Re: [NTG-context] Tabulate: Change cell orienation for individual cells?
> On 27 Jun 2023, at 09:56, Denis Maier via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> is it possible to override the defined orienatation for a given cell ?
\starttext
\starttabulate[|l|c|r|]
\NC this and that \NC left and right \NC here and there \NC \NR
\NC such and so \NC \rotate[rotation=90]{up and down} \NC on and on \NC \NR
\stoptabulate
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] how to install on M2 Mac?
Am 27.06.23 um 22:02 schrieb Hans van der Meer via ntg-context: After transferring the context directory to my new M2 Mac Studio sh.install.sh complains "Your system "Darwin arm64" is not supported (yet)". What now? I cannot live without TeX-ing 沈 You just copied the binaries from another computer? That doesn’t work. Download the arm64 binaries from https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation, i.e. https://lmtx.pragma-ade.com/install-lmtx/context-osx-arm64.zip Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] how to install on M2 Mac?
After transferring the context directory to my new M2 Mac Studio sh.install.sh complains "Your system "Darwin arm64" is not supported (yet)". What now? I cannot live without TeX-ing 沈 yours sincerely dr. Hans van der Meer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] expansion of section title
Am 27.06.23 um 21:01 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context:
Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context schrieb am 27.06.2023 um 20:55:
\defineregister[todos]
% add a "todos" index entry with the current section title
\define[1]\TODO{\todos{\structurevariable{title}}}
\chapter{Something}
\TODO{This is still empty!}
% at the end of the book
\chapter{work list}
\placetodos
\define[1]\TODO{\expanded{\todos{\structurevariable{title
Thank you, that works.
I thought I tried that, but probably forgot the braces.
What is the purpose of the argument for \TODO when you don't use it?
I simplified too much, the actual definition is (now):
\define[1]\TODO{\inouter{\tt\color[ColTodo]{TODO}}\expanded{\todos{\structurevariable{title}}}\color[ColTodo]{\bf
#1}\autoinsertnextspace}
Hraban
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[NTG-context] Problem with bibliography in apa
Dear List,
I am using ConTeXt with TeXlive 2023. This problem did not exist in TeXlive
2022. Also, I tried to use ConTeXt by installing it from the ConTeXt page and
had the same problem.
When I use the apa format in the bibliography, the text "internal(number)"
appears at the beginning of each citation:
For example:
---
A Chapter
A text (Anonymous, 2023). And (Unknown, 2022).
Bibliography
internal(1)Anonymous, A. (2023).Any book.Publisher Unknown.
internal(2)Unknown, A. (2022).An untitled book.Publisher Non-existent.
--
The source code is:
\usebtxdataset[biblio.bib]
\usebtxdefinitions[apa]
\starttext
\startchapter[title={A Chapter}]
A text \cite[book1]. And \cite[book2]
\stopchapter
\startchapter[title=Bibliography]
\placelistofpublications
\stopchapter
\stoptext
---
The bibliographic database is:
@book{book1,
author={Author Anonymous},
title={An untitled book},
year=2023,
publisher={Publisher Unknown},
}
@book{book2,
author={Author Unknown},
title={An untitled book},
year=2022,
publisher={Publisher Non-existent},}
Best regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] expansion of section title
Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context schrieb am 27.06.2023 um 20:55:
\defineregister[todos]
% add a "todos" index entry with the current section title
\define[1]\TODO{\todos{\structurevariable{title}}}
\chapter{Something}
\TODO{This is still empty!}
% at the end of the book
\chapter{work list}
\placetodos
\define[1]\TODO{\expanded{\todos{\structurevariable{title
What is the purpose of the argument for \TODO when you don't use it?
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] expansion of section title
I think I had a good idea how to keep an overview of the “todos” in my
book project:
\defineregister[todos]
% add a "todos" index entry with the current section title
\define[1]\TODO{\todos{\structurevariable{title}}}
\chapter{Something}
\TODO{This is still empty!}
% at the end of the book
\chapter{work list}
\placetodos
But the section title is always "work list" in the "todos" index.
I guess I need some expansion and tried \expanded, \safeexpanded,
\expandoneargafter, \fullexpandoneargafter, but probably not in the
right place.
How does this work?
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] Tabulate: Change cell orienation for individual cells?
Ok, if you use p for the column definition you can just use \setupalign on
individual cells...
%%%
\starttext
\starttabulate[|pA{verytolerant,extremestretch}|pA{verytolerant,extremestretch}|]
\NC Heading flushleft \NC \setupalign[flushright] Heading flushright \NC \NR
\NC \input ward \NC \input ward \NC \NR
\stoptabulate
\stoptext
%%%
Best,
Denis
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Hi,
is it possible to override the defined orienatation for a given cell ?
Take this example from the wiki:
%%
\starttext
\starttabulate[|l|c|r|]
\NC this and that \NC left and right \NC here and there \NC \NR
\NC such and so \NC up and down \NC on and on \NC \NR
\stoptabulate
\stoptext
%%
How can I change the alignment for a particular cell?
Best,
Denis
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[NTG-context] Tabulate: Change cell orienation for individual cells?
Hi, is it possible to override the defined orienatation for a given cell ? Take this example from the wiki: %% \starttext \starttabulate[|l|c|r|] \NC this and that \NC left and right \NC here and there \NC \NR \NC such and so \NC up and down \NC on and on \NC \NR \stoptabulate \stoptext %% How can I change the alignment for a particular cell? Best, Denis ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken
thanks a lot for the overleaf hack Aditya, i once tried to configure
something similar but it did not work!
and thanks for the latexcgi link, it has much more speed in processing,
though that is not important for me (i am learning the basics in my spare
time, so a couple of seconds more or less is ok).
On a quick search i found a lot of Zdeněk Svoboda, but i will try to find
the one of the project and ask him to offer it to the community, I found
context-on-web simple and effective, it even hat a table-generator for easy
things.
El lun, 26 jun 2023 a las 20:39, Hans Hagen via ntg-context (<
ntg-context@ntg.nl>) escribió:
> On 6/26/2023 7:53 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context wrote:
> >
> >> indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex).
> >
> > FWIW, context works on overleaf as well!
> >
> > Simply create a `latexmkrc` file with the following content:
> >
> > ```
> > $pdflatex="context --synctex=1 --result=output %S; cp output.log
> /compile/output.log;cp output.pdf /compile/output.pdf";
> > $recorder=0;
> > $pdf_mode=1;
> I found back this link:
>
> https://davidcarlisle.github.io/latexcgi/testc
>
>
> % !TEX mtxrun --script context
>
> \starttext
>
> \dorecurse{500}{\samplefile{tufte}\par}
>
> \stoptext
>
> Runs 113 pages in 1.13 sec so quite ok for a remote un I guess.
>
> I'm not sure how up to date it is.
>
> (The default is some old tex document using pdftex.)
>
> Hans
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken
On 6/26/2023 7:53 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context wrote:
indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex).
FWIW, context works on overleaf as well!
Simply create a `latexmkrc` file with the following content:
```
$pdflatex="context --synctex=1 --result=output %S; cp output.log
/compile/output.log;cp output.pdf /compile/output.pdf";
$recorder=0;
$pdf_mode=1;
I found back this link:
https://davidcarlisle.github.io/latexcgi/testc
% !TEX mtxrun --script context
\starttext
\dorecurse{500}{\samplefile{tufte}\par}
\stoptext
Runs 113 pages in 1.13 sec so quite ok for a remote un I guess.
I'm not sure how up to date it is.
