Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!

2009-03-14 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 01:26, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
 Hi,

 how to do this: here in Poland we have some conventions as for
 typesetting math; for example, we don't use  \leq, but \leqslant; we
 don't write tan for tangent, but tg;

That one is trivial. In math-tex there are dozens of definitions like:
\definemathcommand [tan] [nolop] {\mfunction{tan}}
In my opinion adding
\definemathcommand [tg] [nolop] {\mfunction{tg}}
to the list sounds reasonable, so then you can simply use \tg.

 we don't write arcsin, but
 arc\,sin; etc.

\definemathcommand [arcsin]  [limop] {\mfunction{arc\,sin}}

But I don't know how to make it language-dependant (you can definitely
put it to some place that only gets loaded when you load Polish, but
then you'll have problems switching back and forth).

 Would it be possible to have such typographic
 conventions (I could provide a more comprehensive list, of course)
 enabled by \mainlanguage[pl]?  A related problem is dashes; where the
 English use an em-dash without any spaces, the Polish use an en-dash
 with spaces of around 0.2em (the left one unbreakable, i.e., with
 \penalty1).

I put a normal or unbreakable space around it :) :) :) But maybe
that's not the right solution, I just didn't care too much.

 Also, we put periods after section numbers, so no 1.2
 Section, but rather 1.2. Section.  What is the ConTeXt way to have
 such things for different languages?

We do that too. The code below is a dirty hack that achives the
desired result (in any mark), but cannot be hardcoded into the
language since it has some side effects:

\def\mynumberwithdot#1{#1.}
\setuphead
  [section] % gets inherited for subsections as well
  [numbercommand=\mynumberwithdot]

Hans has rewritten sectioning for mkiv I think, but I didn't explore
the new possibilities yet. So if you figure it out ... I would like to
have it for Slovenian as well.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] What does \c! means?

2009-03-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Alan Stone wrote:

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Wei-Wei Guo wwgu...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear all,

I'm reading the source file of t-bib. I find there are lots of '\c!',
'\s!', and
'\v!'. What do they mean? I searched in wiki, TeXBook, ConTeXt manual, TeX
impatient,
and mail list. Those commands appear some times, but no explanation.



http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080629.104105.40e28a70.el.html


Also generally helpful for a low-level understanding of context are
these wiki pages:

  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] What does \c! means?

2009-03-14 Thread Alan Stone
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Wei-Wei Guo wwgu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,

 I'm reading the source file of t-bib. I find there are lots of '\c!',
 '\s!', and
 '\v!'. What do they mean? I searched in wiki, TeXBook, ConTeXt manual, TeX
 impatient,
 and mail list. Those commands appear some times, but no explanation.


http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080629.104105.40e28a70.el.html



 Another question is related the following codes from Taco (thank you,
 Taco). There
 are tokens like '\??pb @l...@`. What does it mean? Could you tell me, to
 get deep
 understanding, what to read or which part to read in TeXBook or some other
 manuals.
 I don't know what to search to find related topics.

  \unprotect
  \def\lang#1%
   {\def\biblanguage{#1}%
\ifcsname \??pb @l...@#1\endcsname
\expanded{\mainlanguage[\getvalue{\??pb @l...@#1}]}%
\expanded{\language[\getvalue{\??pb @l...@#1}]}%
 \fi \ignorespaces}
   \protect


 Best wishes,
 Wei-Wei
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Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!

2009-03-14 Thread Aditya Mahajan

Hi Marcin,

On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Marcin Borkowski wrote:


Hi,

how to do this: here in Poland we have some conventions as for
typesetting math; for example, we don't use  \leq, but \leqslant;


The easy way is to type ⩽ (0x2A7D) instead of ≤ (0x2264) :). You can do
something like

\setuplabeltext [en] [lessthanequal={\leq}]
\setuplabeltext [pl] [lessthanequal={\leqslant}]

\def\le{\labeltext{lessthanequal}}

and then use \le, but I am not sure if this is a good thing to do.


we don't write tan for tangent, but tg;


Do you want \tan to produce tg? Again you can do

\setuplabeltext [en] [tangent={tan}]
\setuplabeltext [pl] [tangent={tg}]

\definemathcommand [tan] [nolop] {\mfunction{\labeltext{tangent}}}


we don't write arcsin, but
arc\,sin; etc.


