Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
Yes, I see that would be a non-trivial problem. Maybe as a stop-gap some ConTeXt files could be provided which at least roughly emulate a few standard LaTeX styles? -Alasdair On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: For example. the LaTeX ieee.sty is available at http://delphiwww.cern.ch/delphi$www/private/det/stc/ieee94/mp/ieee.styand ACM styles at http://www.acm.org/publications/latex_style/. How hard would it be to emulate these in ConTeXt? The hard part is figuring out the values (font size, spaces after sections, etc) from the LaTeX code. It is difficult to look at http://mirror.hmc.edu/ctan/macros/latex/contrib/IEEEtran/IEEEtran.cls and figure out what is the title size for a 10pt document, or how much space should come between the author block and the start of the two column text, etc. Reverse engineering these values is no fun. That is why I am saying that an *exact and complete* spec is needed. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- Blog: http://amca01.wordpress.com Web: http://bit.ly/Alasdair Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/alasdair.mcandrew ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
Am 2011-03-14 um 07:33 schrieb Alasdair McAndrew: Yes, I see that would be a non-trivial problem. Maybe as a stop-gap some ConTeXt files could be provided which at least roughly emulate a few standard LaTeX styles? Again: We senior ConTeXt users won’t look thoroughly at a few standard LaTeX styles just to copy their look for a few switchers. We don’t need them. We design our own styles after our needs. We don’t stick to a few standard styles. It’s ConTeXt, not LaTeX. If you come up with specifications, we can help you implementing them. Otherwise consider paying one of us for doing annoying, unnecessary work. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Minimals (was: Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?)
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 22:35, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: even if simply because setuptex is too slow for every new Terminal window You can just as well use export PATH=/path/to/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin:$PATH which should be much faster. Setuptex doesn't do anything else. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
Hi, On 03/13/2011 12:04 AM, Pontus Lurcock wrote: On Sat 12 Mar 2011, C. wrote: 2) why they my be reluctant to install the minimals? Because they already have it in miktex, texlive. What they don't know is that these versions are outdated and due to the heavy development pretty far behind. Plus, it should say Context Standalone because that is what it is. I think Context Standalone would be a good name: as I understand it, minimals refers to the fact that it doesn't include other TeX formats and associated baggage; standalone conveys the same idea with less ambiguity, and hints at the fact that it won't interfere with your system's package manager. I agree, that sounds like a good name. Mojca, this does not need much more initial work than fixing the wiki pages, right? Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is Minimals ready for non-developers to use? (Tom)
Dear Tom, I am sorry that my experience is not help for you. I am usning Mac OS X. I just downloaded first-setup.sh and run it. Then it installs minimal and makes formats well. Minimal's current version: 2011.02.25 22:03 This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.65.0-2010121316 However, I believe that Mojca's suggestion will relieve you from the install problem. Hope you succeed to install stable ConTeXt. Best regards, Dalyoung ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
2011/3/14 Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu: The hard part is figuring out the values (font size, spaces after sections, etc) from the LaTeX code. It is difficult to look at http://mirror.hmc.edu/ctan/macros/latex/contrib/IEEEtran/IEEEtran.cls and figure out what is the title size for a 10pt document, or how much space should come between the author block and the start of the two column text, etc. Erm - is that really needed? Today a typical journal's workflow should accept articles in LaTeX _markup_, convert that to XML and feed it to an XML formatter (which may well use TeX) eventually. I see ConTeXt's role there as the XML formatter. Or it could digest LaTeX markup - but then it would need more than just the layout. Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Does MKIV take more time as MKII
I installed the minimals and use MKIV. It seems that it is 1,5 to 2 times as slow as the MKII I used in texlive. Is this possible, or should there be something else that is responsible for this? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
On 2011-03-13 23:12:36, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: Speaking as a raw ConTeXt beginner, I would find it very helpful to have a library of different styles: LaTeX, journal, conference and book styles. Although all the information is probably there, it is very scattered around though manuals, the wiki, and other documents, and so is in consequence not always easy to find. Why don't you create a wiki page with the **exact** specifications. Then others can write the ConTeXt code to show how to achieve that specification. We can perhaps have a cookbook section on the wiki, which can use these specification as exercise. +1, best idea so far. Not only regarding latex-specific commonplaces but for typographical tasks in general (along the lines of “how I implemented Bringhurst’s chapter enumeration” c.). Would it suffice to just create another wiki namespace like the command reference has? (Entries should have a date stamp and state the context version they were written for.) Philipp Without the exact specification, it is very difficult to understand what a journal style or a book style means. Not all journals and books have the same style. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments pgpN2kfvuusaG.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Putting citations in an e-book
2011/3/8 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com
2011/3/8 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com
\define[2]\epigraph
{\blank
\startframedtext[middle][frame=off,offset=none,width=fit,align=middle]%
\color[darkgreen]{#2}\endgraf
\rightaligned{\it #1}%
\stopframedtext
\blank}
I want to do something like:
\epigraph{Elbert Hubbard}{
Many people fail in life, not for lack of ability or brains or even
courage,
but simply because they have never organized their energies around a
goal.}
Because I want to have the but on the second line, with the rest of the
text. But this gives:
Runaway argument?
With the definition of \define in MkII the argument of the command can’t
contain a paragraph, a workaround is to define the \epigraph macro with
\long\def\epigraph#1#2{...}
or to use MkIV.
I am now using MKIV and the problemis solved.