(The default is some old tex document using pdftex.)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken
On 6/26/2023 8:03 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Am 26.06.23 um 19:43 schrieb Miguel Diaz: indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex). But trying to learn the basics it is great that you can try context without an installation and configuration. unfortunately the web is no more accesible and when I heard that the maillist hat problems as result of upgrade i thought the web would be in the same server. But it seems the web is not of Pragma but of a university. Sorry for my ignorance! and thanks anyway Well, it’s not by the university, but the master(?) thesis of one student. He never published the source code, and apparently he stopped hosting it at all. i suppose that it runs on a university machine Unfortunately silent disappearance is a common fate of the really interesting ConTeXt and MetaPost projects from Brno. probably true for many projects by students who eventually move on; but if we can pick up on it ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken
On 6/26/2023 7:43 PM, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context wrote: indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex). But trying to learn the basics it is great that you can try context without an installation and configuration. unfortunately the web is no more accesible and when I heard that the maillist hat problems as result of upgrade i thought the web would be in the same server. But it seems the web is not of Pragma but of a university. Sorry for my ignorance! We have to wait what Tomas will say. I think the idea was to put the code on github so that one can install locally or anywhere. (It should be trivial to set up a vm). It runs the latest lmtx and I tested it a bit and performance was pretty good (such a service makes no sense if it doesn't run close to local speed). My collegue tested it with huge collections of xml files that also worked ok. Let's hope for the best, Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken
Am 26.06.23 um 19:43 schrieb Miguel Diaz: indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex). But trying to learn the basics it is great that you can try context without an installation and configuration. unfortunately the web is no more accesible and when I heard that the maillist hat problems as result of upgrade i thought the web would be in the same server. But it seems the web is not of Pragma but of a university. Sorry for my ignorance! and thanks anyway Well, it’s not by the university, but the master(?) thesis of one student. He never published the source code, and apparently he stopped hosting it at all. Unfortunately silent disappearance is a common fate of the really interesting ConTeXt and MetaPost projects from Brno. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context wrote: > indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex). FWIW, context works on overleaf as well! Simply create a `latexmkrc` file with the following content: ``` $pdflatex="context --synctex=1 --result=output %S; cp output.log /compile/output.log;cp output.pdf /compile/output.pdf"; $recorder=0; $pdf_mode=1; ``` Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken
indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex). But trying to learn the basics it is great that you can try context without an installation and configuration. unfortunately the web is no more accesible and when I heard that the maillist hat problems as result of upgrade i thought the web would be in the same server. But it seems the web is not of Pragma but of a university. Sorry for my ignorance! and thanks anyway El lun, 26 jun 2023 a las 9:09, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context (< ntg-context@ntg.nl>) escribió: > Am 26.06.23 um 08:49 schrieb Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context: > > Dear Miguel, > > > >> On 25 Jun 2023, at 22:48, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context < > ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > >> > >> Hi everyone, > >> and sorry if this is not the right place to post. > >> > >> Context-on-web is no more accesible. > > > > What is this context-on-web? I tried searching, but context+web produces > rather useless results. > > https://context-on-web.eu > online IDE by Zdeněk Svoboda of Brno university > > > Hraban > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > > ___ > _______ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TikZ \shade broken
Fixed in the latest. Thanks Hans!
> On Jun 19, 2023, at 5:57 AM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
>
> Hi Hans,
>
>>> I am running into a problem with the \shade command...
>>> tex error > tex error on line 8 in file ./TikZtest.tex: Valid keyword
>>> expected, likely 'direction'
>>> \pgfsys@vertshading
>>> #1#2#3->{\pgf@parsefunc {#3}\pgfmathparse {#2}\setbox \pgfutil@tempboxa
>>> =\hbox dir
>>> ...
>> luametatex doesn't have the dir keyword
>>
>> (I could probably add it in a simplified form just for this purpose because
>> the performance penalty is less now.)
>
> If you have a chance to add a dir keyword, that would be great. Since the
> keyword is used inside a TikZ macro, I don’t see any way I can work around it
> in my document.
>
> I am gradually converting my diagrams from TikZ to MetaFun, but with well
> over a hundred diagrams in my current project, that’s going to take some time.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken
Am 26.06.23 um 08:49 schrieb Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context: Dear Miguel, On 25 Jun 2023, at 22:48, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context wrote: Hi everyone, and sorry if this is not the right place to post. Context-on-web is no more accesible. What is this context-on-web? I tried searching, but context+web produces rather useless results. https://context-on-web.eu online IDE by Zdeněk Svoboda of Brno university Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken
Dear Miguel, > On 25 Jun 2023, at 22:48, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > and sorry if this is not the right place to post. > > Context-on-web is no more accesible. What is this context-on-web? I tried searching, but context+web produces rather useless results. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Protect the lettrine
Thanks Hans.
I've updated the wiki. I'm wondering if there's a way to also control the
indenting? Max's solution removed any indenting, allowing the text for the
second paragraph to be flush. It looks a little strange to see text
indented next to a drop-cap. The test case is the same, but with the
addition of an indenting setup:
% SOT
\setupinitial[n=2, continue=yes]
\setupindenting[medium, yes]
\setuphead[chapter][
after={\placeinitial},
page=no,
]
\starttext
\chapter{one}
Kermit Ruffins
Meet me at the second line.
\chapter{two}
\input knuth
Meet me at the second line.
\stoptext
% EOT
This produces an unintended side-effect, as well, whereby the following
chapter heading is indented.
See https://i.ibb.co/n8cMkM9/unintended-indented.png
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[NTG-context] context-on-web broken
Hi everyone, and sorry if this is not the right place to post. Context-on-web is no more accesible. Though as a complete newbie to latex and context world I was just making a very basic format definition, i was glad i got a basic working layout. Now i cannot access the online application and I have no copy of the very simple sample file on which i would like to continue with my practice. So, will context-on-web be back? or is there a way to access my files? I can begin again, but it took me over 3 weeks to get the most basic layout! thanks in advance Miguel D. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new version
Oh, this is very interesting indeed!
Thank you
Marcus Vinicius
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 7:58 AM Hans Hagen via ntg-context
wrote:
>
> On 6/23/2023 11:54 AM, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita via ntg-context wrote:
> > Should then \setupalign[granular] be used before defining font features?
> No, it's an independent feature of the linebreak mechanism. You can run
> this and see how it kicks in
>
> \starttext
>
> \definecolor[ttest][a=1,t=.5]
> \definecolor[rtest][a=1,t=.5,r=1]
>
> \dostepwiserecurse{80}{120}{1}{
> \startTEXpage[offset=1ts]
> \startcombination[1*3]
> {\startoverlay
> {\vtop{\showmakeup[space]\hsize #1mm\ttest
> \samplefile{tufte}}}
> {\vtop{\showmakeup[space]\hsize #1mm\rtest
> \setupalign[granular]\samplefile{tufte}}}
> \stopoverlay} {}
> {\vtop{\showmakeup[space]\hsize #1mm\ttest
> \samplefile{tufte}}} {}
> {\vtop{\showmakeup[space]\hsize #1mm\rtest
> \setupalign[granular]\samplefile{tufte}}} {}
> \stopcombination
> \stopTEXpage
> }
>
> \stoptext
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] viewer layers (optional content groups, OCG)
On 6/22/23 18:07, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> On 6/19/2023 8:41 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
>> Checking viewer layers:
>>
>> * \setupviewerlayer doesn’t work; e.g. "state=stop" only works if I put
>> it in \defineviewerlayer
> in next upload
Hans,
since this is related to OCG, a minor improvement.
/Export (inside /Usage) is actually a dictionary with a single entry
(/ExportState) and values /ON and /OFF (from the PDF spec
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/adobe/dc-acrobat-sdk-docs/master/docs/standards/pdfstandards/pdf/PDF32000_2008.pdf#search=ExportState):
The attached patch fixes this issue.
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
--- lpdf-ren.lmt 2023-06-23 20:08:17.096662826 +0200
+++ mkxl/lpdf-ren.lmt 2023-06-23 20:09:05.358959481 +0200
@@ -78,8 +78,8 @@
}
local pdf_export = {
-[v_yes] = pdf_on,
-[v_no] = pdf_off,
+[v_yes] = pdfdictionary { ExportState = pdf_on },
+[v_no] = pdfdictionary { ExportState = pdf_on },
}
-- We can have references to layers before they are places, for instance from
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Re: [NTG-context] right and left arrowfill
On 6/23/2023 3:21 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
I'm not sure how you can mess up glue so that the box is no longer a box.
Boxes remain boxes.
I guess that's the same mentality behind a fixed glue in LMTX, while
trying not to mess up the box. Back to point A and the main reason of the
op's question.
