[Mpls] Interest group Endorsements of 3rd Ward candidates
This election is very rushed and involves candidates with limited funding. Maybe instead of giving them more work with your tests and questionaires and such, you should do a little research yourself and then endorse a candidate. It takes time to write a questionaire, why not spend it elsewhere? -Mike Jones Uptown _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virusxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_virusprotection_3mf ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward race- does the Gay community have a friend in this race?
Dyna, Very interesting post, and a bit revisionist I think. You mention how only 3 candidates screened with Stonewall and OM is the only candidate to have won the approval of the Stonewall Caucaus, yet during the time of that three week ago challenge you also said: I'm a member of the Stonewall DFL board, one of 2 board members that live in the 3rd ward. Why was I given no notice of this screening? Why was no notice given on the Stonewall DFL's board and general membership mailing list? Were all the DFL candidates given notice of this screening? -[Mpls] RE: Minneapolis Third Ward Politics, December 8th and Also, some of the candidates apparently weren't invited to screen for the Stonewall DFL endorsement. At this time (sunday evening) I have yet to receive a request as a Stonewall DFL Board Member for a vote on an endorsement. It will thusly be impossible for Stonewall DFL to endorse before the convention tomorrow. Any alleged Stonewall DFL endorsement before the convention tomorrow is thusly bogus. -[Mpls] Third Ward politics and endorsements, December 8th Which was the post where you made the request of candidates to fill out the questionnaires. I specifically commisserated with you regarding this at the 3rd Ward convention, because despite also being a Stonewall member I have never received any notice either. And despite mentioning this to Andy at the convention, still have received no reason or notice. So my question to you is how do you go from calling this endorsement bogus to OM is the friend of the Gay Community Did another endorsement arise in the meantime? Did someone pull you to the side and twist your arm, or have you adopted the Norm Coleman strategy? Because as I read back over the stuff that you wrote around the endorsement it was insisting on a Northsider, calling for a blocking of then endorsement, and refuting the Stonewall endorsement, now you're calling it the Truth Is this what Moore of the same old thing is about? Is that really what the 3rd Ward needs? Going to the convention you spoke of how the stink of the machine was already there and made an impassioned plea: The Northside is not Nordeast. The Northside end of the 3rd Ward is challenged by unemployment and devastated by addiction. We have been red lined to near obscurity on the political and economic maps. When was the last time the Northside had a 3rd Ward Councilman? I don't even remember... So for all the dynasties, you've had your chance to govern. For all the hacks, the 3rd isn't going to switch any majorities on the council. please step aside... and select candidates that call the Northside half of the 3rd Ward home, against all odds. Select candidates that reflect our working class traditions and diversity. Select candidates that will shape Minneapolis future rather than wallow in it's past. -[Mpls] 3rd Ward- the Northside needs representation, November 25th And yet a little over a month later, you're hailing OM as the greatest gift to the 3rd ward and backpedalling. I don't care that you found someone else to support, that's each individual's choice, but the statements are inconsistent, and the logic does jibe. The Gay community has a lot of friends in this race, many of them are candidates, and many of them have said openly that they support such things as Domestic Partner benefits, including Don Samuels. How about we stick to the issues, and keep our logic consistent. These scare tactics are unbecoming of anyone, least of all, that which is supposed to be the best the DFL has to offer in this race. But I can understand the reason for the panic. There's nothing that OM has that I can see says he knows how to deal with the issues that you mentioned. Don Samuels has it all. And as you requested, he's a Northsider. Don has what it takes to bring an authentic community voice to the City Council rather than a recycled bureacratic one bogged down in red tape. So with one day to go, I want to invite you to come on home Dyna. Come back to your roots and the words you said and support someone who fulfills them: Don Samuels. Stand up for him in Hawthorne. One day to go and then we'll know. Jonathan Palmer Consistently supporting a consistent candidate in Victory ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Third Ward Election
As I look at the ward on the map, it occurs to me that the CM comes from east of the river because the NE voters turn out on election day. Maybe the North voters consider downtown politics too boring to spend their time on it. That's why the poorer parts of America have so little influence. They think political participation is for other people. Not to say they don't have SOME reasons for such beliefs (the rampant buying of government by the rich being one), but voter groups who seldom show up at the polls are safely ignored in politics. We don't generally turn people away in this part of the country, but we don't hunt them down and force them to vote, either. = = Jim MorkCooper Neighborhood Blessed are the peacemakers for they will be called children of God--Matthew 5:9 United for Peace http://www.unitedforpeace.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Third Ward Election
Somehwhere in between "not turning them away" and "not hunting them down", lies the answer. Believe it or not, most of who we are as adults are from what we learn growing up. I dare say that many of the non-participants (on the Northside) don't participate for a reason other than finding city politics "boring". In most instances, it is probably more related to a belief that was instailled in their parents, their grandparents, and their great grandparents, that they in fact did not have the right to vote, regardless of what the federal laws might say. I think that even a brief observation of the ethnic composition of the "poorer constituents" currently living on the Northside would indicate that most of them came from somewhere else not too awfully long ago. Many of those places they came from, were not quite as indifferent to their participation (in politics) as the "Minnesota Nice" people they now live with. It is my belief that ifwe ever want to find a happy balance in our community, that it is incumbentupon the people that were fortunate enough to grow-up with the belief that their vote counts, to go past what is normally expectedof them anddo a better job reaching out to those that have, over time, become totally disenfranchised. With the right to vote comes responsibilities. Dennis Plante Jordan From: Jim Mork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mpls] Third Ward Election Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 05:56:59 -0800 (PST) As I look at the ward on the map, it occurs to me that the CM comes from east of the river because the NE voters turn out on election day. Maybe the North voters consider downtown politics too boring to spend their time on it. That's why the poorer parts of America have so little influence. They think political participation is for other people. Not to say they don't have SOME reasons for such beliefs (the rampant buying of government by the rich being one), but voter groups who seldom show up at the polls are safely ignored in politics. We don't generally turn people away in this part of the country, but we don't hunt them down and force them to vote, either. = = Jim MorkCooper Neighborhood "Blessed are the peacemakers for they will be called children of God"--Matthew 5:9 United for Peace http://www.unitedforpeace.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] 3rd ward
Could someone please tell us what labor organization has endorsed the Republican candidate in the 3rd ward race? Is it affiliated with the AFL-CIO? thanks linda higgins Old Highland ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Labor Endorsement
Valdis Rozentals has been endorsed by the MN Labor Federation. (I'm not sure how or if that's related to AFL-CIO, to be honest, because that's not my area in this campaign, but I'll ask the other staff who will know.) Connie Nompelis Ventura Village Friends for Valdis --- Linda Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone please tell us what labor organization has endorsed the Republican candidate in the 3rd ward race? Is it affiliated with the AFL-CIO? thanks linda higgins Old Highland ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward race- does the Gay community have a friend inthis race?