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Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
FWIW, specifications of standard LaTeX styles can be found herehttp://www.tug.org/texlive/devsrc/Master/texmf-dist/doc/latex/base/classes.pdf. It's a closely written 66 page document. -Alasdair On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de wrote: 2011/3/14 Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu: The hard part is figuring out the values (font size, spaces after sections, etc) from the LaTeX code. It is difficult to look at http://mirror.hmc.edu/ctan/macros/latex/contrib/IEEEtran/IEEEtran.clsand figure out what is the title size for a 10pt document, or how much space should come between the author block and the start of the two column text, etc. Erm - is that really needed? Today a typical journal's workflow should accept articles in LaTeX _markup_, convert that to XML and feed it to an XML formatter (which may well use TeX) eventually. I see ConTeXt's role there as the XML formatter. Or it could digest LaTeX markup - but then it would need more than just the layout. Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- Blog: http://amca01.wordpress.com Web: http://bit.ly/Alasdair Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/alasdair.mcandrew ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Why does bookmarks show also sections
2011/3/3 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com I use: \placebookmarks[chapter,section][chapter] \setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark] As I understand it there should be bookmarks generated for chapters and sections. When opening the document only the bookmarks for chapters should be shown. But all bookmarks are shown. What is going wrong? In MKIV it works. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Using bookmarks
I am using: \placebookmarks[part,chapter,section][part,chapter] \setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark] When I have the PDF file displayed fill window width and I click on a section. The page where this section is on, is displayed in full page. I would prefer the zoom level would stay the same and the start of the section would be displayed at the top of the page. Is this possible? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] math spacing
Hi Hans VdM and Wolfgang, It is true that naming a variable PYR, even in plain TeX, as shown below, gives rise to an ugly mathematical symbol since there is a certain distance between the « Y » and the « R » with math italic: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4316076/spacing-plain.pdf The problem may be the bounding box of « Y ». However, I think that in the example given by Hans VdM in mkiv, there is another, more important, issue which is the way the commas are treated between the variables Q, Y, N, P, Y, Z in math italic. Please compare the following outputs, one obtained with mkii and the other with mkiv: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4316076/spacing-mkii.pdf http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4316076/spacing-mkiv.pdf I think that this is a big issue in typesetting maths with mkiv since punctuations are treated in an incorrect way. Best regards: OK PS: Sorry for the delay… yesterday this message was rejected when sent with the attached PDFs, because it was over 64Kb. On 13 mars 2011, at 13:16, Hans van der Meer wrote: It might be that I am missing something here. But I don not understand why in the math expression below the spacing behind the letters is different. With this behaviour it seems impossible to name a variable PYR and have it typeset as such. Hans van der Meer \starttext $\tfd Q,Y,N,P,Y,Z \quad PYR$ \stoptext ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV fmt: 2011.3.11 int: english/english test.pdf___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Beside blank with 1 or 2, how to do it with 1.5
I would like to do something like:
\setuphead[section][before={\blank[1.5*big] \testpage[12]}]
This does not work. I get:
to be read again
*
argument 1.5*
big
\addaskedblankskip ...nce \blankskip #1\dimexpr #2
\relax
But I can do:
\setuphead[section][before={\blank[2*big] \testpage[12]}]
How to implement what I want?
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Re: [NTG-context] Beside blank with 1 or 2, how to do it with 1.5
Am 14.03.2011 um 12:29 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:
I would like to do something like:
\setuphead[section][before={\blank[1.5*big] \testpage[12]}]
This does not work. I get:
to be read again
*
argument 1.5*
big
\addaskedblankskip ...nce \blankskip #1\dimexpr #2
\relax
But I can do:
\setuphead[section][before={\blank[2*big] \testpage[12]}]
How to implement what I want?
You can only use natural numbers for the multiple of a value or write
“\blank[line,halfline]”.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Beside blank with 1 or 2, how to do it with 1.5
2011/3/14 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com
Am 14.03.2011 um 12:29 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:
I would like to do something like:
\setuphead[section][before={\blank[1.5*big] \testpage[12]}]
This does not work. I get:
to be read again
*
argument 1.5*
big
\addaskedblankskip ...nce \blankskip #1\dimexpr #2
\relax
But I can do:
\setuphead[section][before={\blank[2*big] \testpage[12]}]
How to implement what I want?
You can only use natural numbers for the multiple of a value or write
“\blank[line,halfline]”.
Okay, thanks. I will use 2*big then.
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Re: [NTG-context] math spacing
Am 14.03.2011 um 12:14 schrieb Otared Kavian: Hi Hans VdM and Wolfgang, It is true that naming a variable PYR, even in plain TeX, as shown below, gives rise to an ugly mathematical symbol since there is a certain distance between the « Y » and the « R » with math italic: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4316076/spacing-plain.pdf The problem may be the bounding box of « Y ». Wasn’t this what i showed in my example? However, I think that in the example given by Hans VdM in mkiv, there is another, more important, issue which is the way the commas are treated between the variables Q, Y, N, P, Y, Z in math italic. \setupmathematics[autopunctuation=no] Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] context does not have a parameter timeout
When using texexec I used the parameter --timeout. With context this parameter does not generate an error, but it does not have the expected result. Does context not have this parameter? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Beside blank with 1 or 2, how to do it with 1.5
Am 14.03.2011 um 12:37 schrieb Cecil Westerhof: Okay, thanks. I will use 2*big then. 1.5 * big = big + medium = \blank[big,medium] Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] What are the best fonts to use
At the moment I use for my ebook: \usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt] Does not look to bad, but layout is not my forte. So if people have tips about the fonts to use, I like to hear them. Do you use other fonts when using a printed book? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Does MKIV take more time as MKII
Am 14.03.2011 um 11:23 schrieb Cecil Westerhof: I installed the minimals and use MKIV. It seems that it is 1,5 to 2 times as slow as the MKII I used in texlive. Is this possible, Yes, MkIV is slower. or should there be something else that is responsible for this? No, for simple document with lots of text MkIV is slower but there are parts (e.g. MetaPost) where MKIV is a lot faster than MkII. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Does MKIV take more time as MKII
2011/3/14 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com I installed the minimals and use MKIV. It seems that it is 1,5 to 2 times as slow as the MKII I used in texlive. Is this possible, Yes, MkIV is slower. Okay, thanks. I also updated my system. So that was the other possibility. No, for simple document with lots of text MkIV is slower but there are parts (e.g. MetaPost) where MKIV is a lot faster than MkII. My document is mostly text. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Beside blank with 1 or 2, how to do it with 1.5
2011/3/14 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com Am 14.03.2011 um 12:37 schrieb Cecil Westerhof: Okay, thanks. I will use 2*big then. 1.5 * big = big + medium = \blank[big,medium] Works, but I did not find it satisfactory, so I am back to 2*big. But it is good to know for next time. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Simplefonts
Dear Wolfgang, Thank you very much. It works a treat! Best wishes, Charlie On 11 Mar 2011, at 18:30, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 11.03.2011 um 13:28 schrieb Charles Doherty: Dear Wolfgang, I sent an e-mail about problems with my simplefonts. I got no reply since my example had fonts that were probably not available to you. But the problem does not relate to the Gaelic fonts that I had been using. I am sending this file instead. The fonts below can be swapped about. The main font is always typeset as requested but the others are not. Am I doing something really silly? The readout from the console is below. I am using Context Minimals MarkIV on a Mac. Help would be appreciated. Fixed. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] lang-wrd.lua - howto count 1-, 2-, and 3-letter words?