I have no clue what "the same mentality behind a fixed glue in LMTX"
means here. It's not like LMTX has a mentality of its own, after all
it's not an AI (fwiw). Here we use \uleaders that have some
feedback-after-typesetting loopback. Eventually I might add some extra
callback features but only when it has no impact on performance. For now
it's experimental.
That said, I wonder how many users can predict the plainish tex result of:
\ruledhbox to 2in{\vrule \rightarrowfill \ 1cm \leftarrowfill\vrule}
\ruledhbox to 1cm{\vrule \rightarrowfill \ 1cm \leftarrowfill\vrule}
Which then makes an argument for
% \permanent\protected\def\adaptive
% {\dowithnextbox{\adaptivecheckbox\nextbox\box\nextbox}}
\adaptive\ruledhbox to 2in{\vrule \rightarrowfill \ 1cm
\leftarrowfill\vrule}
\adaptive\ruledhbox to 1cm{\vrule \rightarrowfill \ 1cm
\leftarrowfill\vrule}
doing its thing. Anyway, it is a not using "math arrows in text" that
determines the functionality but "math arrows in math" that does (and in
that respect we're driven by demands from power math users like Alan and
Mikael); so. we're more focussed on shapes and proper rendering; these
fillers in text are sort of special
Then again, the only way to resemble what TeX does is by re/defining
and copied verbatim from The TeXbook both rightarrowfill and
leftarrowfill
and hope for the best
and unlike with TeX in which an
\hbox to 1in{\vrule \rightarrowfill \ 1cm \leftarrowfill\vrule}
it says 1cm but it'd be more than that, and accurately so
Well, plain tex says:
\def\rightarrowfill{$\m@th\smash-\mkern-7mu%
\cleaders\hbox{$\mkern-2mu\smash-\mkern-2mu$}\hfill
\mkern-7mu\mathord\rightarrow$}
so, you get a smashed minus, some backtracking (a kern, not a glue),
then optional leaders, and finally an overlayed arrowhead
and you then cross your fingers that the minus sits on the same axis as
the arrowhead because this is pretty much a cmr bound definition (and
there are math fonts out there that don't fit this definition, although
we got some fixes in the meantime)
in lmtx (using luametatex) we use \Uhextensible instead which build from
an opentype extensible
(which makes me wonder: do users really expect all \macros in plain,
latex and context do to the same? i bet not because \end in latex is
definitely something else than \end in plain)
How good would \meaning be here, notwithstanding the valuable info of
the macro it provides, if it can't print out, let alone source it up,
the more accurate dimension, let alone the measurement.
I don't follow. Does this come from ChapGPT?
That's funny.
But as chatgpt says:
"Sorry about that. \meaning\rightarrowfill is
\begingroup \scratchunicode 8594\relax \adaptivebox [mathfiller][alterna
tive=8594]{\hss \strut \hss }\endgroup "
That's what lmtx returned after Hans vdM sample
Nothing wrong with that, but in the meantime that can be
\permanent\protected\def\mathfiller#1%
{\adaptivebox[mathfiller][\c!alternative=#1]{\hss\strut\hss}}
because we don't need the scratch code (was used when we played with
it), so a next version wil say:
\meaningfull\rightarrowfill
or:
frozen instance macro:\mathfiller {8594}
or more texie
\meaningasis\rightarrowfill
like:
\frozen \instance \def \rightarrowfill \mathfiller {8594}
It depends on what you expect. First of all, your assumption that the arrow
fill is the same as in plain tex is wrong.
Why would it be wrong?
because context is not plain
When I type
\hbox to 3cm{\rightarrowfill} without a vrule
that's what I would normally expect
as plain user maybe
(1) one can define an arrow fill using a leader that uses some (happen to be
present in tex math fonts) glyphs: repeated minuses followed by some magic
kern and an arrow head.
Can you apply it to pagination without breaking?
Highly doubt it.
you seem to know the plain definition so ... leaders don't break
No. I didn't mean anything by it. Just that I disagree with the
implementation. Again, I expect what TeX returns rather than what LMTX
returns.
well, using an arrow fill in running text is rare but who knows how
uleaders evolve (after users start using it)
No need to re-invent the wheel. (if there's undertone in that so be it)
if so, so use plain
And of course it's working! Everything works, right? And that's exactly what
I meant.
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] right and left arrowfill
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 01:38:23PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> On 6/23/2023 12:43 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 03:32:25PM +0200, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> > > \starttext
> > > x \rightarrowfill x
> > >
> > > x \leftarrowfill x
> > >
> > > hbox to 5cm:
> > >
> > > y\hbox to5cm{\rightarrowfill}y
> > >
> > > y\hbox to5cm{\leftarrowfill}y
> > > \stoptext
> > >
> > > But obviously not in an dimensioned \hbox, whereas Knuth's version does
> > > that too.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 22 Jun 2023, at 15:11, Hans Hagen via ntg-context
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > x \rightarrowfill x
> > > >
> > > > x \leftarrowfill x
> > >
> > > yours sincerely
> > > dr. Hans van der Meer
> > >
> > > 
> >
> > I find this interesting. I agree with Hans vdM.
> >
> > So what would be the acceptable standard given an x length of a glue?
> >
> > In the above examples, it's all preset.
> >
> > Is a rule of thumb — no pun intended here — to apply thereafter
> > a glue, in this case a \vrule that follows the box and precedes the
> > other glue? that is, the \rightarrowfill or \leftarrowfill?
> >
> > I mean. Once you get the glues messed up, the whole box crumbles.
>
> I'm not sure how you can mess up glue so that the box is no longer a box.
> Boxes remain boxes.
I guess that's the same mentality behind a fixed glue in LMTX, while
trying not to mess up the box. Back to point A and the main reason of the
op's question.
Then again, the only way to resemble what TeX does is by re/defining
and copied verbatim from The TeXbook both rightarrowfill and
leftarrowfill
and unlike with TeX in which an
\hbox to 1in{\vrule \rightarrowfill \ 1cm \leftarrowfill\vrule}
it says 1cm but it'd be more than that, and accurately so
>
> > How good would \meaning be here, notwithstanding the valuable info of
> > the macro it provides, if it can't print out, let alone source it up,
> > the more accurate dimension, let alone the measurement.
>
> I don't follow. Does this come from ChapGPT?
>
That's funny.
But as chatgpt says:
"Sorry about that. \meaning\rightarrowfill is
\begingroup \scratchunicode 8594\relax \adaptivebox [mathfiller][alterna
tive=8594]{\hss \strut \hss }\endgroup "
That's what lmtx returned after Hans vdM sample
> > So, one would need to know the preset layout of the page to have an idea
> > about it?
> >
> > Hans H. pulled the old modified trick of 'works here'.
>
> Well, when used in a paragraph it works indeed. No trick involved. But as it
> uses a specific mechanism in an hbox you need to trigger that (unless you
> want to add overhead that will kake tex crawl).
>
> > Like a magician… now all of a sudden evetything works, but unlike TeX's
>
> Not sure what this refers to. Much of TeX is magick but what is bad about
> that?
>
> > \hbox to 1in{\vrule \rightarrowfill \ 1in \leftarrowfill\vrule}
> >
> > or
> >
> > \hbox to 1cm{\vrule \rightarrowfill \ 1cm \leftarrowfill\vrule}
> >
> > which gives an accurate description, not to mention measurement,
>
> It depends on what you expect. First of all, your assumption that the arrow
> fill is the same as in plain tex is wrong.
Why would it be wrong?
When I type
\hbox to 3cm{\rightarrowfill} without a vrule
that's what I would normally expect
>
> (1) one can define an arrow fill using a leader that uses some (happen to be
> present in tex math fonts) glyphs: repeated minuses followed by some magic
> kern and an arrow head.
>
Can you apply it to pagination without breaking?
Highly doubt it.
> (2) You can hope that the magick kern is right and that the minus aligns
> with the arrows bar.
>
> (3) You also assume that the math font matches the text font.
>
> (4) Normally an arrow fill is something math anyway. Where there can also be
> something on top or below, or where it can be a top or bottom accent.