Dyna, Very interesting post, and a bit revisionist I think. Not at all, I'm applying the same principles now that I did to criticize the endorsement process- we need an fair process to pick a council member of the highest character. You mention how only 3 candidates screened with Stonewall and OM is the only candidate to have won the approval of the Stonewall Caucaus, yet during the time of that three week ago challenge you also said: I'm a member of the Stonewall DFL board, one of 2 board members that live in the 3rd ward. Why was I given no notice of this screening? Why was no notice given on the Stonewall DFL's board and general membership mailing list? Were all the DFL candidates given notice of this screening? -[Mpls] RE: Minneapolis Third Ward Politics, December 8th That was then, this is now. I have talked to folks who attended the screening and they have satisfied me that Olin Moore deserves the endorsement. and Also, some of the candidates apparently weren't invited to screen for the Stonewall DFL endorsement. At this time (sunday evening) I have yet to receive a request as a Stonewall DFL Board Member for a vote on an endorsement. It will thusly be impossible for Stonewall DFL to endorse before the convention tomorrow. Any alleged Stonewall DFL endorsement before the convention tomorrow is thusly bogus. -[Mpls] Third Ward politics and endorsements, December 8th Stonewall DFL did not endorse before the convention, or attempt to do so. Which was the post where you made the request of candidates to fill out the questionnaires. I specifically commisserated with you regarding this at the 3rd Ward convention, because despite also being a Stonewall member I have never received any notice either. And despite mentioning this to Andy at the convention, still have received no reason or notice. After being denied the Stonewall DFL endorsement in 2001 R.T. Rybak took his responses to the Stonewall DFL screening questionnaire and publicly posted them. By doing so he proved that he was just as much a friend to the gay community as Stonewall DFL's endorsed candidate. Don Samuels and the other candidates have had every opportunity to post their responses to the same screening questionnaire Olin Moore gave positive answers to here. Why hasn't Don Samuels answered that questionnaire? Why can't I find anything in writing that Don Samuels has written supportive of the gay community? So my question to you is how do you go from calling this endorsement bogus to OM is the friend of the Gay Community Did another endorsement arise in the meantime? Did someone pull you to the side and twist your arm, or have you adopted the Norm Coleman strategy? Because as I read back over the stuff that you wrote around the endorsement it was insisting on a Northsider, calling for a blocking of then endorsement, and refuting the Stonewall endorsement, now you're calling it the Truth Once in a while one has to admit that they were wrong. Over 80% of the delegates turned out to endorse Olin Moore. Given that mandate, I would be foolish to support a candidate who defies and insults the wisdom of those 70 some neighbors who turned out to select a DFL candidate for the 3rd ward seat. If Don Samuels had any real community values he'd respect the choices of his neighbors and join them in supporting the DFL endorsed candidate, Olin Moore. Is this what Moore of the same old thing is about? Is that really what the 3rd Ward needs? No. Don Samuels' campaign by it's own admission has been playing fast and loose with the election laws. We just got rid of a criminal council member, we don't need another. Going to the convention you spoke of how the stink of the machine was already there and made an impassioned plea: The Northside is not Nordeast. The Northside end of the 3rd Ward is challenged by unemployment and devastated by addiction. We have been red lined to near obscurity on the political and economic maps. When was the last time the Northside had a 3rd Ward Councilman? I don't even remember... So for all the dynasties, you've had your chance to govern. For all the hacks, the 3rd isn't going to switch any majorities on the council. please step aside... and select candidates that call the Northside half of the 3rd Ward home, against all odds. Select candidates that reflect our working class traditions and diversity. Select candidates that will shape Minneapolis future rather than wallow in it's past. -[Mpls] 3rd Ward- the Northside needs representation, November 25th That was posturing, basically I was doing some bargaining. I knew the chance of electing a Northside candidate in a low turnout special election was zilch. So I used my vote and voice as bargaining chips to get a candidate that would be supportive of the Northside. I voted for Vanessa Freeman on the first ballot and Don Samuels on the second. But on the 3rd ballot I and the
Fwd: Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward race- does the Gay community have afriend in this race?