Hi, I'd like to ask an early question again in a different way: I need to count every word in a document but lang-wrd.lua counts only words with 4+ letters. So I tried to set words.threshold = 4 in context/base/lang-wrd.lua to smaller values but this does not change anything. I don't know where to start looking. Also I am searching for a non-global solution without changing the core files. Thanks! Florian ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Does MKIV take more time as MKII
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote: 2011/3/14 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com I installed the minimals and use MKIV. It seems that it is 1,5 to 2 times as slow as the MKII I used in texlive. Is this possible, Yes, MkIV is slower. Okay, thanks. I also updated my system. So that was the other possibility. In my experience context --silent=\* filename speeds up compilation by a factor of 1.5 (but you loose all the logging messages) Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is Minimals ready for non-developers to use? (Tom)
Dalyoung, To the contrary, You have been most helpful. Installing the latest version of Minimals worked fine but I wonder why they even advertise that there is a stable version to be downloaded. I guess they mean a stable version of MKII. I had the same experience that you had with the Introduction not showing up in the TOC. Do you know how to report a bug? Thank you for your assistance and moral support. For awhile I thought I was going nuts. Tom Benjey 717-258-9733 voice 717-243-0074 fax blog: www.TomBenjey.com -Original Message- From: ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Jeong Dalyoung Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 5:16 AM To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Is Minimals ready for non-developers to use? (Tom) Dear Tom, I am sorry that my experience is not help for you. I am usning Mac OS X. I just downloaded first-setup.sh and run it. Then it installs minimal and makes formats well. Minimal's current version: 2011.02.25 22:03 This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.65.0-2010121316 However, I believe that Mojca's suggestion will relieve you from the install problem. Hope you succeed to install stable ConTeXt. Best regards, Dalyoung ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Does MKIV take more time as MKII
On Monday 14 March 2011 14:02:18 Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote: 2011/3/14 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com I installed the minimals and use MKIV. It seems that it is 1,5 to 2 times as slow as the MKII I used in texlive. Is this possible, Yes, MkIV is slower. Okay, thanks. I also updated my system. So that was the other possibility. In my experience context --silent=\* filename speeds up compilation by a factor of 1.5 (but you loose all the logging messages) or context --batch filename ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Does MKIV take more time as MKII
2011/3/14 Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr On Monday 14 March 2011 14:02:18 Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote: 2011/3/14 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com I installed the minimals and use MKIV. It seems that it is 1,5 to 2 times as slow as the MKII I used in texlive. Is this possible, Yes, MkIV is slower. context --silent=\* filename speeds up compilation by a factor of 1.5 (but you loose all the logging messages) or context --batch filename Both did not work for me. But removing --purgeall from my script reduced the time from 30 seconds to 10. And because I generate (at the moment) 5 personalised versions, this is a difference from 2:44 to 0:56. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
2011/3/12 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out: 5) how to better promote context to new/latex users? I think is needed a installation guide for non-technical. A guide not only for programmers but a simple guide for dummies. Like me, I am no-developer, I write law books. Latex installation and update is very simple for beginners. On Windows with MiKTeX, everyone can write very soon his first document. Not so with ConTeXt, except old stand-alone installation. It's cause of frustration and after several attempts they give up. Then they return to LaTeX (like me too). ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is Minimals ready for non-developers to use?
Dear Tom, good to hear that minimal is working fine. I had the same experience that you had with the Introduction not showing up in the TOC. Do you know how to report a bug? I think that completecontent doesn't recognize the user defined intro. It is all what I can tell you. If you have no special reason to define \intro, you may use \chapter to make it appear in TOC. This mailing list is a place to report a bug. If it is a real bug, then Hans will correct it, otherwise many experts who are watching mails suggest you a good solution. Thanks, Best regards, Dalyoung ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] math spacing
Hi Wolfgang,On 14 mars 2011, at 12:39, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:[…]Wasn’t this what i showed in my example?Yes indeed your examples showed exactly this: sorry for not mentioning your point.[…]\setupmathematics[autopunctuation=no]Unfortunately this does not help at all, at least on my installation of ConTeXt.It seems to me that the effect of the above command is to modify the spacing between characters and punctuation marks, but still the latter are misplaced with LM math fonts (with \bf or \rm there is no problem).Best regards: OKPS: here is the source which produces the attached PDF:\starttext\startbuffer[MathSpacing]Example with mkiv:With \type{\tfd}:$\tfd Q, Y, N, P, Y, Z, \quad PYR$\blank[big]With \type{\bf}$\bf Q, Y, N, P, Y, Z, \quad PYR$\blank[big]With normal LM math fonts:$Q,Y,N,P,Y,Z, \quad PYR$\stopbuffer\getbuffer[MathSpacing]\blank\thinrule\blankNow with \type{\setupmathematics[autopunctuation=no]}\setupmathematics[autopunctuation=no]\getbuffer[MathSpacing]\stoptext
math-spacing.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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[NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
Hi, in December we had 4000 pages limit, now I only reach 700 pages limit: pagesflushing realpage 615, userpage 619 pagesflushing realpage 616, userpage 620 PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space)) mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1 It's a book wih 7 chapters, each of it run fine. Only typesetting the entire project (not even with TOC) gives this error. Is there help? Steffen (ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
On 03/14/2011 05:08 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Hi,
in December we had 4000 pages limit, now I only reach 700 pages limit:
pages flushing realpage 615, userpage 619
pages flushing realpage 616, userpage 620
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack
space))
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
It's a book wih 7 chapters, each of it run fine. Only typesetting the entire
project (not even with TOC) gives this error.
Is there help?
That is clearly a bug somewhere, but it needs a minimal demonstration
file from you. A simple
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
does not trigger it.
Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
Am 14.03.2011 um 17:22 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
On 03/14/2011 05:08 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Hi,
in December we had 4000 pages limit, now I only reach 700 pages limit:
pages flushing realpage 615, userpage 619
pages flushing realpage 616, userpage 620
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack
space))
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
It's a book wih 7 chapters, each of it run fine. Only typesetting the entire
project (not even with TOC) gives this error.
Is there help?
