Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?)
I have a ~120 kg endpiece of Nantan, cut by Robert Ward ~4 years ago, looks better than my cut Gibeon which shows some rust in Tucson, Nantan flawless. I will have many nice pieces of this Nantan in Ensisheim/St Marie next month. Michael Farmer --- On Tue, 5/10/11, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: From: Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 2:04 PM Marcin wrote: Not all nantans rust !!! I have two bigger and both of them are stable. And right you are, Marcin! I should have written: Some of them rust(ed) faster than ... I actually have a 335 gr Nantan endcut with a big troilite inclusion and it has been stable for at least 20 years now! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?)
FWIW- I think that NANTAN get's a bad rap just from how old the fall is, and there is typically a lot of external rust and terrestrialization after 500 some-odd years. Lawrencite disease doesn't seem to be a real problem with them from what I have seen. -Barrett -Original Message- I have a ~120 kg endpiece of Nantan, cut by Robert Ward ~4 years ago, looks better than my cut Gibeon which shows some rust in Tucson, Nantan flawless. I will have many nice pieces of this Nantan in Ensisheim/St Marie next month. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?)
Hi Mike and List, I have a very nice etched slice of Nantan I bought from you...a while back. It's as pristine as the day I got it. Here in the desert we worry more about age cracks than rusting :0) I can only guess how tough it must be on the collectors who live where there is water and trees and grass and flowers and one can sit in front of a fire in the winter and knoodle with a loved one. And in the summer you don't have to sleep naked on top of the sheets with the iar conditioning blowing... and your loved one is too hot and sticky to knoodle. Trade offs...that's what it is..trade offs. Guido -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Sent: May 11, 2011 6:33 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?) I have a ~120 kg endpiece of Nantan, cut by Robert Ward ~4 years ago, looks better than my cut Gibeon which shows some rust in Tucson, Nantan flawless. I will have many nice pieces of this Nantan in Ensisheim/St Marie next month. Michael Farmer --- On Tue, 5/10/11, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: From: Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 2:04 PM Marcin wrote: Not all nantans rust !!! I have two bigger and both of them are stable. And right you are, Marcin! I should have written: Some of them rust(ed) faster than ... I actually have a 335 gr Nantan endcut with a big troilite inclusion and it has been stable for at least 20 years now! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?)
Hi Guido, Michael, Bernd and all, I am delighted that the word is FINALLY getting out about good NanTans. I have hyped them since the old VOYAGE! magazine days. They are interesting, unique, and all of mine are surprisingly stable - And remember, in San Diego I won't even deal in cut irons due to the Salt sea air. Perhaps I can look up the old photos I have of natural Nan Tan Xls. Michael On 5/11/11 11:54 AM, Met. Count Guido Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Mike and List, I have a very nice etched slice of Nantan I bought from you...a while back. It's as pristine as the day I got it. Here in the desert we worry more about age cracks than rusting :0) I can only guess how tough it must be on the collectors who live where there is water and trees and grass and flowers and one can sit in front of a fire in the winter and knoodle with a loved one. And in the summer you don't have to sleep naked on top of the sheets with the iar conditioning blowing... and your loved one is too hot and sticky to knoodle. Trade offs...that's what it is..trade offs. Guido -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Sent: May 11, 2011 6:33 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?) I have a ~120 kg endpiece of Nantan, cut by Robert Ward ~4 years ago, looks better than my cut Gibeon which shows some rust in Tucson, Nantan flawless. I will have many nice pieces of this Nantan in Ensisheim/St Marie next month. Michael Farmer --- On Tue, 5/10/11, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: From: Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 2:04 PM Marcin wrote: Not all nantans rust !!! I have two bigger and both of them are stable. And right you are, Marcin! I should have written: Some of them rust(ed) faster than ... I actually have a 335 gr Nantan endcut with a big troilite inclusion and it has been stable for at least 20 years now! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. Bob Dylan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?)
Speaking of Nantans, there was a brief moment in time when the name changed to Nandan. Does anyone know what the real name is? Anita From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Met. Count Guido Deiro countde...@earthlink.net; Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Met. Bernd Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 7:05:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?) Hi Guido, Michael, Bernd and all, I am delighted that the word is FINALLY getting out about good NanTans. I have hyped them since the old VOYAGE! magazine days. They are interesting, unique, and all of mine are surprisingly stable - And remember, in San Diego I won't even deal in cut irons due to the Salt sea air. Perhaps I can look up the old photos I have of natural Nan Tan Xls. Michael On 5/11/11 11:54 AM, Met. Count Guido Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Mike and List, I have a very nice etched slice of Nantan I bought from you...a while back. It's as pristine as the day I got it. Here in the desert we worry more about age cracks than rusting :0) I can only guess how tough it must be on the collectors who live where there is water and trees and grass and flowers and one can sit in front of a fire in the winter and knoodle with a loved one. And in the summer you don't have to sleep naked on top of the sheets with the iar conditioning blowing... and your loved one is too hot and sticky to knoodle. Trade offs...that's what it is..trade offs. Guido -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Sent: May 11, 2011 6:33 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?) I have a ~120 kg endpiece of Nantan, cut by Robert Ward ~4 years ago, looks better than my cut Gibeon which shows some rust in Tucson, Nantan flawless. I will have many nice pieces of this Nantan in Ensisheim/St Marie next month. Michael Farmer --- On Tue, 5/10/11, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: From: Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 2:04 PM Marcin wrote: Not all nantans rust !!! I have two bigger and both of them are stable. And right you are, Marcin! I should have written: Some of them rust(ed) faster than ... I actually have a 335 gr Nantan endcut with a big troilite inclusion and it has been stable for at least 20 years now! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. Bob Dylan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?)
Anita and List, The correct name spelling for Nantan in Hanyu Pinyin (commonly called just Pinyin) is Nandan. Hanyu Pinyin was adopted in Communist Mainland China in 1958 as the standard form of romanization. When in China spell it like the Chinese! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin Nandan References: http://en.cnki.com.cn/Article_en/CJFDTOTAL-HJSU199208007.htm If I worked at I suppose that I could find 2 or 3 more spellings using various systems of romanization schemes. IF you are going to do research you will have to use both Nandan and Nantan to find the literature. Best Regards, Wu Xun-Ci (Dirk Ross) ...Tokyo --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Anita Westlake anitawestl...@att.net wrote: From: Anita Westlake anitawestl...@att.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?) To: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net, Met. Count Guido Deiro countde...@earthlink.net, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com, Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Met. Bernd Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 11:05 AM Speaking of Nantans, there was a brief moment in time when the name changed to Nandan. Does anyone know what the real name is? Anita From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Met. Count Guido Deiro countde...@earthlink.net; Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Met. Bernd Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 7:05:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?) Hi Guido, Michael, Bernd and all, I am delighted that the word is FINALLY getting out about good NanTans. I have hyped them since the old VOYAGE! magazine days. They are interesting, unique, and all of mine are surprisingly stable - And remember, in San Diego I won't even deal in cut irons due to the Salt sea air. Perhaps I can look up the old photos I have of natural Nan Tan Xls. Michael On 5/11/11 11:54 AM, Met. Count Guido Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Mike and List, I have a very nice etched slice of Nantan I bought from you...a while back. It's as pristine as the day I got it. Here in the desert we worry more about age cracks than rusting :0) I can only guess how tough it must be on the collectors who live where there is water and trees and grass and flowers and one can sit in front of a fire in the winter and knoodle with a loved one. And in the summer you don't have to sleep naked on top of the sheets with the iar conditioning blowing... and your loved one is too hot and sticky to knoodle. Trade offs...that's what it is..trade offs. Guido -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Sent: May 11, 2011 6:33 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?) I have a ~120 kg endpiece of Nantan, cut by Robert Ward ~4 years ago, looks better than my cut Gibeon which shows some rust in Tucson, Nantan flawless. I will have many nice pieces of this Nantan in Ensisheim/St Marie next month. Michael Farmer --- On Tue, 5/10/11, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: From: Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] Nantan rusters (Was: Widmanstatten Pattern on the outside?) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 2:04 PM Marcin wrote: Not all nantans rust !!! I have two bigger and both of them are stable. And right you are, Marcin! I should have written: Some of them rust(ed) faster than ... I actually have a 335 gr Nantan endcut with a big troilite inclusion and it has been stable for at least 20 years now! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. Bob Dylan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan, not garbage