Same as above.


Would it be possible to have such typographic
conventions (I could provide a more comprehensive list, of course)
enabled by \mainlanguage[pl]?


It is relatively easy to do this. I am in favour of implementing the
trignometric functions, etc; but I do not think that changing the meanings of
mathematical symbols is a good thing. It is really hard to remember the names of
symbols as is, changing meaning according to language will make it extremely
difficult.


A related problem is dashes; where the
English use an em-dash without any spaces, the Polish use an en-dash
with spaces of around 0.2em (the left one unbreakable, i.e., with
\penalty1).


Don't know.


Also, we put periods after section numbers, so no 1.2
Section, but rather 1.2. Section.


\setuplabeltext [pl] [section={{},{.}}]


What is the ConTeXt way to have
such things for different languages?


\setuplabeltext

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[NTG-context] off topic: page numbering question

2009-03-14 Thread WolfgangZ

Hi,

my question is not directly related to context, so please excuse.

In my document I have even before the abstract the summary in 2 
languages. Then the TOC (table of contents), then list of symbols which 
is followed by the introduction.


But where do I start with page number 1?
 - at the very beginning?
 - at the TOC (earlier pages get then numbered I, II, III, ...
 - at the introduction?

A last question, is it common to add the two summaries in the TOC or to 
start with the list of symbols?


Or are there no rules at all and I can do it as I like?

Best regards
Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] beta

2009-03-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi Hans,

I discovered two problems with the beta.

1. \typescriptone is ignored in the typescripts and many fonts (e.g.
can't be used)

\starttypescript [termes,times]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [termes] [default]
\stoptypescript

2. The new feature \getcheckedparameters acts like \get*e*parameter in
the lua code.

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Re: [NTG-context] off topic: page numbering question

2009-03-14 Thread John Devereux
WolfgangZ wol...@gmx.net writes:

 Hi,

 my question is not directly related to context, so please excuse.

 In my document I have even before the abstract the summary in 2
 languages. Then the TOC (table of contents), then list of symbols
 which is followed by the introduction.

 But where do I start with page number 1?
  - at the very beginning?
  - at the TOC (earlier pages get then numbered I, II, III, ...
  - at the introduction?

It's probably frowned on by real writers, but I actually make the
front cover page 1. This is just so that when you go to print an
extract of the document (or go to a page number when viewing), the
page numbers match those in the software dialog.

Having said that it may well be that PDF viewers are clever enough to
know the logical page number rather than the physical one, does
anyone know about this?

[...]


-- 

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Re: [NTG-context] beta

2009-03-14 Thread Chen Shen
Hi,

I encounter the same problem with all Gyre fonts as well. I am using:
MtxRun | current version: 2009.03.13 17:35
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.36.0-2009031418, build unknown

BTW, the \Vert delimiter (double vertical bar) is missing.

Regards,
shenchen

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Wolfgang Schuster 
schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Hans,

 I discovered two problems with the beta.

 1. \typescriptone is ignored in the typescripts and many fonts (e.g.
 can't be used)

 \starttypescript [termes,times]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [termes] [default]
 \stoptypescript

 2. The new feature \getcheckedparameters acts like \get*e*parameter in
 the lua code.

 Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] off topic: page numbering question

2009-03-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 14.03.2009 um 12:43 schrieb John Devereux:


Having said that it may well be that PDF viewers are clever enough to
know the logical page number rather than the physical one, does
anyone know about this?


http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20081216.091038.3b5ae9e1.en.html

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!

