Re: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden
Hi list, I was just wondering whether, more than a year on, anyone had come across this story about a meteorite with fossilized remains inside. I have an ongoing project to collect these stories, and any weirder ones that emerge! Best wishes, Chris * Re: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden by chris aubeck Reply to author Reply to group Hi Göran! Ah, so it was one of those stories after all! It sounds a lot like the Italian article I translated and mentioned in my last post. A part of what I do is to follow these trends as they spread across Europe, it helps build up an idea of how people first became aware of the science that surrounded them. If ever you can recall the date of the account I'd be fascinated to know it and see how it fits into the general chronology of press reports of the period. Warm regards from Madrid, Chris On 9/6/05, Göran Axelsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, I haven't forget about you. I have tried to find the article again. It was publicised in a Swedish periodic called GFF, Geologiska Föreningen i Stockholms Annaler, but I haven't been able to locate the note I made about which issue it was in. Two months ago I tried to find it in the storage of the library only to find that they had removed it from the storage. 120 years of geological articles only three minutes from home gone... :-( The article in it self was about a meteorite that was observed to fall in Sweden and found in a field. If my memory doesn't fail me it was still hot when found, black on the outside and full of fossiles. Actually it turned out to be a bit of burned limestone and it was debunked either at the end of the article or in a later issue. I haven't given up on finding that article again but it will take me some more effort to find it again. I'll let you know if I find it. Thanks for the link to the fossile meteorites, I hadn't seen that article before. As a sidenote, I was on a mineral tour to Jämtland in 2002 and we visited Brunflo to collect fossiles. As we knew of the fossile meteorites found in that quarry my interest were towards the meteorites. Suddenly I found a rusty ball in a stone. No one had seen anything like that, but after the first excitement had died down we started to realise that it probably was a pyrite ball, not a meteorite. :-) /Göran chris aubeck wrote: Hi, Last year, on September 21st, I received a reply on this list from Göran Axelsson which ended, enigmatically: As a sidenote there were a meteorite found in sweden almost 100 years ago with fossiles in it. Anyone want to debunk that one? :-) /Göran I was seriously interested in seeing a copy of the original article, but unfortunately Mr. Axelsson didn't reply. Can anyone tell me anything about it? This is exactly what I collect and study. Best wishes, Chris __ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list On 9/6/05, Göran Axelsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, I haven't forget about you. I have tried to find the article again. It was publicised in a Swedish periodic called GFF, Geologiska Föreningen i Stockholms Annaler, but I haven't been able to locate the note I made about which issue it was in. Two months ago I tried to find it in the storage of the library only to find that they had removed it from the storage. 120 years of geological articles only three minutes from home gone... :-( The article in it self was about a meteorite that was observed to fall in Sweden and found in a field. If my memory doesn't fail me it was still hot when found, black on the outside and full of fossiles. Actually it turned out to be a bit of burned limestone and it was debunked either at the end of the article or in a later issue. I haven't given up on finding that article again but it will take me some more effort to find it again. I'll let you know if I find it. Thanks for the link to the fossile meteorites, I hadn't seen that article before. As a sidenote, I was on a mineral tour to Jämtland in 2002 and we visited Brunflo to collect fossiles. As we knew of the fossile meteorites found in that quarry my interest were towards the meteorites. Suddenly I found a rusty ball in a stone. No one had seen anything like that, but after the first excitement had died down we started to realise that it probably was a pyrite ball, not a meteorite. :-) /Göran chris aubeck wrote: Hi, Last year, on September 21st, I received a reply on this list from Göran Axelsson which ended, enigmatically: As a sidenote there were a meteorite found in sweden almost 100 years ago with fossiles in it. Anyone want to debunk that one? :-) /Göran I
Re: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden
Hi Sterling, Thanks for this information, I find it interesting and useful for my own studies. However, I do not expect it to be the fossil story original mentioned by Göram. Not because I know much about sedimentary meteorite falls, but because I know a thing or two about alleged fossil-bearing spacerocks from the 19th century press. It would surprise me if Swedish newspapers didn't publish a report about a meteorite that remained hot for an impossibly long time and contained organic fossils, simply because that was the fashion at the time. Best wishes, Chris On 9/7/05, Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, You're probably referring to: BLECKENSTAD, Ostergotland, Sweden, April 11, 1925 A meteor was observed, leaving a trail of smoke. Stones are said to have fallen, and fragments of a white, porous limestone were picked up, differing from the local rocks. The possibly meteoritic nature of this material has been the subject of considerable discussion, N. Zenzen (1942, 1943); A. Hadding (1943); F.C. Cross (1947). Pseudometeorite, F.E. Wickman A. Uddenberg-Anderson (1982). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden
Hi Folks! If this is the stone I'm thinking of, Zenzen, who was head of the Sweden Geological Survey or Museum, or equivalent official and a prominent geologist, wrote extensively on it. The witness account is perfectly consistently with the real thing and the stone is fossilerous limestone. I think this indicates a new question: Are sedimentary meteorites possibible? People mostly don´t think about this problem and so this problem don´t exist! We all knew, that we have rocks from Mars, but this rocks are only igneous! Why most people don´t accept, that sedimantary rocks could be hard enough to survive a impact (and this is the main problem) and become meteorites? I don´t know how many of you ever piced up a hammer and go out in the field to have a look to terrestrial rocks. I´ve made this since I´m 8 years old and I´ve seen a lot of sed. rocks hard enough to do so. There are sed. rocks on the Mars that´s sure, so why not a Mars sandstone or limestone? And what´s about planetary metamorphic rocks (not shock met.).? Just a few wild thoughts Ingo/Germany --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden Datum: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:17:18 -0500 Hi, You're probably referring to: BLECKENSTAD, Ostergotland, Sweden, April 11, 1925 A meteor was observed, leaving a trail of smoke. Stones are said to have fallen, and fragments of a white, porous limestone were picked up, differing from the local rocks. The possibly meteoritic nature of this material has been the subject of considerable discussion, N. Zenzen (1942, 1943); A. Hadding (1943); F.C. Cross (1947). Pseudometeorite, F.E. Wickman A. Uddenberg-Anderson (1982). If this is the stone I'm thinking of, Zenzen, who was head of the Sweden Geological Survey or Museum, or equivalent official and a prominent geologist, wrote extensively on it. The witness account is perfectly consistently with the real thing and the stone is fossilerous limestone. All that happened is that he ruined his reputation and lost his job. Sad. I posted a long investigation report about it and it may still be in the archives if they go back far enough. The explanation is blindingly simple. It's a terrestrial meteorite., blasted off the Earth by impact and returned to the Earth 100,000's of years later, instead of wandering the System or ending up on Mars or Venus... The simulations of interplanetary transport by Melosh, Gladman, and others, always show a fair percentage of impact liberated materials returning to their world of origin. Nininger found a fossilliferous meteorite too, with a thin calcinated fusion crust and wrote, briefly, about it, but he, unlike Zenzen, knew when to shut up. Sterling K. Webb -- chris aubeck wrote: Hi, Last year, on September 21st, I received a reply on this list from Göran Axelsson which ended, enigmatically: As a sidenote there were a meteorite found in sweden almost 100 years ago with fossiles in it. Anyone want to debunk that one? :-) /Göran I was seriously interested in seeing a copy of the original article, but unfortunately Mr. Axelsson didn't reply. Can anyone tell me anything about it? This is exactly what I collect and study. Best wishes, Chris __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- GMX DSL = Maximale Leistung zum minimalen Preis! 2000 MB nur 2,99, Flatrate ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden
Hi, Last year, on September 21st, I received a reply on this list from Göran Axelsson which ended, enigmatically: As a sidenote there were a meteorite found in sweden almost 100 years ago with fossiles in it. Anyone want to debunk that one? :-) /Göran I was seriously interested in seeing a copy of the original article, but unfortunately Mr. Axelsson didn't reply. Can anyone tell me anything about it? This is exactly what I collect and study. Best wishes, Chris __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden
I think he was talking about the fossil meteorites Brunflo, Osterplana and others found in Sweden rather than fossils in meteorites. Look here: http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/Mar04/fossilMeteorites.html Best regards, Jörn -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von chris aubeck Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. September 2005 15:30 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden Hi, Last year, on September 21st, I received a reply on this list from Göran Axelsson which ended, enigmatically: As a sidenote there were a meteorite found in sweden almost 100 years ago with fossiles in it. Anyone want to debunk that one? :-) /Göran I was seriously interested in seeing a copy of the original article, but unfortunately Mr. Axelsson didn't reply. Can anyone tell me anything about it? This is exactly what I collect and study. Best wishes, Chris __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden
Hi Chris, I haven't forget about you. I have tried to find the article again. It was publicised in a Swedish periodic called GFF, Geologiska Föreningen i Stockholms Annaler, but I haven't been able to locate the note I made about which issue it was in. Two months ago I tried to find it in the storage of the library only to find that they had removed it from the storage. 120 years of geological articles only three minutes from home gone... :-( The article in it self was about a meteorite that was observed to fall in Sweden and found in a field. If my memory doesn't fail me it was still hot when found, black on the outside and full of fossiles. Actually it turned out to be a bit of burned limestone and it was debunked either at the end of the article or in a later issue. I haven't given up on finding that article again but it will take me some more effort to find it again. I'll let you know if I find it. Thanks for the link to the fossile meteorites, I hadn't seen that article before. As a sidenote, I was on a mineral tour to Jämtland in 2002 and we visited Brunflo to collect fossiles. As we knew of the fossile meteorites found in that quarry my interest were towards the meteorites. Suddenly I found a rusty ball in a stone. No one had seen anything like that, but after the first excitement had died down we started to realise that it probably was a pyrite ball, not a meteorite. :-) /Göran chris aubeck wrote: Hi, Last year, on September 21st, I received a reply on this list from Göran Axelsson which ended, enigmatically: As a sidenote there were a meteorite found in sweden almost 100 years ago with fossiles in it. Anyone want to debunk that one? :-) /Göran I was seriously interested in seeing a copy of the original article, but unfortunately Mr. Axelsson didn't reply. Can anyone tell me anything about it? This is exactly what I collect and study. Best wishes, Chris __ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden
Hi Göran! Ah, so it was one of those stories after all! It sounds a lot like the Italian article I translated and mentioned in my last post. A part of what I do is to follow these trends as they spread across Europe, it helps build up an idea of how people first became aware of the science that surrounded them. If ever you can recall the date of the account I'd be fascinated to know it and see how it fits into the general chronology of press reports of the period. Warm regards from Madrid, Chris On 9/6/05, Göran Axelsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, I haven't forget about you. I have tried to find the article again. It was publicised in a Swedish periodic called GFF, Geologiska Föreningen i Stockholms Annaler, but I haven't been able to locate the note I made about which issue it was in. Two months ago I tried to find it in the storage of the library only to find that they had removed it from the storage. 120 years of geological articles only three minutes from home gone... :-( The article in it self was about a meteorite that was observed to fall in Sweden and found in a field. If my memory doesn't fail me it was still hot when found, black on the outside and full of fossiles. Actually it turned out to be a bit of burned limestone and it was debunked either at the end of the article or in a later issue. I haven't given up on finding that article again but it will take me some more effort to find it again. I'll let you know if I find it. Thanks for the link to the fossile meteorites, I hadn't seen that article before. As a sidenote, I was on a mineral tour to Jämtland in 2002 and we visited Brunflo to collect fossiles. As we knew of the fossile meteorites found in that quarry my interest were towards the meteorites. Suddenly I found a rusty ball in a stone. No one had seen anything like that, but after the first excitement had died down we started to realise that it probably was a pyrite ball, not a meteorite. :-) /Göran chris aubeck wrote: Hi, Last year, on September 21st, I received a reply on this list from Göran Axelsson which ended, enigmatically: As a sidenote there were a meteorite found in sweden almost 100 years ago with fossiles in it. Anyone want to debunk that one? :-) /Göran I was seriously interested in seeing a copy of the original article, but unfortunately Mr. Axelsson didn't reply. Can anyone tell me anything about it? This is exactly what I collect and study. Best wishes, Chris __ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list On 9/6/05, Göran Axelsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, I haven't forget about you. I have tried to find the article again. It was publicised in a Swedish periodic called GFF, Geologiska Föreningen i Stockholms Annaler, but I haven't been able to locate the note I made about which issue it was in. Two months ago I tried to find it in the storage of the library only to find that they had removed it from the storage. 