Re: [Mixxx-devel] mixxx 1.11 in mac
Am 13.02.2014 12:07, schrieb DJ's Unidos - DJ Anderson Farias: Hi, I'm from Brazil. My name is Anderson Farias. I am visually impaired and have used Mixxx in Windows XP through the Accessibility Project QT library. What do I need to use it on Mac too with accessibility? Thank you, Hi Anderson, that's a very good question. I did not know there were any accessibility features usable with Mixxx. What features were available to you on Win XP? What is needed to further improve accessibility? Especially since the current skins are not flexible in any way, I doubt accessibility is any good with current Mixxx. But that should probably be of concern for the people currently working on the skin engine overhaul. Mixxx could become the most accessible DJ app out there. That would surely be nice. (I'm thinking high contrast color schemes and font size) It seems Qt applications need to provide the qt accessibility plugin to provide basic accessibility features. On OS X and Windows it is used by default when it is available (according to the docs). Probably the build you have just did not bundle it? Did you build Mixxx from the repository yourself or download from the website? It is probably an error of the Mac bundle process. Hmmm, I just realized there is an old bug report for that issue. It says this way fixed in 1.10 already. We probably need to reopen that... The report is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bug/772025 The bug report says accessibility for Mac should be provided as of Qt 4.8. Your Mixxx bundle might be built against an older version of Qt. So you need a more recent build (but the build servers currently have problems) or build it yourself. Greetings snu -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today http://mixxx.org Mixxx-devel mailing list Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel
Re: [Mixxx-devel] mixxx 1.11 in mac
We do bundle the Qt Accessibility library in our builds on Mac and Windows. On Linux we don't control the Qt release (it's provided by the OS) so we have less control. The main issue with VoiceOver support is that Qt's accessibility implementation on OS X is based on Carbon and not Cocoa. They promised Cocoa support in Qt 4.8 but it didn't happen. I believe Qt 5.2 works with VoiceOver but I haven't tried it. We are gradually making the switch to Qt5. Mixxx already builds fine with Qt 5.2 and I expect Mixxx 1.13 will be the first release that includes it by default but we can produce alternate 1.12.0 builds with Qt 5.2. Hopefully that will provide a temporary solution for people who want VoiceOver support. Thanks, RJ On Thu Feb 13 2014 at 8:14:41 AM, Stefan Nürnberger kabelfrick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 13.02.2014 12:07, schrieb DJ's Unidos - DJ Anderson Farias: Hi, I'm from Brazil. My name is Anderson Farias. I am visually impaired and have used Mixxx in Windows XP through the Accessibility Project QT library. What do I need to use it on Mac too with accessibility? Thank you, Hi Anderson, that's a very good question. I did not know there were any accessibility features usable with Mixxx. What features were available to you on Win XP? What is needed to further improve accessibility? Especially since the current skins are not flexible in any way, I doubt accessibility is any good with current Mixxx. But that should probably be of concern for the people currently working on the skin engine overhaul. Mixxx could become the most accessible DJ app out there. That would surely be nice. (I'm thinking high contrast color schemes and font size) It seems Qt applications need to provide the qt accessibility plugin to provide basic accessibility features. On OS X and Windows it is used by default when it is available (according to the docs). Probably the build you have just did not bundle it? Did you build Mixxx from the repository yourself or download from the website? It is probably an error of the Mac bundle process. Hmmm, I just realized there is an old bug report for that issue. It says this way fixed in 1.10 already. We probably need to reopen that... The report is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bug/772025 The bug report says accessibility for Mac should be provided as of Qt 4.8. Your Mixxx bundle might be built against an older version of Qt. So you need a more recent build (but the build servers currently have problems) or build it yourself. Greetings snu -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151; iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today http://mixxx.org Mixxx-devel mailing list Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today http://mixxx.org Mixxx-devel mailing list Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel
Re: [Mixxx-devel] mixxx 1.11 in mac
I filed a bug for fixing VoiceOver support (even though it basically amounts to upgrading to Qt 5.2.x). There's also a related bug for adding richer accessibility information to our widgets: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bugs?field.tag=accessibility On Thu Feb 13 2014 at 12:54:23 PM, Russell Ryan russelljr...