2009-03-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 14.03.2009 um 01:26 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:


Would it be possible to have such typographic
conventions (I could provide a more comprehensive list, of course)
enabled by \mainlanguage[pl]?


\startlanguagespecifics[pl]

... % what Mojca and Aditya told you

\stoplanguagespecifics

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!

2009-03-14 Thread Xan

En/na Aditya Mahajan ha escrit:

Hi Marcin,

On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Marcin Borkowski wrote:


Hi,

how to do this: here in Poland we have some conventions as for
typesetting math; for example, we don't use  \leq, but \leqslant;
In catalan and spanish languages we have too some conventions: $\max$ 
should type màx (with grave accent), and $\min$ should type mín 
(with accute accent).


Is it a way for doing this by default?
Xan.
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Re: [NTG-context] off topic: page numbering question

2009-03-14 Thread John Devereux
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com writes:

 Am 14.03.2009 um 12:43 schrieb John Devereux:

 Having said that it may well be that PDF viewers are clever enough to
 know the logical page number rather than the physical one, does
 anyone know about this?

 http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20081216.091038.3b5ae9e1.en.html


Thanks!

Using the example, viewers which correctly display the logical page
numbers (i,ii,iii,iv,1,2,3 etc) are:

xpdf   no
kpdf   no
ocular no
foxit  no
evince yes!
acrobat 4  yes

Only acrobat seems to cope with ii in the print dialog, although I did
not try very hard on the others.
 
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[NTG-context] type-win.tex

2009-03-14 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

Hello,
Can someone pls test my typescript?

It defines the following standard Windows fonts:
Arial
Arial Black
Comic Sans MS
Courier New
Franklin Gothic Medium
Georgia
Impact
Lucida Console
Lucida Sans Unicode
Microsoft Sans Serif
Palatino Linotype
Sylfaen
Tahoma
Times New Roman
Trebuchet MS
Verdana

Waiting for responses,
Vyatcheslav
\starttypescriptcollection[windows]

\starttypescript [serif] [georgia,palatino,times]
  \setups[font:fallback:serif]
  \definefontsynonym [Serif]   [\typescripttwo-Regular]
[features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]   [\typescripttwo-Bold]   
[features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [\typescripttwo-Italic] 
[features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [\typescripttwo-BoldItalic] 
[features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [sylfaen]
  \setups[font:fallback:serif]
  \definefontsynonym [Serif]   [\typescripttwo-Regular]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [arial,trebuchet,verdana]
  \setups[font:fallback:sans]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]   [\typescripttwo-Regular]
[features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]   [\typescripttwo-Bold]   
[features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [\typescripttwo-Italic] 
[features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [\typescripttwo-BoldItalic] 
[features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [arialblack,impact,lucidasans,microsans]
  \setups[font:fallback:sans]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]   [\typescripttwo-Regular]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [comic,tahoma]
  \setups[font:fallback:sans]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]   [\typescripttwo-Regular]
[features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]   [\typescripttwo-Bold]   
[features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [franklin]
  \setups[font:fallback:sans]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]   [\typescripttwo-Regular]
[features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [\typescripttwo-Italic] 
[features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [mono] [courier]
  \setups[font:fallback:mono]
  \definefontsynonym [Mono]   [\typescripttwo-Regular]
[features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [MonoBold]   [\typescripttwo-Bold]   
[features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [MonoItalic] [\typescripttwo-Italic] 
[features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [MonoBoldItalic] [\typescripttwo-BoldItalic] 
[features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [mono] [lucidaconsole]
  \setups[font:fallback:mono]
  \definefontsynonym [Mono]   [\typescripttwo-Regular]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript


\definetypescriptprefix [f:arial]  [Arial]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:arialblack] [Arial Black]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:comic]  [Comic Sans MS]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:courier][Courier New]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:franklin]   [Franklin Gothic Medium]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:georgia][Georgia]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:impact] [Impact]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:lucidaconsole]  [Lucida Console]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:lucidasans]  [Lucida Sans Unicode]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:microsans]  [Microsoft Sans Serif]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:palatino]   [Palatino Linotype]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:sylfaen][Sylfaen]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:tahoma] [Tahoma]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:times]  [Times New Roman]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:trebuchet]  [Trebuchet MS]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:verdana][Verdana]