Ops. forgot to sign my post. Dyna Sluyter in Hawthorne Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 11:53:23 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: dyna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward race- does the Gay community have a friend in this race? Cc: Bcc: X-Attachments: Dyna, Very interesting post, and a bit revisionist I think. Not at all, I'm applying the same principles now that I did to criticize the endorsement process- we need an fair process to pick a council member of the highest character. You mention how only 3 candidates screened with Stonewall and OM is the only candidate to have won the approval of the Stonewall Caucaus, yet during the time of that three week ago challenge you also said: I'm a member of the Stonewall DFL board, one of 2 board members that live in the 3rd ward. Why was I given no notice of this screening? Why was no notice given on the Stonewall DFL's board and general membership mailing list? Were all the DFL candidates given notice of this screening? -[Mpls] RE: Minneapolis Third Ward Politics, December 8th That was then, this is now. I have talked to folks who attended the screening and they have satisfied me that Olin Moore deserves the endorsement. and Also, some of the candidates apparently weren't invited to screen for the Stonewall DFL endorsement. At this time (sunday evening) I have yet to receive a request as a Stonewall DFL Board Member for a vote on an endorsement. It will thusly be impossible for Stonewall DFL to endorse before the convention tomorrow. Any alleged Stonewall DFL endorsement before the convention tomorrow is thusly bogus. -[Mpls] Third Ward politics and endorsements, December 8th Stonewall DFL did not endorse before the convention, or attempt to do so. Which was the post where you made the request of candidates to fill out the questionnaires. I specifically commisserated with you regarding this at the 3rd Ward convention, because despite also being a Stonewall member I have never received any notice either. And despite mentioning this to Andy at the convention, still have received no reason or notice. After being denied the Stonewall DFL endorsement in 2001 R.T. Rybak took his responses to the Stonewall DFL screening questionnaire and publicly posted them. By doing so he proved that he was just as much a friend to the gay community as Stonewall DFL's endorsed candidate. Don Samuels and the other candidates have had every opportunity to post their responses to the same screening questionnaire Olin Moore gave positive answers to here. Why hasn't Don Samuels answered that questionnaire? Why can't I find anything in writing that Don Samuels has written supportive of the gay community? So my question to you is how do you go from calling this endorsement bogus to OM is the friend of the Gay Community Did another endorsement arise in the meantime? Did someone pull you to the side and twist your arm, or have you adopted the Norm Coleman strategy? Because as I read back over the stuff that you wrote around the endorsement it was insisting on a Northsider, calling for a blocking of then endorsement, and refuting the Stonewall endorsement, now you're calling it the Truth Once in a while one has to admit that they were wrong. Over 80% of the delegates turned out to endorse Olin Moore. Given that mandate, I would be foolish to support a candidate who defies and insults the wisdom of those 70 some neighbors who turned out to select a DFL candidate for the 3rd ward seat. If Don Samuels had any real community values he'd respect the choices of his neighbors and join them in supporting the DFL endorsed candidate, Olin Moore. Is this what Moore of the same old thing is about? Is that really what the 3rd Ward needs? No. Don Samuels' campaign by it's own admission has been playing fast and loose with the election laws. We just got rid of a criminal council member, we don't need another. Going to the convention you spoke of how the stink of the machine was already there and made an impassioned plea: The Northside is not Nordeast. The Northside end of the 3rd Ward is challenged by unemployment and devastated by addiction. We have been red lined to near obscurity on the political and economic maps. When was the last time the Northside had a 3rd Ward Councilman? I don't even remember... So for all the dynasties, you've had your chance to govern. For all the hacks, the 3rd isn't going to switch any majorities on the council. please step aside... and select candidates that call the Northside half of the 3rd Ward home, against all odds. Select candidates that reflect our working class traditions and diversity. Select candidates that will shape Minneapolis future rather than wallow in it's past. -[Mpls] 3rd Ward- the Northside needs representation, November 25th That was posturing, basically I was doing some bargaining. I knew the chance of electing a Northside candidate in
[Mpls] Union payola - here's how the strategy works......
