Re: [NTG-context] Cambria integral operator
Sebastian Sturm wrote: Hi all, I have been playing around a bit with the new ConTeXt Minimals and especially Cambria Math. I couldn't figure out, however, why the integral operator always comes out at about half the size of \sum or \prod. I couldn't find any relevant threads on the mailing list, but surely this is not the way it's supposed to be? No, that is clearly not right. I will investigate and report back. On the \widehat: it scales as far as the font allows it to. If that is not wide enough, I guess you could send a bug report to Microsoft. Is there some list on the web showing what parts of math have been implemented, what still needs to be done (and, where someone with limited TeX knowledge could provide some assistance)? No, not on the web. But there are only a few known MATH issues in the core/mkiv that I know of: * Latin Modern Math (and other old math font) virtual definitions are far from perfect (but that should not affect you, as you are using CambriaMath). * There is no support for skewed (text-style, with a diagonal bar, like in the frac feature) fractions yet in luatex. * The traditional TeX commands \atopwithdelims, \overwithdelims, and \abovewithdelims do not work properly because there is no matching MATH parameter at all. The real problem though, is that we do not have massive math tests: neither Hans nor me do any math typesetting in daily practise. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Cambria integral operator
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Sebastian Sturm wrote: Hi all, I have been playing around a bit with the new ConTeXt Minimals and especially Cambria Math. I couldn't figure out, however, why the integral operator always comes out at about half the size of \sum or \prod. I couldn't find any relevant threads on the mailing list, but surely this is not the way it's supposed to be? No, that is clearly not right. I will investigate and report back. This looks like another font bug, but it is one that maybe needs patching in the mkiv core. The font defines DisplayOperatorMinHeight to be 2500 units. The smallest integral that satifies that specification has a total height of 2768 units (at 12pt fontsize, that is 16.3pt), the smallest matching summation has a total height of 4056 units (22.9pt). That is indeed way bigger, but the context output matches the MATH table specification. But to prevent ugly output, it may be better to force the DisplayOperatorMinHeight to 2800 (the next integral is 4405 units). Hans, Aditya, WDYT? Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Cambria integral operator
Dear Taco, On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Taco Hoekwater wrote: I have been playing around a bit with the new ConTeXt Minimals and especially Cambria Math. I couldn't figure out, however, why the integral operator always comes out at about half the size of \sum or \prod. No, that is clearly not right. I will investigate and report back. This looks like another font bug, but it is one that maybe needs patching in the mkiv core. Hans, Aditya, WDYT? While you are at it, may you take a second look at the integral limits placement, as it was already reported in http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg39749.html Sincerely, Michail ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Combining \sc and \em
Hi,
Under the latest beta (2009.10.02 13:14), it doesn't seem possible to
access \SerifCapsSlanted by combining the \em and \sc font switches.
The following test case demonstrates this:
---
\definefont [SlantyCaps][SerifCapsSlanted]
\starttext
{\em Italics works.} \par
{\sc Small caps works.} \par
{\em \sc But how do we combine them?} \par
{\SlantyCaps Except like this?}
\stoptext
---
A project I'm working on has certain words which always appear in
smallcaps, and I'd like them to be italicised if the context demands
it (no pun intended).
Greetings from London,
Tim
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[NTG-context] Problem with \setupinterlinespace
In this example interlines spaces look a bit strange to me \starttext \input knuth \begingroup \tfx\setupinterlinespace[reset] \starttyping function newCounter() local i = 0 return function() i = i+1 return i end end c1 = newCounter() print(c1()) -- 1 print(c1()) -- 2 c2 = newCounter() print(c2()) -- 1 print(c1()) -- 3 print(c2()) -- 2 \stoptyping \endgroup \input tufte \stoptext Can someone confirm this ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \setupinterlinespace
luigi scarso schrieb: In this example interlines spaces look a bit strange to me \starttext \input knuth \begingroup \tfx\setupinterlinespace[reset] \starttyping function newCounter() local i = 0 return function() i = i+1 return i end end c1 = newCounter() print(c1()) -- 1 print(c1()) -- 2 c2 = newCounter() print(c2()) -- 1 print(c1()) -- 3 print(c2()) -- 2 \stoptyping \endgroup \input tufte \stoptext Can someone confirm this ? yep! the third paragraph has wrong interlinespace here. but if you add a \par or an emtpy line after '\input knuth' things look ok here. bug or feature ;) best wishes, peter ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] obscure luatex error
In trying to compile a LARGE project (585 pages, 260 figures, 27 tables, indexing, bibliography, ...), I produce an obscure luatex error: luatex: ../../../source/texk/web2c/luatexdir/tex/printing.c:266: print: Assertion `c 256' failed. [329.327MTXrun | fatal error, no return code, message: luatex: execution interrupted probably due to a floatblock or other buffer overflow, I suspect. For if I remove about half of the chapters from the project, it will compile. Latest minimals distribution: ConTeXt ver: 2009.10.02 13:14 MKIV fmt: 2009.10.15 int: english/english mkiv lua stats : luatex banner - this is luatex, version beta-0.43.0-2009081914 I have tried both amd64 and i386, and both fail at the same point, so it is not a problem of (dynamic) memory allocation (there is more available on the first machine). The full project compiles under mkii but systematically fails under mkiv. Unfortunately, I cannot produce a minimal example... Can someone suggest how I should proceed, such as any configuration file that can be tuned... ? Thanks Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \setupinterlinespace
What about this ?
