Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list statistics for 2013-05-07

2013-05-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Im not sure if anyone else agrees with me, but is there a way that
moderators can be notified if someone else has moderated a message? Lets
say i moderated a message and allowed it to its respective list how will
other moderators know that the message has already been moderated or is
that handled by the back end?


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Florian Effenberger 
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hi,

 Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-07 17:12:

 What was this generated by? can as well statistics be generated on a per
 moderator basis?


 it's a shell script.
 What do you mean by a per moderator basis? Mailing moderators individually
 with their stats?

 I think that doesn't make sense. It takes development work for the script,
 plus someone to maintain the list of what to send to whom. Interested
 moderators can simply subscribe to this list (which they should do anyways)
 and are in the loop...

 Florian




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Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list statistics for 2013-05-07

2013-05-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
ahh ok :) sorry for all the topics im all over the place and my mind seems
to be short circuiting lol.


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Florian Effenberger 
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hi,

 Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-07 17:16:

  Im not sure if anyone else agrees with me, but is there a way that
 moderators can be notified if someone else has moderated a message? Lets
 say i moderated a message and allowed it to its respective list how will
 other moderators know that the message has already been moderated or is
 that handled by the back end?


 can we probably stick with one subject at a time? What does this have to
 do with the mailing list statistics? ;-)

 But to answer your question:
 There is no such way. mlmmj is purely mail based, which has its advantages
 (like not having to enter passwords for moderation as it is with Mailman) -
 but we cannot remove moderation mails sent out once. However, a double
 moderation doesn't happen, so if someone moderates a mail that has been
 sent out already, nothing happens.

 Florian




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Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list statistics for 2013-05-07

2013-05-07 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jonathan,

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
eagles051...@gmail.com wrote:
 Im not sure if anyone else agrees with me, but is there a way that
 moderators can be notified if someone else has moderated a message?

That is trivially achieved by delivering that moderated message to the
mailinglist.
No need for extra notification. When the message is on the list, no
need to moderate it anymore. Also if poster recognizes his mistake of
posting with a non-subscribed address and reposts using a subscribed
one, no need to moderate the message (but in this case a notifcation
for moderators is not even possible. So no gain at all, only more
messages to go through for moderators.

 Lets
 say i moderated a message and allowed it to its respective list how will
 other moderators know that the message has already been moderated or is
 that handled by the back end?

See above. And even if they are not subscribed to the list (which
makes very little sense for regular moderators): moderating a message
twice doesn't do any harm. Moderator's job is to verify whether the
mail is authentic and not spam, and for that to decide you don't need
much time.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list statistics for 2013-05-07

2013-05-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
That is true :) what would you all recommend in terms of recieving a
message in another language would it be best practice to run it through
google translate?


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Christian Lohmaier
lohma...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi Jonathan,

 On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
 eagles051...@gmail.com wrote:
  Im not sure if anyone else agrees with me, but is there a way that
  moderators can be notified if someone else has moderated a message?

 That is trivially achieved by delivering that moderated message to the
 mailinglist.
 No need for extra notification. When the message is on the list, no
 need to moderate it anymore. Also if poster recognizes his mistake of
 posting with a non-subscribed address and reposts using a subscribed
 one, no need to moderate the message (but in this case a notifcation
 for moderators is not even possible. So no gain at all, only more
 messages to go through for moderators.

  Lets
  say i moderated a message and allowed it to its respective list how will
  other moderators know that the message has already been moderated or is
  that handled by the back end?

 See above. And even if they are not subscribed to the list (which
 makes very little sense for regular moderators): moderating a message
 twice doesn't do any harm. Moderator's job is to verify whether the
 mail is authentic and not spam, and for that to decide you don't need
 much time.

 ciao
 Christian




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Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list statistics for 2013-05-07

2013-05-07 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-07 17:38:

That is true :) what would you all recommend in terms of recieving a
message in another language would it be best practice to run it through
google translate?


I usually reply in English, telling that this list is in another 
language, and point to the right list for his language. I then translate 
my English text via Google translate and add it to the reply.


Florian

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