Hello Howard and fellow meteorite collectors: I agree with Michael Blood, not all Nantan are rusters or garbage. Out of all the many hundreds of meteorites that I have collected over some 14 years, one of my favorite slices is a 20.5 inch long by 13.5 inch high slice of Nantan. I did have to treat it with Bill Mason's rust prevention kit, and re-etch it shortly after buying it. This Nantan has stayed quite stable, mounted on a wall for many years now. It is gorgeous. I also have a large Nantan that almost split in two during flight, looks something like a heavy iron butterfly, and it shows no rust while being kept in one of my meteorite show cases for six or more years now, where I use VCI emitters. Keep in mind that I live in Colorado where the air is usually somewhat dry. High regards to all, Fred Hall __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan Meteorite Coin Images
Hi Mark, Congratulations on the work you did to have this coin minted! It is a beauty. Most people on the list probably don't know how much you contributed to this coin being minted. Best wishes, Michael on 10/25/06 10:27 AM, MARK BOSTICK at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, I have uploaded a couple photographs of the Nantan meteorite coin onto my website. I have saved most of the communications from me and the bank so at some point I will give a little background information on the coin. The coin in only 1 oz. silver, rather then 2 oz. silver, like the NWA 267 coin, and I imagine, a reflection of the increase in metal price the last year. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/Natancoin.html We have mentioned doing a possible 3rd coin. The first was a stone meteorite, the second was an iron meteorite, and the 3rd coin...you'll have to wait and see. (Tentive things are like that.) After a couple months on how the sale of the 2nd coin goes (first sold out almost instantly and was allocated, meaning not everyone got as many as they wanted), I will contact them again and see where we are. More later. At this time I will not be offering the coin for sale but can point you to the bank that sells them if you are interesting in large numbers. Registered shipping from their country is fairly exspensive (~$30), so if interested, you will likely do better on a single coin buying it on the secondary market. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/MeteoriteArticles __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan Meteorite Coin Images
I have to say I really like that Palau Meteorite coin. The farm scene with the meteorite is typical of how many meteorites are found by farmers plowing the field. The obverse is not exactly meteorite related but since its issued by a island nation appropriate I guess. Poseidon sitting between a mermaid or sea nymph and a treasure chest with an outrigger canoe typical of use in many pacific islands. The chest is probably supposed to be filled with jewels but I would like to think that the chest is filled with poseidons pearls (That he hid when a man got engaged to be married and a man had to find to give to his future wife or he wouldent have an happy marriage). Poseidon actually invented pearls for this reason and the only reason why oysters produce pearls today is because they are repaying a debt owed to poseidon. A one ounce coin is more a standard size than two ounces anyway and fits in more coin collectors album holders and probably a better size to make a coin for collectors and (Theoritically at least) cheaper to. I wish that I had some to sell in munich and on ebay (But I dont). It really looks like a particularly nice coin. Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com --- MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, I have uploaded a couple photographs of the Nantan meteorite coin onto my website. I have saved most of the communications from me and the bank so at some point I will give a little background information on the coin. The coin in only 1 oz. silver, rather then 2 oz. silver, like the NWA 267 coin, and I imagine, a reflection of the increase in metal price the last year. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/Natancoin.html We have mentioned doing a possible 3rd coin. The first was a stone meteorite, the second was an iron meteorite, and the 3rd coin...you'll have to wait and see. (Tentive things are like that.) After a couple months on how the sale of the 2nd coin goes (first sold out almost instantly and was allocated, meaning not everyone got as many as they wanted), I will contact them again and see where we are. More later. At this time I will not be offering the coin for sale but can point you to the bank that sells them if you are interesting in large numbers. Registered shipping from their country is fairly exspensive (~$30), so if interested, you will likely do better on a single coin buying it on the secondary market. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/MeteoriteArticles __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan Meteorite Coin Images