\starttypescript [serif] [georgia,palatino,sylfaen,times]
  \definefontsynonym [\typescripttwo-Regular]
[name:\typescriptprefix{f:\typescripttwo}] [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [\typescripttwo-Bold]   
[name:\typescriptprefix{f:\typescripttwo} Bold][features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [\typescripttwo-Italic] 
[name:\typescriptprefix{f:\typescripttwo} Italic]  [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [\typescripttwo-BoldItalic] 
[name:\typescriptprefix{f:\typescripttwo} Bold Italic] [features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] 
[arial,arialblack,comic,franklin,impact,lucidasans,microsans,tahoma,trebuchet,verdana]
  \definefontsynonym [\typescripttwo-Regular]
[name:\typescriptprefix{f:\typescripttwo}] [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [\typescripttwo-Bold]   
[name:\typescriptprefix{f:\typescripttwo} Bold][features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [\typescripttwo-Italic] 
[name:\typescriptprefix{f:\typescripttwo} Italic]  [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [\typescripttwo-BoldItalic] 
[name:\typescriptprefix{f:\typescripttwo} Bold Italic] [features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [mono] [courier,lucidaconsole]
  \definefontsynonym [\typescripttwo-Regular]
[name:\typescriptprefix{f:\typescripttwo}] [features=default]
  

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt T-shirts?

2009-03-14 Thread Xan

En/na Xan ha escrit:

En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:


\startMPenvironment[global]
\usetypescript[postscript][ec]
\setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,144pt]\bf
\stopMPenvironment

Wolfgang


Without \bf at the end, I get letters more bold.
Is it not the contrary of natural behaviour? 8-|

Thanks,
Xan.


Hi another time ;-)

How can I get the background were transaparent? (not white)

Xan.
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Re: [NTG-context] What does \c! means?

2009-03-14 Thread Wei-Wei Guo

Thank you, Taco and Alan.


Best wishes,
Wei-Wei

Taco Hoekwater 写道:

Alan Stone wrote:

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Wei-Wei Guo wwgu...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear all,

I'm reading the source file of t-bib. I find there are lots of '\c!',
'\s!', and
'\v!'. What do they mean? I searched in wiki, TeXBook, ConTeXt 
manual, TeX

impatient,
and mail list. Those commands appear some times, but no explanation.



http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080629.104105.40e28a70.el.html


Also generally helpful for a low-level understanding of context are
these wiki pages:

  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros



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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt T-shirts?

2009-03-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 14.03.2009 um 14:50 schrieb Xan:


How can I get the background were transaparent? (not white)


What do you mean, the background is already transparent.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Context logo (was ConTeXt T-shirts?)

2009-03-14 Thread Xan

En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:


Am 14.03.2009 um 14:50 schrieb Xan:


How can I get the background were transaparent? (not white)


What do you mean, the background is already transparent.

Wolfgang

__
Wolfgang, when I run texexec prova.tex I obtain prova.pdf and 
prova-mpgraph.1 Both files have background white and not transparent 
background. I don't know how explain it.


Perhaps this 
[http://www.mediacollege.com/adobe/photoshop/transparent/background.html] 
could help you (?).


How do you mean that it's already transparent?

Xan.



prova.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
% logo.mp: creates a blue traffic sign-style context logo
% Copyright 2008 Taco Hoekwater
% You are free to use this code any way you can

\setupcolors[state=start,textcolor=white]

\startMPenvironment[global]
\usetypescript[postscript][ec]
\setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,144pt]
\stopMPenvironment 

\starttext

\startMPpage[offset=0pt]
color darkblue,textcolor;
darkblue := (0.0625,0,.412); % 0f006b =
textcolor := (1,1,1);
def rect (expr xl,yl,r) =
  pickup pencircle scaled 1;
  draw (xl-.5r,yl-.5r) -- (xl+.5r,yl-.5r)--
   (xl+.5r,yl+.5r) -- (xl-.5r,yl+.5r) -- cycle
withcolor textcolor;
enddef;

f:= 14;
h:=8;
v:=4;

fill fullcircle scaled 408 shifted (112,0)
withcolor darkblue;
label (textext(C), (0,v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ;
label (textext(O), (f*h,2*v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ;
label (textext(N), (2*f*h,v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ;
label (textext(T), (0,-v*f)) withcolor textcolor ;
label (textext(E), (f*h,0) ) withcolor textcolor ;
label (textext(X), (f*h*2,-v*f)) withcolor textcolor ;
label (textext(T), (f*h,-2*v*f)) withcolor textcolor ;
r := h*f;

rect (0,v*f,r);
rect (f*h,2*v*f,r);
rect (2*f*h,v*f,r);
rect (0,-v*f,r);
rect (f*h,0,r);
rect (f*h*2,-v*f,r);
rect (f*h,-2*v*f,r);
\stopMPpage

\stoptext 

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Re: [NTG-context] Context logo

2009-03-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


logo.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


Am 14.03.2009 um 16:45 schrieb Xan:

Wolfgang, when I run texexec prova.tex I obtain prova.pdf and prova- 
mpgraph.1 Both files have background white and not transparent  
background. I don't know how explain it.


Perhaps this [http://www.mediacollege.com/adobe/photoshop/transparent/background.html 
] could help you (?).


How do you mean that it's already transparent?


\setupcolors[state=start]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=green]
\starttext
\externalfigure[prova]
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!

2009-03-14 Thread Hans Hagen

Xan wrote:

En/na Aditya Mahajan ha escrit:

Hi Marcin,

On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Marcin Borkowski wrote:


Hi,

how to do this: here in Poland we have some conventions as for
typesetting math; for example, we don't use  \leq, but \leqslant;
In catalan and spanish languages we have too some conventions: $\max$ 
should type màx (with grave accent), and $\min$ should type mín 
(with accute accent).


Is it a way for doing this by default?


we could make them labels per language ... probably with some prefix 
like math:max or so



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Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!

2009-03-14 Thread Xan

En/na Hans Hagen ha escrit:

Xan wrote:

En/na Aditya Mahajan ha escrit:

Hi Marcin,

On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Marcin Borkowski wrote:


Hi,

how to do this: here in Poland we have some conventions as for
typesetting math; for example, we don't use  \leq, but \leqslant;
In catalan and spanish languages we have too some conventions: $\max$ 
should type màx (with grave accent), and $\min$ should type mín 
(with accute accent).


Is it a way for doing this by default?


we could make them labels per language ... probably with some prefix 
like math:max or so



Thanks, Hans.

A punctualization:
- \max -- màx for catalan, máx for spanish
- \min -- mín for both languages.

Sorry for the error.

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Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!

2009-03-14 Thread Hans Hagen

Aditya Mahajan wrote:


It is relatively easy to do this. I am in favour of implementing the
trignometric functions, etc; but I do not think that changing the 
meanings of
mathematical symbols is a good thing. It is really hard to remember the 
names of
symbols as is, changing meaning according to language will make it 
extremely

difficult.


indeed, so ... who is going to collect those labels? aditya and i can 
take care of the usage


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Re: [NTG-context] Context logo

2009-03-14 Thread Xan

En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:


Am 14.03.2009 um 16:45 schrieb Xan:

Wolfgang, when I run texexec prova.tex I obtain prova.pdf and 
prova-mpgraph.1 Both files have background white and not transparent 
background. I don't know how explain it.


Perhaps this 
[http://www.mediacollege.com/adobe/photoshop/transparent/background.html] 
could help you (?).


How do you mean that it's already transparent?


\setupcolors[state=start]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=green]
\starttext
\externalfigure[prova]
\stoptext

Wolfgang

Eh? Green? I think in transparent. I transform your logo.pdf with GIMP 
and applying transparency in green color. The result I save as png file 
(gimp says me that eps does not support transparency!? is it true?).


Please, see the png file and see that background is transparent.

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Re: [NTG-context] beta

2009-03-14 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Chen Shen wrote:


BTW, the \Vert delimiter (double vertical bar) is missing.


\starttext
$\Vert$
\stoptext

gives me \Vert. Can you give an example where it doesn't work?

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Re: [NTG-context] Context logo

2009-03-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 14.03.2009 um 17:15 schrieb Xan:


Eh? Green? I think in transparent.


I tried to show you the included pdf had a transparent background, the  
color is unimportant.


I transform your logo.pdf with GIMP and applying transparency in  
green color. The result I save as png file (gimp says me that eps  
does not support transparency!? is it true?).


Dunno about eps but AFAIK postscript 3(?) supports transparent colors.


Please , see the png file and see that background is transparent.


If you're interested I can send you a better version with bold letters.

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[NTG-context] XeTeX font feature selection

2009-03-14 Thread John Hughes
What is the correct way of selecting a font and using OpenType
features? I have tried

\definetypeface[linlib][rm][Xserif][Linux Libertine][features=oldstyle]
\setupbodyfont[linlib, 12pt]

but the output prints Computer Modern (and not with old-style
numerals). The font seems to work without the features=oldstyle, but
I am not sure how to select the font and some OpenType features. I
don't seem to be able to find any documentation.

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Re: [NTG-context] beta

2009-03-14 Thread Chen Shen
Hi Aditya,

minimal example:
\starttext
$\Vert x \Vert$

$\left\Vert x \right\Vert$
\stoptext

When I run context, the first line passes, but no vertical bar is displayed.
The second line triggers the following error message:

! Missing delimiter (. inserted).
to be read again
   \Umathchar
\Vert -\Umathchar
   0 0 2225
l.4 $\left\Vert
x \right\Vert$

thanks a lot.

regards,
shenchen

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:

 On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Chen Shen wrote:

  BTW, the \Vert delimiter (double vertical bar) is missing.


 \starttext
 $\Vert$
 \stoptext

 gives me \Vert. Can you give an example where it doesn't work?

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Re: [NTG-context] beta

2009-03-14 Thread Hans Hagen

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Hi Hans,

I discovered two problems with the beta.

1. \typescriptone is ignored in the typescripts and many fonts (e.g.
can't be used)

\starttypescript [termes,times]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [termes] [default]
\stoptypescript

2. The new feature \getcheckedparameters acts like \get*e*parameter in
the lua code.


fixed

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Re: [NTG-context] beta

2009-03-14 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Chen Shen wrote:


Hi Aditya,

minimal example:
\starttext
$\Vert x \Vert$

$\left\Vert x \right\Vert$
\stoptext

When I run context, the first line passes, but no vertical bar is displayed.
The second line triggers the following error message:

! Missing delimiter (. inserted).
to be read again
  \Umathchar
\Vert -\Umathchar
  0 0 2225
l.4 $\left\Vert
   x \right\Vert$

thanks a lot.


Make the following change in char-def.lua and regenerate formats.

@@ -52729,8 +52729,7 @@ characters.data={
   linebreak=ai,
   mathspec={
{ class=relation, name=parallel },
-   { class=nothing, name=Vert },
+   { class=delimiter, name=Vert },
{ class=nothing, name=Arrowvert },
{ class=open, name=lVert },
{ class=close, name=rVert },


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Re: [NTG-context] die if a module is missing

2009-03-14 Thread Hans Hagen

Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:


Michael Bynum wrote:

This has burned me too.  It would be nice if the errors were more
prominent, perhaps repeated at the end of the output?


ok, i do repeat it now; aborting the run is no options as some modules 
might have been removed due to integration in the core


Then the user should know that and update the source file :-). It can be 
a normal error prompt, the one where you get a question mark and are 
asked if you want to continue or abort (rather than enter the file name 
prompt of \input).


I do feel that for user modules, there should be an error when the 
module is not found. If you do not want the above behaviour as a 
default, it could be a configurable option.


needs thinking ... i don't want fully automated flows to abort unseen

configuration is an option but again i first need a mechanism for that 
(and we should all agree on 'what is fatal' and not)


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Re: [NTG-context] Context logo

2009-03-14 Thread Xan

En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:


Am 14.03.2009 um 17:15 schrieb Xan:


Eh? Green? I think in transparent.


I tried to show you the included pdf had a transparent background, the 
color is unimportant.
Eh? Can you explain with more details this fact?. I see green the 
blackground. Why do you say that it's not important and transparent?


I transform your logo.pdf with GIMP and applying transparency in 
green color. The result I save as png file (gimp says me that eps 
does not support transparency!? is it true?).


Dunno about eps but AFAIK postscript 3(?) supports transparent colors.

How do you pass from pdf to postscript?.
When I run texexec prova.tex I get prova-mpgraph.1 that file says me 
that it's eps. How can I pass from this file to transparent postscript? 
or from pdf to postscript?


In theory if postscript support transparent background, eps should do (?)





Please , see the png file and see that background is transparent.


If you're interested I can send you a better version with bold letters.


Yes, I want to have exactly the same logo of the wiki.


Wolfgang


Thanks Wolfgang for your hacking. ;-)

Regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] Context logo

2009-03-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 14.03.2009 um 20:22 schrieb Xan:

I tried to show you the included pdf had a transparent background,  
the color is unimportant.


Eh? Can you explain with more details this fact?. I see green the  
blackground. Why do you say that it's not important and transparent?


Let me explain this on a example.

\setupcolors[state=start]
\starttext
\externalfigure[contextlogo.png][frame=on]
\page
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=red]
\externalfigure[contextlogo.png][frame=on]
\stoptext

You can on the first page the background of the picture is white,
to show the site of the picture I enabled the frame. On the second
page I set a background color for the entire page and as you can
see the background of the picture around the circle has the same
color as the page background, this could only happen because the
background of the picture is transparent. If you go now back on
the first page you can now see, the white background is not from
the picture but from the page background.

I transform your logo.pdf with GIMP and applying transparency in  
green color. The result I save as png file (gimp says me that eps  
does not support transparency!? is it true?).


Dunno about eps but AFAIK postscript 3(?) supports transparent  
colors.


How do you pass from pdf to postscript?.
When I run texexec prova.tex I get prova-mpgraph.1 that file says me  
that it's eps. How can I pass from this file to transparent  
postscript? or from pdf to postscript?


In theory if postscript support transparent background, eps should  
do (?)


Dou you need the eps generated or can you also use the pdf generated
from ConTeXt with the included metapost graphic.

If you're interested I can send you a better version with bold  
letters.


Yes, I want to have exactly the same logo of the wiki.


Which size do you need?

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Context logo

2009-03-14 Thread Xan

En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:


Am 14.03.2009 um 20:22 schrieb Xan:

I tried to show you the included pdf had a transparent background, 
the color is unimportant.


Eh? Can you explain with more details this fact?. I see green the 
blackground. Why do you say that it's not important and transparent?


Let me explain this on a example.

\setupcolors[state=start]
\starttext
\externalfigure[contextlogo.png][frame=on]
\page
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=red]
\externalfigure[contextlogo.png][frame=on]
\stoptext

You can on the first page the background of the picture is white,
to show the site of the picture I enabled the frame. On the second
page I set a background color for the entire page and as you can
see the background of the picture around the circle has the same
color as the page background, this could only happen because the
background of the picture is transparent. If you go now back on
the first page you can now see, the white background is not from
the picture but from the page background.


