Re[2]: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Switcher?
At 23:06 08/12/2003, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Monday, December 8, 2003 Bob Kerstetter wrote: I know XML source should work, but at least for me, creating XML source is unproductive. I work with a text editor and find writing this: ``Hello world,'' says HAL. much more productive than writing this: p#8220;Hello world#8221;/p, says HAL. both are wrong in the perspective of xml (structured document coding): quotationHello World/quotation, says HAL is the way to go Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] spanish
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Hans Hagen wrote: At 11:20 05/12/2003, you wrote: HI I have been reading lang-ita.tex to see how a language is defined. There are some errors. I have compare the translation with those done by Javier Bezos in spanish for babel ( he has studied spanish typesetting to build the style) So, you suggest: \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!tabellen=Cuadros] \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!figuren=Figuras] \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!intermezzos=intermedios] \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!afkortingen=Abreviaci\'ones] Abreviaci\'ones is not correct. Put Abreviaciones. \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!eenheden=Unidades] \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!tabel=Cuadro ] \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!figuur=Figura ] \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!intermezzo=intermedio ]% for instance some intermdiate (often framed) textual intermezzo \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!january=enero] \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!september=septiembre] \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!december=diciembre] Are there other spanish users out there who disagree? If not, i'll patch ... I think, the only problem is with the traslation of tabel/tablen. The old traslation in Babel and used in technical wrting is tabla/tablas (I suposs for direct traslation of enghish). The new traslation (cuadoro/cuadros) made by Javier Bezos is more general ( I think, especially in ConTeXt) is not dificult to define a new float named tabla if anybody want to use instead of cuadoro. Zunbeltz Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=35000]
As I got no solutions to this problem, my conclusion is that it is not possible to enlarge the hash size parameter in MikTeX. For serious work with ConTeXt I should therefore drop MikTeX and take e.g. the TeXLive distribution. Is this a valid conclusion? Sytse At 12/5/2003 10:43, I wrote: Hi, When using Hans' adaptation for typesetting bold math in a small example everything went fine. But when using it in a somewhat larger text I ran into the error: ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=35000]. I remember a discussion a few months ago about this problem in MikTeX. Is there any solution in MikTeX available? Thanks, Sytse ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=35000]
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Sytse Knypstra wrote: As I got no solutions to this problem, my conclusion is that it is not possible to enlarge the hash size parameter in MikTeX. Is this a valid conclusion? No. I've successfully done this once, but then I switched over to TeXLive for other reasons. Unfortunately I don't remember any more what I did, but this old message by Hans might help (he's talking about miktex.ini file in the message, that may not be clear): http://ml-archives.mini.pw.edu.pl/ntg-context/msg11458.html [In case I made a mess of copying the address, the message was sent by Hans Hagen on April 13, 2003, that should enable you to find it in the archives.] I know there's more useful information on the matter in the mailing list archives, but I cannot get any of the searches to work (neither in the above archives or gmane.org archives). Somebody, can this be fixed at some point??? Greetings from Finland, Mari ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] context2html converter (was: ConTeXt Switcher? )
On Dec 9, 2003, at 6:52 AM, Maurice Diamantini wrote: A context2html solution is a big miss for ConTeXt tex4ht could be that solution. (if only a tex4ht power user would switch from LaTeX to ConTeXt :-) I have contacted a friend who is a tex4ht power user and asked if he could help with making tex4ht work with ConTeXt. He said his uneducated guess is that tex4ht can be made to work with ConTeXt, but he would need help installing ConTeXt on his Sun Solaris account. He does not have root access. The help would consistent of: Where to put things, setting up configuration files if such are needed, and similar issues that a user like me with no root access might encounter to get the system to run. In short, someone who can lead me in small steps through the installation process. Do such instructions already exist? Or, if someone can provide that type of help, please contact me offlist and I'll put y'all together. ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Switcher?
On Dec 8, 2003, at 2:33 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am Montag, 08.12.03, um 18:20 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Bob
Kerstetter:
ConTeXt is very attractive because of its detailed control, layers,
colors, few or no packages(!), magical developers, and on and on.
It can obvious produce PDF. Can it also produce HTML and Word from
the same document?
