FW: [meteorite-list] Stange Happenings in the Shop
This sure sounds like a powdered reduction of Aqua Regia - Combo of HCL and Nitric acid that is somehow powdered (I think by using ammonia, but not sure) which can then be mixed into water. Extremely dangerous stuff, and produces phosgene gas It is used in VERY WEAK solution, with voltage, to dissolve and plate gold and Platinum also a great cleaning solution with probably 1/1000th of the strength that you used...say no more. Obviously, anytime this stuff is used, you need ventilation that roars. You are a very lucky person. I would go find the idiot that sold you that and stop him before he kills someone. CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pekka Savolainen Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 2:29 AM To: Adam Hupe Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stange Happenings in the Shop Hello Adam and the list, hydrochloric acid has been widely used to remove calcite from the mineral specimens. The smell of rotten eggs means usually hydrogen sulphide, so I suppose, you have had a quite heavy liquid to clean the mets. Well, natural product anyway, no doubt...;- If the stuff has been a mixture of hydrochlorid acide and sulphuric acid, you have been lucky you didn´t hurt yourselves, huh. If you pour water / alcohol to this heavy acid, the reaction may be very violent. But the mixture sure etches irons... take care, pekka s Adam Hupe wrote: Dear List Members, We had a pretty strange thing happen in our shop today. We purchased some so-called magic cleaning potion at the Denver show from a hippie that had beautiful mineral specimens for sale. He told us the stuff works great for removing calcite from minerals. We asked about meteorites and he said it would be safe because it is natural, does not pollute and is a green product... -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello Adam and the list, hydrochloric acid has been widely used to remove calcite from the mineral specimens. The smell of rotten eggs means usually hydrogen sulphide, so I suppose, you have had a quite heavy liquid to clean the mets. Well, natural product anyway, no doubt...;- If the stuff has been a mixture of hydrochlorid acide and sulphuric acid, you have been lucky you didn´t hurt yourselves, huh. If you pour water / alcohol to this heavy acid, the reaction may be very violent. But the mixture sure etches irons... take care, pekka s Adam Hupe wrote: Dear List Members, We had a pretty strange thing happen in our shop today. We purchased some so-called magic cleaning potion at the Denver show from a hippie that had beautiful mineral specimens for sale. He told us the stuff works great for removing calcite from minerals. We asked about meteorites and he said it would be safe because it is natural, does not pollute and is a green product... -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Adam and List Scary stuff indeed, that "magic cleaning potion"! And to think that you had it in your luggage during your return flight... I'm pleased to know that everything ended OK. On a lighter note: That hippie who sold the "potion" to you, is the cousin of Harry Potter?? All the best José - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 5:21 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stange Happenings in the Shop Hi Paul and List, It came in an unlabeled glass jar with a plastic lid. Image if this stuff would have leaked out of our luggage on our way back from the show on the flight home. If we see this guy next year we will thank him for not warning us about this stuff. Hopefully no one else purchased any. All the best, Adam - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stange Happenings in the Shop Hi Adam, Greg and Folks, Was this the Hippie that was selling the "magic cleaning solution" in the glass lined stainless steel/Titanium containerswhich read "WARNING: DO NOT MIX WITH WATER"? LOL Just wondered. Glad everything turned out OK. Best regards, Paul In a message dated 11/8/2003 12:13:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "We had a pretty strange thing happen in our shop today. We purchased someso-called "magic cleaning potion" at the Denver show from a hippie that hadbeautiful mineral specimens for sale. He told us the stuff works great forremoving calcite from minerals. We asked about meteorites and he said itwould be safe because it is natural, does not pollute and is a "greenproduct". We mixed up a batch with some distilled water as he directed andthrew a handful of Taza irons into the solution. What happened next waspretty scary."