\usemodule[maps]
\usemodule[visual]
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\setuplanguage[en]
\definecolumnsetspan[wide][n=2]
\def\Tfx{\tfx\setupinterlinespace[line=2.5ex]}
\starttext
\startArticle [Year=2009,
Number=xx,
Period=xx,
Page=1,
Title={foo},
Author={Luigi Scarso}]
\input knuth
\blank
\begingroup
\Tfx
\input knuth\par
\starttyping
function newCounter()
local i = 0
return function()
i = i+1
return i
end
end
c1 = newCounter()
print(c1()) -- 1
print(c1()) -- 2
c2 = newCounter()
print(c2()) -- 1
print(c1()) -- 3
print(c2()) -- 2
\stoptyping
\input knuth\par
\endgroup
\blank
\input tufte \par
\stopArticle
\stoptext
--
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[NTG-context] placefigure broken in mkiv?
Hello,
A document that was previously compiled successfully a few months ago,
now throws an exception.
My code:
\placefigure
[middle]
{none}
{\externalfigure[2009-05-26_200309s][width=0.9\textwidth]}
My result:
! Missing number, treated as zero.
to be read again
\currentfloatattribute
\floatcaptionattribute ... \currentfloatattribute
\fi \fi \fi
\docompletefloat ... \vbox \floatcaptionattribute
{\doifelsemainfloatbody \c...
argument ...at {figure}{}{middle}{none}\nextbox
\else
\docompletefloat {fi...
\thirdofthreearguments #1#2#3-#3
\xdocompletefloat ...afloat ,#3}{#4}\nextbox \fi }
\else
\docompletefloat {#1...
...
l.22 ...[2009-05-26_200309s][width=0.9\textwidth]}
?
What it could mean?
Regards,
Vyatcheslav
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Re: [NTG-context] obscure luatex error
Hi,
luatex: ../../../source/texk/web2c/luatexdir/tex/printing.c:266: print:
Assertion `c 256' failed.
[329.327MTXrun | fatal error, no return code, message: luatex: execution
interrupted
A quick glance at the code, shows it's in the following part:
/*
An entire string is output by calling |print|. Note that if we are outputting
the single standard ASCII character \.c, we could call |print(c)|, since
|c=99| is the number of a single-character string, as explained above. But
|print_char(c)| is quicker, so \TeX\ goes directly to the |print_char|
routine when it knows that this is safe. (The present implementation
assumes that it is always safe to print a visible ASCII character.)
@^system dependencies@
The first 256 entries above the 17th unicode plane are used for a
special trick: when \TeX\ has to print items in that range, it will
instead print the character that results from substracting 0x11
from that value. This allows byte-oriented output to things like
\.{\\specials} and \.{\\pdfliterals}. Todo: Perhaps it would be useful
to do the same substraction while typesetting.
*/
void print(integer s)
{ /* prints string |s| */
...
} else if (s = 0x11) {
int c = s - 0x11;
assert(c 256);
print_char(c);
} else {
...
}
It seems the second comment block talks about the code in which the error
occurs. It also seems that this is either caused by some very high unicode
character that's printed, or some invalid (uninitialized?) value is passed to
print().
Do you think you could compile luatex with CFLAGS=-g, and run it in gdb to get
a backtrace? That might help to see where this comes from...
Gr.
