Re: M_Boats: Maiden Voyage of our M17
David, On our M17 I had the same question regarding the 110 working jib. I experimented and found it worked best for me when attached at the deck. Also, seeing the boat under sail with the jib attached low looked to funnel air optimally to the mainsail. Sounds like your mast slot is below the boom? On our 17 the mast slot is above the boom and I have the problem of the sail slugs falling out when lowering the main. In either case you can use a sail-stop to keep the mast up (or sail slugs) from falling out. Or, I use 2 wraps of 1/4 shock cord around the mast in a loop like a rubber band. The shock cord can be slid up/down the mast as needed and doesn't fall overboard. I need the 2 - 3 lower sail slugs to come out of the mast track for reefing and the shock cord is flexible enough to reach up and pull them out. When we lived in Idaho Falls we sailed Jackson Lake with our Laguna but never with our Montgomery. Beautiful lake! Randy Graves M17 #410 Post Falls, ID From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:54 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Maiden Voyage of our M17 We set sail on the maiden voyage of our M17, Excursive, this past weekend. We put in at Jackson Lake, WY and had a wonderful 2 day sail on the lake with the Tetons in the back ground. We live within several hours of Jackson Lake so will sail there on weekends until Yellowstone Lake opens for overnight stays. I have several questions for the group. 1. Concerning the front stay and jib, we hank on our jib, it falls short by 12 or so from reaching the top of the mast. I was wondering what others have done to length the tack cringle attachment. This is where the jib attached at the bow deck point. 2. I need to adjust the main sail boom so the sail does not fall out during reefing or taking down the main sail. Any ideas? On our past sail boat, Nimble 20, the boom was fixed to a point on the mast and this was not an issue. In a strong wind, it's a bit unsettling to have the main sail come out of the track. 3. When we were out Saturday we noticed another Montgomery 15 or 17, to far away to id, motoring on the lake. If anyone has info on the owner we would like to know. 4. We have the burp issue as well. 5. As far as accommodations, my wife and I slept in the v-berth and my son, 19 and 6'4, slept in the quarter berth. We all had plenty of room. New boat, first night out there's always plenty of room, we'll see as the summer progresses. Over all the boat is great to sail and handle. David Schuster, MCSE, MCP+I Client Services for Information Technology McKee, Marburger Fagnant, P.C. 185 South 5th Street Lander, Wyoming 82520 Bus: 307-332-4545 Fax: 307-332-3271 Dir: 307-332-1782 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the latest tax information by visiting our web site: http://www.mmfcpa.com www.mmfcpa.com CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE This communication may contain information relative to federal tax issues. This communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue Service. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This communication and the information it contains is intended for the person or organization to whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential. Unauthorized use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact us immediately. ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: Maiden Voyage of our M17
David, To keep the boom throat from dropping during reefing etc: You can buy a fitting that fits into the boltrope track below the boom and has a knurled knob to tighten it. Try West Marine to order online. Ron M17 #14 Griselda From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:54:45 -0600 Subject: M_Boats: Maiden Voyage of our M17 We set sail on the maiden voyage of our M17, Excursive, this past weekend. We put in at Jackson Lake, WY and had a wonderful 2 day sail on the lake with the Tetons in the back ground. We live within several hours of Jackson Lake so will sail there on weekends until Yellowstone Lake opens for overnight stays. I have several questions for the group.1. Concerning the front stay and jib, we hank on our jib, it falls short by 12 or so from reaching the top of the mast. I was wondering what others have done to length the tack cringle attachment. This is where the jib attached at the bow deck point. 2. I need to adjust the main sail boom so the sail does not fall out during reefing or taking down the main sail. Any ideas? On our past sail boat, Nimble 20, the boom was fixed to a point on the mast and this was not an issue. In a strong wind, it's a bit unsettling to have the main sail come out of the track. 3. When we were out Saturday we noticed another Montgomery 15 or 17, to far away to id, motoring on the lake. If anyone has info on the owner we would like to know. 4. We have the burp issue as well. 5. As far as accommodations, my wife and I slept in the v-berth and my son, 19 and 6'4, slept in the quarter berth. We all had plenty of room. New boat, first night out there's always plenty of room, we'll see as the summer progresses. Over all the boat is great to sail and handle.David Schuster, MCSE, MCP+I Client Services for Information Technology McKee, Marburger Fagnant, P.C. 185 South 5th Street Lander, Wyoming 82520 Bus: 307-332-4545 Fax: 307-332-3271 Dir: 307-332-1782 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Get the latest tax information by visiting our web site: http://www.mmfcpa.com www.mmfcpa.com CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE This communication may contain information relative to federal tax issues. This communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue Service. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This communication and the information it contains is intended for the person or organization to whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential. Unauthorized use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact us immediately. ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _ Earn cashback on your purchases with Live Search - the search that pays you back! http://search.live.com/cashback/?pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=earncashback ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: Maiden Voyage of our M17
David, To keep the sail in the track you need a sail track stop, which is a slug with a knurled nut to tighten it into the sail track. West Marine sells them for a few bucks. There were several posts on this topic just a couple of weeks ago. You put the stop in after the sail slugs are fed into the track, and it keeps them in the track until you release them. Rick M-17 #633 Lynne L ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: Maiden Voyage of our M17
On Jun 17, 2008, at 9:54 AM, David Schuster wrote: 1. Concerning the front stay and jib, we hank on our jib, it falls short by 12 or so from reaching the top of the mast. I was wondering what others have done to length the tack cringle attachment. This is where the jib attached at the bow deck point. My original Reggie Armstrong working jib did the same thing, when attached to the stem head fitting at deck level. In normal weather, probably not a bad thing, as it lowers the center of gravity. I always attach my tack at the deck level. But when the wind pipes up, if you were to take a wave over the bow (I never have), a wave hitting the jib would not be good. For that, you can carry a small pendant of stainless cable, with eyes swaged to both ends, a little shorter than the distance the head falls short of going to the masthead. That would get your jib up off the deck. That way, you can still tension the luff of the jib with the halyard. Tie on the pendant to the sail tack with a shackle. But for that level of weather, you would want a smaller storm jib anyway. BTW, for those who have not seen it, GREAT.no better than that.article by Jerry Montgomery on heavy weather sails and setup for an M17. Once wind tops 25 knots, I'm down to a double reefed main and Ullman 65% storm jib with high clew. Just a little blade hanging up there. Still going fast and in control. ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: Maiden Voyage of our M17
Ooops. That would be in the latest issue of Small Craft Advisor. On Jun 17, 2008, at 2:09 PM, Howard Audsley wrote: BTW, for those who have not seen it, GREAT.no better than that.article by Jerry Montgomery on heavy weather sails and setup for an M17. ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: Maiden voyage in big seas
Robbin, I'd be interested in seeing/talking with you about your gel coating experiences. I just bought hull #201 (I inquired about your M-15 but it was sold) which has several dings, cracks, scapes, etc. in the gel coat that need tending too. I was going to bring in the professionals for lack of experience on my part. Did you color match the gel coat or are you painting? I have so many questions, too many to type. Can we take this off line? I live in MD also and I know what you mean about the weather. I spent the day working on the trailer getting it ready for inspection. I bought the boat knowing it needed work and planned on spending the winter working on her in my garage. Boy was yesterday hard to pass up!! But with an unregistered trailer and boat I thought it would be best to keep her in the garage. Kind Regards, Skip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:43 PM Subject: M_Boats: Maiden voyage in big seas Hey all, the weather hit 70+ yesterday allowing me to spray gelcoat on the areas on Miss Take that I had ground out from the blistering. I had brushed gelcoat on earlier in the week with less than professional results. It turned out absolutely fabulous. So when it hit 70+ again today I drove her over to Breezy Point MD with my son and headed out. Great ride even though the waves had to be 4-5' . We only put the main up with all the wind but she was very nice. Great surfing on the way back in! I took pictures of all the gelcoat attempts leading up to the final successful job. If any are interested I can pass them along to the MSOG site. Lots of good tips on what not to do! Cheers, Robbin 75' M-17 Miss Take ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: Maiden voyage in big seas