Yes, Wolfgang. Now I understand it.
The actually process is:
texexec prova.tex -- prova.pdf and prova-mpgraph.1 (eps file) generated.

Try your code for prova.pdf:
\setupcolors[state=start]
\starttext
\externalfigure[prova.pdf][frame=on]
\page
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=red]
\externalfigure[prova.pdf][frame=on]
\stoptext

and I see what you said.
So it has transparent background, but why gimp says that eps does not 
support transparency? Strange. Really strange.





If you're interested I can send you a better version with bold letters.


Yes, I want to have exactly the same logo of the wiki.


Which size do you need?
Size? The size of the font: the same. But more bold.If you see wiki logo 
have letters more bold than our pdf logo (see attachments)


Wolfgang


Thanks a lot,
Xan.


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[NTG-context] inclusion of pdf figures

2009-03-14 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Excuse me if this has been reported before, but I couldn't find  
anything in the archive: has inclusion of pdf figures been broken in  
mkiv for longer or just in the most recent release? This works in mkii  
and fails in mkiv:


\starttext

\externalfigure[~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/cow] 
[type=pdf,width=5cm]


\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Context logo

2009-03-14 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Xan wrote:




Yes, Wolfgang. Now I understand it.
The actually process is:
texexec prova.tex -- prova.pdf and prova-mpgraph.1 (eps file) generated.

and I see what you said.
So it has transparent background, but why gimp says that eps does not support 
transparency? Strange. Really strange.


AFAIU, trasparency is implemented using specials in mp code, so the eps 
(the .1 file) does not contain transparency, but the pdf does. Did you 
open the pdf or the eps file in gimp?


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Re: [NTG-context] inclusion of pdf figures

2009-03-14 Thread Hans Hagen

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
Excuse me if this has been reported before, but I couldn't find anything 
in the archive: has inclusion of pdf figures been broken in mkiv for 
longer or just in the most recent release? This works in mkii and fails 
in mkiv:


\starttext

\externalfigure[~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/cow][type=pdf,width=5cm] 


it's luatex itself, hartmut is working on it right now so expect a new 
version after the weekend


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Re: [NTG-context] inclusion of pdf figures

2009-03-14 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz


On Mar 14, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

it's luatex itself, hartmut is working on it right now so expect a  
new version after the weekend


Hans


OK, I see, thanks! Maybe I'll drive over to Schwetzingen and yell at  
Hartmut to motivate him...


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[NTG-context] \FlushStep in module s-pre-50 adds too much space

2009-03-14 Thread Curious Learn
Hello,

I tried using module s-pre-50 to get stepwise revelation of the content in my
presentation today. I noticed that the command \FlushStep adds what seems to be
too much space between successive items. Is there a way, I can prevent
\FlushStep from adding this much space.

Thank you.

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Re: [NTG-context] pinyin in context

2009-03-14 Thread Bill Long

Dear Hans,

Can you help check if you can implement a new feature of pinyin
input in context?

I upload the effect I wanna get in bellow link ( what I provide last
time seemed doesn't work), Please check.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=weilai.longtarget=ALBUMid=5313243080349643217authkey=Gv1sRgCJLO9v__gOPr_gEfeat=email


Thanks in advance.




On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:44:49PM +0800, Bill Long wrote:
 I input pinyin above Chinese character in bellow way:
 ---
 \documentclass{article}
 \usepackage[overlap, CJK]{ruby}
 \usepackage{pinyin}
 \usepackage{CJK}
 \begin{CJK*}{UTF8}{song}
 \begin{document}
 \renewcommand{\rubysep}{.3ex}
 \renewcommand{\rubysize}{.5}
 
 \ruby{静}{\jing4} \ruby{夜}{\ye4}\ruby{思}{\si1}
 
 \end{CJK*}
 \end{document}
 
 
 but it has poor line break,
 
 Does contex support  pinyin ? and how to implement?
 
 Thanks.
 

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