Matthijs
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Re: [NTG-context] Cambria integral operator
Michail Vidiassov wrote: While you are at it, may you take a second look at the integral limits placement, as it was already reported in I did a trick in commit #3066 just now: the C function var_delimiter() (which is used for large operators as well as actual delimiters) now ignores italic corrections for 'new math' fonts. It certainly helps, the placement is now much better. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] obscure luatex error
Matthijs Kooijman wrote: It seems the second comment block talks about the code in which the error occurs. It also seems that this is either caused by some very high unicode character that's printed, or some invalid (uninitialized?) value is passed to print(). Do you think you could compile luatex with CFLAGS=-g, and run it in gdb to get a backtrace? That might help to see where this comes from... Like Matthijs says, a backtrace is really needed to pinpoint this. If you can not figure out how to do that, then perhaps sending me (personally) the complete input in an archive is an option? Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] obscure luatex error
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Matthijs Kooijman matth...@stdin.nl wrote:
Hi,
luatex: ../../../source/texk/web2c/luatexdir/tex/printing.c:266: print:
Assertion `c 256' failed.
[329.327MTXrun | fatal error, no return code, message: luatex: execution
interrupted
A quick glance at the code, shows it's in the following part:
/*
An entire string is output by calling |print|. Note that if we are outputting
the single standard ASCII character \.c, we could call |print(c)|, since
|c=99| is the number of a single-character string, as explained above. But
|print_char(c)| is quicker, so \TeX\ goes directly to the |print_char|
routine when it knows that this is safe. (The present implementation
assumes that it is always safe to print a visible ASCII character.)
�...@^system dependencies@
The first 256 entries above the 17th unicode plane are used for a
special trick: when \TeX\ has to print items in that range, it will
instead print the character that results from substracting 0x11
from that value. This allows byte-oriented output to things like
\.{\\specials} and \.{\\pdfliterals}. Todo: Perhaps it would be useful
to do the same substraction while typesetting.
*/
void print(integer s)
{ /* prints string |s| */
...
} else if (s = 0x11) {
int c = s - 0x11;
assert(c 256);
print_char(c);
} else {
...
}
It seems the second comment block talks about the code in which the error
occurs. It also seems that this is either caused by some very high unicode
character that's printed, or some invalid (uninitialized?) value is passed to
print().
Do you think you could compile luatex with CFLAGS=-g, and run it in gdb to get
a backtrace? That might help to see where this comes from...
changing
STRIP_LUATEX=TRUE
in
STRIP_LUATEX=FALSE
in build.sh isn't enough ?
--
luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] obscure luatex error
On Thursday 15 October 2009 16:36:01 luigi scarso wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Matthijs Kooijman matth...@stdin.nl wrote: Hi luigi, Do you think you could compile luatex with CFLAGS=-g, and run it in gdb to get a backtrace? That might help to see where this comes from... changing STRIP_LUATEX=TRUE in STRIP_LUATEX=FALSE in build.sh isn't enough ? I don't know the luatex build system, I just posted general instructions :-) pretty simple, on linux: download source,uncompress and $./build.sh Not so easy: I have never compiled luatex before! $ svn checkout http://foundry.supelec.fr/svn/luatex (downloads 3.9G, including all beta versions in tag/) $ cd trunk $ ./build.sh --nostrip ... libtool: link: gcc lib/lib.a /home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk/kpathsea/.libs/libkpathsea.a -lm lib/lib.a(main.o): In function `main': /home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk/web2c/lib/../../../../source/texk/web2c/lib/main.c:26: undefined reference to `mainbody' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[5]: *** [tangleboot] Error 1 make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk/web2c' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk/web2c' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk/web2c' make[2]: *** [subtexk] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 luatex binary not stripped ls: cannot access build/texk/web2c/luatex: No such file or directory $ So I do not yet have a compiled, unstripped version of luatex. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] obscure luatex error
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr wrote: On Thursday 15 October 2009 16:36:01 luigi scarso wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Matthijs Kooijman matth...@stdin.nl wrote: Hi luigi, Do you think you could compile luatex with CFLAGS=-g, and run it in gdb to get a backtrace? That might help to see where this comes from... changing STRIP_LUATEX=TRUE in STRIP_LUATEX=FALSE in build.sh isn't enough ? I don't know the luatex build system, I just posted general instructions :-) pretty simple, on linux: download source,uncompress and $./build.sh Not so easy: I have never compiled luatex before! welcome! $ svn checkout http://foundry.supelec.fr/svn/luatex (downloads 3.9G, including all beta versions in tag/) $ cd trunk $ ./build.sh --nostrip ... libtool: link: gcc lib/lib.a /home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk/kpathsea/.libs/libkpathsea.a -lm lib/lib.a(main.o): In function `main': /home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk/web2c/lib/../../../../source/texk/web2c/lib/main.c:26: undefined reference to `mainbody' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[5]: *** [tangleboot] Error 1 make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk/web2c' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk/web2c' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk/web2c' make[2]: *** [subtexk] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/local/src/luatex/trunk/build/texk' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 luatex binary not stripped ls: cannot access build/texk/web2c/luatex: No such file or directory $ Try add export CONFIG_SHELL='/bin/bash' in build.sh around line 14 ie from this # try to find gnu make; we may need it MAKE=make; to this # try to find gnu make; we may need it export CONFIG_SHELL='/bin/bash' MAKE=make; -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] placefigure broken in mkiv?
