec 16, 2012 - Mreira (L6 chondrite) : Mauritania (fall classified as a find) All falls since 2000 : http://www.galactic-stone.com/pages/falls Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 6/3/14, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Nothing new other than the stone has vanished. Supposedly sold for $80,000 to the local university. Anyone who has been to Honduras would know that could never happen. Sad loss for a stone which penetrated a roof and bed while a man was laying in it watching TV! He came a few mm from being one of the most famous people in the world as a meteorite casualty. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Jun 3, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi Listees, Today is the 2nd anniversary of the Comayagua meteorite fall in Honduras - June 03, 2012. Any news about that fall or recoveries to mention? Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim Show - Announcement
I'll be there as usual. I think in the 15 years I only missed one? I am coming a lot lighter this year so if you want something specific, let me know in advance. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 1, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: On behalf of Zelimir Gabelica, who is still fighting with his computer. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com ENSISHEIM “METEORITE 2014” NEWS (June 1, 2014) Dear meteorite friends Meteorite-Central List, Please find here below the latest update concerning the 15th edition of our meteorite show “Ensisheim-Meteorite 2014”, a very special event (15th anniversary of the show and 30th anniversary of our Brotherhood founding). This completes the 2 advertisements sent to the Mineralogical journals “Lapis” (in English) and “Le Règne Minéral” (in French),June issues, as well as the official flyers now published on our 2 web sites, namely: Ensisheim City site: www.ville-ensisheim.fr. or http://www.ville-ensisheim.fr/p_rmeteorite2014.html The “Confrérie” site: www.confrerie-gardiens-meteorite-ensisheim.fr The flyers will be published on these sites tomorrow Monday June 2. You can also find them attached to this announcement. Some additional information: TABLE RENTAL AND RESERVATION The number of dealer tables is limited to a total of 52 (currently accommodating about 45-60 dealers), not including the consignment room that accommodates 6 tables with display cases. The important reminder is that all tables are equal in size(160 x 80 cm). The price (per table, NOT per meter) has increased slightly, following the (surprising) suggestion by quite a number of dealers: 1 table = 155Euro, 2 tables = 300 euro, 3 tables = 430 euro. Please plan your own lighting if needed (strictly limited to 250 W/table !). All past dealers/guests have full priority to reserve their last year table(s). Those who did not come last year (2013) have lost their priority and will be considered “newcomers”. To date, ALL 52 TABLES ARE BOOKED ! Sorry for those who were late in reserving but my January warning was perfectly explicit on that point. Nevertheless a waiting list is now open, should some of you still wish to rent a table. From experience, 2 to 4 tables are often released 3 weeks before the show starts. The 2014 participants (including the main co-dealers) are (in alphabetical order): AFANASYEV Serge/RAZUMOVSKY Anatoly (RU), AISSAMI Abdellali(MA), AITHIBA Abdelhadi (MA), BARAKSHIN Andrey (RU), BLACK Anne (US), BECKER M.(D) (?), BOURAGAA Ahmad/AID Mohamed (MA), CARION Alain (F), CHAOUI Rachid (MA),CIMALA Marcin/MAZUREK Kazimierz (PL), COMPAGNUCCI Enzo (I), DEHNER Thomas (D),EGER Uwe (D), ENNAHI Larbi (MA), HABERER Siegfried (D), HMANI Ali Mohammed (MA), HUPĒ Greg (US), ISMAILY Sidi-Mohamed (MA), JOSTMarc/PERRINJACQUET Roger (CH), KACHALIN Dmitry (RU), KALACHEV Viacheslav (RU),KARL Joachim Moritz (D)/FARMER Mike/STROPE Jim (US), KNÖFEL André/GOETTLICHDavid (D), KOSER Hans (UY), KUNTZ Fabien/ PELĒ Pierre-Marie (F), LABENNE Luc(F), PACER Gregor (D), PANI Ahmed (A), PUSTOV Yuri (RU), RALEW Stefan (D), SBAIMohammed (MA) (?), SKORNIAKOV Slava (RU), STALLING Ilmarin (D), SMULA Lukacz(PL), VASILIEV Sergey (CZ), VINOGRADOV Aleksey (RU). There will be more accompanying persons present on some tables. All such people will receive a free badge, on the following basis: 1 table reserved, 1 or 2 badges attributed; 2 tables, up to 3 badges; 3 tables, up to 4 badges, etc. If more people are officially part of a table team, they can either be considered as “public” and pay 4 euro as entrance fee, or pay 10 euro that includes the entrance and a badge. To make this possible, I will need the full names of all accompanying persons as soon as possible, so we can write the corresponding badges in time. The 6 consignment display-cases will contain meteorites, tektites, impactites…from the following collections (list still open): GABELICA Zelimir (B), JACQUES Benoît (B), JAWERBAUM Eduardo (AR),SCHMITT-KOPPLIN Philippe (D), STEHLIK Harald (A), TURONE Oscar (AR), VERLOOVENGuy (B), WENGERT Sigrid (D). To avoid money transfer complications and bank fee, we ask that you pay the table rental in cash. Tables are to be paid on Saturday morning between 7:30 and 9:30 to the treasurer, at the reception desk visible from the entrance door of the Regency building. When they pay, the dealers must wear (or ask for) their badge. Since we do not require pre-payment, it would be very fair if, in case of cancellation, you notify us enough in advance so that we can rent your space to those who are on a waiting list. People without badges are not considered dealers, cannot occupy tables, and are NOT allowed to sell meteorites elsewhere within the buildings or on the Regency square. Friday June 20 is the DEALER’S DAY
Re: [meteorite-list] Off Topic: Bundy Ranch Photographs
A bunch of freaks, little more. Look at all those wanna-be soldiers trying to be military without actually serving. Someone who is a deadbeat renter being evicted from government land, a true welfare queen. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 14, 2014, at 2:10 PM, wahlpe...@aol.com wrote: Hi List, Some of you may have heard about the showdown on the Range here in Nevada. Here are a couple of pictures from the protest at the Bundy Ranch in April of 2014. Regardless of which side you stand on these pictures are definitely worth taking a look at. Truly still the Wild West out here. Sonny http://sonnyclaryphotography.smugmug.com/Bundy-Ranch-April-2014/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ
Not good area, lots of mountains, but sparse desert vegetation. Could be time for a hunt. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 12, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: No video yet, but the 10:00 NEWS opened the show with about 7 minutes of talk and interviews of this fireball. Initial reports said it landed 75-80 miles north of Las Cruces, NM Stay tuned, I'll bet someone posts a video soon. On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Here's the first bits of NEWS that may turn into something big. Channel 12 NEWS in Phoenix is reporting this on their Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/12news Lets watch and see what comes from it! -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway Rock
Agree a 1000% Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum dori...@embarqmail.com wrote: What amazes me about this media stunt is the lack of skepticism from people who should know better. When I saw the video, my first thought was: this is as phony as a three-dollar bill. Anybody with even a lick of common sense should have instantly known this was totally bogus. No bolide, no sonic boom, no smoke trail, no electophonic sound, no recovered meteorite, nothing. There's nothing right about this. Just a video where a small rock pops out of a parachute right after its deployed. Who in their right mind would conclude that it was a meteoroid in dark flight? (Besides the dummy astronomer and physicist.) Even now people are still saying: well there's a reasonable chance it could be real. Yeah right! About the same chance as me winning 10 Olympic gold medals, winning the lottery 10 times in a row, getting elected to the US Senate after being knighted by the Queen of England and then marrying Scarlett Johansson. Get Real, Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway Rock
If it had been made public from day one before they built websites and made videos and spent nearly 2 years building the hype for max news publicity and promotion it would hAve been more believable. I find this entire thing ridiculous. I saw a video of some lights shining down of deer the other day, news was viral, I doubt it was aliens but hasn't been disproven either:) It seems to me that some people are invested in this story and will never admit that it is just a pebble from the chute packing. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: Then you need to tune up your analysis skills. And your knowledge of meteoritics. The video was not falsified, and is hardly phony. What it shows is plausibly explained by the meteorite hypothesis. Many, perhaps most meteorite falls are not preceded by a significant fireball, and even fewer by acoustics of any sort. I don't hear many people saying there's a reasonable chance this could be a meteorite. I didn't even hear much of that early on. Only that nothing obviously excludes this from being a meteorite. That's a distinction well worth remembering. If this had been trivially rejected from the beginning, no analysis would have been performed, and that would be unfortunate. And that's getting real. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/10/2014 11:49 AM, Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum wrote: What amazes me about this media stunt is the lack of skepticism from people who should know better. When I saw the video, my first thought was: this is as phony as a three-dollar bill. Anybody with even a lick of common sense should have instantly known this was totally bogus. No bolide, no sonic boom, no smoke trail, no electophonic sound, no recovered meteorite, nothing. There's nothing right about this. Just a video where a small rock pops out of a parachute right after its deployed. Who in their right mind would conclude that it was a meteoroid in dark flight? (Besides the dummy astronomer and physicist.) Even now people are still saying: well there's a reasonable chance it could be real. Yeah right! About the same chance as me winning 10 Olympic gold medals, winning the lottery 10 times in a row, getting elected to the US Senate after being knighted by the Queen of England and then marrying Scarlett Johansson. Get Real, Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock
So now that the parachute scam has been debunked and now proven to be a rock from the parachute, why has the list gone silent on it? Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock
Well one of the parachutists seems to think someone at NASA did debunk it, since they posted a thank you for the help thanking NASA. I guess they are making that up too:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: NASA has not debunked it. And the parachutists have only determined a plausible way that a small rock could have ended up in the parachute. As I said, the meteorite hypothesis has not been disproved, only relegated to a sufficiently small likelihood that further investigation is probably unwarranted. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/9/2014 4:23 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: Actually it seems NASA has debunked it and they parachutists themselves admit it is a stone from the parachute, which I said from moment one. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock
Actually it seems NASA has debunked it and they parachutists themselves admit it is a stone from the parachute, which I said from moment one. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: I'd like to point out that the meteorite explanation has not been debunked, nor has it been proven that it was a rock from the parachute. The falling object is still consistent with a meteorite. What's been demonstrated is that the rock is very plausibly explained as something trapped in the parachute, and given the odds against capturing an image of a falling meteorite, that's by far the most likely possibility. But a meteorite remains a possibility, although not a likely one. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/9/2014 4:04 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: So now that the parachute scam has been debunked and now proven to be a rock from the parachute, why has the list gone silent on it? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