>
> > a
> >
> > \vbox to 5pt{x\vrule\rightarrowfill \ x \leftarrowfill\vrule\ x}
> >
> > or
> >
> > x \rightarrowfill x
> > x \leftarrowfill x
> >
> > or
> >
> > \vbox to 3pt{x\vrule\rightarrowfill \ \leftarrowfill\vrule\ x}
> >
> > \ \rightarrowfill \
> > \ \leftarrowfill \
> >
> >
> > in LMTX doesn't say much
> What should it say? You get a space, an arrow and a disc
Re: [NTG-context] right and left arrowfill
On 6/23/2023 12:43 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 03:32:25PM +0200, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context
wrote:
\starttext
x \rightarrowfill x
x \leftarrowfill x
hbox to 5cm:
y\hbox to5cm{\rightarrowfill}y
y\hbox to5cm{\leftarrowfill}y
\stoptext
But obviously not in an dimensioned \hbox, whereas Knuth's version does that
too.
On 22 Jun 2023, at 15:11, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
x \rightarrowfill x
x \leftarrowfill x
yours sincerely
dr. Hans van der Meer

I find this interesting. I agree with Hans vdM.
So what would be the acceptable standard given an x length of a glue?
In the above examples, it's all preset.
Is a rule of thumb — no pun intended here — to apply thereafter
a glue, in this case a \vrule that follows the box and precedes the
other glue? that is, the \rightarrowfill or \leftarrowfill?
I mean. Once you get the glues messed up, the whole box crumbles.
I'm not sure how you can mess up glue so that the box is no longer a
box. Boxes remain boxes.
How good would \meaning be here, notwithstanding the valuable info of
the macro it provides, if it can't print out, let alone source it up,
the more accurate dimension, let alone the measurement.
I don't follow. Does this come from ChapGPT?
So, one would need to know the preset layout of the page to have an idea
about it?
Hans H. pulled the old modified trick of 'works here'.
Well, when used in a paragraph it works indeed. No trick involved. But
as it uses a specific mechanism in an hbox you need to trigger that
(unless you want to add overhead that will kake tex crawl).
Like a magician… now all of a sudden evetything works, but unlike TeX's
Not sure what this refers to. Much of TeX is magick but what is bad
about that?
\hbox to 1in{\vrule \rightarrowfill \ 1in \leftarrowfill\vrule}
or
\hbox to 1cm{\vrule \rightarrowfill \ 1cm \leftarrowfill\vrule}
which gives an accurate description, not to mention measurement,
It depends on what you expect. First of all, your assumption that the
arrow fill is the same as in plain tex is wrong.
(1) one can define an arrow fill using a leader that uses some (happen
to be present in tex math fonts) glyphs: repeated minuses followed by
some magic kern and an arrow head.
(2) You can hope that the magick kern is right and that the minus aligns
with the arrows bar.
(3) You also assume that the math font matches the text font.
(4) Normally an arrow fill is something math anyway. Where there can
also be something on top or below, or where it can be a top or bottom
accent.
a
\vbox to 5pt{x\vrule\rightarrowfill \ x \leftarrowfill\vrule\ x}
or
x \rightarrowfill x
x \leftarrowfill x
or
\vbox to 3pt{x\vrule\rightarrowfill \ \leftarrowfill\vrule\ x}
\ \rightarrowfill \
\ \leftarrowfill \
in LMTX doesn't say much
What should it say? You get a space, an arrow and a discarded space.
That said: I think you miss a few points here:
(1) I know Hans vd Meer well and he knows ConTeXt well. He's quite
capable of figuring out how to use advanced features and I bet he likes
the following variant of arrows in text. Next time we meet I'll show him
some more adaptive tricks (although I bet he can figure them out himself).
\starttext
% \setupexternalfigures
% [location={default,global}]
% \startsetups adaptive:test
% \setbox\usedadaptivebox\hbox to \usedadaptivewidth yoffset
-\usedadaptivedepth \bgroup
% \externalfigure
% [cow.pdf]
% [width=\usedadaptivewidth,
%height=\dimexpr\usedadaptiveheight+\usedadaptivedepth\relax]%
%\egroup
% \stopsetups
\startsetups adaptive:test
\setbox\usedadaptivebox\hbox to \usedadaptivewidth yoffset .25ex
\bgroup
\startMPcode
drawarrow ((0,0) -- (\the\usedadaptivewidth,0)) randomized
(ExHeight/2);
\stopMPcode
\egroup
\stopsetups
\dorecurse{5}{
\dostepwiserecurse{1}{150}{1}{%
this~#1.##1 is~#1.##1 test~#1.##1
{\adaptivebox[strut=yes,setups=adaptive:test]{\strut}}
}
\blank
}
\stoptext
(2) If someone wants a plain (or fot that matter latex) solution then
one can use these macro packages or write a macro that mimicks
expectations.
(3) I don't like "Hans H. pulled the old modified trick of 'works
here'." kind of remarks because they have a rather negative undertone
and I don't know how to read that.
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] new version
On 6/23/2023 11:54 AM, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita via ntg-context wrote:
Should then \setupalign[granular] be used before defining font features?
No, it's an independent feature of the linebreak mechanism. You can run
this and see how it kicks in
\starttext
\definecolor[ttest][a=1,t=.5]
\definecolor[rtest][a=1,t=.5,r=1]
\dostepwiserecurse{80}{120}{1}{
\startTEXpage[offset=1ts]
\startcombination[1*3]
{\startoverlay
{\vtop{\showmakeup[space]\hsize #1mm\ttest
\samplefile{tufte}}}
{\vtop{\showmakeup[space]\hsize #1mm\rtest
\setupalign[granular]\samplefile{tufte}}}
\stopoverlay} {}
{\vtop{\showmakeup[space]\hsize #1mm\ttest
\samplefile{tufte}}} {}
{\vtop{\showmakeup[space]\hsize #1mm\rtest
\setupalign[granular]\samplefile{tufte}}} {}
\stopcombination
\stopTEXpage
}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] right and left arrowfill
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 03:32:25PM +0200, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context
wrote:
> \starttext
>x \rightarrowfill x
>
>x \leftarrowfill x
>
> hbox to 5cm:
>
>y\hbox to5cm{\rightarrowfill}y
>
>y\hbox to5cm{\leftarrowfill}y
> \stoptext
>
> But obviously not in an dimensioned \hbox, whereas Knuth's version does that
> too.
>
>
>
> > On 22 Jun 2023, at 15:11, Hans Hagen via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> >
> >x \rightarrowfill x
> >
> >x \leftarrowfill x
>
> yours sincerely
> dr. Hans van der Meer
>
> 
I find this interesting. I agree with Hans vdM.
So what would be the acceptable standard given an x length of a glue?
In the above examples, it's all preset.
Is a rule of thumb — no pun intended here — to apply thereafter
a glue, in this case a \vrule that follows the box and precedes the
other glue? that is, the \rightarrowfill or \leftarrowfill?
I mean. Once you get the glues messed up, the whole box crumbles.
How good would \meaning be here, notwithstanding the valuable info of
the macro it provides, if it can't print out, let alone source it up,
the more accurate dimension, let alone the measurement.
So, one would need to know the preset layout of the page to have an idea
about it?
Hans H. pulled the old modified trick of 'works here'.