120 years of geological articles only three minutes from home gone... :-( The article in it self was about a meteorite that was observed to fall in Sweden and found in a field. If my memory doesn't fail me it was still hot when found, black on the outside and full of fossiles. Actually it turned out to be a bit of burned limestone and it was debunked either at the end of the article or in a later issue. I haven't given up on finding that article again but it will take me some more effort to find it again. I'll let you know if I find it. Thanks for the link to the fossile meteorites, I hadn't seen that article before. As a sidenote, I was on a mineral tour to Jämtland in 2002 and we visited Brunflo to collect fossiles. As we knew of the fossile meteorites found in that quarry my interest were towards the meteorites. Suddenly I found a rusty ball in a stone. No one had seen anything like that, but after the first excitement had died down we started to realise that it probably was a pyrite ball, not a meteorite. :-) /Göran chris aubeck wrote: Hi, Last year, on September 21st, I received a reply on this list from Göran Axelsson which ended, enigmatically: As a sidenote there were a meteorite found in sweden almost 100 years ago with fossiles in it. Anyone want to debunk that one? :-) /Göran I was seriously interested in seeing a copy of the original article, but unfortunately Mr. Axelsson didn't reply. Can anyone tell me anything about it? This is exactly what I collect and study. Best wishes, Chris __ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
RE: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden
Hey Guys: We have v.1 (from the 1800's) through v.112 (1990) here at Emory. If you find out what issue it's in, I'd be glad to hunt it down for you and make a copy. Anita D. Westlake, Manager James S. Guy Chemistry Library Math/Science Library EMORY UNIVERSITY 1515 Dickey Drive Atlanta, Ga 30322 Telephone: 404-727-4066 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAX: 404-727-0054 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Göran Axelsson Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:02 AM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden Hi Chris, I haven't forget about you. I have tried to find the article again. It was publicised in a Swedish periodic called GFF, Geologiska Föreningen i Stockholms Annaler, but I haven't been able to locate the note I made about which issue it was in. Two months ago I tried to find it in the storage of the library only to find that they had removed it from the storage. 120 years of geological articles only three minutes from home gone... :-( The article in it self was about a meteorite that was observed to fall in Sweden and found in a field. If my memory doesn't fail me it was still hot when found, black on the outside and full of fossiles. Actually it turned out to be a bit of burned limestone and it was debunked either at the end of the article or in a later issue. I haven't given up on finding that article again but it will take me some more effort to find it again. I'll let you know if I find it. Thanks for the link to the fossile meteorites, I hadn't seen that article before. As a sidenote, I was on a mineral tour to Jämtland in 2002 and we visited Brunflo to collect fossiles. As we knew of the fossile meteorites found in that quarry my interest were towards the meteorites. Suddenly I found a rusty ball in a stone. No one had seen anything like that, but after the first excitement had died down we started to realise that it probably was a pyrite ball, not a meteorite. :-) /Göran chris aubeck wrote: Hi, Last year, on September 21st, I received a reply on this list from Göran Axelsson which ended, enigmatically: As a sidenote there were a meteorite found in sweden almost 100 years ago with fossiles in it. Anyone want to debunk that one? :-) /Göran I was seriously interested in seeing a copy of the original article, but unfortunately Mr. Axelsson didn't reply. Can anyone tell me anything about it? This is exactly what I collect and study. Best wishes, Chris __ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden
Hi, You're probably referring to: BLECKENSTAD, Ostergotland, Sweden, April 11, 1925 A meteor was observed, leaving a trail of smoke. Stones are said to have fallen, and fragments of a white, porous limestone were picked up, differing from the local rocks. The possibly meteoritic nature of this material has been the subject of considerable discussion, N. Zenzen (1942, 1943); A. Hadding (1943); F.C. Cross (1947). Pseudometeorite, F.E. Wickman A. Uddenberg-Anderson (1982). If this is the stone I'm thinking of, Zenzen, who was head of the Sweden Geological Survey or Museum, or equivalent official and a prominent geologist, wrote extensively on it. The witness account is perfectly consistently with the real thing and the stone is fossilerous limestone. All that happened is that he ruined his reputation and lost his job. Sad. I posted a long investigation report about it and it may still be in the archives if they go back far enough. The explanation is blindingly simple. It's a terrestrial meteorite., blasted off the Earth by impact and returned to the Earth 100,000's of years later, instead of wandering the System or ending up on Mars or Venus... The simulations of interplanetary transport by Melosh, Gladman, and others, always show a fair percentage of impact liberated materials returning to their world of origin. Nininger found a fossilliferous meteorite too, with a thin calcinated fusion crust and wrote, briefly, about it, but he, unlike Zenzen, knew when to shut up. Sterling K. Webb -- chris aubeck wrote: Hi, Last year, on September 21st, I received a reply on this list from Göran Axelsson which ended, enigmatically: As a sidenote there were a meteorite found in sweden almost 100 years ago with fossiles in it. Anyone want to debunk that one? :-) /Göran I was seriously interested in seeing a copy of the original article, but unfortunately Mr. Axelsson didn't reply. Can anyone tell me anything about it? This is exactly what I collect and study. Best wishes, Chris __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 100 year old meteorite story from Sweden