Hi Robbin, Yes, send the shots of the gelcoat repair. And other shots as well. If you would like to mail a dick, write me off list. Or, just E-mail them to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now is a good time to put an album of shots together. In another month or so, I'll be not on line for a while. Thanks, Bill On 11/11/06, Robbin Roddewig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, the weather hit 70+ yesterday allowing me to spray gelcoat on the areas on Miss Take that I had ground out from the blistering. I had brushed gelcoat on earlier in the week with less than professional results. It turned out absolutely fabulous. So when it hit 70+ again today I drove her over to Breezy Point MD with my son and headed out. Great ride even though the waves had to be 4-5' . We only put the main up with all the wind but she was very nice. Great surfing on the way back in! I took pictures of all the gelcoat attempts leading up to the final successful job. If any are interested I can pass them along to the MSOG site. Lots of good tips on what not to do! Cheers, Robbin 75' M-17 Miss Take ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: Maiden voyage in big seas
Hi again Robbin, I hate it when the spell checker says send it... make that If you would like to send a disc. Bill On 11/12/06, Bill Lamica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Robbin, Yes, send the shots of the gelcoat repair. And other shots as well. If you would like to mail a dick, write me off list. Or, just E-mail them to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now is a good time to put an album of shots together. In another month or so, I'll be not on line for a while. Thanks, Bill On 11/11/06, Robbin Roddewig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, the weather hit 70+ yesterday allowing me to spray gelcoat on the areas on Miss Take that I had ground out from the blistering. I had brushed gelcoat on earlier in the week with less than professional results. It turned out absolutely fabulous. So when it hit 70+ again today I drove her over to Breezy Point MD with my son and headed out. Great ride even though the waves had to be 4-5' . We only put the main up with all the wind but she was very nice. Great surfing on the way back in! I took pictures of all the gelcoat attempts leading up to the final successful job. If any are interested I can pass them along to the MSOG site. Lots of good tips on what not to do! Cheers, Robbin 75' M-17 Miss Take ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: Maiden voyage in big seas
No Worries Bill. I will poke around the Photo site and make sure the pictures are in the right format and then mail them with a narrative on all the attempts. Thanks Robbin Bill Lamica wrote: Hi again Robbin, I hate it when the spell checker says send it... make that If you would like to send a disc. Bill On 11/12/06, Bill Lamica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Robbin, Yes, send the shots of the gelcoat repair. And other shots as well. If you would like to mail a dick, write me off list. Or, just E-mail them to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now is a good time to put an album of shots together. In another month or so, I'll be not on line for a while. Thanks, Bill On 11/11/06, Robbin Roddewig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, the weather hit 70+ yesterday allowing me to spray gelcoat on the areas on Miss Take that I had ground out from the blistering. I had brushed gelcoat on earlier in the week with less than professional results. It turned out absolutely fabulous. So when it hit 70+ again today I drove her over to Breezy Point MD with my son and headed out. Great ride even though the waves had to be 4-5' . We only put the main up with all the wind but she was very nice. Great surfing on the way back in! I took pictures of all the gelcoat attempts leading up to the final successful job. If any are interested I can pass them along to the MSOG site. Lots of good tips on what not to do! Cheers, Robbin 75' M-17 Miss Take ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: maiden voyage
Thanks, Connie, for all the good information. Yes, I do have a genoa which apparantly was only used a few times. The jib is not in good shape, from the quick inspection I did, but should be usable until I can afford to replace it. I'm not quite sure when to use a jib and when to use a genoa - I think the genoa is for lighter wind.? The block for it disappeared when Joe owned it, so I do have to replace that. There is a boom downhaul - I just didn't think to attach it, as we never took the boom off my other boat and therefore the downhaul was always connected. Hopefully I won't make that mistake again. Cherri -- From: Conbert H Benneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M_Boats: maiden voyage Date: Sun, Apr 21, 2002, 9:00 PM Hi Cherri, Congratulations on your first sail, ..and join the crowd! I think we've all been there and have had similar experiences. The solution to your problem of having the sail slides fall out is to have a sail stop. This is a round slug that fits in the mast slot and has a large round nut on the outside that you can tighten and there-by lock the sail slides in place. See WEST Catalog.. You also need a boom downhaul. At the moment, without looking at it I can't tell you exactly how it is rigged. but basically you have a line going from the bottom of the boom through an eye and back to a cleat. This keeps the boom from riding up, and falling out of the slot in the mast. It also allows you to add tension to the leach of the main sail to change the sail shape. An easy solution for the slide problem is to just tie a piece of bungee cord around the mast. Then the slides can't get by the bungee cord and fall out of the slot. Bungee cord is eductated rubber bands. It has a woven cover over an interior of rubber strands. It comes in various dameters, and a 1/8th inch piece should solve your problem. Just wrap it around the mast twice and put a square knot in it - pulling it tight enough so that it won't slide on the mast. Problem solved! Don't release the topping lift until after you have the main up and the halyard cleated off. Then release the topping lift so that the main can assume it's proper shape (topping lift with some slack). Do you really have a genoa? I only have a regular jib, and the fairleads for that are on the cabin top and the sheet goes to a cam cleat. May you always have fair winds and a hands breadth of water under your keel. Connie GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: maiden voyage