Like a magician… now all of a sudden evetything works, but unlike TeX's
\hbox to 1in{\vrule \rightarrowfill \ 1in \leftarrowfill\vrule}
or
\hbox to 1cm{\vrule \rightarrowfill \ 1cm \leftarrowfill\vrule}
which gives an accurate description, not to mention measurement,
a
\vbox to 5pt{x\vrule\rightarrowfill \ x \leftarrowfill\vrule\ x}
or
x \rightarrowfill x
x \leftarrowfill x
or
\vbox to 3pt{x\vrule\rightarrowfill \ \leftarrowfill\vrule\ x}
\ \rightarrowfill \
\ \leftarrowfill \
in LMTX doesn't say much
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Re: [NTG-context] new version
Should then \setupalign[granular] be used before defining font features? On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 9:37 AM Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > > Hi, > > I uploaded a new lmtx version (so the next series will be luametatex > 2.10.10). Although Mikael and I are still in improving math mode, we > side tracked a bit to the par builder (better breaking of math etc). In > the end some experiments there turned features. > > (1) We already had a more granular par builder but that was never really > enabled. From now on you can do that with > > \setupalign[granular] > > After quite some tests and careful inspection of outcome we think that > the results look better, which is why if could become a default. The > main impact is a bit more even spacing between neighbouring lines, > because we operate in five instead of three ranges of primary badness now. > > (2) As side effect of (3) initialization of expansion (as well as > compression and protrusion) is delayed till it kicks in. This means that > > \definefontfeature[default][default][expansion=quality] > > has become cheaper and might as well become the default. > > (3) The biggest new feature (already known to some of you as we chat > about it) is that in addition to the (upto three) passes that create a > paragraph we can now have extra ones. This is discussed in > lowlevel-lines.pdf (preliminary). The second pass is the most important > one (it uses hyphenation but not yet emergency stretch) and, based on > criteria that can be set, between the second and third pass multiple > attempts can be triggered. > > So, for instance one can start careful (pass one), less careful (pass > two), test all kind of variants (pass 2 subpasses) etc. These subpasses > can have different tolerances, demerits, expansion, etc and quit once > soem criteria are met. > > The problem here is: what makes good defaults. Therefore we have some > tests definitions added (see spac-pas-tests) that we hope users will > test on realistic documents. > > In case one wonders: performance is quite okay and you won't notice much > difference on a reasonable run. Also, when you normally use expansion > for a whole document, you can now let it kick in more selectively. As a > result a run can be faster and the resulting pdf file can be smaller. > This feature kind of assumes (1) above. > > (4) There's also a new feature for optional content: you can have marked > sections in a paragraph that can be enabled or disabled in attempts to > get better output. Of course one can wonder it this is useful but it was > one of the older todo's. When it is considered usefull it can evolve. > > (The lowlevel-lines manual is work in progress and in a few weeks we > will pick up on that.) > > Hans > > - >Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > _______ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ -- Todas as coisas fatigam o corpo, salvo a música, que não fatiga nem o corpo nem seus membros, por ser descanso da alma, primavera do coração, distração do aflito, entretenimento do solitário, e viático do viajante. Kunnâsh al-Hâ'ik (Cancioneiro de al-Hâ'ik) _______ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] viewer layers (optional content groups, OCG)
On 6/19/2023 8:41 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Checking viewer layers: * \setupviewerlayer doesn’t work; e.g. "state=stop" only works if I put it in \defineviewerlayer in next upload - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] right and left arrowfill
On 6/22/2023 3:32 PM, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context wrote:
\starttext
x \rightarrowfill x
x \leftarrowfill x
hbox to 5cm:
y\hbox to5cm{\rightarrowfill}y
y\hbox to5cm{\leftarrowfill}y
\stoptext
But obviously not in an dimensioned \hbox, whereas Knuth's version does that
too.
\permanent\protected\def\adaptive{\dowithnextbox{\adaptivecheckbox\nextbox\box\nextbox}}
y\adaptive\hbox to5cm{x\rightarrowfill x}y
y\adaptive\hbox to5cm{x\leftarrowfill x}y
will keep you occupied for a while because now you have to grep for
adaptive
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] right and left arrowfill
\starttext x \rightarrowfill x x \leftarrowfill xhbox to 5cm: y\hbox to5cm{\rightarrowfill}y y\hbox to5cm{\leftarrowfill}y\stoptextBut obviously not in an dimensioned \hbox, whereas Knuth's version does that too.
On 22 Jun 2023, at 15:11, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: x \rightarrowfill x x \leftarrowfill xyours sincerelydr. Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] floatcombinations seem to not work correctly after lmtx update
On 6/19/2023 1:53 PM, Gerion Entrup via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
I recently updated my Context (lmtx). Unfortunately, I'm not aware of
the previous version anymore. The current one is 2023.06.04 18:58.
After the update one of my documents broke at floatcombinations.
The relevant code is this one:
the fact that you don't see a) coudl point to some mismatsh in
start/stop or { }
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] right and left arrowfill
On 6/21/2023 10:10 PM, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context wrote: A few days ago I drew attention to the fact that \rightarrowfill and \leftarrowfill are broken in the latest ConTeXt. Imho that should not happen with basic TeX macro's. Although one can recreate their definitions from the TeX-book (see the MWE attached), I still do not understand why it should be needed. \starttext x \rightarrowfill x x \leftarrowfill x \stoptext works ok here Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Cron /var/www/aanhet.net/context/bin/cron/context-mirror
receiving incremental file list ./ ctan.lsr document-2.htm download-1.htm download-2.htm logo-ade.png logo-cts.png logo-pod.png rss.xml show-fil.pdf context/latest/ context/latest/cont-lmt.zip context/latest/cont-mpd.zip context/latest/cont-ppc.zip context/latest/cont-sci.zip context/latest/cont-tmf.zip context/latest/cont-tst.7z context/latest/cont-tst.tar.xz context/latest/cont-tst.zip general/manuals/ general/manuals/lowlevel-lines.pdf sent 174,867 bytes received 39,720,996 bytes 3,799,606.00 bytes/sec total size is 561,230,464 speedup is 14.07 Running archiver: New dir: /var/www/aanhet.net/context//htdocs/archives/context-2023-06-22.15 232849101 /var/www/aanhet.net/context//htdocs/archives/context-2023-06-22.15/latest 126745317 /var/www/aanhet.net/context//htdocs/archives/context-2023-06-22.15/current 359598514 /var/www/aanhet.net/context//htdocs/archives/context-2023-06-22.15 359598514 total ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] new version
Hi, I uploaded a new lmtx version (so the next series will be luametatex 2.10.10). Although Mikael and I are still in improving math mode, we side tracked a bit to the par builder (better breaking of math etc). In the end some experiments there turned features. (1) We already had a more granular par builder but that was never really enabled. From now on you can do that with \setupalign[granular] After quite some tests and careful inspection of outcome we think that the results look better, which is why if could become a default. The main impact is a bit more even spacing between neighbouring lines, because we operate in five instead of three ranges of primary badness now. (2) As side effect of (3) initialization of expansion (as well as compression and protrusion) is delayed till it kicks in. This means that \definefontfeature[default][default][expansion=quality] has become cheaper and might as well become the default. (3) The biggest new feature (already known to some of you as we chat about it) is that in addition to the (upto three) passes that create a paragraph we can now have extra ones. This is discussed in lowlevel-lines.pdf (preliminary). The second pass is the most important one (it uses hyphenation but not yet emergency stretch) and, based on criteria that can be set, between the second and third pass multiple attempts can be triggered. So, for instance one can start careful (pass one), less careful (pass two), test all kind of variants (pass 2 subpasses) etc. These subpasses can have different tolerances, demerits, expansion, etc and quit once soem criteria are met. The problem here is: what makes good defaults. Therefore we have some tests definitions added (see spac-pas-tests) that we hope users will test on realistic documents. In case one wonders: performance is quite okay and you won't notice much difference on a reasonable run. Also, when you normally use expansion for a whole document, you can now let it kick in more selectively. As a result a run can be faster and the resulting pdf file can be smaller. This feature kind of assumes (1) above. (4) There's also a new feature for optional content: you can have marked sections in a paragraph that can be enabled or disabled in attempts to get better output. Of course one can wonder it this is useful but it was one of the older todo's. When it is considered usefull it can evolve. (The lowlevel-lines manual is work in progress and in a few weeks we will pick up on that.) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] right and left arrowfill
A few days ago I drew attention to the fact that \rightarrowfill and \leftarrowfill are broken in the latest ConTeXt. Imho that should not happen with basic TeX macro's.Although one can recreate their definitions from the TeX-book (see the MWE attached), I still do not understand why it should be needed. yours sincerelydr. Hans van der Meer hboxarrowfill.tex Description: Binary data hboxarrowfill.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fwd: [veraPDF-users] Development Preview: PDF file checker based on the Arlington PDF Model
Dear list, it is still early development, but this tool might be extremely useful to check PDF documents. Direct link to downloads (version 1.25 doesn’t seem to be available): https://software.verapdf.org/develop/arlington/1.23 Just in case it might help, Pablo Forwarded Message Subject: [veraPDF-users] Development Preview: PDF file checker based on the Arlington PDF Model Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 12:35:12 +0100 Dear all, On the 30th anniversary of PDF technology, we're excited to announce the availability of the first development preview of a new veraPDF-powered application. Building on the great work done by the PDF Association supported by the Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), veraPDF has developed an open-source PDF checker based on the Arlington PDF Model. This application is separate from the veraPDF PDF/A and PDF/UA validator but comprises a very familiar package of GUI and command-line applications. *The Arlington PDF Model is an invaluable resource for anyone developing or testing PDF tools. *Read more about the development here. <https://openpreservation.org/news/development-preview-pdf-file-checker-based-on-the-arlington-pdf-model/> The veraPDF development team have utilised Arlington in a way that's compatible with the veraPDF architecture. The Arlington PDF Model-based checker can now analyse PDF files against the full PDF 2.0 specification, including errata, by downloading the Java-based installer (Win, MacOS, Linux, requires Java 8+ JRE installed) at veraPDF Software Downloads <https://software.verapdf.org/develop/arlington/>. Best wishes, Helena -- Helena Watson (she/her), Marketing Officer Open Preservation Foundation (OPF) <https://openpreservation.org/> Twitter <http://twitter.com/openpreserve>| GitHub <https://github.com/openpreserve/>| Mailing List <http://openpreservation.org/subscribe> Please note: I work part-time for OPF, please bear with me if I don't reply to your email right away. I may email you at a time that is convenient for me, but please don't feel the need to respond outside of your working hours. Discover the benefits of OPF membership <https://openpreservation.org/membership> ___ veraPDF Users mailing list -- us...@lists.verapdf.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.verapdf.org ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
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Re: [NTG-context] error in column sets
Am 19.06.23 um 21:59 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context:
In a minimal example like this:
\setuppapersize[A5]
\definecolumnset[TwoColumns][n=2]
\starttext
\startcolumnset [TwoColumns]
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{knuth}}
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
… many columns start one line too low and overwrite their last line.
...
Also I seem to remember that column sets would enforce grid mode, but
they clearly don’t.
If you enable \setuplayout[grid=yes], lines get placed correctly.
Also floats work well (here and top).
But some columnsetspans still disappear, and footnotes get overwritten.
(I know, that tricky inset stuff…)
Hraban
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[NTG-context] error in column sets
In a minimal example like this:
\setuppapersize[A5]
\definecolumnset[TwoColumns][n=2]
\starttext
\startcolumnset [TwoColumns]
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{knuth}}
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
… many columns start one line too low and overwrite their last line.
An extended example (nearly the same as in the manual) shows that some
column set spans don’t appear:
\showgrid\showframe
\definecolumnset[Beispiel][n=3]
\definecolumnsetspan[Zwei][n=2,color=blue]
\definecolumnsetspan[Drei][n=3,color=red]
\starttext
\startcolumnset[Beispiel]
\startcolumnsetspan[Drei]% this works
{\bfd Überschrift}
Anleser: \dorecurse{2}{#1: \samplefile{knuth}\par}
\stoptitle
\stopcolumnsetspan
Zwischen: \samplefile{tufte}\par
\startcolumnsetspan[Zwei]% This never shows up!
Zwei: \dorecurse{2}{#1: \samplefile{lorem}\par}
\stopcolumnsetspan
Nach: \dorecurse{15}{#1: \samplefile{knuth}\par}
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
Also I seem to remember that column sets would enforce grid mode, but
they clearly don’t.
(BTW the old \startcolumns mode works better than I remembered.)
Hraban
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[NTG-context] viewer layers (optional content groups, OCG)
Checking viewer layers:
* \setupviewerlayer doesn’t work; e.g. "state=stop" only works if I put
it in \defineviewerlayer
* visible=no has no effect
* what are the options tag/name supposed to do?
(https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Viewer_Layers)
* known problem: only Acrobat supports JS to control OCGs
(\overlayrollbutton in the MWE)
Hraban
\setupinteraction[state=start]% needed for JS
\defineviewerlayer[Gebuesch][
state=stop,
]
\defineviewerlayer[Versteck]
\setupviewerlayer[Versteck][ % doesn’t work
state=stop,
]
\starttext
Hier fängt der Wald an.
\startviewerlayer[Gebuesch]
Hier versteckt sich ein Wolf...
\stopviewerlayer
Bäume, Bäume, Bäume...
\viewerlayer[Gebuesch]{... und ein Rotkehlchen}
\startviewerlayer[Versteck]Rumpelwicht\stopviewerlayer
\defineoverlay[MitVersteck]
[{\overlayrollbutton[VideLayer{Versteck}][HideLayer{Versteck}]}]
\framed[background=MitVersteck]{Kummst du mul kuckn?}
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] floatcombinations seem to not work correctly after lmtx update
Hi,
I recently updated my Context (lmtx). Unfortunately, I'm not aware of
the previous version anymore. The current one is 2023.06.04 18:58.
After the update one of my documents broke at floatcombinations.
The relevant code is this one:
```
\useMPlibrary[dum]
\setupcombinations[alternative=text]
\definefloat[subfigure][local=yes]
\setupcaption[subfigure][numberconversion=a, prefix=no, headseparator={)}]
\setuplabeltext[subfigure=]
\appendvalue{stopplacefigure}{\resetcounter[subfigure]}
\starttext
test sdlkf jlsdjf lksjdf
\startplacefigure[title=Test]
\startfloatcombination[nx=3]
\startplacesubfigure[title=Test]
\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.3\textwidth]
\stopplacesubfigure
\startplacesubfigure[title=Test]
\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.3\textwidth]
\stopplacesubfigure
\startplacesubfigure[title=Test]
\externalfigure[dummy][width=0.3\textwidth]
\stopplacesubfigure
\stopfloatcombination
\stopplacefigure
lskdjf lskjfd lksjdfljsdkjf
\stoptext
```
In this minimal example everything works. However, in my real document
the subfigures have enormous space between them so just two pictures are
visible (see the attached png).
Do you have a clue, why this happens? Otherwise, I would take the
preamble of the real document and try to lower it down to have a
reproducible example (but that takes a lot of time, so I wanted to ask
beforehand).
Best,
Gerion
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Re: [NTG-context] TikZ \shade broken
Hi Hans,
>> I am running into a problem with the \shade command...
>> tex error > tex error on line 8 in file ./TikZtest.tex: Valid keyword
>> expected, likely 'direction'
>> \pgfsys@vertshading
>> #1#2#3->{\pgf@parsefunc {#3}\pgfmathparse {#2}\setbox \pgfutil@tempboxa
>> =\hbox dir
>> ...
> luametatex doesn't have the dir keyword
>
> (I could probably add it in a simplified form just for this purpose because
> the performance penalty is less now.)
If you have a chance to add a dir keyword, that would be great. Since the
keyword is used inside a TikZ macro, I don’t see any way I can work around it
in my document.
I am gradually converting my diagrams from TikZ to MetaFun, but with well over
a hundred diagrams in my current project, that’s going to take some time.
Thanks!
Gavin
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Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?
On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 at 21:56, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > On 6/18/2023 8:37 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 06:53:06PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context > wrote: > >> What is PFC data? > > > > The glyph containers on a table-based SFNT format > > So just shapes or pieces of shapes? > > https://hal.science/hal-02112905v1/file/article-yannis.pdf -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?
On 6/18/2023 8:37 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 06:53:06PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: On 6/17/2023 2:06 AM, linguafalsa--- via ntg-context wrote: On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:49PM +0200, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context wrote: I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of the best places to find an answer. It is the best community. And I tell you what. What happened is that all TeX engines have neglected fonts from the beginning. Really? When tex showed up digital font technology was pretty much in flux. And, with metafont being part of the tex ecosystem, one can argue that tex was quite innovative too. Ecosystem. I would be very careful by including an ecosystem there. Yes. Yes. The TeX ecosystem is obviously part of TeX but is not part of the ecosystem of fonts either. And what is done on ecosystems can either benefit or affect ecosystems greatly. And it's a known trait that humans have been known for having more of a flock group mentality for no apparent rationally-based reasons than just being themselves making these decisions/following instincts or whatever and not because of a particular ecosystem, or for the benefit of the latter. With ecosystemn I mean: tex, metafont, cmr fonts, all kind of tools ... evolving into more engines, more fonts, macro packages, distributions, user groups and use group journals, meetings etc And the above does not imply, bear with me here, that metafont was not innovative, but it can be argued that without TeX there is no metafont, so no room is left for errors either. So, yes, it must be innovative. It has to be. There had to be metafont because there was not much else that could provide what tex needed (at that time). Potscript and its fonts came aroudn at the same time and were rather closed technologies. But as soon possible backend drivers (also part of the tex ecosystem) kicked in. Then we got virtual fonts which enhanced tex's capabilities. I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared style'. But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensing freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The only one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones in Adobe Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like InDesign (and not TeX). Licensing freedom is an oxymoron. There's no freedom in licensing. Only greed. The only extension engine that at one point had a plan in mind, or most of the bases covered in this regard was Omega. One needs morr than plans. Afaik omega was more about input processing and th efont part was mostly going beyond 8 bit fonts but i might have missed something (omega was never productin ready). Notwithstanding the intricacies/details of what may have actually happened with its short lifespan I think it's more than clear the lack of support behind it. I'm not going to delve into what exactly caused its demise or if it was simply the after effect of other projects that contributed to it. It's irrelevant. Hm, its time span was not that short ... I first heard of omega at the eurotex meeting in arnhem where also etex was discussed (and you dont'want me to cite things said there) .. in successive years there have been announcemnts etc. However, for an engine to be used it must work reliable and guiseppes 'aleph' was basically a variant of omega that also had etex on board. In fact, that was supported in context mkii (and some used it because of the input processor which i think was the more innovative thing in omega but i never dived into it, other users did) It makes no sense to discuss into all this as all teams involved in engines have published in user group journals or presented plans at meetings. Also keep in mind that we're talking frontend here; omega is dvi based so like regular tex and etex whatever it does with fonts is not really related to the engine bu tup to the backend: the engine only needs metrics (omega extended tfm into ofm for that). pdftex brought a pdf backend, xetex pipes into a dvi backend, luatex has a pdf backend built in; (nts being related to etec never took of also because it was not that useable and in the meantime pdftex had taken over); there are afaik some very useable japanese tex engines; the fact that dvi survived was due to dvipdfmx development But stand by for a second. I look forward to your quick witted answers. But hear me out Suppose that on my prior message I was referring indeed to 'mkii' and not to 'omega' And also suppose for a second that the term 'omega' is to be replaced with 'mkii' on your reply accordingly After careful observation the resemblance is quite possibly identical, isn't it? and it could also inarguably apply to the circumstances as well. Don't you think? no it isn't, its building upon hat is there: mkii -> mkiv -> mkxl (p
[NTG-context] right/left-arrowfill not seen
Why do the \rightarrowfill and \leftarrowfill not show up in the accompanying MWE? yours sincerelydr. Hans van der Meer hboxfill.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document hboxfill.tex Description: Binary data hboxfill.log Description: Binary data ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 06:53:06PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > On 6/17/2023 2:06 AM, linguafalsa--- via ntg-context wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:49PM +0200, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context > > wrote: > > > I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of > > > the best places to find an answer. > > > > > > > It is the best community. And I tell you what. > > > > What happened is that all TeX engines have neglected fonts from the > > beginning. > > Really? When tex showed up digital font technology was pretty much in flux. > And, with metafont being part of the tex ecosystem, one can argue that tex > was quite innovative too. Ecosystem. I would be very careful by including an ecosystem there. Yes. Yes. The TeX ecosystem is obviously part of TeX but is not part of the ecosystem of fonts either. And what is done on ecosystems can either benefit or affect ecosystems greatly. And it's a known trait that humans have been known for having more of a flock group mentality for no apparent rationally-based reasons than just being themselves making these decisions/following instincts or whatever and not because of a particular ecosystem, or for the benefit of the latter. And the above does not imply, bear with me here, that metafont was not innovative, but it can be argued that without TeX there is no metafont, so no room is left for errors either. So, yes, it must be innovative. It has to be. > > Potscript and its fonts came aroudn at the same time and were rather closed > technologies. But as soon possible backend drivers (also part of the tex > ecosystem) kicked in. > > Then we got virtual fonts which enhanced tex's capabilities. > > > > I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared > > > style'. > > > > > > But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more > > > licensing freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive > > > searching. The only one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the > > > URW Classico ones in Adobe Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in > > > Adobe programs like InDesign (and not TeX). > > > > > > > Licensing freedom is an oxymoron. There's no freedom in licensing. > > Only greed. > > > > The only extension engine that at one point had a plan in mind, > > or most of the bases covered in this regard was Omega. > > One needs morr than plans. Afaik omega was more about input processing and > th efont part was mostly going beyond 8 bit fonts but i might have missed > something (omega was never productin ready). Notwithstanding the intricacies/details of what may have actually happened with its short lifespan I think it's more than clear the lack of support behind it. I'm not going to delve into what exactly caused its demise or if it was simply the after effect of other projects that contributed to it. It's irrelevant. But stand by for a second. I look forward to your quick witted answers. But hear me out Suppose that on my prior message I was referring indeed to 'mkii' and not to 'omega' And also suppose for a second that the term 'omega' is to be replaced with 'mkii' on your reply accordingly After careful observation the resemblance is quite possibly identical, isn't it? and it could also inarguably apply to the circumstances as well. Don't you think? I mean, it's like comparing oranges with apples, and mkii with mkiv and mkvi and so forth If you were to tell me then, that mkii for instance was not aimed as an input processing I can almos assure its falsiliability is written all over, even before the sentence is processed and thought out loud by you. Bottom line is that the production-ready part is an obvious byproduct of its short lifespan, but one cannot be making the claim (false as would have been seen later, because omega carbon footprint lasted more on books than on shelves really, not for selling out fast but rather discontinued quickly) and that its goal was solely within this input processing spectrum. Because it wasn't. Or heck or heck. Let's go even further. By making the dubious assertion that we've been built with noses to hold our eyeglasses lest these eyeglasses fall off while reading, or that we've been built with ears to hold pencils and pens in the ears while thinking and writing. For crying out loud. > > It is xetex that hooked into opentype although pdftex can actually deal with > truetype fonts to some extend. Before there was something 'opentype' we had > two competing but similar technologies. And it took a while before it was > even clear how to interpre the specification (also think about reverse > engeneering fonts and heuristics and ... bugs or features ...).
Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?
On 6/18/2023 10:20 AM, Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context wrote: On 16 Jun 2023, at 17:35, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context wrote: I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of the best places to find an answer. I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared style'. But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensing freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The only one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones in Adobe Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like InDesign (and not TeX). I found some flared-sans fonts, but not one with at least regular, italic, bold, and bold-italic. Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is really free (so also for commercial use) to use out there? Not free but good value: Fontspring have a font called Ophian that looks (to my untrained eye!) a reasonable match with Optima. <https://www.fontspring.com/fonts/fontsite/ophian> Optima has a very recognizable and distinctive design. One of my favourites. The palatino nova is another favourite and has a nice sans (casual). $22 for the first licence added to the shopping cart then reductions show for the subsequent licences. I'm guessing you'll need two: desktop in order to install on a PC and publish a printed book, and eBook to allow distribution of a PDF or eBook, so 33 USD in total. There's no time limit nor number of copies limit as far as I can see - just one eBook licence per title. Maybe there will be VAT etc added when you get to checkout - I didn't go that far. Yes, but it smells a bit like some clone. I have an official optima nova cd (in type one format, i can't afford the opentype right now) as well as the official palatino nova cd (in opentype format); I got them from the master himself, which makes them even more special. (It reminds me that I need to check if we can drop in replacements in the pagella math.) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?