The unions deliver the DFL votes. Then the Council delivers our money to the unions. That's why the $2,500 boiler costs $30,000. That's why the $20 million Stone Arch Apartments costs $33 million. That's why rents are $1,000 rather than $500. That's why we subsidize building stuff we don't need (i.e. riverfront housing for the rich, Target store, stadium, Cub store, Guthrie, skating rinks, Block E, etc..) That's why Mpls schools cost $17,000 per student. By the way, the Austin, Texas per student cost is $7,450. [You know you're in Minneapolis when folks celebrate spending the most rather than producing results.] Unrelated note: There are no state income taxes in Texas either. Now here's a little known little secret - the private sector figured this out some time ago - and didn't like making those involuntary political contributions. One more secret - paying property taxes is still a voluntary act. When local government gets too goofy, too greedy, too corrupt - people and businesses just leave. Vicky Heller Cedar-Riverside and North Oaks ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Fwd: [Mpls] union printers/DFL Cash Machine has a union bugbackflow preventor
In a message dated 12/29/02 10:21:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, PennBroKeith writes: Keith says: Let me correct my misstatement for the record-- Keith Reitman states: I believe an 'in kind' donation from a small, independent business PERSON surviving in the hood is sweeter money then 'Machine made money'. This is what I had said and was corrected by LH: Keith Reitman states: I believe an 'in kind' donation from a small, independent business surviving in the hood is sweeter money then 'Machine made money'. In a message dated 12/28/02 8:43:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, lhiggins@NMPLS. com writes: It is also illegal. Corporate donations are illegal in Minnesota elections. And in-kind donations can be made only by people, not businesses. In addition, they cannot be any larger than the cash amount that can be donated by any person, in this case I believe $300. So an owner of a printshop can donate up to $300 worth of printing and must be listed in the candidate's campaign finance disclosures as personally giving an in-kind donation of that amount. But a company cannot. linda higgins old highland ---BeginMessage--- Keith says: Let me correct my misstatement for the record-- Keith Reitman states: I believe an 'in kind' donation from a small, independent business PERSON surviving in the hood is sweeter money then 'Machine made money'. This is what I had said and was corrected by LH: Keith Reitman states: I believe an 'in kind' donation from a small, independent business surviving in the hood is sweeter money then 'Machine made money'. In a message dated 12/28/02 8:43:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is also illegal. Corporate donations are illegal in Minnesota elections. And in-kind donations can be made only by people, not businesses. In addition, they cannot be any larger than the cash amount that can be donated by any person, in this case I believe $300. So an owner of a printshop can donate up to $300 worth of printing and must be listed in the candidate's campaign finance disclosures as personally giving an in-kind donation of that amount. But a company cannot. linda higgins old highland ---End Message---
RE: [Mpls] 3rd Ward race- does the Gay community have a friend in this race? Yes, several.
List, Most of the campaign volunteers are out -- well campaigning -- rather then responding to Dyna's outrageous posts. 1. The Unsupported Accusations The Samuel's campaign is in no way playing loose with the rules. Dyna is making leaping assumptions based on partial information at best. We have printed no where near 70,000 literature pieces. Simply because Dyna, as a likely primary voter has received 5 mailings -- she assumes everyone in the ward has. Nothing could be further from the truth. Simply because Dyna doesn't know who the Samuel's donor list is she assumes it must be coming from illegal or illicit sources. Is it so hard to believe that a professional African-American man without a party endorsement would have the resources to raise money to run for office? When the campaign finance reports are filed the list of donors and expenses of the campaign will be appropriate, responsible, legal and moral. To imply otherwise is completely irresponsible. 2. Don supports GLTB civil rights Don Samuels as an individual and as a candidate is pro-choice and supports GLTB civil rights. He would have supported the Domestic Partnership ordinance which recently passed the City Council. He would work closely with the Minneapolis delegation to advocate that the city be allowed to extend domestic partnership benefits to Minneapolis City employees. Don was never invited to screen with Stonewall DFL prior to the endorsement, and their endorsement of the DFL-endorsed candidate after the DFL endorsement was a foregone conclusion. As Stonewall DFL's leadership has expressed on this list before they are obligated by their organizational charter to support only the DFL-endorsed candidate. Don is not that candidate. 3. The dark-side of the DFL I can not close without responding to this comment of Dyna's: If Don Samuels had any real community values he'd respect the choices of his neighbors and join them in supporting the DFL endorsed candidate, Olin Moore. As a Democrat I find this offensive and the exact sentimentality that is justifiably driving voters from the DFL in droves. With this philosophy we wouldn't have a single statewide elected Democrat. Both Mark Dayton and Mike Hatch ran against the DFL-endorsed candidates on their respective roads to victory. Even the party heroes like Rodger Moe and Skip Humphrey have run against the DFL endorsement. The idea that 60% of 72 people, no matter how representative, should solely choose who the candidate should be to the exclusion of other choices is utterly undemocratic. If the party is going to be revived, and re-earn a majority either in Minnesota or nationally -- the idea that it is disrespectful to run against a DFL-endorsed candidate must whither away. We need the new faces, the new ideas, the new constituencies, and the new voices that non-traditional candidates offer. We do not need more of the same party insiders propped up by organizational loyalty -- we need to reach out and lift up authentic community leaders. 4. A viable alternative Fortunately there are many Democrats, both in the 3rd ward and around the city that felt it was in the best interest of the DFL, the best interest of the city, and the best interest of their neighbors in the Third Ward to provide an authentic community voice -- someone who may not have played all the political games -- but someone with diverse, unique experience and a well developed moral and political compass -- a real chance to be considered by all the voters in the Third Ward. We don't choose, they don't determine, only some will vote -- but we have tried to create a level playing field where the best candidate will emerge from the will of the people. On Monday night we will learn the voters choices. Proud to be working hard to give amplification to an authentic community voice, Joseph Barisonzi Lyndale ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Re: Labor Endorsement
