Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01
Dave Rolsky writes: I'm still trying to decide between sticking with WWW::Map or switching to WWW::MapService. How about WebService::Map? Search the [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives for WebService and you'll see that there have been recent attempts to distinguish between modules that help implement generic webby things (in WWW::) from those which are an interface to a service which just happens to be provided by websites (in WebService::). Admittedly there are web-servicey modules in the WWW:: namespace, mostly from before anybody had thought to make the distinction, but that isn't a reason for making the situation any worse. WWW::MapService is odd from a hierarchical point of view, cos then it encourages other modules to be named along the lines of: WWW::ISBNService WWW::PriceCompareService WWW::TrainTimesService (And sorry for not saying this earlier -- I mentally composed something like the above message when I saw your original mail, but it took me a couple of days to find the time to type it out!) Smylers
Re: Perl's Sacrifice Stone
khemir nadim wrote: I started a vonlontary review on Perl Monks. I don't know if it's the best place but since they have reviews I thought it would be a good place to start with (and I couldn't think of a better place). It hasn't given any result so far :-) . If some of you would be nice enough to review the module I put there or put a module that they want to be reviewed, that might start things up. So far this node has been ignored and downvoted. I suggest you start by creating a perl monks account (rather than posting anonymously). Then hang around for a while to get a feel for how the place works. If you want someone to review your module, it seems best to start by first reviewing someone else's module. /-\ Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01
* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-10 01:02]: Right now I'm leaning towards either keeping WWW::Map or going with WWW::MapService. I think the former is actually reasonably clear given the WWW namespace, which is all about interacting with web stuff, not generating HTML or anything like that. I was not thinking about HTML generation either when I said WWW::Map makes me think of sitemaps or linkmaps. I was more thinking of an object that helps me programmatically express, navigate, manipulate the webbing of one or more sites.. that sort of thing. I don't like using WWW::Geo since the modules that mention Geo seem to be more in the processing geographic data area, though it's a pretty nebulous top-level namespace. I agree and was thinking the same when I proposed ::MapService -- it's not really about geographic data.. But this: Sure, but some of the others won't. The module is really designed for addresses, and if you don't give it enough info to get an address map, it won't even create an object. I could probably change it to have a loose mode that allowed this, but it's not really helpful for me, so I'll just say patches welcome ;) as well as this: * Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-10 11:32]: Calling it StreetMap would definitively remove the possibility of making links that aren't to actual addresses, which as someone pointed out, is possible with at least MapQuest. You can plug in Minneapolis, MN and it'll give you a map of the area. make me think what you want is ::LocationMap. Regards, -- Aristotle If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough.
Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01
What about WWW::Service::Map??? That would seem to fit. On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Dave Rolsky wrote: On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, David Wheeler wrote: On Jul 9, 2004, at 3:43 PM, Dave Rolsky wrote: This'd be great _except_ that www.maplink.com is the website for a map/travel book company. Too confusing. WWW::MapLinker? That implies that it's a module that performs an action (linking), as opposed to a module that is something (a link). I'm still trying to decide between sticking with WWW::Map or switching to WWW::MapService. -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/ Christopher Josephes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Smylers wrote: How about WebService::Map? Search the [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives for WebService and you'll see that there have been recent attempts to distinguish between modules that help implement generic webby things (in WWW::) from those which are an interface to a service which just happens to be provided by websites (in WebService::). Yeah, taking a look at the existing WebService modules it seems like this might be a better top level namespace. My only reservation is that unlike all the others, this module does not actually interact with the websites, it simply generates a link. -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/
Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01
On Jul 9, 2004, at 8:46 PM, Dave Rolsky wrote: WWW::MapLinker? That implies that it's a module that performs an action (linking), as opposed to a module that is something (a link). WWW::MapLink, then. David
Re: Perl's Sacrifice Stone
khemir nadim wrote: Hi, I started a vonlontary review on Perl Monks. I don't know if it's the best place but since they have reviews I thought it would be a good place to start with (and I couldn't think of a better place). It hasn't given any result so far :-) . If some of you would be nice enough to review the module I put there or put a module that they want to be reviewed, that might start things up. Hmm, we have: 1) Simon's code review ladder: http://lists.netthink.co.uk/listinfo/code-review-ladder 2) Ask's CPAN Ratings: http://cpanratings.perl.org/ 3) Perl Monks' Reviews: http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node=Reviews Each has a slightly different focus, but there is some overlap. A part of me wonders if they should be at least loosely linked together instead of remaining 3 independant but related review tools for authors users; maybe one review site with two faces, one to help module users find modules and the other to help module authors improve their modules. Randy.
Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01
Dave Rolsky wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2004, Scott W Gifford wrote: Right now I'm leaning towards either keeping WWW::Map or going with WWW::MapService. I think the former is actually reasonably clear given the WWW namespace, which is all about interacting with web stuff, not generating HTML or anything like that. I like WWW::StreetMap, since that's exactly what they are, and is short and unambiguous. I don't think WWW::MapService is much better than WWW:Map, but then again I don't think WWW::Map is that bad. :) Calling it StreetMap would definitively remove the possibility of making links that aren't to actual addresses, which as someone pointed out, is possible with at least MapQuest. You can plug in Minneapolis, MN and it'll give you a map of the area. I'm not sure it does. I've worked alot with mapping software (mostly DeLorme StreeAtlas and MapQuest), and I always think of a street map/atlas as a tool to _locate_ or _find_ any type _place_ or _location_ whether it by address, by place name, by postal code, by coordinates, etc. You might also (if you haven't already) consider possible extensions such as routing directions. Randy.
Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01
On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 08:46:31AM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Smylers wrote: How about WebService::Map? Search the [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives for WebService and you'll see that there have been recent attempts to distinguish between modules that help implement generic webby things (in WWW::) from those which are an interface to a service which just happens to be provided by websites (in WebService::). Yeah, taking a look at the existing WebService modules it seems like this might be a better top level namespace. My only reservation is that unlike all the others, this module does not actually interact with the websites, it simply generates a link. Not a major distinction in this case. WebService::* seems fine. As for the module name, how about: WebService::LocationMapLink Tim.