That is clearly a bug somewhere, but it needs a minimal demonstration
file from you. A simple
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
does not trigger it.
My context-minimal *does* trigger the PANIC with 5000 Knuth-pages!
Do I need to change the LuaTeX part of the minimal installation?
ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.65.0-2010121316
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:
On 03/14/2011 05:08 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Hi,
in December we had 4000 pages limit, now I only reach 700 pages limit:
pages flushing realpage 615, userpage 619
pages flushing realpage 616, userpage 620
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack
space))
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
It's a book wih 7 chapters, each of it run fine. Only typesetting the
entire project (not even with TOC) gives this error.
Is there help?
That is clearly a bug somewhere, but it needs a minimal demonstration
file from you. A simple
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
does not trigger it.
Best wishes,
Taco
Not here:
\starttext
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
\stoptext
pagesflushing realpage 3987, userpage 3987
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of
stack space))
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
with latest minimals.
--
luigi
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[NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand that you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Does MKIV take more time as MKII
On 2011-03-14 11:23:55, Cecil Westerhof wrote: I installed the minimals and use MKIV. It seems that it is 1,5 to 2 times as slow as the MKII I used in texlive. Is this possible, or should there be something else that is responsible for this? Hi Cecil, regarding luatex/mkiv performance there are some comparisons between different tex machines that Hans presented at tug 2009: http://river-valley.tv/the-luatex-project-halfway-to-version-1/ Of course, with respect to the rapid development these might be out of date by now. Best regards, Philipp -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ pgpct7wJPsikk.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote: When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand that you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? MKII can be used either with pdftex or xetex (as you wish, compare advantages/disadvantages). MKIV can only be used with luatex. You have to differ between ConTeXt »versions« (mkii, mkiv) and TeX backends (pdftex, xetex, luatex). Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
2011/3/14 Marco net...@lavabit.com On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote: When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand that you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? MKII can be used either with pdftex or xetex (as you wish, compare advantages/disadvantages). MKIV can only be used with luatex. You have to differ between ConTeXt »versions« (mkii, mkiv) and TeX backends (pdftex, xetex, luatex). And where do I find the advantages/disadvantages? Or can I just always use MKIV? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/14 Marco net...@lavabit.com On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote: When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand that you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? MKII can be used either with pdftex or xetex (as you wish, compare advantages/disadvantages). MKIV can only be used with luatex. You have to differ between ConTeXt »versions« (mkii, mkiv) and TeX backends (pdftex, xetex, luatex). And where do I find the advantages/disadvantages? Wikipedia, google, information source of your slightest distrust. Short and incomplete: pdftex: + protrusion, font expansion - fonts are a nightmare xetex: + system fonts are easily accessible - no protrusion, no font expansion luatex: + protrusion, font expansion, easy access of system fonts, scripting language included, fast with mplib - in general much slower Or can I just always use MKIV? Yes, you can. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 18:02, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:
On 03/14/2011 05:08 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Hi,
in December we had 4000 pages limit, now I only reach 700 pages limit:
pages flushing realpage 615, userpage 619
pages flushing realpage 616, userpage 620
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack
space))
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
It's a book wih 7 chapters, each of it run fine. Only typesetting the
entire project (not even with TOC) gives this error.
Is there help?
That is clearly a bug somewhere, but it needs a minimal demonstration
file from you. A simple
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
does not trigger it.
Best wishes,
Taco
Not here:
\starttext
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
\stoptext
pages flushing realpage 3987, userpage 3987
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of
stack space))
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
with latest minimals.
I have exactely same error as you on Linux x86_64 CentOS , luatex
beta-0.65.0-2010121316
However on my Windows XP (always with Minimals distro) I can compile
without error. On Windows I have :
E:\User\xxx\texluatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.66.0-2011021923 (Web2C 2010) (rev 4086)
Maybe luatex of Linux 64bit is out-of-date ?
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Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On 14-3-2011 7:26, Cecil Westerhof wrote: 2011/3/14 Marconet...@lavabit.com On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhofcldwester...@gmail.com wrote: When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand that you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? MKII can be used either with pdftex or xetex (as you wish, compare advantages/disadvantages). MKIV can only be used with luatex. You have to differ between ConTeXt »versions« (mkii, mkiv) and TeX backends (pdftex, xetex, luatex). And where do I find the advantages/disadvantages? Or can I just always use MKIV? As already mentioned speed depends on the kind of document. In general context runs slower with xetex and luatex if only because these are unicode engines while pdftex is 8 bit. Occasionally i do speed tests and it also depends on the operating system, file caching etc. For luatex the size of the cpu cache also matters. Although pdftex/mkiv is always faster unless on eused metapoist in which case mkiv is a clear winner (the metafun manual runs in tens of seconds in mkiv but takes many minutes in mkii. Comparing xetex/mkii and luatex/mkiv is difficult as xetex also pipes its output to a dvi backend. On some tests mkiv is faster, on some others mkii but I must admit that i only tested simple document. On a raw simple document, pdftex can be twice as fast as xetex or luatex. The more lua driven features are used, the slower mkiv becomes but in general it does a better job then. Anyhow .. only luatex/mkiv will evolve so best stick to that. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is Minimals ready for non-developers to use? (Tom)
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 14:22, Tom wrote: Dalyoung, To the contrary, You have been most helpful. Installing the latest version of Minimals worked fine but I wonder why they even advertise that there is a stable version to be downloaded. When minimals were created, a new stable version was released approximately once a week. It used to be a problem to get the beta version working since beta often depended on a new version of luatex (which was also released every two/three weeks, but often not synchronized with ConTeXt releases). Now Hans only releases a stable version twice a year or so. The problem is that minimals have not been designed with that in mind and there is only a single version of texmfcnf.lua and only a single version of luatex binary. Consequently minimals can only work either with beta or with current when the two versions diverge, but not with both and beta has priority. I need to change the way the distribution works entirely, from the grounds up (I have many parts ready, but not ready to publish yet). An easy solution would be to create another mirror and only provide a working current version there. I guess they mean a stable version of MKII. I had the same experience that you had with the Introduction not showing up in the TOC. Do you know how to report a bug? You don't need to report it. I'm aware of that flaw. I could do a temporary fix, but I would prefer to fix it properly. I'm sorry that it alredy took me several years to address those issues, but I promise to fix it before the conference. Properly. You also need to keep in mind that even though it is advertized as stable, bugs won't be fixed (many project often have at least two branches of development - one for fixing the released version and one for real development; the released version should get bugfixes, but in context development that doesn't and won't happen unless some volunteer starts carefully checking the new code and only applies bugfixes to the stable version). So most people that use ConTeXt actively need bugfixes very often and the only way to get the bugs fixed is to use the latest version. Well, latest version comes with its own bugs, but at least you have a chance to get them fixed quickly. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context does not have a parameter timeout
On 14-3-2011 12:40, Cecil Westerhof wrote: When using texexec I used the parameter --timeout. With context this parameter does not generate an error, but it does not have the expected result. Does context not have this parameter? no - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] lang-wrd.lua - howto count 1-, 2-, and 3-letter words?
So I tried to set words.threshold = 4 in context/base/lang-wrd.lua to
smaller values but this does not change anything.
You have to regenerate the formats too, after you changed the value.
Otherwise you could use directly in your document:
\ctxlua{languages.words.threshold=1}
Adam
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Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 19:44, Marco wrote: On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof wrote: 2011/3/14 Marco wrote: On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof wrote: When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand that you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? They are mostly relicts of the past which still happen to be supported. (But if ConTeXt was written from scratch, there would probably be no support for them.) I often write mathematical-oriented papers that need zero tweaking with OpenType fonts, complex layouts or that could benefit from lua scripting. I compile those randomly with MKII and MKIV, if nothing else to check for differences, or if there is a problem in MKIV, I can always use MKII is a fallback. MKII hardly ever changes, so it is slightly more reliable in some cases, but it is very limited in comparison to MKIV. I use XeTeX mostly when I need OpenType fonts and something in MKIV breaks. XeTeX has some advantages in out-of-the-box support for exotic scripts (which I don't use), but many of its features are not supported in ConTeXt at the high-level user interface. In general, XeTeX is the least supported engine in ConTeXt community. In contrary, for LaTeX users XeTeX is becoming the mainstream engine to use (best supported by active developers). MKII can be used either with pdftex or xetex (as you wish, compare advantages/disadvantages). MKIV can only be used with luatex. You have to differ between ConTeXt »versions« (mkii, mkiv) and TeX backends (pdftex, xetex, luatex). And where do I find the advantages/disadvantages? Wikipedia, google, information source of your slightest distrust. Short and incomplete: pdftex: + protrusion, font expansion - fonts are a nightmare (you should have put three minuses there :) + stability xetex: + system fonts are easily accessible - no protrusion, no font expansion I never tried to use them, but I thought that Han The Thanh [please add the accents] added that to XeTeX semi-recently (http://scripts.sil.org/svn-view/xetex/TRUNK/, the last comment 8 months ago: merged microtype branch to trunk). luatex: + protrusion, font expansion, easy access of system fonts, scripting language included, fast with mplib - in general much slower ... depending on whether in general includes metapost or not. A speed factor of ten (faster) is nothing unusual for luatex when many metapost graphics come into play. ++ better support Or can I just always use MKIV? Yes, you can. Definitely. You don't need to bother, just stick to MKIV as long as it works fine for you. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Does MKIV take more time as MKII
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 14:47, Cecil Westerhof wrote: Both did not work for me. But removing --purgeall from my script reduced the time from 30 seconds to 10. When you don't use --purgeall, ConTeXt calculates different things (for example table of contents, cross-references etc.) and stores them to temporary files. Next time when you compile the same document without too many changes it simply reuses the old data. But if you remove the temporary files with --purgeall, ConTeXt has to recalculate everything from scratch. Out of curiosity I checked that on my own document and realized exactly the same thing. Compile time dropped from 27 to 9 seconds, but only because ConTeXt had to read and typeset the document three times (I thought it usually did it twice). If you remove all the temporary files and call context without --purgeall, it will also take 30 seconds to typeset everything; it is only the second and all the subsequent runs that finish the job faster. Mojca PS: You would get the same kind of behaviour in MKII (however if MKII only runs twice and if there is a speed factor of 1.5, you could declare MKII being three times faster which does make some difference when compilation time is long). PPS (not to be taken (too) seriously): But I wouldn't be surprized if, say, two years from now you would try to repeat the experiment just to find out that MKIV became faster. (Unlikely to happen, but imaging Taco coming to idea to use all the four processor cores of your new machine and Hans reducing the number of required runs from three to two plus some extra optimizations.) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] BASH script for installing minimals
Installing minimals is sometimes a problem. Because of this I wrote a BASH
script to automate it. Attached is the script I wrote to easily install the
minimals.
It installs in ${HOME}/ConTeXt but because I work with DRY it is easily
changed.
It generate almost no output:
20:47:01: fetch script
20:47:02: first setup
20:53:23: generate MKII
20:54:07: generate XeTeX
20:54:49: generate MKIV
20:55:18: Installing/updating ConTeXt took 497 seconds
20:55:18: before using ConTeXt you have to run: '.
/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/setuptex'
But the output can be found in ${HOME}/ConTeXt/install.log if needed.
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updateConTeXt.sh
Description: Bourne shell script
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Re: [NTG-context] BASH script for installing minimals
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 20:56, Cecil Westerhof wrote: Installing minimals is sometimes a problem. Because of this I wrote a BASH script to automate it. Attached is the script I wrote to easily install the minimals. Hmmm ... maybe we should add a --silent switch to installer. Thank for the idea. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] lang-wrd.lua - howto count 1-, 2-, and 3-letter words?
So I tried to set words.threshold = 4 in context/base/lang-wrd.lua to
smaller values but this does not change anything.
You have to regenerate the formats too, after you changed the value.
I thought I did but obviously something went wrong. Now it works...
Otherwise you could use directly in your document:
\ctxlua{languages.words.threshold=1}
Thanks, exactly what I need!