I have to say I really like that Palau Meteorite coin. The farm scene with the meteorite is typical of how many meteorites are found by farmers plowing the field. The obverse is not exactly meteorite related but since its issued by a island nation appropriate I guess. Poseidon sitting between a mermaid or sea nymph and a treasure chest with an outrigger canoe typical of use in many pacific islands. The chest is probably supposed to be filled with jewels but I would like to think that the chest is filled with poseidons pearls (That he hid when a man got engaged to be married and a man had to find to give to his future wife or he wouldent have an happy marriage). Poseidon actually invented pearls for this reason and the only reason why oysters produce pearls today is because they are repaying a debt owed to poseidon. A one ounce coin is more a standard size than two ounces anyway and fits in more coin collectors album holders and probably a better size to make a coin for collectors and (Theoritically at least) cheaper to. I wish that I had some to sell in munich and on ebay (But I dont). It really looks like a particularly nice coin. Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com --- MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, I have uploaded a couple photographs of the Nantan meteorite coin onto my website. I have saved most of the communications from me and the bank so at some point I will give a little background information on the coin. The coin in only 1 oz. silver, rather then 2 oz. silver, like the NWA 267 coin, and I imagine, a reflection of the increase in metal price the last year. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/Natancoin.html We have mentioned doing a possible 3rd coin. The first was a stone meteorite, the second was an iron meteorite, and the 3rd coin...you'll have to wait and see. (Tentive things are like that.) After a couple months on how the sale of the 2nd coin goes (first sold out almost instantly and was allocated, meaning not everyone got as many as they wanted), I will contact them again and see where we are. More later. At this time I will not be offering the coin for sale but can point you to the bank that sells them if you are interesting in large numbers. Registered shipping from their country is fairly exspensive (~$30), so if interested, you will likely do better on a single coin buying it on the secondary market. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/MeteoriteArticles __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] nantan :)
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 01:04:44 +0100, Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another perfect meteorite :) http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=44608item=6152121114rd=1 Zat ist der peiceofcrapun! On a similar note, I've been wanting a piece of Nantan, but I've heard nothing but bad things about how bad they rust. Anyone have any luck with any cut Nantan (short of extreme measures like storing it in a nitrogen chamber)? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] nantan :)
I actually had a 4 kilo Nantan individual for about 8 months and it held up much better than some of my Campos. The best thing about Nantan is how cheap they are. Good luck and get yourself a Dehumidifier to control the humidity in the room that your meteorites are kept in. Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] nantan :) On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 01:04:44 +0100, Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another perfect meteorite :) http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=44608item=6152121114rd=1 Zat ist der peiceofcrapun! On a similar note, I've been wanting a piece of Nantan, but I've heard nothing but bad things about how bad they rust. Anyone have any luck with any cut Nantan (short of extreme measures like storing it in a nitrogen chamber)? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] nantan :)
Another perfect meteorite :) http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=44608item=6152121114 rd=1 Zat ist der peiceofcrapun! On a similar note, I've been wanting a piece of Nantan, but I've heard nothing but bad things about how bad they rust. Anyone have any luck with any cut Nantan (short of extreme measures like storing it in a nitrogen chamber)? I buy two nantans when they are verry popular on eBay. They have inside healthy iron with few milimeters weathered layer outside. After cutting they not rusting. I have them in my workshop only once oiled with balistol and nothing happend. Polished surface have no rust, only from outside layer from time to time I see a drop of rusty water on it. Maybe I have any kind of new nantans ? Anyway its alvays some luck, some preservation skills maybe. The same we can scream that Campo rust like hell or dronino is self-destruction meteorite :)) but I not observe this. Ofcourse some meteorites rust more some less, but dont make problems bigger that they are :)) Anyway, chondrites rule -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan
Dear List: Chinese seem don't care about Meteorite very much. Since Sha Dynasty till 1911. China has meteorites fell records 365 times. There are 3 times meteorite shower record in China. Nantan is one, and another 2 records were Jilin stone meteorite showers. Ming Dynasty has records about Nantan iron meteorite, time is 1516. And China refund it in 1958, 19 pieces and total weight is 9500KG. Here are a China government link(written in Simple Chinese), you just need to type the location or province name and you can get some informations you want in Simple Chinese: http://www.geochem.csdb.cn/ysh.htm Hope I could get acquainted with more people who loves meteorites. A special stone from the Sky. Best Regards!! Eddie Lee from Taiwan - Original Message - From: Peanut .. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Nantan Hey List, Some People list Nantan as a 1516 fall and others as a 1958 find. Which is it? Cj __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi, Tett: Nice to know a guy who knows Taiwan! I will need to fly to Hong Kong and Dounguan city for my company on November 22. My company produce magnet for small motor and others. As you know South China has many tektites available,but so many wrong Nantan iron meteorites there. I am confusing with this. Here are China's Rock Research Center's link(China government) , but they only have Simple Chinese edition homepage could read(no English): http://geodb.gig.ac.cn/old_www/aero/myright2.htm The reader only need to type Province name or Meteorite name in Simple Chinese. Then, computer will tell you its fell age, meteorite content and location. It is nice to me, but it has never report in meteorite mailing list when most of people don't understand Chinese or Most of Chinese don't know meteorites at all! Although we know different types of iron meteorite has different kinds widemanns pattern but we must be confusing with Nantan when those sellers(China farmers) did not want to tell anybody truth about their found out area in Business! Here, I translate it into English for Chinese provincation: 25 fell records in GuanXi Province(Nantan iron meteorite's Province) totally Number Fell Time Fell Location in ancient time Old location in new place name now 125 1530 Shan-Shi-Chou GuanXi Province Shan-Shi County 135 1542.5.1 Chuan-Chou GuanXi Province Chuan-Chou County 273 1814 Ton Shian GuanXi Province Ton County 274 1815.7.31 Guey-Ping Shian GuanXi Province Guey-Ping County 292 1842 Gue-Shuen Chou GuanXi Province Gin-Shi County 315 1861.10.18 Lin-Shan Shian GuanXi Province Lin-Shan County 317 1851-1861 Ton Shian GuanXi Province Ton County 332 1871.9.17 Guey Shian GuanXi Province Guey County 339 1878.11.13 Wu-Uen Shian GuanXi province Wu-Ming County I think that is why there are some different types oxidized iron meteorites show in Intenet from China. Best Regards!! Eddie Lee - Original Message - From: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan Eddie, Glad to meet you! I am in Taiwan often and perhaps the next time we can meet up. Have made two trips there this year. Do you come to Hong Kong often? I am flying to Hong Kong on Monday and then of to Xiamen next week. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn aka tett Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada. - Original Message - From: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan Dear List: Chinese seem don't care about Meteorite very much. Since Sha Dynasty till 1911. China has meteorites fell records 365 times. There are 3 times meteorite shower record in China. Nantan is one, and another 2 records were Jilin stone meteorite showers. Ming Dynasty has records about Nantan iron meteorite, time is 1516. And China refund it in 1958, 19 pieces and total weight is 9500KG. Here are a China government link(written in Simple Chinese), you just need to type the location or province name and you can get some informations you want in Simple Chinese: http://www.geochem.csdb.cn/ysh.htm Hope I could get acquainted with more people who loves meteorites. A special stone from the Sky. Best Regards!! Eddie Lee from Taiwan - Original Message - From: Peanut .. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Nantan Hey List, Some People list Nantan as a 1516 fall and others as a 1958 find. Which is it? Cj __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Dear Lee Shen Sheng and List Members: Welcome to someone from Taiwan. I have lived in Taiwan for 16 years and now Japan for 8. Few Taiwanese or Chinese collect tektites/meteorites or research them. There is only one researcher that I know at Academica Sinica in Taipei. I have donated several to the Taiwanese Geological Survey and one museum in Taiwan. A few customers are aware of magic tektites, Dzi beads (`Tien Ju` magic agate beads reputedly from Heaven(99.999 are made in Taiwan and are Fakes) and sky metal amulets (also fake, reputedly to be made from metal meteorites); but the collectors are only interested because they believe they contain protective powers..as they were told by the sellers in order to sell them. If anyone is ever in this part of the world look me up or if you need help in Asia please ask. There are two Taiwan meteorites but they have both been lost. Best, dirk rosstokyo __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Nantan at $4.42g??? The world is ending!
I think it's quite amusing, maybe I should part with mine and put a $1000.00 start price on it and see what happens -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tom aka James Knudson Sent: Wed 14/01/2004 02:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [meteorite-list] Nantan at $4.42g??? The world is ending! Hello List, what's going on here, a regular 7g Nantan selling for $31 I don't get it! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2216876822 Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list 1^zXf)+-1^zXgz i0XwffX)+
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please correct me if I am wrong but is this not just a tektite. Definitely a tektite. Even withdifficult photos, it's a tektite. Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] nantan
My guess? Indochiniteand a very expensive one at that! ;-) Tim Gingell wrote: Please correct me if I am wrong but is this not just a tektite. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2206201663category=3239 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2206201663category=3239 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Yeseree, it's a teardrop shape INDOCHINITE. You can make out the flow lines and regmaglypts and the bright light yellow-brown color is right. I have a bunch of the different tektite shape. But $200.00 is nuts for a small one like that. The most I've ever paid for a really nice one of that size is $15.00 -$25.00. Later. * Roman (IMCA # 0583) From: Tim Gingell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] nantan Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:53:24 - Please correct me if I am wrong but is this not just a tektite. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2206201663category=3239 _ Say goodbye to busy signals and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Roman and others, This guy has it backwards. Selling a tektite as a Nantan makes no sense. You should always sell true tektites with a descriptive type name like Indochinites, and on occasion sell the Nantans as tektites...not the other way around. Selling a Nantan as a Nantan is a real loser these days...at least call it a meteorwrong like Hematite to get a decent buck or two($). Telling them it's going to the good of the IMCA also helps I hear. ;) gobble, gobble John John Yeseree, it's a teardrop shape INDOCHINITE. You can make out the flow lines and regmaglypts and the bright light yellow-brown color is right. I have a bunch of the different tektite shape. But $200.00 is nuts for a small one like that. The most I've ever paid for a really nice one of that size is $15.00 -$25.00. Later. * Roman (IMCA # 0583) From: Tim Gingell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] nantan Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:53:24 - Please correct me if I am wrong but is this not just a tektite. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2206201663category=3239 _ Say goodbye to busy signals and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan?
Sounds weathered Nantan to me, they are nearly shale some times, and if you are trying to etch shale, it sure wouldn´t etch. Have several better Nantans, only with some 1 mm rust, and they are pure FeNi inside and also etch ok. But if the whole specimen (also inside) is rusted, it´s normal, it can not be etched. take care, pekka Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello List, I have an old beat up Nantan, it is as ugly as can be! I had made a large window and the inside is the same dark color as the outside. Just for fun, I tried to etch it and nothing happened, does this sound normal for poor quality Nantans? Or, is this not a Nantan at all? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan Question: references online
The full text of the two 1994 Meteoritics articles mentioned by Bernd is available online at the NASA-ADS web site as pdf documents: Yau et al.: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-data_query?bibcode=1994Metic..29..864Ylink_type=ARTICLEdb_key=AST Chen Wang: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-data_query?bibcode=1994Metic..29..886Clink_type=ARTICLEdb_key=AST These are rather large objects, approx. 