Hi, Thanks to Google, I was able to find my own post, which otherwise would have been like looking for a single sock lost years ago at the bottom of the bedroom closet... I reproduce it here, from 10-24-03: Actually, there are a number of sedimentary meteorites. It's just that they are not acknowledged to be meteorites. If you have the CDROM of the Catalogue, have the software assemble you a list of pseudometeorites that are not irons. Or just search for BLECKENSTAD (April 11, 1925) SWEDEN, a sedimentary meteorite of white limestone complete with fossil shells. It was reported on by Dr. Assar Hadding of the Swedish Geological Institute in 1939 who, after a long investigation, decided it really was a meteorite. The chief reason for so believing is that it is a WITNESSED FALL and you really can't get much better than that. However, he was widely regarded as whacky by the wise men of 1939 and (equally wisely) shut up about it for 20 years. Hadding was so discouraged by the reception of his earlier paper that, when he discovered another sedimentary meteorite, he threw it away! Only much later, in the 1950's, when he realized that they could have been Earthites, did he write about the two stones again. Nininger himself found a small sedimentary meteorite, on March 24, 1933, while searching for fragments of Pasamonte. The stone in question was a dirty grey limestone with fragmentary shell bits fossilized in it and sporting a black fusion crust. He ruled out an artificial origin for the crust but was unwilling to claim it was a meteorite, apparently not because he didn't think it was a meteorite but because it wasn't worth the noise... Frank Cross wrote about sedimentary meteorites at length in the journal Popular Astronomy (Vol. 55, 1947, pp. 96-102), citing Trevlac (Indiana) and Montrose (West Virginia), two independently discovered sedimentary meteorites with identical green glassy crusts. And so it goes... The whereabouts of most of the sedimentary pseudometeorites is unknown, not surprising considering their reception, so the sophisticated tests that could be performed today are impossible. There's a kind of self-reinforcing judgement at work in that. Two guys from the French Academy, flumping their powdered wigs, explain, Foolish peasant! Ze sedimentary rocks from ze sky, zey do not fall, so we throw the evidence in the trash. Anybody on the List know what happened to Nininger's sedimentary find? Hope that helps. Sterling K. Webb Sterling K. Webb wrote: Hi, You're probably referring to: BLECKENSTAD, Ostergotland, Sweden, April 11, 1925 A meteor was observed, leaving a trail of smoke. Stones are said to have fallen, and fragments of a white, porous limestone were picked up, differing from the local rocks. The possibly meteoritic nature of this material has been the subject of considerable discussion, N. Zenzen (1942, 1943); A. Hadding (1943); F.C. Cross (1947). Pseudometeorite, F.E. Wickman A. Uddenberg-Anderson (1982). If this is the stone I'm thinking of, Zenzen, who was head of the Sweden Geological Survey or Museum, or equivalent official and a prominent geologist, wrote extensively on it. The witness account is perfectly consistently with the real thing and the stone is fossilerous limestone. All that happened is that he ruined his reputation and lost his job. Sad. I posted a long investigation report about it and it may still be in the archives if they go back far enough. The explanation is blindingly simple. It's a terrestrial meteorite., blasted off the Earth by impact and returned to the Earth 100,000's of years later, instead of wandering the System or ending up on Mars or Venus... The simulations of interplanetary transport by Melosh, Gladman, and others, always show a fair percentage of impact liberated materials returning to their world of origin. Nininger found a fossilliferous meteorite too, with a thin calcinated fusion crust and wrote, briefly, about it, but he, unlike Zenzen, knew when to shut up. Sterling K. Webb -- chris aubeck wrote: Hi, Last year, on September 21st, I received a reply on this list from Göran Axelsson which ended, enigmatically: As a sidenote there were a meteorite found in sweden almost 100 years ago with fossiles in it. Anyone want to debunk that one? :-) /Göran I was seriously interested in seeing a copy of the original article, but unfortunately Mr. Axelsson didn't reply. Can anyone tell me anything about it? This is exactly what I collect and study. Best wishes, Chris __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing