Re: [NTG-context] follow up
Am 2019-04-01 um 14:56 schrieb Hans Hagen : > We have worked furiously all day kicking-out extra code, and are pleased to > present a lean-and-mean version of luatex with your favorite ConTeXt. Same > good taste but only half the calories and a new name: luametatex and ConTeXt > LMTX. No more Mk-whatever, no more dependencies for we can now stand on our > own. Of course, good-old luatex and MkIV (as well as MkII) will continue to > coexist and be maintained. However, now you will be able to run ConTeXt lmtx > on your smart thermostat or on your refrigerator for the Internet of Things - > the dawn of a new era! I hacked into Hans’ home automation server via the SpiritInTheSky interface of my dead badger, running Vüdü Linux 6.66, and borrowed the latest omega version. I thought I got it to run, but now the badger is moonstruck and my documents are full of moon phase symbols and fnords. I wouldn’t recommend to try this early version without vaccinating your hardware first. I guess it’s just too meta. Greetlings, Hraban --- https://www.fiee.net http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX
On 4/1/2019 8:35 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 04:55:11PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: The average user will probably not notice many differences but nevertheless, when you are in for something new, you can give it a try: http://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm Fantastic! I’m pleased to report the first issue: on Mac OS Mojave (10.14.3) and the font Pagella, the letter ‘u’ isn’t displayed with Apple Preview -- we can’t see anything at all. Copypasting does work, though. This is more likely to be an issue with the font or Preview since the document is displayed correctly with Acrobat Reader, I just thought I’d report it :-) The question is why. In a pdf glyphs are referred to by index in a font so basically there should be no issue with viewing unless a viewer does something magic. If the document views ok in another viewer .. does the page print? For those curious ... there is a new pdf backend in place in lmtx. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX
On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 04:55:11PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > The average user will probably not notice many differences but nevertheless, > when you are in for something new, you can give it a try: > > http://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm Fantastic! I’m pleased to report the first issue: on Mac OS Mojave (10.14.3) and the font Pagella, the letter ‘u’ isn’t displayed with Apple Preview -- we can’t see anything at all. Copypasting does work, though. This is more likely to be an issue with the font or Preview since the document is displayed correctly with Acrobat Reader, I just thought I’d report it :-) Best, Arthur \setupbodyfont[pagella] \starttext u \stoptext issue.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [Wiki] list of editors
Ahoi! I reworked https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Text_Editors The split into "ConTeXt aware" and other editors didn’t make sense since they got mixed, editors that are Unicode-disabled we should just ignore, and the table had too many columns. If you know one of these applications better, please add the missing features. Additional features that *I* look for in an editor are e.g. project management (at least a directory tree view) and git client. But maybe that’s out of focus for that table. Greetlings, Hraban --- https://www.fiee.net http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX
On 4/1/2019 5:36 PM, Joseph Wright wrote: On 01/04/2019 15:55, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi all, After more than a decade of mkiv and luatex it's time to move on to a new stage. After all, nowadays a ten-year old program is considered to be really old, especially for those who consider a manual typeset three years ago as an indication of lack of progress. Therefore: welcome to lua(meta)tex 2.00 and context lmtx, the follow up on luatex and mkiv, if you dare. It has many deep-down changes but aims to be a simple evolution. The average user will probably not notice many differences but nevertheless, when you are in for something new, you can give it a try: http://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm Of course you should keep your current installation too. We're sure that there will be issues so when you run into unexpected surprises, you can blame us (and fall-back on the current Context beta and luatex). Of course with the proper mwe's (tex, metapost, lua, or a combination of these) we will try to solve them all, we have been testing. In due time more about this project will be revealed. Hans Hagen & Alan Braslau Hi Hans, Thanks for the link to the code. A quick install suggests that a 'hello world' is working nicely from ConTeXt. However, if I try what you might expect from me luametatex --ini latex.ltx things go a bit wrong: This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.00.0 (INITEX) ! error: (system): missing find_write_file callback (I also notice there is no plain-like format for testing, or at least that just "luametatex" yields an error.) i might cook up something plain but it has a very low priority, after all, plain works with luatex Clearly things work for ConTeXt, so there must be some early Lua magic or similar required. Any thoughts? (I don't get a .log or any other output.) it's a stripped down "lean and mean" engine so it's very unlikely to work with plain and latex or other macro packages out of the box a manual will come available around the context meeting, articles will be published the coming months and reveal a bit more (all this involved over half a year of development and exploration, which itself is documented which will also surface around the ctx meeting or when i feel the need) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX
On 01/04/2019 15:55, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi all, After more than a decade of mkiv and luatex it's time to move on to a new stage. After all, nowadays a ten-year old program is considered to be really old, especially for those who consider a manual typeset three years ago as an indication of lack of progress. Therefore: welcome to lua(meta)tex 2.00 and context lmtx, the follow up on luatex and mkiv, if you dare. It has many deep-down changes but aims to be a simple evolution. The average user will probably not notice many differences but nevertheless, when you are in for something new, you can give it a try: http://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm Of course you should keep your current installation too. We're sure that there will be issues so when you run into unexpected surprises, you can blame us (and fall-back on the current Context beta and luatex). Of course with the proper mwe's (tex, metapost, lua, or a combination of these) we will try to solve them all, we have been testing. In due time more about this project will be revealed. Hans Hagen & Alan Braslau Hi Hans, Thanks for the link to the code. A quick install suggests that a 'hello world' is working nicely from ConTeXt. However, if I try what you might expect from me luametatex --ini latex.ltx things go a bit wrong: This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.00.0 (INITEX) ! error: (system): missing find_write_file callback (I also notice there is no plain-like format for testing, or at least that just "luametatex" yields an error.) Clearly things work for ConTeXt, so there must be some early Lua magic or similar required. Any thoughts? (I don't get a .log or any other output.) Joseph ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX
Hi all, After more than a decade of mkiv and luatex it's time to move on to a new stage. After all, nowadays a ten-year old program is considered to be really old, especially for those who consider a manual typeset three years ago as an indication of lack of progress. Therefore: welcome to lua(meta)tex 2.00 and context lmtx, the follow up on luatex and mkiv, if you dare. It has many deep-down changes but aims to be a simple evolution. The average user will probably not notice many differences but nevertheless, when you are in for something new, you can give it a try: http://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm Of course you should keep your current installation too. We're sure that there will be issues so when you run into unexpected surprises, you can blame us (and fall-back on the current Context beta and luatex). Of course with the proper mwe's (tex, metapost, lua, or a combination of these) we will try to solve them all, we have been testing. In due time more about this project will be revealed. Hans Hagen & Alan Braslau - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] follow up
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 15:19, Floris van Manen wrote: > > H. > > > We have worked furiously all day kicking-out extra code, and are pleased to > > present a lean-and-mean version of luatex with your favorite ConTeXt. Same > > good taste but only half the calories and a new name: luametatex and > > ConTeXt LMTX. No more Mk-whatever, no more dependencies for we can now > > stand on our own. Of course, good-old luatex and MkIV (as well as MkII) > > will continue to coexist and be maintained. However, now you will be able > > to run ConTeXt lmtx on your smart thermostat or on your refrigerator for > > the Internet of Things - the dawn of a new era! > > That sound like a very good thing indeed ! > Is it available for download already? I would have already published the link on the server in Slovenia, but it seems that there was a bug on the thermostat in the server room (I was apparently too exhausted yesterday to properly test before I fell in bed) which lead to some hardware failures. You'll probably need to wait for another server to be set up. I hope the delay won't be too long. (I'm really sorry for the inconvenience.) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] follow up
H. > We have worked furiously all day kicking-out extra code, and are pleased to > present a lean-and-mean version of luatex with your favorite ConTeXt. Same > good taste but only half the calories and a new name: luametatex and ConTeXt > LMTX. No more Mk-whatever, no more dependencies for we can now stand on our > own. Of course, good-old luatex and MkIV (as well as MkII) will continue to > coexist and be maintained. However, now you will be able to run ConTeXt lmtx > on your smart thermostat or on your refrigerator for the Internet of Things - > the dawn of a new era! That sound like a very good thing indeed ! Is it available for download already? .F signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] announcement
Thanks for the announcement, but is it April Fool's Day 2.0? > On 1 Apr 2019, at 08:34, Hans Hagen wrote: > > Hi, > > Nearly 20 years into the new millennium, we have decided to freeze the > development of ConTeXt MkIV as well as luatex and are undertaking today a new > project. A core team will as of today be working on the next version: luatex > 2.0, a streamlined flavor of your favorite tool. Stay tuned for further > information. > > Hans & Alan > > > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] follow up
Hi, We have worked furiously all day kicking-out extra code, and are pleased to present a lean-and-mean version of luatex with your favorite ConTeXt. Same good taste but only half the calories and a new name: luametatex and ConTeXt LMTX. No more Mk-whatever, no more dependencies for we can now stand on our own. Of course, good-old luatex and MkIV (as well as MkII) will continue to coexist and be maintained. However, now you will be able to run ConTeXt lmtx on your smart thermostat or on your refrigerator for the Internet of Things - the dawn of a new era! Stay tuned, Alan and Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] announcement
Hi, Nearly 20 years into the new millennium, we have decided to freeze the development of ConTeXt MkIV as well as luatex and are undertaking today a new project. A core team will as of today be working on the next version: luatex 2.0, a streamlined flavor of your favorite tool. Stay tuned for further information. Hans & Alan - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
