Re: Spam to CPAN Developers? (Fwd: Betonmarkets CTO position)

2011-09-06 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:23:03AM -0600, Andy Lester wrote:
 
 On Feb 10, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Jonathan Yu wrote:
 
  Has anyone else got a message like this to their CPAN Developer e-mail
  address? I'm curious if this is the beginning of a really bad trend
  toward CPAN author spamming :/
 
 
 Yes. Maybe, but I doubt it.
 
 I'm praying that we can chalk it up to some guy in Malaysia sending us  
 all mail, and this doesn't turn into a huge metadiscussion.

It didn't turn into a metadiscussion.

But it does seem that the *only* firm that is* spamming CPAN authors is
Betonmarkets, as they've done it *again*.

Life would be quieter if they kindly ceased trading.

(Because that seems a more reliable way for them to stop, than issuing
an apology then repeating the offence every 18 months)

Nicholas Clark

* or fails to stop agents acting on their behalf.


Re: Spam to CPAN Developers? (Fwd: Betonmarkets CTO position)

2011-09-06 Thread Olof Johansson
On 2011-09-06 10:15 +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
 But it does seem that the *only* firm that is* spamming CPAN authors is
 Betonmarkets, as they've done it *again*.

Well, that's not true. They are however one of very few that could
pass as ham, and will therefore pass through many spam filters. The
problem is that there is a list of 8630 non obfuscated e-mail
addresses in the /authors/00whois.xml file. I'm not sure this can or
should be changed, but it makes CPAN authors an easy target.

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Re: Spam to CPAN Developers? (Fwd: Betonmarkets CTO position)

2011-09-06 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:52 AM, Olof Johansson o...@cpan.org wrote:
 Well, that's not true. They are however one of very few that could
 pass as ham, and will therefore pass through many spam filters. The
 problem is that there is a list of 8630 non obfuscated e-mail
 addresses in the /authors/00whois.xml file. I'm not sure this can or
 should be changed, but it makes CPAN authors an easy target.

Since aut...@cpan.org generally forwards somewhere useful, it's not
the whois file that matters.

I've gotten similar spam (from another company) that got my email off github.

I think recruiter spam is just one of those things to ignore.  At
least it's *topical* unlike the email about winning a million pounds
in a British lottery.

-- David


Re: Spam to CPAN Developers? (Fwd: Betonmarkets CTO position)

2011-09-06 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 10:44:47AM -0400, David Golden wrote:

 Since aut...@cpan.org generally forwards somewhere useful, it's not
 the whois file that matters.
 
 I've gotten similar spam (from another company) that got my email off github.
 
 I think recruiter spam is just one of those things to ignore.  At
 least it's *topical* unlike the email about winning a million pounds
 in a British lottery.

But this is somewhat more like pissing in the pool that most of it.

One is supposed to ignore spam, so as not to encourage the spammers.
Topical spam is troubling, because it's *still spam*, but there's now a
contradiction between ignoring it, and wanting to follow it up.

I believe (but can't find it) that they apologised for this last time.*
In which case they're proving not to be effective at sticking to their word.

Also, Claes attempted to reply to it and met a challenge-response system.
Not sure what else they can do to make themselves look more stupid.

Hence why I'd like them to kindly cease trading.

Nicholas Clark

* Actually, it seems that Uri was also working to help them recruit, and so
  was going to tell their CEO that this was a foolish move as it breaks the
  rules:
  http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20100208/019134.html