Re: [uf-discuss] hResume - notes on creation and some feedback wanted

2007-08-29 Thread Brian Suda
On 8/29/07, Ciaran McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2. Thinking of places to link to to add rel-tag links is problematic -
 at the moment I suspect people will err on the side of not using
 rel-tag

-- this has also been noted when some resume services let you add more
free-text than simple 1-2 word terms. Can you document your
experiences here:

http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-issues
http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-brainstorming

 3. A very common element in CVs is a list of skills and years
 experience with that skill.

--- if this is common can you please add examples to the wiki? Maybe
it was missed or omitted for some reason:

http://microformats.org/wiki/resume-brainstorming#Examples_Analysis

 Current skill markup is rel-tag which
 doesn't encapsulate this, so it may be an area to look at.

--- there has been a discussion of skill areas, but not really the
number or grading of a skill. This can be problematics, people who
have been driving for 70+ years have more experience, but are not
always better. Same would go for a 4 of 5 rating. These ratings (by
years or rating) are abritary to the individual. I know some listings
say 3-5 years experience i am assuming that is the use-case for
dating skills?

You could experiment with tagging and adding skills to an experience
event. vevents can take categoies which can be rel-tags. So if i had
a skill in 2001, then you could deduce date()-2001= years with skill.
You can always use POSH markup at the moment too.

 4. I've seen this discussed before without resolution - there doesn't
 seem to be a way of marking up 'the present' as a finish date for an
 experience vevent.

as Ted said Just leave out the dtend and you should be all set.

i didn´t see this on the FAQ page, so please add this with an answer.
http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-faq

Then others can iterate on it as needed.

thanks,
-brian

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Re: [uf-discuss] hResume - notes on creation and some feedback wanted

2007-08-29 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On 8/29/07, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  2. Thinking of places to link to to add rel-tag links is problematic -
  at the moment I suspect people will err on the side of not using
  rel-tag

 -- this has also been noted when some resume services let you add more
 free-text than simple 1-2 word terms. Can you document your
 experiences here:

 http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-issues
 http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-brainstorming

I will do - in some ways it's more to do with the fact I *have* to
link to an external site just to indicate what 'PHP' is, which seems
like a heavy load to place on the user.

  3. A very common element in CVs is a list of skills and years
  experience with that skill.

 --- if this is common can you please add examples to the wiki? Maybe
 it was missed or omitted for some reason:

I can only really put my own CV on there, my only evidence is
anecdotal based on looking at a lot of (UK) developer's CVs lately.

 You could experiment with tagging and adding skills to an experience
 event. vevents can take categoies which can be rel-tags. So if i had
 a skill in 2001, then you could deduce date()-2001= years with skill.

That's a very good idea, thanks

  4. I've seen this discussed before without resolution - there doesn't
  seem to be a way of marking up 'the present' as a finish date for an
  experience vevent.

 as Ted said Just leave out the dtend and you should be all set.

 i didn´t see this on the FAQ page, so please add this with an answer.
 http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-faq

I think your message has crossed with my reply to Ted  - this isn't on
the faq page because it's an existing issue on the hresume-issues
page.

I've no objection to leaving off dtend as a solution but I think it
would need to be added to the hResume spec as a departure from iCal.

-Ciaran McNulty

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Re: [uf-discuss] hResume - notes on creation and some feedback wanted

2007-08-29 Thread Brian Suda
On 8/29/07, Ciaran McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think your message has crossed with my reply to Ted  - this isn't on
 the faq page because it's an existing issue on the hresume-issues
 page.

 I've no objection to leaving off dtend as a solution but I think it
 would need to be added to the hResume spec as a departure from iCal.

--- yes, we did just miss messages. According to the RFC an event
without a DTEND is to be treated as a 1 day event.

I also looked into DURATION as a possible solution, but that is no
different than constantly updating a DTEND. It would somehow still be
tied to a specific instance of the page. so i could uses now() and
have a server-side script generate the current date, but as things got
exported it would be frozen into the exported file as that date.

If an imaginary value of present were invented, then parsers would
probably do the same thing can take the current date() and save that
out to the file, otherwise DTEND:present wouldn't be a valid .ics
file.

this will take some thought. At the moment i think the easiest
solution is to either leave off DTEND or add it in programiatically
with the now()

feel free to document the options on the hreusme-issues page in more
detail and any possible solutions (if any)

-brian

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Re: [uf-discuss] hResume - notes on creation and some feedback wanted

2007-08-29 Thread Scott Reynen

On Aug 29, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Brian Suda wrote:


If an imaginary value of present were invented, then parsers would
probably do the same thing can take the current date() and save that
out to the file, otherwise DTEND:present wouldn't be a valid .ics
file.

this will take some thought. At the moment i think the easiest
solution is to either leave off DTEND or add it in programiatically
with the now()


iCalendar supports repeated events with no end.  I wonder if we could  
use that to suggest ongoing events.  For example, instead of saying I  
started my current employment on 2007-05-31 with no end, I could say  
I started at 2007-05-31 09:00:00, ended at 2007-05-31 17:00:00, and  
repeat that every weekday with no end to the repetition.  That's  
probably more information than anyone's actually publishing, but if  
that's workable in iCalendar, we could maybe come up with a shorthand  
for it in hCalendar.


Peace,
Scott
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