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Hi all other mad scientists, I once tossed a Canyon Diablo indvidual into a beaker of concentrated sulphuric acid. The piece bucked, bubbled and twisted in its death throws, but nothing like what you guys experienced. Sounds like your magic juice was really green...I mean green like alien! Cue the Twilight Zone music! Keep us informed. Martin - Original Message - From: Pekka Savolainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, November 8, 2003 0:29 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stange Happenings in the Shop Hello Adam and the list, hydrochloric acid has been widely used to remove calcite from the mineralspecimens. The smell of rotten eggs means usually hydrogen sulphide, so I suppose, you have had a quite heavy liquid to clean the mets. Well, naturalproduct anyway, no doubt...;- If the stuff has been a mixture of hydrochlorid acide and sulphuric acid, you have been lucky you didn´t hurt yourselves, huh. If you pour water / al cohol to this heavy acid, the reaction may be very violent. But the mixture sure etches irons... take care, pekka s Adam Hupe wrote: Dear List Members, We had a pretty strange thing happen in our shop today. We purchased some so-called magic cleaning potion at the Denver show from a hippie that had beautiful mineral specimens for sale. He told us the stuff works great for removing calcite from minerals. We asked about meteorites and he said it would be safe because it is natural, does not pollute and is a green product... -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mail man/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello Greg, Adam and all, Looks to me like someone found an easy way to dispose of their hazardous waste. All Greg had to do to get rid of his Nitric acid was to lable it as a magic cleaning solution and sell it to unsuspecting meteorite collectors ;-) The next thing we'll have to watch out for is used motor oil being sold as a magic rust preventative. Take care, Frank - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stange Happenings in the Shop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The bucket started to bubble (or boil, we are not sure) and a noxious brown cloud that smelt like rotten eggs permeated our shop gagging everybody present. We were tempted to call a hazmat team but decided to deal with the problem ourselves. We didn't have gas masks so we had to reenter the shop with wet towels over our faces, put the bucket outside and open the windows. Once we felt it was safe to go near the bucket we dumped out the contents on the driveway and hosed everything down. What we found was that this stuff not only removed the calcite but also etched the meteorites from the outside and ate a large hole in the driveway. Now I don't feel quite so wussy for asking advice on how best to dispose of some nitric a couple of weeks ago.;-) Gregory __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All Greg had to do to get rid of his Nitric acid was to lable it as a"magic cleaning solution" and sell it to unsuspecting meteorite collectors Although it's the first time I can recall being described as a "hippie". ;-) Gregory
[meteorite-list] Stange Happenings in the Shop
Dear List Members, We had a pretty strange thing happen in our shop today. We purchased some so-called magic cleaning potion at the Denver show from a hippie that had beautiful mineral specimens for sale. He told us the stuff works great for removing calcite from minerals. We asked about meteorites and he said it would be safe because it is natural, does not pollute and is a green product. We mixed up a batch with some distilled water as he directed and threw a handful of Taza irons into the solution. What happened next was pretty scary. The bucket started to bubble (or boil, we are not sure) and a noxious brown cloud that smelt like rotten eggs permeated our shop gagging everybody present. We were tempted to call a hazmat team but decided to deal with the problem ourselves. We didn't have gas masks so we had to reenter the shop with wet towels over our faces, put the bucket outside and open the windows. Once we felt it was safe to go near the bucket we dumped out the contents on the driveway and hosed everything down. What we found was that this stuff not only removed the calcite but also etched the meteorites from the outside and ate a large hole in the driveway. If we would have soaked them overnight like the hippie advised there probably would have been nothing left including the bucket. Needless to say, this will be a limited addition item as we are going back to the air-abrasion tool method to clean irons. Assuming this stuff was some kind of very powerful acid we neutralized the irons using baking soda, washed them with pure ethyl alcohol and heat treated them. Although it was a bad experience, the end product looks pretty cool. If you are interested in seeing what they look like check out this link: http://www.lunarrock.com/11-7/taza1.jpg To help offset the costs of repairing the driveway, we are making this limited addition run available on eBay. If you are interested, here is the link: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritelab/ Wishing everybody well, Adam and Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection IMCA 2185 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The bucket started to bubble (or boil, we are not sure) and anoxious brown cloud that smelt like rotten eggs permeated our shop gaggingeverybody present. We were tempted to call a hazmat team but decided todeal with the problem ourselves. We didn't have gas masks so we had toreenter the shop with wet towels over our faces, put the bucket outside andopen the windows. Once we felt it was safe to go near the bucket we dumpedout the contents on the driveway and hosed everything down. What we foundwas that this stuff not only removed the calcite but also etched themeteorites from the outside and ate a large hole in the driveway. Now I don't feel quite so wussy for asking advice on how best to dispose ofsome nitric a couple of weeks ago.;-) Gregory
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Hi Adam, Greg and Folks, Was this the Hippie that was selling the "magic cleaning solution" in the glass lined stainless steel/Titanium containerswhich read "WARNING: DO NOT MIX WITH WATER"? LOL Just wondered. Glad everything turned out OK. Best regards, Paul In a message dated 11/8/2003 12:13:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear List Members,"We had a pretty strange thing happen in our shop today. We purchased someso-called "magic cleaning potion" at the Denver show from a hippie that hadbeautiful mineral specimens for sale. He told us the stuff works great forremoving calcite from minerals. We asked about meteorites and he said itwould be safe because it is natural, does not pollute and is a "greenproduct". We mixed up a batch with some distilled water as he directed andthrew a handful of Taza irons into the solution. What happened next waspretty scary."