Hi Cherri, Congratulations on your first sail, ..and join the crowd! I think we've all been there and have had similar experiences. The solution to your problem of having the sail slides fall out is to have a sail stop. This is a round slug that fits in the mast slot and has a large round nut on the outside that you can tighten and there-by lock the sail slides in place. See WEST Catalog.. You also need a boom downhaul. At the moment, without looking at it I can't tell you exactly how it is rigged. but basically you have a line going from the bottom of the boom through an eye and back to a cleat. This keeps the boom from riding up, and falling out of the slot in the mast. It also allows you to add tension to the leach of the main sail to change the sail shape. An easy solution for the slide problem is to just tie a piece of bungee cord around the mast. Then the slides can't get by the bungee cord and fall out of the slot. Bungee cord is eductated rubber bands. It has a woven cover over an interior of rubber strands. It comes in various dameters, and a 1/8th inch piece should solve your problem. Just wrap it around the mast twice and put a square knot in it - pulling it tight enough so that it won't slide on the mast. Problem solved! Don't release the topping lift until after you have the main up and the halyard cleated off. Then release the topping lift so that the main can assume it's proper shape (topping lift with some slack). Do you really have a genoa? I only have a regular jib, and the fairleads for that are on the cabin top and the sheet goes to a cam cleat. May you always have fair winds and a hands breadth of water under your keel. Connie GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
RE: M_Boats: maiden voyage
We were actually a little worried that the mast would go because the shrouds were loose As I recall, you were sailing with the main only, so the rigging wasn't tensioned by the jib halyard. I like to get some tension on the forestay, and the way I found to do that was to put a quick-release shroud tensioner on it (West Marine model number 246167). This is an over center type fitting, and by combining it with a ball-detent quick-release pin the job of attaching and tensioning the forestay becomes quick easy. Giles Morris Arlington VA Vancouver 25 Dolphin Montgomery 15 Umiaq Sundry small craft ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
RE: M_Boats: maiden voyage
wade the boat back to the dock Sounds like my first weekend sailing. It was a weekend school, and on Saturday and the morning of Sunday we were out in heavy wooden gaff-rigged lapstrake dinghies. The teachers had a sense of humor, though, because on Sunday afternoon I was told you've done ok, why don't you (and girlfriend) take that out this afternoon?. That was a Firefly -- at that time just retired as an Olympic class. Pure racing dinghy, light weight, chock-a-block with control lines, buoyancy bags etc. (Imagine a large and powerful black horse with blazing eyes. Snorting, skipping about at on the tether and in a bad temper). I, too, ended up wading back to the dock pulling the thing. Giles Morris Arlington VA Vancouver 25 Dolphin Montgomery 15 Umiaq Sundry small craft ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
RE: M_Boats: Maiden Voyage Adventures
Hi: Just to reinforce earlier messages on this topic. Sailing is, among other things, several sets of complex motor skills. Such sets are not well established until practiced at least 30 times. Planning, patience, and practice are critical to a sense of competence and comfort in the constantly changing conditions encountered by crew and craft. Still learning, cheers- Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978) -Original Message- From: Joe Kidd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: M_Boats: Maiden Voyage Adventures Cherri, If we all told stories about our first time out in a new boat, the title of the anthology would be, Murphy's Law. Just keep the faith, enjoy the adventure and learn from your mistakes. You become a sailor by asking questions, reading, watching others, taking directions, experimenting, making mistakes and learning to plan ahead. Once you get the feel of your boat, a kind of symbiotic relationship develops. Sometimes when my boat is completely overwhelmed by a sudden gust, I throw off the sheets and let her take care of herself while I collect my wits. Remember that a well designed sailboat will usually round up into the wind and set there if you just set her free. As you learn to trust yourself and your craft, the level of pleasure will grow and the moments of frustration will dissipate. As per the difference between a bungee and shock cord, there is very little; they are both elastic lines, but a bungee has hazardous hooks on each end. Joe Kidd M15 #207 Poco a Poco ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: maiden voyage
