Re: James Freeman's other modules (was: Re: CGI::Simple)
Fergal Daly wrote: Changing the subject from Keenan to Freeman (James Keenan is not MIA), Yes, the reports of my demise are quite premature. Ironically, today we had the first meeting of Perl Seminar NY's Phalanx Phoenix project (http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=586406), whose explicit purpose is to train new maintainers of CPAN modules. And thereby reduce the number of Perl modules abandoned in the future! jimk
Re: James Keenan's other modules (was: Re: CGI::Simple)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12 Jan 2007, at 10:16, David Landgren wrote: Do we wait until someone else manifests a need to dust off one of them to hand over maintenance? Or do we forget about it until next time? If it's worth it, then I would volunteer. Actually I was thinking of volunteering for the whole lot of them - but then decided that they're probably not that valuable to anyone. I was also wondering whether - given that backpan exists so people can always find them if they really want them - there shouldn't be a mechanism for removing modules that are unloved and unused. - -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFp2e0woknRJZQnCERAquJAJ4hKkNHZKS3u3JnhRbcPd9k7xUm9wCfaKfK M8tnMc8hzZxL8BlEEyAMtVg= =k1gg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: James Freenan's (not Keenan's) other modules (was: Re: CGI::Simple)
On 12 Jan 2007, at 10:56, Adriano Ferreira wrote: For the record, James Keenan is an active developer (http://search.cpan.org/~jkeenan/). The modules in question were found in James Freeman's directory (http://search.cpan.org/~jfreeman/). Did anyone mention James Keenan? -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net
Re: James Freeman's other modules (was: Re: CGI::Simple)
On 12 Jan 2007, at 10:58, Fergal Daly wrote: Changing the subject from Keenan to Freeman (James Keenan is not MIA), Ah - I didn't even read the subject :) -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net
Re: James Freeman's other modules (was: Re: CGI::Simple)
Changing the subject from Keenan to Freeman (James Keenan is not MIA), F On 12/01/07, Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12 Jan 2007, at 10:16, David Landgren wrote: Do we wait until someone else manifests a need to dust off one of them to hand over maintenance? Or do we forget about it until next time? If it's worth it, then I would volunteer. Actually I was thinking of volunteering for the whole lot of them - but then decided that they're probably not that valuable to anyone. I was also wondering whether - given that backpan exists so people can always find them if they really want them - there shouldn't be a mechanism for removing modules that are unloved and unused. - -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFp2e0woknRJZQnCERAquJAJ4hKkNHZKS3u3JnhRbcPd9k7xUm9wCfaKfK M8tnMc8hzZxL8BlEEyAMtVg= =k1gg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: James Keenan's other modules (was: Re: CGI::Simple)
On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:49 AM, Andy Armstrong wrote: I was also wondering whether - given that backpan exists so people can always find them if they really want them - there shouldn't be a mechanism for removing modules that are unloved and unused. How in the world could you determine either unloved or unused? And unupdated certainly doesn't mean that they're not valuable. -- Andy Lester = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = www.petdance.com = AIM:petdance
Re: CGI::Simple
On 10 Jan 2007, at 04:07, Ken Williams wrote: Wow, that's the smoothest I've ever seen one of these transfers go. A useful module, an obviously deadbeat developer, an eager volunteer (and only one!), it's the perfect storm. I think the term 'deadbeat developer' might be a little harsh for someone who obviously invested considerable time, care and skill into producing a module that many have since found useful :) -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net
Re: CGI::Simple
On 10 Jan 2007, at 11:27, Ovid wrote: Yes, that was the one I meant. It seemed like a major obstacle for this module. Well that works on an out of the box MP2 installation on my laptop here now. MP1 still works too fortunately :) If it's still supposed to be a drop in replacement for CGI.pm it has a few other problems - it no longer passes the CGI.pm conformance test (which is disabled in the distro). As I say I'll work through all the issues I can find. Once Ask or whoever gives me permissions the new release will appear in the index. For now it can be found here: http://cpan.org/modules/by-authors/id/A/AN/ANDYA/CGI-Simple-0.078.tar.gz Cheers. -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net
Re: CGI::Simple
--- Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Jan 2007, at 04:07, Ken Williams wrote: Wow, that's the smoothest I've ever seen one of these transfers go. A useful module, an obviously deadbeat developer, an eager volunteer (and only one!), it's the perfect storm. I think the term 'deadbeat developer' might be a little harsh for someone who obviously invested considerable time, care and skill into producing a module that many have since found useful :) While the term might be a little harsh, I do have to agree with Ken about how ridiculously smooth this went. I simply feared we'd have another module go down in oblivion :) Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book -- http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Perl and CGI -- http://users.easystreet.com/ovid/cgi_course/
Re: CGI::Simple
Andy Armstrong did write: Once Ask or whoever gives me permissions the new release will appear in the index. For now it can be found here: http://cpan.org/modules/by-authors/id/A/AN/ANDYA/CGI-Simple-0.078.tar.gz Ping brian d foy, but I imagine he's already watching this thread. DAvid
Re: CGI::Simple
On 10 Jan 2007, at 17:32, David Landgren wrote: Andy Armstrong did write: Once Ask or whoever gives me permissions the new release will appear in the index. For now it can be found here: http://cpan.org/modules/by-authors/id/A/AN/ANDYA/CGI- Simple-0.078.tar.gz Ping brian d foy, but I imagine he's already watching this thread. I've mailed modules@perl.org which I think he watches. I've CC'd this to him in case he doesn't thanks. -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net
Re: CGI::Simple
On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:29 AM, Ovid wrote: --- Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Jan 2007, at 04:07, Ken Williams wrote: Wow, that's the smoothest I've ever seen one of these transfers go. A useful module, an obviously deadbeat developer, an eager volunteer (and only one!), it's the perfect storm. I think the term 'deadbeat developer' might be a little harsh for someone who obviously invested considerable time, care and skill into producing a module that many have since found useful :) While the term might be a little harsh, I do have to agree with Ken about how ridiculously smooth this went. Yeah, I didn't mean to cast aspersions, I just meant it seemed clear that this was someone no longer interested in his module, so it was obviously ripe for a new maintainer. -Ken
Re: CGI::Simple
On 9 Jan 2007, at 10:13, Ovid wrote: I'm not particularly keen on taking over this distribution, but he's not fixing this bug or even responding. He also notes that Perl is a fond corner of [his] past, suggesting that unless someone snags CGI::Simple, this very popular (and useful!) module will not be fixed. I'm happy to take it on and fix any outstanding bugs. I was looking at it just the other day coincidentally. -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net
Re: CGI::Simple
On 9 Jan 2007, at 10:13, Ovid wrote: Has anyone heard from James Freeman, the maintainer of CGI::Simple (http://search.cpan.org/dist/Cgi-Simple/)? It's not been updated in a couple of years, the outstanding bugs appear to mostly be related to the same issue, and I tried emailing him about this using the contact email he provided at http://www.perlmonks.org/?node=tachyon. I'm not particularly keen on taking over this distribution, but he's not fixing this bug or even responding. He also notes that Perl is a fond corner of [his] past, suggesting that unless someone snags CGI::Simple, this very popular (and useful!) module will not be fixed. I've just made a new release that tidies up the tests (they now use Test::More), adds support for mod_perl 2 (tested locally but almost certainly needs more testing). I'm going to hit the mod_perl mailing lists to try to recruit someone who can test it in a realistic mp2 environment. When you say 'the outstanding bugs' were you referring to the mp2 issue? I'm planning to work through all the bugs but I guessed that that one was probably the most pressing. -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net