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Hi Paul and List, It came in an unlabeled glass jar with a plastic lid. Image if this stuff would have leaked out of our luggage on our way back from the show on the flight home. If we see this guy next year we will thank him for not warning us about this stuff. Hopefully no one else purchased any. All the best, Adam - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stange Happenings in the Shop Hi Adam, Greg and Folks, Was this the Hippie that was selling the "magic cleaning solution" in the glass lined stainless steel/Titanium containerswhich read "WARNING: DO NOT MIX WITH WATER"? LOL Just wondered. Glad everything turned out OK. Best regards, Paul In a message dated 11/8/2003 12:13:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "We had a pretty strange thing happen in our shop today. We purchased someso-called "magic cleaning potion" at the Denver show from a hippie that hadbeautiful mineral specimens for sale. He told us the stuff works great forremoving calcite from minerals. We asked about meteorites and he said itwould be safe because it is natural, does not pollute and is a "greenproduct". We mixed up a batch with some distilled water as he directed andthrew a handful of Taza irons into the solution. What happened next waspretty scary."
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In a message dated 11/7/2003 10:31:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The bucket started to bubble (or boil, we are not sure) and a noxious brown cloud that smelt like rotten eggs permeated our shop gagging everybody present. We were tempted to call a hazmat team but decided to deal with the problem ourselves. We didn't have gas masks so we had to reenter the shop with wet towels over our faces, put the bucket outside and open the windows. Once we felt it was safe to go near the bucket we dumped out the contents on the driveway and hosed everything down. What we found was that this stuff not only removed the calcite but also etched the meteorites from the outside and ate a large hole in the driveway. Now I don't feel quite so wussy for asking advice on how best to dispose of some nitric a couple of weeks ago.;-) Gregory Will you give the high-bidder the bucket (what's left of it) or a picture of the driveway as a souvenir I am sorry, but I had a good laugh on this one. Anne M. Black www. IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356
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Impactika writes: Will you give the high-bidder the bucket (what's left of it) Yes, sounds like the sort of thing that would draw some bids (or some fun, anyway) at Michael Blood's auction in Tucson! Gregory
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Sure, we will even throw in pieces of the asphalt that washed away as we hosed down the driveway. No kidding, this is some really nasty stuff. We relocated the rest of the bottle of "magic cleaning potion" at least 200 feet away from the house behind a boulder. Now we have to decide what to do with it in the morning. All the best, Adam - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stange Happenings in the Shop In a message dated 11/7/2003 10:31:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The bucket started to bubble (or boil, we are not sure) and a noxious brown cloud that smelt like rotten eggs permeated our shop gagging everybody present. We were tempted to call a hazmat team but decided to deal with the problem ourselves. We didn't have gas masks so we had to reenter the shop with wet towels over our faces, put the bucket outside and open the windows. Once we felt it was safe to go near the bucket we dumped out the contents on the driveway and hosed everything down. What we found was that this stuff not only removed the calcite but also etched the meteorites from the outside and ate a large hole in the driveway. Now I don't feel quite so wussy for asking advice on how best to dispose of some nitric a couple of weeks ago.;-) Gregory Will you give the high-bidder the bucket (what's left of it) or a picture of the driveway as a souvenir I am sorry, but I had a good laugh on this one. Anne M. Black www. IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356
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In a message dated 11/7/2003 10:59:20 PM Mountain Standard Time, Sharkk b8 writes: Impactika writes: Will you give the high-bidder the bucket (what's left of it) Yes, sounds like the sort of thing that would draw some bids (or some fun, anyway) at Michael Blood's auction in Tucson! Gregory Excellent idea! But, between the Oatmeal Cookie and that cleaning solution, I wonder if Adam and Greg will ever come back to Denver. :-) Anne M. Black www. IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356
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That...was...awesome! Ahh, tears in my eyes Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Stange Happenings in the Shop Dear List Members, We had a pretty strange thing happen in our shop today. We purchased some so-called magic cleaning potion at the Denver show from a hippie that had beautiful mineral specimens for sale. He told us the stuff works great for removing calcite from minerals. We asked about meteorites and he said it would be safe because it is natural, does not pollute and is a green product. We mixed up a batch with some distilled water as he directed and threw a handful of Taza irons into the solution. What happened next was pretty scary. The bucket started to bubble (or boil, we are not sure) and a noxious brown cloud that smelt like rotten eggs permeated our shop gagging everybody present. We were tempted to call a hazmat team but decided to deal with the problem ourselves. We didn't have gas masks so we had to reenter the shop with wet towels over our faces, put the bucket outside and open the windows. Once we felt it was safe to go near the bucket we dumped out the contents on the driveway and hosed everything down. What we found was that this stuff not only removed the calcite but also etched the meteorites from the outside and ate a large hole in the driveway. If we would have soaked them overnight like the hippie advised there probably would have been nothing left including the bucket. Needless to say, this will be a limited addition item as we are going back to the air-abrasion tool method to clean irons. Assuming this stuff was some kind of very powerful acid we neutralized the irons using baking soda, washed them with pure ethyl alcohol and heat treated them. Although it was a bad experience, the end product looks pretty cool. If you are interested in seeing what they look like check out this link: http://www.lunarrock.com/11-7/taza1.jpg To help offset the costs of repairing the driveway, we are making this limited addition run available on eBay. If you are interested, here is the link: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritelab/ Wishing everybody well, Adam and Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection IMCA 2185 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