The normal way to get both PDF and HTML is using a XML source.
You know of ConTeXts native XML mode?
AFAIK you can import XML or HTML into MS Office, too, so you need no
real Word DOC output.
Or perhaps there's an other XML to RTF/DOC Konverter...
I know XML source should work, but at least for me, creating XML source
is unproductive. I work with a text editor and find writing this:
``Hello world,'' says HAL.
much more productive than writing this:
p#8220;Hello world#8221;/p, says HAL.
Maybe I'm missing something, but for writing, XML's markup requirements
-- which are invisible to field-based data entry screen -- are way too
intense for hand-editing. TeX source is much less verbose. It is easier
to create, proof (both visually and audibly), spell check
troubleshoot, etc. I have not seen an editor capable of doing XML
source in a productive manner, like (La)TeX with text editor.
This is probably taboo, but surely the smart thing to do is start from Word, generate
some XML with macros, and produce some HTML with stylesheets, some PDF with ConTeXt.
BTW you can generate some simple Context with VB macros and hand-edit -- saves a whole
load of mundane stuff. I can go from a web page to PDF in under 15 minutes using the
Word macros I have for Context.
Christopher
o00o
Since light travels faster than sound, isnt that why
some people appear bright until you hear them speak
Steve Wright
?'mx%g({`Xm ' ffX)?'m
Re[2]: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Switcher?
Wednesday, December 10, 2003 Christopher G D Tipper wrote: This is probably taboo, but surely the smart thing to do is start from Word, generate some XML with macros, and produce some HTML with stylesheets, some PDF with ConTeXt. BTW you can generate some simple Context with VB macros and hand-edit -- saves a whole load of mundane stuff. I can go from a web page to PDF in under 15 minutes using the Word macros I have for Context. Not that I see the purpose of using Word in the frist place. Any decent editor has enough macro power to do the same. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Switcher?
On Dec 9, 2003, at 5:39 PM, Christopher G D Tipper wrote: On Dec 8, 2003, at 2:33 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am Montag, 08.12.03, um 18:20 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Bob Kerstetter: ConTeXt is very attractive because of its detailed control, layers, colors, few or no packages(!), magical developers, and on and on. It can obvious produce PDF. Can it also produce HTML and Word from the same document? The normal way to get both PDF and HTML is using a XML source. You know of ConTeXts native XML mode? AFAIK you can import XML or HTML into MS Office, too, so you need no real Word DOC output. Or perhaps there's an other XML to RTF/DOC Konverter... I know XML source should work, but at least for me, creating XML source is unproductive. I work with a text editor and find writing this: ``Hello world,'' says HAL. much more productive than writing this: p#8220;Hello world#8221;/p, says HAL. Maybe I'm missing something, but for writing, XML's markup requirements -- which are invisible to field-based data entry screen -- are way too intense for hand-editing. TeX source is much less verbose. It is easier to create, proof (both visually and audibly), spell check troubleshoot, etc. I have not seen an editor capable of doing XML source in a productive manner, like (La)TeX with text editor. This is probably taboo, but surely the smart thing to do is start from Word, generate some XML with macros, and produce some HTML with stylesheets, some PDF with ConTeXt. BTW you can generate some simple Context with VB macros and hand-edit -- saves a whole load of mundane stuff. I can go from a web page to PDF in under 15 minutes using the Word macros I have for Context. Thanks for the suggestion. I don't really have a problem with Word for writing letters and the like. For large docs, however, it's just too unpredictable. Images move around. Numbered lists break. Cross references change. Formatting blows up if you even look at an end-paragraph mark (where all the paragraph info is stored). Styles revert to their defaults. Word crashes, often. My main source documents would be in a proprietary file format known for its tendencies toward corruption. I used Word for 15 years and it's just too much pain. My schedules are too tight to trust it. But least I sound like an MS basher, Word TOCs and Tables are excellent. Mail merge to email using MAPI it cool. And I did once write a complete Windows help system generator using only Word Basic. This was before VBA, before you had to be an OO programmer to write Word macros. :) These days I keep Word for Windows safety contained in a Mac OS X Remote Desktop Connection window. ;-) ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