Thanks! They are not related to the AFL-CIO. According to their website, their name is actually the Republican Party Labor Federation of Minnesota. This brings up a question that maybe a union member on the list can answer: Doesn't the term labor endorsed mean that a real labor union or an individual local has endorsed the candidate? After all the election lawsuits that have been filed over the years, isn't there a legal definition of this term? So who is this group made up of? Seems as if they've co-opted a term and are using it to misdirect voters. linda higgins old highland - Original Message - From: Constance Nompelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linda Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: Labor Endorsement Valdis Rozentals has been endorsed by the MN Labor Federation. (I'm not sure how or if that's related to AFL-CIO, to be honest, because that's not my area in this campaign, but I'll ask the other staff who will know.) Connie Nompelis Ventura Village Friends for Valdis --- Linda Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone please tell us what labor organization has endorsed the Republican candidate in the 3rd ward race? Is it affiliated with the AFL-CIO? thanks linda higgins Old Highland ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] A couple of corrections and questions regarding North Oaks
Ken Bradley wrote: Actually, you know you're in North Oaks when folks celebrate receiving the most. How many low income and immigrant folks is the gated community of North Oaks currently supporting. You know the folks that do all low paying service related jobs and other tasks that people from North Oaks seem to enjoy; law service, health care, and on, and on, and on. Vicky responds: Actually, North Oaks hasn't had any gates for thirty years. I don't know what received the most means. My immediate neighbors consist of a teacher, a carpenter who owns his own remodeling business, an engineer, a periodontist who teaches dentistry at the U of M, and an insurance salesman. The City has lots of seniors and many immigrant families (they do, to the best of my knowledge, support themselves however.) I see lots of the teenagers working at Cub, Arby's, and Culver's when they're not in school. I know lots of North Oaks women who spend all of their time raising money for various charities. The four families on my street are Democrats. Please tell me Mr. Bradley, what's wrong with these people? As you know, those who earn (emphasize earn, not receive) the most, pay the most. It seems to me that they should be thanked, rather than scorned. If it were not for them, everyone else would be paying a lot more. Vicky Heller, Cedar-Riverside and North Oaks ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Back-flow preventers
David, I agree that the backflow preventers on the boiler feed are a little bit of overkill, but they have been a requirement since at least 1988 until 1994, when I did Mpls Truth in Housing Inspections Reports, unless they dropped the requirement for a few years (which I doubt). But as Jim Graham indicated, they are a simple item to install and if you already have a copper feed, should not take more than 30 minutes to install. Steve Meldahl Jordan (work) - Original Message - From: David Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mpls list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 11:33 AM Subject: [Mpls] Back-flow preventers Here's a post that will have my anti-bureaucracy and landlord friends chuckling with I told you so... So we're selling our house (anyone want to live in prestigious East Kingfield?). Part of the selling process is getting a Truth-In-Housing inspection. Our abode - lovingly upgraded from the rental property it was when we bought it - passed with flying colors...except for the dreaded back-flow preventer. These small pieces of shrapnel apparently keep water from flowing into the city's water system if somehow there is negative pressure. We need three of them. Two are $5 parts that screw on our exterior hose faucet and the one in our laundry tub. The third is a bit more problematic...it goes on the water supply to our boiler. That means cutting copper pipe, installing the thing, adding a second shut-off valve...in other words, a plumber and a permit. Since our plumbing was upgraded three years ago, I asked the inspector what the deal was. New requirement as of June 1, he explained. It's a silly thing...you'd probably only need one if a car hit the fire hydrant outside AND your boiler water supply was turned on...then the negative pressure might suck the water out of your radiators into the city system. Anyone with a boiler knows how infrequently they add water to their system. Our water supply has probably been on for a grand total of five minutes in the 8 years we've owned the house. The odds of negative pressure occurring WHILE the water supply is on roughly match the chances of winning the Powerball. So, my question: why was this requirement added? What was the justification? As always, I'll accede to superior info, but right now, this looks like one silly regulation. David Brauer King Field ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward race- does the Gay community have a friend inthis race?
On 12/29/02 11:53 AM, dyna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Palmer says: Going to the convention you spoke of how the stink of the machine was already there and made an impassioned plea: The Northside is not Nordeast. The Northside end of the 3rd Ward is challenged by unemployment and devastated by addiction. We have been red lined to near obscurity on the political and economic maps. When was the last time the Northside had a 3rd Ward Councilman? I don't even remember... So for all the dynasties, you've had your chance to govern. For all the hacks, the 3rd isn't going to switch any majorities on the council. please step aside... and select candidates that call the Northside half of the 3rd Ward home, against all odds. Select candidates that reflect our working class traditions and diversity. Select candidates that will shape Minneapolis future rather than wallow in it's past. -[Mpls] 3rd Ward- the Northside needs representation, November 25th Dyna responds: That was posturing, basically I was doing some bargaining. I knew the chance of electing a Northside candidate in a low turnout special election was zilch. So I used my vote and voice as bargaining chips to get a candidate that would be supportive of the Northside. I voted for Vanessa Freeman on the first ballot and Don Samuels on the second. But on the 3rd ballot I and the Northside got a good deal with Olin Moore, a candidate that his lived in and understands both the Northeast and Northside. I think Dyna's response to Jonathan Palmer's statement serves as a perfect example of why the DFL continues to fall by the wayside. More and more of us are growing tired of the cynical and jaded tactics of bargaining and posturing employed by the DFL rather than identifying the set of values or principles that you stand for and sticking with them. How many people do we remember said about Paul Wellstone that even though they disagreed with him, they respected how he stuck to his principles? How long will it take for the rest of the DFL to wake up to that novel concept? I'm looking forward to the primary results tomorrow simply because I'd like to see Dyna's statement that the chance of electing a Northside candidate in a low turnout special election was zilch be proven wrong. Mark Snyder Windom Park ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Union payola - here's how the strategy works......