Florian
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[NTG-context] Is Minimals ready for non-developers to use? (Tom)
Thank you for explaining this, Mojca. Knowing that it will be fixed sometime before September gives me hope. In the meantime, I think I have a workaround that, although awkward, will create a correct PDF. What I will do is create a PDF that is correct except for the TOC that Context generates, create a correct TOC PDF with another tool, then create a new PDF with the good pages from the original PDF and the bad TOC replaced by the good one. Is there a list of known bugs somewhere? That would eliminate a lot of frustration and your having to deal with problems that are already being handled. Is it possible for one to create a new font style? For example, if I have a need for two different sanserif fonts (Iwona and Helvetica for the sake of argument) to be used sporadically throughout a document. It would be nice to be able to do something like \ss1 to select the first one and \ss2 to select the second one. \ss to select the first one and \aa (or two other letters) to select the other. Thanks, Tom Benjey 717-258-9733 voice 717-243-0074 fax blog: www.TomBenjey.com -Original Message- From: Mojca Miklavec [mailto:mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:56 PM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Tom Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Is Minimals ready for non-developers to use? (Tom) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 14:22, Tom wrote: Dalyoung, To the contrary, You have been most helpful. Installing the latest version of Minimals worked fine but I wonder why they even advertise that there is a stable version to be downloaded. When minimals were created, a new stable version was released approximately once a week. It used to be a problem to get the beta version working since beta often depended on a new version of luatex (which was also released every two/three weeks, but often not synchronized with ConTeXt releases). Now Hans only releases a stable version twice a year or so. The problem is that minimals have not been designed with that in mind and there is only a single version of texmfcnf.lua and only a single version of luatex binary. Consequently minimals can only work either with beta or with current when the two versions diverge, but not with both and beta has priority. I need to change the way the distribution works entirely, from the grounds up (I have many parts ready, but not ready to publish yet). An easy solution would be to create another mirror and only provide a working current version there. I guess they mean a stable version of MKII. I had the same experience that you had with the Introduction not showing up in the TOC. Do you know how to report a bug? You don't need to report it. I'm aware of that flaw. I could do a temporary fix, but I would prefer to fix it properly. I'm sorry that it alredy took me several years to address those issues, but I promise to fix it before the conference. Properly. You also need to keep in mind that even though it is advertized as stable, bugs won't be fixed (many project often have at least two branches of development - one for fixing the released version and one for real development; the released version should get bugfixes, but in context development that doesn't and won't happen unless some volunteer starts carefully checking the new code and only applies bugfixes to the stable version). So most people that use ConTeXt actively need bugfixes very often and the only way to get the bugs fixed is to use the latest version. Well, latest version comes with its own bugs, but at least you have a chance to get them fixed quickly. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Minimals only a third from texlive
I removed my distributions texlive from my system. This gave back 660 MB. Installing minimals took 223 MB. But I understood that minimals is more then texlive. So why is it a lot smaller? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Minimals only a third from texlive
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 21:10, Cecil Westerhof wrote: I removed my distributions texlive from my system. This gave back 660 MB. Installing minimals took 223 MB. But I understood that minimals is more then texlive. So why is it a lot smaller? Minimals don't contain *any* latex-related stuff (in ConTeXt you cannot get rid of some plain TeX/LaTeX packages in any way), many binaries are missing, minimals don't install modules by default, ... But I still think that you can get a smaller installation than 660 MB with TeX Live if you try hard enough. On the other hand there are also some fonts that are missing in ConTeXt distribution. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
Am 14.03.2011 um 17:53 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
Am 14.03.2011 um 17:22 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
On 03/14/2011 05:08 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Hi,
in December we had 4000 pages limit, now I only reach 700 pages limit:
pages flushing realpage 615, userpage 619
pages flushing realpage 616, userpage 620
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack
space))
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
It's a book wih 7 chapters, each of it run fine. Only typesetting the
entire project (not even with TOC) gives this error.
Is there help?
That is clearly a bug somewhere, but it needs a minimal demonstration
file from you. A simple
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
does not trigger it.
My context-minimal *does* trigger the PANIC with 5000 Knuth-pages!
Do I need to change the LuaTeX part of the minimal installation?
ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.65.0-2010121316
btw, running on MacOSX (same as reported on Linux 64bit)
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] Is Minimals ready for non-developers to use? (Tom)
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 20:43, Tom wrote: Thank you for explaining this, Mojca. Knowing that it will be fixed sometime before September gives me hope. In the meantime, I think I have a workaround that, although awkward, will create a correct PDF. If you really want to get the current version working, you can try to fetch texmfcnf.lua from http://svn.contextgarden.net/minimals/texmf/web2c svn log texmfcnf.lua r948 | mojca | 2011-02-10 13:33:03 +0100 (čet, 10 feb 2011) | 1 line new version of texmfcnf.lua r846 | mojca | 2010-08-17 17:22:33 +0200 (tor, 17 avg 2010) | 1 line Hans' additions r789 | mojca | 2010-06-15 16:16:19 +0200 (tor, 15 jun 2010) | 1 line update cnf file Most probably the version r846 will do; if not then r789. Fetch the --context=current and replace your texmfcnf.lua (in tex/texmf/web2c) with this one. Maybe you will need an older version of luatex (but I doubt it; I should check the dates though). LuaTeX is available under http://svn.contextgarden.net/minimals/bin/tex Is there a list of known bugs somewhere? Known bugs in ConTeXt on in ConTeXt distribution? The general recipe for ConTeXt bugs is: if it is present in the latest version and it has not been mentioned on the mailing list for the last two days, you should not bother searching in the bug database, just report it. Tracker for ConTeXt is here: http://tracker.luatex.org/ Tracker for ConTeXt distribution is on launchpad, but it doesn't list everything that I want to fix. Is it possible for one to create a new font style? For example, if I have a need for two different sanserif fonts (Iwona and Helvetica for the sake of argument) to be used sporadically throughout a document. It would be nice to be able to do something like \ss1 to select the first one and \ss2 to select the second one. \ss to select the first one and \aa (or two other letters) to select the other. It is. You could use the same switch as \hw or \cg (handwriting, calligraphy) but you could define a new style (your own keyword). I don't know the syntax by heart though, so I let the others help you (I should be in doing-something-else-than-reading-emails mode until Friday at least). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Does MKIV take more time as MKII
You can't have it Good, Cheap, and Fast all at once ;) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 14:47, Cecil Westerhof wrote: Both did not work for me. But removing --purgeall from my script reduced the time from 30 seconds to 10. When you don't use --purgeall, ConTeXt calculates different things (for example table of contents, cross-references etc.) and stores them to temporary files. Next time when you compile the same document without too many changes it simply reuses the old data. But if you remove the temporary files with --purgeall, ConTeXt has to recalculate everything from scratch. Out of curiosity I checked that on my own document and realized exactly the same thing. Compile time dropped from 27 to 9 seconds, but only because ConTeXt had to read and typeset the document three times (I thought it usually did it twice). If you remove all the temporary files and call context without --purgeall, it will also take 30 seconds to typeset everything; it is only the second and all the subsequent runs that finish the job faster. Mojca PS: You would get the same kind of behaviour in MKII (however if MKII only runs twice and if there is a speed factor of 1.5, you could declare MKII being three times faster which does make some difference when compilation time is long). PPS (not to be taken (too) seriously): But I wouldn't be surprized if, say, two years from now you would try to repeat the experiment just to find out that MKIV became faster. (Unlikely to happen, but imaging Taco coming to idea to use all the four processor cores of your new machine and Hans reducing the number of required runs from three to two plus some extra optimizations.) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 08:46, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Mojca, this does not need much more initial work than fixing the wiki pages, right? Except that wiki pages are in a really horrible shape when it comes to Installation pages. I bet that 90% of pages are outdated with wrong information about how to break TeX Live 2009 with the latest ConTeXt MKIV version, how to break MikTeX 2.7 by creating a couple of .bat files to run the latest ConTeXt, how to install on SuSE from 2007, etc. I'm just not sure what and where to start fixing anything unless I create a full list of outdated pages, create a full backup, delete everything and write everything from scratch. If anyone has the slightest idea where to start, please do it. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] BASH script for installing minimals
2011/3/14 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com
Installing minimals is sometimes a problem. Because of this I wrote a BASH
script to automate it. Attached is the script I wrote to easily install the
minimals.