Mark, Do you have a sail stop in your collection of boat parts? If not West Marine will be happy to sell you one, I'd buy a couple they are cheap tend to get lost. A small round clamp that fastens itself to the mast groove, between whichever sail slide you need to retain no more will your sail drop out the bottom. Sail like there's no tomorrow Wayne - Original Message - From: Mark Pavuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:42 PM Subject: M_Boats: maiden voyage Yesterday my friend and I took Cherri's Jubilee out for the first time. We had trailered it to a marina to do bottom paint, change the pennant, and put in the pivot pin. I also added a red boot stripe, so now she looks really flashy. We motored out of the marina, turned into the wind, tried to raise the main, and all hell broke loose, so to speak. The main sail slides kept slipping out of the mast, which also caused the boom to come out of the mast, plus we had mistakenly released the topping lift. I'm sure you all can imagine what those few minutes were like, until we decided to start over again. My point is how do you raise the sail without the slides falling out? My other boat had some sort of clasp type thing that held them in unless released, but this has nothing. I couldn't even raise the sail all the way up because the bottom one would slip out. With all that, she sailed beautifully, even with just the main up (I didn't want any more surprises by that time and decided to wait till next time for the jib). I also am missing a genoa block and don't know how and where to replace that - West Marine? While in the marina, the boat got alot of attention and questions, even from some of the 30 - 40 ' sailboat owners. Some were interested in getting one for sailing in the bay. Cherri Pavuk Cherri's Jubilee, M-15 #322 Toms River, NJ ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: maiden voyage
Hi Cherri, The stopper that Giles is talking about is called a track stop and the kind I use on my M15 is the round 1/2 inch diameter one. In the 2002 West Marine catalog it is shown on page 1018 and is model 108332 for $ 7.49. As Giles also mentioned they do go overboard quite frequently so if you go that way you might want to buy two. On his M15 I think Joe Kidd uses some sort of bungee wrapped around the mast after the sail slugs go in the track. I never thought of drilling a hole in the mast and using some sort of pin. Thanks for that thought Giles, something to mull over. On the bright side Cherri, the forestay did not come loose and drop the mast. Don Olson M15 Phoenix, Az ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: maiden voyage
Thanks, Don, (and Giles) for the info. We were actually a little worried that the mast would go because the shrouds were loose. It was still fun and a gorgeous evening to be sailing. Cherri -- From: Don Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M_Boats: maiden voyage Date: Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 5:10 PM Hi Cherri, The stopper that Giles is talking about is called a track stop and the kind I use on my M15 is the round 1/2 inch diameter one. In the 2002 West Marine catalog it is shown on page 1018 and is model 108332 for $ 7.49. As Giles also mentioned they do go overboard quite frequently so if you go that way you might want to buy two. On his M15 I think Joe Kidd uses some sort of bungee wrapped around the mast after the sail slugs go in the track. I never thought of drilling a hole in the mast and using some sort of pin. Thanks for that thought Giles, something to mull over. On the bright side Cherri, the forestay did not come loose and drop the mast. Don Olson M15 Phoenix, Az ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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Yes Giles idea is best, a pin on a lanyard, thats what I used on my 23. Dick Morris, Giles wrote: Hope that it was actually fun, despite the surprises. how do you raise the sail without the slides falling out? After pushing the slugs up into the groove you could buy a stopper from West Marine when you go for the block -- check what size you're going to need. Or you could drill a hole so that you can put a pin across the mast, through the track, so that the pin blocks the slugs from falling. (And I'm sure you can guess how quickly the pin or stopper will leap overboard if not tied onto a piece of line). Giles Morris Arlington VA Vancouver 25 Dolphin Montgomery 15 Umiaq Sundry small craft ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Re: M_Boats: maiden voyage
Cherri, Congratulations on your maiden voyage. Your adventure sounded very much like one of my first trips - improperly secured sails led to my being blown into a narrow swampy inlet from which I was unable to tack out - a stink pot came to my rescue - the ultimate embarrassment ! There isn't much more that could have gone wrong with your maiden voyage - so from now on you may certainly anticipate smooth sailing and grand adventure showing off that beautiful boat. Had Carol II out today for the first time this season - grand day on Little Back River and a little nip out into the Chesapeake Bay. Stan Winarski M-15, #177, Carol II ___ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