Hello Victoria Minneapolis Folks: Victoria wrote: "You know you're in Minneapolis when folks celebrate spending the most rather than producing results." Victoria Signed: Vicky Heller Cedar-Riverside and North OaksKen Bradley: Actually, you know you're in North Oaks whenfolks celebratereceiving the most. How many low income and immigrant folks is the gated community of North Oaks currently supporting. You know the folks that do all low paying service related jobs and other tasks that people from North Oaks seem to enjoy; law service, health care, and on, and on, and on. Ken Bradley Corcoran Neighborhood Victoria Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The unions deliver the DFL votes. Then the Council delivers our money tothe unions.That's why the $2,500 boiler costs $30,000.That's why the $20 million Stone Arch Apartments costs $33 million.That's why rents are $1,000 rather than $500.That's why we subsidize building stuff we don't need (i.e. riverfronthousing for the rich, Target store, stadium, Cub store, Guthrie, skatingrinks, Block E, etc..)That's why Mpls schools cost $17,000 per student. By the way, the Austin,Texas per student cost is $7,450. [You know you're in Minneapolis whenfolks celebrate spending the most rather than producing results.]Unrelated note: There are no state income taxes in Texas either.Now here's a little known little secret - the private sector figured thisout some time ago - and didn't like making those involuntary politicalcontributions.One more secret - paying property taxes is still a voluntary act. Whenlocal government gets too goofy, too greedy, too corrupt - people andbusinesses just leave.Vicky HellerCedar-Riverside and North Oaks___Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-DemocracyPost messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mplsDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
[Mpls] Where one lives
Folks, we have rules against personal attacks. This exchange is one reason why. Please folks, carve up the issues, not each other. If you feel the need to take a potshot directly at someone, email them directly. It's a good idea to restrain hyperbole, too (see the post that started this exchange), but the rules are less strict about that. Thanks, David Brauer List manager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ken bradley Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:26 PM To: Victoria Heller; Mpls Forum Subject: Re: [Mpls] Union payola - here's how the strategy works.. Hello Victoria Minneapolis Folks: Victoria wrote: You know you're in Minneapolis when folks celebrate spending the most rather than producing results. Victoria Signed: Vicky Heller Cedar-Riverside and North Oaks Ken Bradley: Actually, you know you're in North Oaks when folks celebrate receiving the most. How many low income and immigrant folks is the gated community of North Oaks currently supporting. You know the folks that do all low paying service related jobs and other tasks that people from North Oaks seem to enjoy; law service, health care, and on, and on, and on. Ken Bradley Corcoran Neighborhood Victoria Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The unions deliver the DFL votes. Then the Council delivers our money to the unions. That's why the $2,500 boiler costs $30,000. That's why the $20 million Stone Arch Apartments costs $33 million. That's why rents are $1,000 rather than $500. That's why we subsidize building stuff we don't need (i.e. riverfront housing for the rich, Target store, stadium, Cub store, Guthrie, skating rinks, Block E, etc..) That's why Mpls schools cost $17,000 per student. By the way, the Austin, Texas per student cost is $7,450. [You know you're in Minneapolis when folks celebrate spending the most rather than producing results.] Unrelated note: There are no state income taxes in Texas either. Now here's a little known little secret - the private sector figured this out some time ago - and didn't like making those involuntary political contributions. One more secret - paying property taxes is still a voluntary act. When local government gets too goofy, too greedy, too corrupt - people and businesses just leave. Vicky Heller Cedar-Riverside and North Oaks ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Twin Cities third worst in income disparity
Twin Cities third worst in income disparity http://twincities.bizjournals.com/twincities/stories/2002/12/23/story2.html A new study of 2000 Census data by American City Business Journals found white median household incomes in the Twin Cities were nearly double blacks' earnings, with blacks making $519 for every $1,000 whites make. My guess for a part of this disparity, in Minneapolis, is the high school dropout rate for African-Americans. Maybe our new school board members can set goals and can tell us what they're going to do about it. Any other suggestions as to what causes this disparity in our city compared to others? Michael Atherton Prospect Park ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] 3rd ward race
As dissapointed as I am that the issues of police brutality and abuse of police power has gotten in this race, I think I'd predict that the primary survivors will be Valdis Rozentals and Shane Price as they were the two top vote getters in the last race, and with all of the political and legal problems the DFL is having this year, and what I believe is a growing Republican wave Northeast. I wonder who DFLers would support in such a contest, or if they'd try to run a write-in candidate, and thus be accused of splitting the voteh. Tamir Nolley Hawthorne (Still annoyed that no one is openly talking about putting the killer cops in the same jails as all of the other criminals.) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] This Week in The Minneapolis Observer
T H E M I N N E A P O L I S O B S E R V E R A Weekly Digest of All Things Minneapolitan www.mplsobserver.com Vol. 2, No. 20 December 30, 2002 To subscribe ($12/yr.), just hit 'reply' and state your intentions. We'll be happy to set you up. ** THIS WEEK IN THE OBSERVER: * City Seeks to Block Cable Transfer Plan * Expanding Block E? * Vegetarian Institution Will Become Blue-Collar Bar * Right-Wing Think Tank too Partisan? * Segregation City * Local NAACP Head Resigns Plus: Honeywell and the Axis of Evil, in search of the perfect steamer, Chief Olson's next job, cushions on Minnehaha, waking the gardener within, and a New Year's greeting from 1932. ** CITY SEEKS TO BLOCK CABLE TRANSFER PLAN Time Warner Cable, already in hot water with the city over alleged franchise violations, now finds itself stymied locally in its bid to consolidate its holdings nationally. City officials are blocking a request from the cable giant to transfer the city's cable franchise to a new company about to be created by the merger of Time Warner Entertainment and Comcast. They say Time Warner has failed to convince them that the as-yet unformed corporation is capable of managing the operation. In a December 18 letter to Ways and Means Committee chair Barbara Johnson, chief information officer Karl Kaiser and city coordinator John Moir counseled the committee and the City Council to deny the request, which they said could lead to dire consequences for city cable subscribers. Time Warner has not proven that the still-unformed company is financially qualified to manage the city's cable franchise, Kaiser and Moir argue. And because Time Warner continues to balk at fulfilling current conditions of its contract with the city, there is little reason to rely on the company's assurances that the transfer will be painless. The city has been wrangling with Time Warner on this request since September, claiming the company has provided insufficient and inaccurate information about the transfer, has refused to pay the city's costs to study the proposal, and has refused to clean up current franchise violations. The move came as a result of a recent restructuring of AOL Time Warner in which the company's cable unit, Time Warner Entertainment, was merged with Comcast, another major cable provider. To consolidate the two companies' cable franchises, the federal government requires city approval. But if the city does not act by January 4, 2003, federal regulators will consider it a done deal. EXPANDING BLOCK E? Block E developer Dan McCaffery, whose chain-heavy retail fortress on Hennepin has been blamed for the continued suburbanization of downtown, is looking for new territory. VEGETARIAN INSTITUTION WILL BECOME BLUE-COLLAR BAR One of the city's first vegetarian restaurants will close in February and be replaced by a Chicago-style bar and restaurant, reports Scott Russell in the Southwest Journal (http://www.swjournal.com). AXIS OF EVIL Rank of Honeywell among U.S. arms dealers that have illegally sold weapons to Iraq: 1 --Source: the German newspaper Die Tageszeitung AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER Center of the American Experiment (CAE), the thriving local right-wing think tank from which Governor-elect Tim Pawlenty selected 5 of his 13 transition advisors, should be required to surrender its tax-exempt status, writes Rob Levine in City Pages (http://www.citypages.com). SEGREGATION CITY The Twin Cities area now boasts the third-largest income gap between whites and blacks in the nation. ** The Minneapolis Observer is published 48 times/year by Independent Media, L.L.C. ©2003 Independent Media, 4152 Snelling Ave., Minneapolis, MN 55406; www.mplsobserver.com. No part of this publication may be reprinted without the permission of Independent Media. Subscriptions: $12/yr. To unsubscribe, send us an e-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and we'll get you off the list and refund the unused portion of your subscription. Editor: Craig Cox Deputy Assistant Senior Executive Editor: Sharon Parker Contributing writers: Chris Dodge, Leo Mezzrow Equine consultant and coffee shop correspondent: Nora Cox Perspective: Martin Cox Thanks to: Katharine Krueger and Kevin Lynch *** Fight media consolidation! Support the independent press! Pick up your neighborhood newspaper! *** ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Sears Building update
Steve Brandt has obviously been working Christmas week... Today, the City Council is expected to authorize the city's development agency to draft a solicitation to developers. The agency would work with neighbors of the Lake Street complex to draft guidelines for developers. The Minneapolis Community Development Agency hopes to have the guidelines ready for council approval by winter's end. Three development proposals have come and gone in the past 13 years.But this time there will be important differences http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3561836.html David Brauer List manager ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] 'Twas the night before the election....
'Twas the night before the election, when all through the ward, Not a campaign was stirring, it seemed we'd all be ignored. The lit was dropped on the windshields with care, In hopes that tomorrow soon would be there. The hacks were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of victory danced in their heads. And candidates in Northeast, and those in the North, Had just settled down, for what the Primary would bring forth. When out in the streets there arose such a clatter, I sprang from the bed to see what was the matter. Away to the window I flew like a flash, Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash. The moon on the grass not covered with snow, Gave the lustre of mid-day to the scene below. When, what to my wondering ears should report, But an Authentic Community Voice with waves of support. With supporters of all races, creeds and colors, I knew in a moment it was the candidate before all others; More impressive than any, his passion shone bright And he whistled, and shouted, his priorities through the night: Now, Families! Now, Development! Now Community And Nonviolence! On Housing! On Safety! On Fairness And Conscience! From the edge of the North! Through Northeast and all! Now dash away! Dash away! On to City Hall! And with him they came, their hearts filled with hope No longer would they settle, no longer merely cope; For here was a man, authentic and real A voice from the community, not some backroom deal. And then, in a twinkling, I heard at the door A quick knock-knocking, from who, I wasn't sure. As I drew it open, what should I see, There stood Don Samuels, Council Candidate, Ward 3. He was clad in ideals, from his head to his foot, Knowledge, Compassion, and Community Input A bundle of wisdom he carried from his life, Not to mention two loving daughters and a very capable wife. His eyes -- how they twinkled! His experience shone through! His dedication and commitment, no challenge could undo! His smile warmed you from your head to your toes, An authentic respresentative, one instantly knows; A guardian ad litem, an activist and artist, One conversation with him and I knew which candidate was smartest. Long on community, yet short on hot air, I knew when we needed him, as our councilmember he'd be there He was running I knew, just to do good work Not for career move or fame, or any special perk And passing his lit and shaking my hand He thanked me for my time, and leaving, made a request not a demand He sprang to the community, to him they gathered round A wave of support lifting him up off the ground And I heard his request as he walked out of sight, VOTE DON SAMUELS TOMORROW, AND WE'LL ALL HAVE A GOOD-NIGHT! Jonathan Palmer Poetically Supporting DON SAMUELS in Victory ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Re: Bike Racks and Paths
