Re: [Mpls] Racial bias in the criminal court system/Bias in the Hood

2003-09-04 Thread Tim Bonham
I guess I'd ask if this property was zoned for commercial sales from the 
front porch.

Tim Bonham, Ward 12, Standish-Ericsson

What would the neighbors say, and do, if I, Keith Reitman/landlord, offered
these same legal products for sale from one of my front porches, to our
neighborhood youth?
Keith Reitman  NearNorth


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Re: [Mpls] Racial bias in the criminal court system/Bias in the Hood

2003-09-03 Thread PennBroKeith
In a message dated 9/2/03 2:25:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 One thing that's become a recent interest of mine - these kids for 
 the most part (especially the ones that don't live in the hood), have to 
 reduce their ounces of pot into saleable packets somewhere (they can buy 
 both the baggies and the scales necessary to do so at the corner store)  

Keith asks; Is it reasonable to expect the corner store owner/operator to 
refrain from selling exclusively drug-sales related paraphernalia, i.e., scales, 
microbags? I do not include papers or blunts. Subsequently, when said 
merchant touts all his efforts to help rid crime from his parking area and corner, 
should his efforts be a little suspect if he profits by enabling drug 
processing and marketing?

What would the neighbors say, and do, if I, Keith Reitman/landlord, offered 
these same legal products for sale from one of my front porches, to our 
neighborhood youth?

Keith Reitman  NearNorth
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Re: [Mpls] Racial bias in the criminal court system/Bias in the Hood

2003-09-03 Thread Dennis Plante
Keith asks; Is it reasonable to expect the corner store owner/operator to 
refrain from selling exclusively drug-sales related paraphernalia, i.e., 
scales, microbags? I do not include papers or blunts. Subsequently, when 
said merchant touts all his efforts to help rid crime from his parking area 
and corner, should his efforts be a little suspect if he profits by enabling 
drug processing and marketing?

What would the neighbors say, and do, if I, Keith Reitman/landlord, offered 
these same legal products for sale from one of my front porches, to our 
neighborhood youth?

Dennis Responds:

The store owner (who lives in Woodbury) has flatly denied selling such 
items.  Maybe that's why neither item is displayed openly.  They're both 
kept below the counter, out of sight.  It'd be very easy to view asking the 
store owner to stop selling these items as a reasonable request (by the 
public), as the revenue loss would be very small.  However, the 12-18 youths 
that buy these items from him on a regular basis also provide him with a 
very large revenue base in the manner of food/drink, the wrappers for which 
mostly end-up on the ground in our neighborhood.

Personally, I see a fair amount of irony in the fact that the owner was 
viewed as somewhat of a hero for rescuing (unlocking his store door and 
letting them in) two reporters lasy August that were being beaten by a mob 
of people that were rioting in response to the drug warrant being served and 
subsequent wounding of the child (by CRT) on the house directly across the 
street.

Dennis Plante
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RE: [Mpls] Racial bias in the criminal court system/Bias in the Hood

2003-09-03 Thread Samuels, Don H
I am totally intolerant of this kind of inconsistency. Everybody has to step up to the 
plate and sacrifice the easy buck for the common good. The owner is free to sell all 
legal products, but in the light of our problems, exercising that right gets to the 
issue of community goodwill vs. opportunistic relationship with the community. When we 
know who we are really dealing with at the core, we can exercise the appropriate 
amount of healthy cynicism and caution. There are some people we accept and some we 
guardedly tolerate. Inconsistent partners fall into the second category.

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From: Dennis Plante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cc: Samuels, Don H; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mpls] Racial bias in the criminal court system/Bias in the
Hood



Keith asks; Is it reasonable to expect the corner store owner/operator to 
refrain from selling exclusively drug-sales related paraphernalia, i.e., 
scales, microbags? I do not include papers or blunts. Subsequently, when 
said merchant touts all his efforts to help rid crime from his parking area 
and corner, should his efforts be a little suspect if he profits by enabling 
drug processing and marketing?

What would the neighbors say, and do, if I, Keith Reitman/landlord, offered 
these same legal products for sale from one of my front porches, to our 
neighborhood youth?

Dennis Responds:

The store owner (who lives in Woodbury) has flatly denied selling such 
items.  Maybe that's why neither item is displayed openly.  They're both 
kept below the counter, out of sight.  It'd be very easy to view asking the 
store owner to stop selling these items as a reasonable request (by the 
public), as the revenue loss would be very small.  However, the 12-18 youths 
that buy these items from him on a regular basis also provide him with a 
very large revenue base in the manner of food/drink, the wrappers for which 
mostly end-up on the ground in our neighborhood.

Personally, I see a fair amount of irony in the fact that the owner was 
viewed as somewhat of a hero for rescuing (unlocking his store door and 
letting them in) two reporters lasy August that were being beaten by a mob 
of people that were rioting in response to the drug warrant being served and 
subsequent wounding of the child (by CRT) on the house directly across the 
street.

Dennis Plante
Jordan

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