Am 15.10.2009 um 16:04 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:
Hello,
A document that was previously compiled successfully a few months
ago, now throws an exception.
My code:
\placefigure
[middle]
{none}
{\externalfigure[2009-05-26_200309s][width=0.9\textwidth]}
\placefigure[middle,none]{}{...}
the official way in mkiv (please add this to the new mkii/mkiv
difference page on the wiki)
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure broken in mkiv?
On Thursday 15 October 2009 17:29:12 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 15.10.2009 um 16:04 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:
Hello,
A document that was previously compiled successfully a few months
ago, now throws an exception.
My code:
\placefigure
[middle]
{none}
{\externalfigure[2009-05-26_200309s][width=0.9\textwidth]}
\placefigure[middle,none]{}{...}
the official way in mkiv (please add this to the new mkii/mkiv
difference page on the wiki)
This indeed is a cleaner syntax.
However, on the subject of \placefigure,
there appears to be a small bug in mkiv.
(Untested) minimal example:
\usemodule[bib]
...
\starttext
\placefigure[right,none]{}{\externalfigure[file][width=.3\textwidth]
Text...\cite{Me2009}
\blank[2*line]
\placepublications[criterium=all]
\stoptext
The publications list is typeset full \textwidth and overflows the figure.
Alan
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[NTG-context] interline spacing, me too
Hi,
please look at the attachment. I want different interline spacing for
big, normal and small font sizes. What is the best approach?
I tried \setupinterlinespace[big] (works only after \starttext!) or
\setupinterlinespace[line=3.5ex] (works also before \starttext) but
this changes, as intended, interline spacing as a whole.
There is also \setupbodyfontenvironment (Problem with \chapter{…} or
did I something wrong?). Now I've to use \switchtobodyfont[…] instead
of \tfa and so on. Is there a trick?
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Re: [NTG-context] interline spacing, me too
Andreas Harder schrieb:
Hi,
please look at the attachment. I want different interline spacing for
big, normal and small font sizes. What is the best approach?
I tried \setupinterlinespace[big] (works only after \starttext!) or
\setupinterlinespace[line=3.5ex] (works also before \starttext) but
this changes, as intended, interline spacing as a whole.
There is also \setupbodyfontenvironment (Problem with \chapter{…} or
did I something wrong?). Now I've to use \switchtobodyfont[…] instead
of \tfa and so on. Is there a trick?
sorry, no direct answer to your questions. but if you add a \showstruts
to your document (after \starttext), you will see two big struts on both
sides of the chapter number. looks like these struts (~80pt) cause the
trouble here.
hth, peter
Thank you in advance
Andreas
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Re: [NTG-context] interline spacing, me too
Andreas Harder wrote:
There is also \setupbodyfontenvironment (Problem with \chapter{…} or did
I something wrong?). Now I've to use \switchtobodyfont[…] instead of
\tfa and so on.
Why not do that? If you are fiddling with the interline space, it is
IMO better to switch the whole bodyfont, just in case.
Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] interline spacing, me too
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Andreas Harder wrote:
There is also \setupbodyfontenvironment (Problem with \chapter{…} or
did I something wrong?). Now I've to use \switchtobodyfont[…] instead
of \tfa and so on.
Why not do that? If you are fiddling with the interline space, it is
IMO better to switch the whole bodyfont, just in case.
Oh, I see. Somehow the interlinespace setting from the typescript
doesn't come through. You could do this:
\setuphead
[chapter]
[style={\switchtobodyfont[18pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=10ex]}]
but it is weird that it does not work out of the box.
Best wishes,
Taco
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