Mike Jones writes: Downtown is woefully scant of bike racks. You would think they would be an obvious investment to go along with all of the bike lanes. Also, we need bike lanes ALL the way down Hennepin, down Lake, down Franklin and down Lyndale, especially here in Uptown. I'm sick of SUVs mowing me down because I have to share a lane with them. Uptown is HEAVY in bike traffic. It is against city law to bike on sidewalks, and just plain unsafe. (JC) Mike, you have my full solidarity on this issue. Your harrowing bicycle experience in Uptown is repeated all over the city on the roads that remain to be traffic-calmed. Fortunately, traffic calming is improving bicycle and pedestrian safety all over the city. For those unfamiliar with the term, traffic calming in our context usually entails safety measures on streets that have four lanes of traffic and little space for bikes and pedestrians, such as Hennepin and Lyndale. Car traffic is clearly designated in two lanes, making space for bikes on either side. On commercial streets, turn lanes and bump-outs can be used as space allows, as on Franklin Avenue east of Chicago. Other visual stimuli encourage drivers to slow down, including trees, pedestrian level street lighting, benches, and cooler paving materials such as brick. No Minneapolis street is wide enough for four lanes and parking on both sides. Lyndale and Hennepin would be well served with two lanes of through traffic, a center turn lane and a designated lane for bikes. Jeff Carlson, Whittier __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] 3rd Ward- Don Samuels' campaign leaves more questions unanswered
Most of the campaign volunteers are out -- well campaigning -- rather then responding to Dyna's outrageous posts. Since when is a request that a candidate account for who bankrolled their campaign outrageous? 1. The Unsupported Accusations The greatest support for my accusations comes from Don Samuels' own campaign. The Samuel's campaign is in no way playing loose with the rules. Dyna is making leaping assumptions based on partial information at best. We have printed no where near 70,000 literature pieces. A few days ago Jonathan Palmer 'fessed up: Over the last five days his campaign has mailed over 20,000 pieces of literature into the Ward. As my good friend Jonathan has stated 20,000 pieces were mailed, obviously more pieces were printed for the literature drops. And given that Don Samuels' campaign has dropped here in old 3-10, one of the lowest turnout precincts in the city, it's reasonable to assume that Don Samuels' campaign dropped lit at every residence in the ward. There are something like 168,000 residences in this city's 13 wards, so you need about 15,000 of a piece to be assured of delivering to every residence in the ward. Of the 5 pieces of Don Samuels' lit I found littered about my home yesterday, there were 3 distinct designs. Only one of these designs was mailable as a card and none fit the christmas card format of the previous 5 mailings. So it is safe to assume that 3 pieces with a printing of about 15,000 each were dropped over the last few days. That comes to about 45,000 pieces, but to be conservative we'll round down to 40,000. So we take the 20,000 pieces that Jonathan said were mailed, plus probably 40,000 or more that were dropped, and we can be fairly certain that Don Samuel's campaign has had at least 60,000 full color double sided pieces of lit printed. Joseph, a few days ago you stated: The total printing and mailing budget was less then $5,000 and we are within budget. Joseph, the cheapest mailing rate you could have gotten would be that for carrier route presorted 1st class letters at $.275/piece. So mailing 20,000 pieces cost your campaign at least $5500. That means, using your and Jonathan's own numbers, that the entire budget for those pieces was consumed by the mailing alone. That leaves the question of who printed 60,000 pieces and who if anyone paid for said 60,000 pieces. Never mind what mailhouse did about $1,000 worth of presort and who if anyone paid for that... Joseph, Don Samuels' campaign has more than a bit of explaining to do. I'd suggest you quit trying to snow us and come clean- who supplied these services, what was the value of them, and who paid for them or were they donated? Simply because Dyna, as a likely primary voter has received 5 mailings -- she assumes everyone in the ward has. Nothing could be further from the truth. Simply because Dyna doesn't know who the Samuel's donor list is she assumes it must be coming from illegal or illicit sources. I made no such accusation. Is it so hard to believe that a professional African-American man without a party endorsement would have the resources to raise money to run for office? No, but I would question the fiscal wisdom of a candidate who paid for 60,000 pieces of lit for just a primary race for less than a full term. Especially when he would be redistricted out of the ward in the next election cycle. When the campaign finance reports are filed the list of donors and expenses of the campaign will be appropriate, responsible, legal and moral. To imply otherwise is completely irresponsible. And I'm quite sure they'll be interesting reading- to bad we can't see them before the primary. 2. Don supports GLTB civil rights Then why hasn't he publicly stated so- one wonders if this is an election eve conversion? Don Samuels as an individual and as a candidate is pro-choice and supports GLTB civil rights. He would have supported the Domestic Partnership ordinance which recently passed the City Council. He would work closely with the Minneapolis delegation to advocate that the city be allowed to extend domestic partnership benefits to Minneapolis City employees. Don was never invited to screen with Stonewall DFL prior to the endorsement, and their endorsement of the DFL-endorsed candidate after the DFL endorsement was a foregone conclusion. No, the Stonewall DFL has yet to endorse a candidate in this race- please research your charges better next time. As Stonewall DFL's leadership has expressed on this list before they are obligated by their organizational charter to support only the DFL-endorsed candidate. Don is not that candidate. No, Stonewall DFL has no obligation to support a DFL endorsed candidate. 3. The dark-side of the DFL When all else fails, drag out the ghost of DFLs past... I can not close without responding to this comment of Dyna's: If Don Samuels had any real community values he'd respect