It installs in ${HOME}/ConTeXt but because I work with DRY it is easily
changed.
It generate almost no output:
20:47:01: fetch script
20:47:02: first setup
20:53:23: generate MKII
20:54:07: generate XeTeX
20:54:49: generate MKIV
20:55:18: Installing/updating ConTeXt took 497 seconds
20:55:18: before using ConTeXt you have to run: '.
/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/setuptex'
But the output can be found in ${HOME}/ConTeXt/install.log if needed.
The last line of the script should read:
giveMessage before using ConTeXt you have to run: '${ACTIVATE_CONTEXT}
~/ConTeXt/tex'
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Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
2011/3/14 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com
wrote:Not here:
\starttext
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
\stoptext
pagesflushing realpage 3987, userpage 3987
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of
stack space))
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
with latest minimals.
Same here on Linux, 32-bit.
Regards,
Vedran Miletić
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Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
2011/3/14 Vedran Miletić riva...@gmail.com
2011/3/14 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com
wrote:Not here:
\starttext
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
\stoptext
pagesflushing realpage 3987, userpage 3987
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of
stack space))
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
with latest minimals.
Same here on Linux, 32-bit.
Same here, also Linux 32-bit.
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[NTG-context] + in file names
Consider two .tex files located at http://www.inf.uniri.hr/~vmiletic/art-pre/ with same content: context --mode=article art-pre.tex works right, context --mode=article art+pre.tex fails with ! Undefined control sequence. system tex error on line 7 in file art+pre.tex: Undefined control sequence ... Should + not be used? It seems to work ok without modes, but I haven't tested deeply. Regards, Vedran Miletić ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 15:26, Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: Except that wiki pages are in a really horrible shape when it comes to Installation pages. [...] If anyone has the slightest idea where to start, please do it. FWIW, I updated the Ubuntu pages last week. The OS X pages don't seem to be out of date. mathew ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
2011/3/14 Vedran Miletić riva...@gmail.com: Same here on Linux, 32-bit. Also here. [...] (/usr/local/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.tex) pagesflushing realpage 3987, userpage 3987 PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space)) mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1 $ context --version mtx-context | main context file: /usr/local/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.mkiv mtx-context | current version: 2011.02.25 22:03 $ luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.65.0-2010121316 Linux w510 2.6.32-23-generic-pae #37-Ubuntu SMP i686 GNU/Linux [...] mathew ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
Am 14.03.2011 um 18:02 schrieb luigi scarso:
\starttext
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
\stoptext
A little bit faster but with the same error message:
\count0=0
\loop\ifnum\count05000
\advance\count0 by 1
\shipout\vbox{}
\repeat
\end
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
Am 14.03.2011 um 19:51 schrieb Vnpenguin:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 18:02, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:
On 03/14/2011 05:08 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Hi,
in December we had 4000 pages limit, now I only reach 700 pages limit:
pages flushing realpage 615, userpage 619
pages flushing realpage 616, userpage 620
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack
space))
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
It's a book wih 7 chapters, each of it run fine. Only typesetting the
entire project (not even with TOC) gives this error.
Is there help?
That is clearly a bug somewhere, but it needs a minimal demonstration
file from you. A simple
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
does not trigger it.
Best wishes,
Taco
Not here:
\starttext
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
\stoptext
pagesflushing realpage 3987, userpage 3987
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of
stack space))
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
with latest minimals.
I have exactely same error as you on Linux x86_64 CentOS , luatex
beta-0.65.0-2010121316
However on my Windows XP (always with Minimals distro) I can compile
without error. On Windows I have :
E:\User\xxx\texluatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.66.0-2011021923 (Web2C 2010) (rev 4086)
By manually updating luatex (on Mac) we got more pages (722 now!),
but when adding the TOC there is PANIC:
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.66.0-2011031421 (rev 4090)
\write18 enabled.
ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV
...
pagesflushing realpage 645, userpage 649
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack
space))
...
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On 2011-03-14 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: xetex: + system fonts are easily accessible - no protrusion, no font expansion I never tried to use them, but I thought that Han The Thanh [please add the accents] added that to XeTeX semi-recently (http://scripts.sil.org/svn-view/xetex/TRUNK/, the last comment 8 months ago: merged microtype branch to trunk). I don't follow xetex development any more, so my information was outdated. Thanks for the correction. luatex: + protrusion, font expansion, easy access of system fonts, scripting language included, fast with mplib - in general much slower ... depending on whether in general includes metapost or not. A speed factor of ten (faster) is nothing unusual for luatex when many metapost graphics come into play. I totally agree. But Cecil mentioned in another thread: »My document is mostly text.« Even if a few mp graphics are involved luatex is still noticeably slower. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Am 14.03.2011 um 19:51 schrieb Vnpenguin:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 18:02, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:
On 03/14/2011 05:08 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
in December we had 4000 pages limit, now I only reach 700 pages
limit:
pages flushing realpage 615, userpage 619
pages flushing realpage 616, userpage 620
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack
space))
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
It's a book wih 7 chapters, each of it run fine. Only typesetting the
entire project (not even with TOC) gives this error.
Is there help?
That is clearly a bug somewhere, but it needs a minimal
demonstration file from you. A simple
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
does not trigger it.
Best wishes,
Taco
Not here:
\starttext
\dorecurse{5000} {\input knuth \page }
\stoptext
pagesflushing realpage 3987, userpage 3987
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of
stack space))
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
with latest minimals.
I have exactely same error as you on Linux x86_64 CentOS , luatex
beta-0.65.0-2010121316
However on my Windows XP (always with Minimals distro) I can compile
without error. On Windows I have :
E:\User\xxx\texluatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.66.0-2011021923 (Web2C 2010) (rev 4086)
By manually updating luatex (on Mac) we got more pages (722 now!), but
when adding the TOC there is PANIC:
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.66.0-2011031421 (rev 4090)
\write18 enabled.
ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV
...
pagesflushing realpage 645, userpage 649
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack
space))
...
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
seems it's still the bug reported last year:
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:12:56 +0100
From: Marco Pessotto melmo...@gmail.com
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?
works fine here with luatex beta-0.66.0-2011031422.
Regards, Hartmut
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[NTG-context] Ctx running once?
Hello, is there a possibility how to let Ctx run just once, not three times (as usually), keeping in mind that TOC and/or page numbers may be wrong, just to check correctness of the document? - I have a longer document with enough MP code and I'm interested often just whether there is no error in the Ctx/MP code, so in this case a successful (= the first) run of Ctx is enough for me for that moment. - So is there a switch, e.g. context.exe --err-check or context.exe --once or something like this? Best regards, Lukas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
\count0=0
\loop\ifnum\count05000
\advance\count0 by 1
\shipout\vbox{}
\repeat
\end
The same error on WinXP 32:
ConTeXt ver: 2011.01.26 11:02 MKIV fmt: 2011.1.26 int: english/english
...
pagesflushing realpage 3987, userpage 1, subpage 1
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack
space))
Lukas
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Re: [NTG-context] What are the best fonts to use
On Mon 14 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote: At the moment I use for my ebook: \usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt] Does not look to bad, but layout is not my forte. So if people have tips about the fonts to use, I like to hear them. A discussion about ‘best fonts’ might be long and entertaining, but highly subjective and probably off-topic for this list. MkIV lets you easily use any OTF font, so the selection is huge. One way to approach it is to draw up a list of requirements (matched Greek/Cyrillic, companion math fonts, small caps, etc., and of course price if you are considering non-free fonts) and narrow the range. For the ‘traditional’ TeX fonts, I find that http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/ is a good resource. Once you've narrowed your list according to objective measures, it's a matter of taste. I'd recommend reading Robert Bringhurst's /The Elements of Typographic Style/ as a good way to start thinking more deeply about these things. And there are (I am sure) other mailing lists where discussion of the best fonts would be entirely appropriate. Do you use other fonts when using a printed book? Some fonts (e.g. a lot of Microsoft ones) are specifically designed to look acceptable on a computer screen (very low-resolution compared to print), though that doesn't necessarily mean that they look bad on paper. So if you're designing for both screen and paper, screen is probably the tighter constraint. (I am still very much an amateur when it comes to typography, so please do not take this as anything like expert advice.) Hope this helps, Pont ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] + in file names
Vedran Miletić riva...@gmail.com writes: Should + not be used? It seems to work ok without modes, but I haven't tested deeply. There is now an entry in the FAQ: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/FAQ#Why_should_I_only_use_letters.2C_digits_and_hyphens_in_file.2Fpath_names.3F -- Peter ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ctx running once?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:08:11PM +0100, Procházka Lukáš wrote: Hello, is there a possibility how to let Ctx run just once, not three times (as usually), keeping in mind that TOC and/or page numbers may be wrong, just to check correctness of the document? context --once :D -- Khaled Hosny Egyptian Arab ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ctx running once?
On 2011-03-15 Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:08:11PM +0100, Procházka Lukáš wrote: Hello, is there a possibility how to let Ctx run just once, not three times (as usually), keeping in mind that TOC and/or page numbers may be wrong, just to check correctness of the document? context --once :D If you're really picky you can use \nullfont. Maybe this will save one second or two. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Playing with minimals
'texexec demo-mps.tex' works, but when trying 'context demo-mps.tex ' I
get:
inserted text ...re.mp ; fi ; ]===], false)}
\processMPgraphic ...e ;\!!es , \MPaskedfigure )}}
\egroup \placeMPgraphic
\d...
\dostartMPpage ...??mg ][#1]\processMPgraphic {#2}
\dostopfittingpage
l.21 \stopMPpage
Is that correct, or am I doing something wrong?
Also demo-xml.tex I have to process with texexec.
--
Cecil Westerhof
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Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
\starttext
\count0=0
\loop\ifnum\count05000
\advance\count0 by 1
\shipout\vbox{}
\repeat
\end
\stoptext
No problems here. Win7 Pro 32bit. PDF contains nothing but 5000 pages :B
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.66.0-2011021923 (rev 4086)
ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV fmt: 2011.3.5 int: english/english
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Re: [NTG-context] What are the best fonts to use
* Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com [2011-03-14 12:44]: At the moment I use for my ebook: \usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt] Does not look to bad, but layout is not my forte. So if people have tips about the fonts to use, I like to hear them. Do you use other fonts when using a printed book? I don't think this question can have one answer. There are many good answers, depending on the kind of book (or other printed material). 1. I think the layout of the page itself can have a great deal to do with whether a certain font looks good (e.g. amount of white space, length of lines, etc). Paying proper attention to the gross aspects of your layout, such as margins and line heights, goes a long way to improving the appearance of the whole work, and brings out the best in whichever font you choose. 2. To some extent, different fonts can suit different material (e.g. a book of poems vs a financial report, or a textbook vs a novel). For extended reading, the conventional wisdom is to choose a normal-looking font that doesn't call attention to itself too much, but obviously you also want one that is at least somewhat attractive to look at. 3. Frankly, giving people what they are already used to is often the best plan - probably more often than typographers would care to admit. In my opinion, variation for its own sake is over-rated and over-used. -- David ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