@gmail.com wrote: We do bundle the Qt Accessibility library in our builds on Mac and Windows. On Linux we don't control the Qt release (it's provided by the OS) so we have less control. The main issue with VoiceOver support is that Qt's accessibility implementation on OS X is based on Carbon and not Cocoa. They promised Cocoa support in Qt 4.8 but it didn't happen. I believe Qt 5.2 works with VoiceOver but I haven't tried it. We are gradually making the switch to Qt5. Mixxx already builds fine with Qt 5.2 and I expect Mixxx 1.13 will be the first release that includes it by default but we can produce alternate 1.12.0 builds with Qt 5.2. Hopefully that will provide a temporary solution for people who want VoiceOver support. Thanks, RJ On Thu Feb 13 2014 at 8:14:41 AM, Stefan Nürnberger kabelfrick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 13.02.2014 12:07, schrieb DJ's Unidos - DJ Anderson Farias: Hi, I'm from Brazil. My name is Anderson Farias. I am visually impaired and have used Mixxx in Windows XP through the Accessibility Project QT library. What do I need to use it on Mac too with accessibility? Thank you, Hi Anderson, that's a very good question. I did not know there were any accessibility features usable with Mixxx. What features were available to you on Win XP? What is needed to further improve accessibility? Especially since the current skins are not flexible in any way, I doubt accessibility is any good with current Mixxx. But that should probably be of concern for the people currently working on the skin engine overhaul. Mixxx could become the most accessible DJ app out there. That would surely be nice. (I'm thinking high contrast color schemes and font size) It seems Qt applications need to provide the qt accessibility plugin to provide basic accessibility features. On OS X and Windows it is used by default when it is available (according to the docs). Probably the build you have just did not bundle it? Did you build Mixxx from the repository yourself or download from the website? It is probably an error of the Mac bundle process. Hmmm, I just realized there is an old bug report for that issue. It says this way fixed in 1.10 already. We probably need to reopen that... The report is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bug/772025 The bug report says accessibility for Mac should be provided as of Qt 4.8. Your Mixxx bundle might be built against an older version of Qt. So you need a more recent build (but the build servers currently have problems) or build it yourself. Greetings snu -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/ 4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today http://mixxx.org Mixxx-devel mailing list Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today http://mixxx.org Mixxx-devel mailing list Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel
Re: [Mixxx-devel] mixxx 1.11 in mac
OK -- I confirmed tonight that VoiceOver works fine for menus in Qt 5.2.x. Mixxx widgets themselves do not support accessibility on any platform, and that's covered by this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bug/1239812 On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Russell Ryan russelljr...@gmail.comwrote: I filed a bug for fixing VoiceOver support (even though it basically amounts to upgrading to Qt 5.2.x). There's also a related bug for adding richer accessibility information to our widgets: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bugs?field.tag=accessibility On Thu Feb 13 2014 at 12:54:23 PM, Russell Ryan russelljr...@gmail.com wrote: We do bundle the Qt Accessibility library in our builds on Mac and Windows. On Linux we don't control the Qt release (it's provided by the OS) so we have less control. The main issue with VoiceOver support is that Qt's accessibility implementation on OS X is based on Carbon and not Cocoa. They promised Cocoa support in Qt 4.8 but it didn't happen. I believe Qt 5.2 works with VoiceOver but I haven't tried it. We are gradually making the switch to Qt5. Mixxx already builds fine with Qt 5.2 and I expect Mixxx 1.13 will be the first release that includes it by default but we can produce alternate 1.12.0 builds with Qt 5.2. Hopefully that will provide a temporary solution for people who want VoiceOver support. Thanks, RJ On Thu Feb 13 2014 at 8:14:41 AM, Stefan Nürnberger kabelfrick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 13.02.2014 12:07, schrieb DJ's Unidos - DJ Anderson Farias: Hi, I'm from Brazil. My name is Anderson Farias. I am visually impaired and have used Mixxx in Windows XP through the Accessibility Project QT library. What do I need to use it on Mac too with accessibility? Thank you, Hi Anderson, that's a very good question. I did not know there were any accessibility features usable with Mixxx. What features were available to you on Win XP? What is needed to further improve accessibility? Especially since the current skins are not flexible in any way, I doubt accessibility is any good with current Mixxx. But that should probably be of concern for the people currently working on the skin engine overhaul. Mixxx could become the most accessible DJ app out there. That would surely be nice. (I'm thinking high contrast color schemes and font size) It seems Qt applications need to provide the qt accessibility plugin to provide basic accessibility features. On OS X and Windows it is used by default when it is available (according to the docs). Probably the build you have just did not bundle it? Did you build Mixxx from the repository yourself or download from the website? It is probably an error of the Mac bundle process. Hmmm, I just realized there is an old bug report for that issue. It says this way fixed in 1.10 already. We probably need to reopen that... The report is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bug/772025 The bug report says accessibility for Mac should be provided as of Qt 4.8. Your Mixxx bundle might be built against an older version of Qt. So you need a more recent build (but the build servers currently have problems) or build it yourself. Greetings snu -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/ 4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today http://mixxx.org Mixxx-devel mailing list Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today http://mixxx.org Mixxx-devel mailing list Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel
