[NTG-context] Rotating two lines in a table

2014-04-10 Thread jaheinen
There is a bug(?) with

\starttext
\bTABLE
\bTR
\bTD[orientation=90]{first line\crlf second line}\eTD
\bTD{first line\crlf second line}\eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext

The second cell is partially written over the first cell.
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Re: [NTG-context] Rotating two lines in a table

2014-04-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 10.04.2014 um 12:10 schrieb jahei...@gmx.de:

 There is a bug(?) with
 
 \starttext
 \bTABLE
 \bTR
 \bTD[orientation=90]{first line\crlf second line}\eTD
 \bTD{first line\crlf second line}\eTD
 \eTR
 \eTABLE
 \stoptext
 
 The second cell is partially written over the first cell.
 How can I say: Don't do that :-) 
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Unrelated to your problem but why do you add braces around the text in the 
cells?

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Wrong pagenumber in index

2014-04-10 Thread jaheinen
Try 1:

\starttext
\section{Hello}\index{Hello}
\page
\index{world}world
\page
\completeindex
\stoptext

Result 1:
hello 2 - must be 1!
world 2


Try 2:
\starttext
\section{Hello}\index{Hello}
some text   - putting some text here
\page
\index{world}world
\page
\completeindex
\stoptext

Result 2:
hello 1 - ok
world 2
It is ok but I didn't want to put text some text there.


Try 3:
Workaround: I put a tilde ~ instead of some text:

\starttext
\section{Hello}\index{Hello}
~  - putting the tilde here
\page
\index{world}world
\page
\completeindex
\stoptext

Result 3:
hello 1 - ok, with the tilde as a workaround
world 2

I don't like such tricks - is there a ConTeXt-way?

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Re: [NTG-context] another issue with PDF bookmarks

2014-04-10 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 04/09/2014 09:33 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Wed, 9 Apr 2014, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 
 One possibility is to add:

 \appendtoks \let\footnote \gobbleoneargument \to \everysimplifycommands

 to your style.

 Perhaps this should be added to the definition of definenote.
 
 Hmm... simplifycommands needs an overhaul:
 
From typo-del.mkiv:
 
 \appendtoks
  \def\quotation#1{#1}%
  \def\quote#1{'#1'}%
 \to \everysimplifycommands
 
 and from buff-ver.mkiv:
 
 \appendtoks
  \def\type#1{\letterbackslash\checkedstrippedcsname#1}% or maybe 
 detokenize
  \def\tex #1{\letterbackslash#1}%
 \to \everysimplifycommands
 
 
 The simplification of \type assumes that a user will always use 
 \type{\command} and gives the wrong result for \type{text} and fails for 
 \type{text\undefined}.
 
 The simplification of \quote and \quotation should not be hardcoded, but 
 rather be a part of \definedelimitedtext.
 
 Apart from notes and delimited text, are there other commands that need to 
 be simplified for bookmarks, etc?

Many thanks for your reply, Aditya.

If I don’t get it wrong, I guess all language and style commands should
be ignored. And all braces, when not explicitly invoked (such as in \{).

But this only would affect to PDF bookmarks.

Many thanks again,


Pablo
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[NTG-context] \triangledown placed too low in Palatino

2014-04-10 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
I just noticed that the gradient operator (\triangledown) ends up too
low when using Palatino:

\setupbodyfont[palatino]
\starttext
$\triangledown T$
\stoptext

It seems about 3pt too low.  Without the \setupbodyfont[palatino], the
placement is fine.

(tested with 2013.05.28 and 2014.03.27 betas)

-Sanjoy
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Re: [NTG-context] \triangledown placed too low in Palatino

2014-04-10 Thread Jannik Voges
I think you are using the wrong symbol. Or at least I would prefer \nabla as 
gradient operator.


Jannik


Am 10.04.2014 um 23:49 schrieb Sanjoy Mahajan san...@mit.edu:

 I just noticed that the gradient operator (\triangledown) ends up too
 low when using Palatino:
 
 \setupbodyfont[palatino]
 \starttext
 $\triangledown T$
 \stoptext
 
 It seems about 3pt too low.  Without the \setupbodyfont[palatino], the
 placement is fine.
 
 (tested with 2013.05.28 and 2014.03.27 betas)
 
 -Sanjoy
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Re: [NTG-context] \triangledown placed too low in Palatino

2014-04-10 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
Jannik,

You are right.  \nabla looks much nicer and is placed correctly.  (I
still think the \triangledown placement is slightly off.)

My environment files from MkII days have \def\nabla{\triangledown}, so I
never tried the true \nabla until your suggestion.

Thank you.

-Sanjoy

Jannik Voges researchj...@icloud.com writes:

 I think you are using the wrong symbol. Or at least I would prefer
 \nabla as gradient operator.


 Jannik
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Re: [NTG-context] \triangledown placed too low in Palatino

2014-04-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:


Jannik,

You are right.  \nabla looks much nicer and is placed correctly.  (I
still think the \triangledown placement is slightly off.)

My environment files from MkII days have \def\nabla{\triangledown}, so I
never tried the true \nabla until your suggestion.


In MkIV: \triangledown is mapped to 0x25BD while nabla is mapped to 
0x2207. These are different glyphs.


IIUC, the difference in placement is because \triangledown is defined as a 
mathop (and hence centered on the math-axis) while \nabla is defined as a 
mathord. Compare:


\startformula
  \nabla T
  \quad
  \triangledown T
  \quad
  \mathop{\nabla} T
\stopformula

From what I remember, I was the one who added the mappings for 
triangledown as a mathop based on, I believe, unicode-math package in 
LaTeX. I don't understand what all the triangle operators are supposed 
to do. As such, I cannot say whether the wrong placement is due to the 
wrong font metrics or the wrong mapping (mathop vs mathord) by ConTeXt.


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] \triangledown placed too low in Palatino

2014-04-10 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
 I cannot say whether the wrong placement is due to the wrong font
 metrics or the wrong mapping (mathop vs mathord) by ConTeXt.

I tried '\triangle T' (often used as the Laplacian operator, instead of
writing it out as \nabla^2).  That one comes out fine, even though
\triangledown does not.  But they seem to have similar kinds of
defintions/mappings:

From luatex-math.tex :

\def\triangle  {\Umathchar  25B3 }
\def\triangledown  {\Umathchar  200025BD }

So it must be a wrong font metric?

-Sanjoy
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Re: [NTG-context] \triangledown placed too low in Palatino

2014-04-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:


I cannot say whether the wrong placement is due to the wrong font
metrics or the wrong mapping (mathop vs mathord) by ConTeXt.


I tried '\triangle T' (often used as the Laplacian operator, instead of
writing it out as \nabla^2).  That one comes out fine, even though
\triangledown does not.  But they seem to have similar kinds of
defintions/mappings:

From luatex-math.tex :

\def\triangle  {\Umathchar  25B3 }
\def\triangledown  {\Umathchar  200025BD }

So it must be a wrong font metric?


AFAIU, ConTeXt does not use luatex-math.tex. The mappings are defined in 
char-def.lua.


triangle is defined as a mathord (like nabla) while bigtriangleup is a 
mathop (like triangledown).


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] \triangledown placed too low in Palatino

2014-04-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014, Aditya Mahajan wrote:


On Fri, 11 Apr 2014, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:


I cannot say whether the wrong placement is due to the wrong font
metrics or the wrong mapping (mathop vs mathord) by ConTeXt.


I tried '\triangle T' (often used as the Laplacian operator, instead of
writing it out as \nabla^2).  That one comes out fine, even though
\triangledown does not.  But they seem to have similar kinds of
defintions/mappings:

From luatex-math.tex :

\def\triangle  {\Umathchar  25B3 }
\def\triangledown  {\Umathchar  200025BD }

So it must be a wrong font metric?


AFAIU, ConTeXt does not use luatex-math.tex. The mappings are defined in 
char-def.lua.


triangle is defined as a mathord (like nabla) while bigtriangleup is a mathop 
(like triangledown).


Sorry, bigtriangleup is a mathbin. (As I said, I don't understand how the 
mathclass of different triangle operators is determined).


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] \triangledown placed too low in Palatino

2014-04-10 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
Instead of \triangle you should use \Delta for the laplacian (as you
should use \nabla for the gradient).

Mikael

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Sanjoy Mahajan san...@mit.edu wrote:
 I cannot say whether the wrong placement is due to the wrong font
 metrics or the wrong mapping (mathop vs mathord) by ConTeXt.

 I tried '\triangle T' (often used as the Laplacian operator, instead of
 writing it out as \nabla^2).  That one comes out fine, even though
 \triangledown does not.  But they seem to have similar kinds of
 defintions/mappings:

 From luatex-math.tex :

 \def\triangle  {\Umathchar  25B3 }
 \def\triangledown  {\Umathchar  200025BD }

 So it must be a wrong font metric?

 -Sanjoy
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