1.5 MB and 0.5 MB, and will take a while to download for those with slow modem connections. If the long URLs are a problem, go the the ADS query form: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abstract_service.html ...and enter: chinese meteorite ...in the Enter Title Words field, choose AND as the Combine with: option and click the Send Query button at the top of the form. With a little patience and cleverness you will be able to navigate your way to the full text of the articles from the list of links which will be returned from your query. Walter Branch, are you reading this? There is interesting material about human casualties and structural damage in the Yau et al. article, if you haven't already seen it! Best wishes to all, Piper Hollier At 15:06 10/02/02 +0100, you wrote: Greg Redfern wrote: Does anyone know if the Nantan Iron find in China has an established fall date of 1521? I saw a specimen advertised that listed the fall date which is not contained in the COM. Hi Greg and List, You won't find it in M. Grady's Catalogue because this information cannot be ascertained. I once heard about reports which are said to exist in the archives of Nandan County about a fall that occurred in 1516, sometime in May. But it wasn't before 1958 that people in China became aware of this historical record. I don't know if that is true but, at least, that's the date we find in the Catalogue. Buchwald doesn't mention Nantan and Wasson doesn't either. There is an article in Meteoritics 29-6, 1994 on Chinese meteorite falls but there is no mention of Nantan and 1521: YAU K. et al. (1994) Meteorite Falls in China and Some Ralated Human Casualty Events (Meteoritics 29-6, 1994, 864-871). In the same issue of Meteoritics, there is another article and the authors do mention Nantan as a IIICD iron but they also give the same date (1958) that you find in the Catalogue: CHEN Y. and WANG D. (1994) An Update of a Catalog of Chinese Meteorites (Meteoritics 29-6, 1994, 886-890). Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Dear Bernd, and Greg, I will also check Needham's series if I can find all vols. in my mess. Science and Civilisation in China Vols. I-III.Dirk Bernd Pauli HD wrote: Greg Redfern wrote: Does anyone know if the Nantan Iron find in China has an established fall date of 1521? I saw a specimen advertised that listed the fall date which is not contained in the COM. Hi Greg and List, You won't find it in M. Grady's Catalogue because this information cannot be ascertained. I once heard about reports which are said to exist in the archives of Nandan County about a fall that occurred in 1516, sometime in May. But it wasn't before 1958 that people in China became aware of this historical record. I don't know if that is true but, at least, that's the date we find in the Catalogue. Buchwald doesn't mention Nantan and Wasson doesn't either. There is an article in Meteoritics 29-6, 1994 on Chinese meteorite falls but there is no mention of Nantan and 1521: YAU K. et al. (1994) Meteorite Falls in China and Some Ralated Human Casualty Events (Meteoritics 29-6, 1994, 864-871). In the same issue of Meteoritics, there is another article and the authors do mention Nantan as a IIICD iron but they also give the same date (1958) that you find in the Catalogue: CHEN Y. and WANG D. (1994) An Update of a Catalog of Chinese Meteorites (Meteoritics 29-6, 1994, 886-890). Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Nantan Question
Dirk, Thank you very much and I look forward to seeing what you find. Greg -Original Message- From: drtanuki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 6:20 PM To: Bernd Pauli HD Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan Question Dear Bernd, and Greg, I will also check Needham's series if I can find all vols. in my mess. Science and Civilisation in China Vols. I-III.Dirk Bernd Pauli HD wrote: Greg Redfern wrote: Does anyone know if the Nantan Iron find in China has an established fall date of 1521? I saw a specimen advertised that listed the fall date which is not contained in the COM. Hi Greg and List, You won't find it in M. Grady's Catalogue because this information cannot be ascertained. I once heard about reports which are said to exist in the archives of Nandan County about a fall that occurred in 1516, sometime in May. But it wasn't before 1958 that people in China became aware of this historical record. I don't know if that is true but, at least, that's the date we find in the Catalogue. Buchwald doesn't mention Nantan and Wasson doesn't either. There is an article in Meteoritics 29-6, 1994 on Chinese meteorite falls but there is no mention of Nantan and 1521: YAU K. et al. (1994) Meteorite Falls in China and Some Ralated Human Casualty Events (Meteoritics 29-6, 1994, 864-871). In the same issue of Meteoritics, there is another article and the authors do mention Nantan as a IIICD iron but they also give the same date (1958) that you find in the Catalogue: CHEN Y. and WANG D. (1994) An Update of a Catalog of Chinese Meteorites (Meteoritics 29-6, 1994, 886-890). Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