> On 16 Jun 2023, at 17:35, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context > wrote: > > I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of the > best places to find an answer. > > I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared style'. > > But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensing > freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The only > one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones in Adobe > Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like InDesign > (and not TeX). > > I found some flared-sans fonts, but not one with at least regular, italic, > bold, and bold-italic. > > Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is really free (so also > for commercial use) to use out there? Not free but good value: Fontspring have a font called Ophian that looks (to my untrained eye!) a reasonable match with Optima. <https://www.fontspring.com/fonts/fontsite/ophian> $22 for the first licence added to the shopping cart then reductions show for the subsequent licences. I'm guessing you'll need two: desktop in order to install on a PC and publish a printed book, and eBook to allow distribution of a PDF or eBook, so 33 USD in total. There's no time limit nor number of copies limit as far as I can see - just one eBook licence per title. Maybe there will be VAT etc added when you get to checkout - I didn't go that far. Regards, — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TikZ \shade broken
On 6/17/2023 7:28 PM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
Hi List,
First, a big thanks to Aditya for solving the missing pgfsys-luatex.def! That
was a show-stopper on my Mac.
Now that I can use TikZ again, I am running into a problem with the \shade
command. Below is a small working example from the TikZ manual [pp.39-41]. The
first tikzpicture is the example. The second TikZ picture is similar, but
without any shading.
\usemodule[tikz]
\starttext
\starttikzpicture
\shade[top color=yellow,bottom color=black] (0,0) rectangle +(2,1);
\shade[left color=yellow,right color=black] (3,0) rectangle +(2,1);
\shadedraw[inner color=yellow,outer color=black,draw=yellow] (6,0) rectangle
+(2,1);
\shade[ball color=green] (9,.5) circle (.5cm);
\stoptikzpicture
\starttikzpicture
\draw[color=black] (0,0) rectangle +(2,1);
\fill[color=yellow] (3,0) rectangle +(2,1);
\filldraw[fill=black,draw =yellow] (6,0) rectangle +(2,1);
\fill[fill=green] (9,.5) circle (.5cm);
\stoptikzpicture
\stoptext
\stoptext
The second picture works. The first picture produces quite an error message
(below). I’m using
ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.01 09:42 LMTX fmt: 2023.6.2
on an M1 Mac with Ventura 13.4
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Gavin
tex error > tex error on line 8 in file ./TikZtest.tex: Valid keyword
expected, likely 'direction'
\pgfsys@vertshading
#1#2#3->{\pgf@parsefunc {#3}\pgfmathparse {#2}\setbox \pgfutil@tempboxa =\hbox
dir
TLT to\pgfmathresult pt{\vbox to\pgf@max {\vfil \pgfsys@invoke {/Sh sh}}\hfil
}\pgf@process {\pgfpoint {#2}{\pgf@max }}\immediate \saveboxresource resources
{/Shading
luametatex doesn't have the dir keyword
(I could probably add it in a simplified form just for this purpose
because the performance penalty is less now.)
Hans
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[NTG-context] TikZ \shade broken
Hi List,
First, a big thanks to Aditya for solving the missing pgfsys-luatex.def! That
was a show-stopper on my Mac.
Now that I can use TikZ again, I am running into a problem with the \shade
command. Below is a small working example from the TikZ manual [pp.39-41]. The
first tikzpicture is the example. The second TikZ picture is similar, but
without any shading.
\usemodule[tikz]
\starttext
\starttikzpicture
\shade[top color=yellow,bottom color=black] (0,0) rectangle +(2,1);
\shade[left color=yellow,right color=black] (3,0) rectangle +(2,1);
\shadedraw[inner color=yellow,outer color=black,draw=yellow] (6,0) rectangle
+(2,1);
\shade[ball color=green] (9,.5) circle (.5cm);
\stoptikzpicture
\starttikzpicture
\draw[color=black] (0,0) rectangle +(2,1);
\fill[color=yellow] (3,0) rectangle +(2,1);
\filldraw[fill=black,draw =yellow] (6,0) rectangle +(2,1);
\fill[fill=green] (9,.5) circle (.5cm);
\stoptikzpicture
\stoptext
\stoptext
The second picture works. The first picture produces quite an error message
(below). I’m using
ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.01 09:42 LMTX fmt: 2023.6.2
on an M1 Mac with Ventura 13.4
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Gavin
tex error > tex error on line 8 in file ./TikZtest.tex: Valid keyword
expected, likely 'direction'
\pgfsys@vertshading
#1#2#3->{\pgf@parsefunc {#3}\pgfmathparse {#2}\setbox \pgfutil@tempboxa =\hbox
dir
TLT to\pgfmathresult pt{\vbox to\pgf@max {\vfil \pgfsys@invoke {/Sh sh}}\hfil
}\pgf@process {\pgfpoint {#2}{\pgf@max }}\immediate \saveboxresource resources
{/Shading
...dafter \expandafter \def \expandafter \expandafter \expandafter \@@args
\expandafter \expandafter \expandafter {\csname pgf@args\pgf@shadingname
\endcsname }\expandafter \expandafter \expandafter \@temp \expandafter \@args
\@@args
\expandafter ...
\pgfutil@firstoftwo
#1#2->#1
...r \expandafter \expandafter {\csname pgf@args\pgf@shadingname \endcsname
}\expandafter \expandafter \expandafter \@temp \expandafter \@args \@@args
\expandafter \pgfmath@smuggleone \csname \pgf@shadingxname \endcsname \endgroup
}{}
\pgf@invokesh ...
\pgfutil@secondoftwo
#1#2->#2
\pgfshadepath
...e@cos }{0pt}{0pt}\pgfsys@transformcm {\pgf@sys@tonumber {\pgf@xc
}}{0}{0}{\pgf@sys@tonumber {\pgf@yc }}{0pt}{0pt}\ifx \pgf@shade@extra@transform
\pgfutil@empty \else \pgflowlevel {\pgf@shade@extra@transform }\fi
\pgfuseshading {#1}
\pgfsys@endsc ...
...
\shade[top color=yellow,bottom color=black] (0,0) rectangle +(2,1);
1 % !TEX useAlternatePath
2 % !TEX useConTeXtSyncParser
3
4 \usemodule[tikz]
5
6 \starttext
7 \starttikzpicture
8 >> \shade[top color=yellow,bottom color=black] (0,0) rectangle +(2,1);
9 \shade[left color=yellow,right color=black] (3,0) rectangle +(2,1);
10 \shadedraw[inner color=yellow,outer color=black,draw=yellow] (6,0)
rectangle +(2,1);
11 \shade[ball color=green] (9,.5) circle (.5cm);
12 \stoptikzpicture
13 \starttikzpicture
14 \draw[color=black] (0,0) rectangle +(2,1);
15 \fill[color=yellow] (3,0) rectangle +(2,1);
16 \filldraw[fill=black,draw =yellow] (6,0) rectangle +(2,1);
17 \fill[fill=green] (9,.5) circle (.5cm);
18 \stoptikzpicture
You started a keyword but it seems to be an invalid one. The first character(s)
might give you a clue. You might want to quit unwanted lookahead with \relax.
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
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Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?
On 6/17/2023 2:06 AM, linguafalsa--- via ntg-context wrote: On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:49PM +0200, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context wrote: I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of the best places to find an answer. It is the best community. And I tell you what. What happened is that all TeX engines have neglected fonts from the beginning. Really? When tex showed up digital font technology was pretty much in flux. And, with metafont being part of the tex ecosystem, one can argue that tex was quite innovative too. Potscript and its fonts came aroudn at the same time and were rather closed technologies. But as soon possible backend drivers (also part of the tex ecosystem) kicked in. Then we got virtual fonts which enhanced tex's capabilities. I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared style'. But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensing freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The only one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones in Adobe Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like InDesign (and not TeX). Licensing freedom is an oxymoron. There's no freedom in licensing. Only greed. The only extension engine that at one point had a plan in mind, or most of the bases covered in this regard was Omega. One needs morr than plans. Afaik omega was more about input processing and th efont part was mostly going beyond 8 bit fonts but i might have missed something (omega was never productin ready). It is xetex that hooked into opentype although pdftex can actually deal with truetype fonts to some extend. Before there was something 'opentype' we had two competing but similar technologies. And it took a while before it was even clear how to interpre the specification (also think about reverse engeneering fonts and heuristics and ... bugs or features ...). TeX was always pretty fast in picking up new stuff (maybe users less so). When it came to commercial fonts the plan of action ahead was by including PFC data on these very same commercial fonts that would benefit primarily its opentype versions in the long run. What is PFC data? What do you have right now? Opentype fonts only. Sure. Quality can be even the same than its type1 counterpart, and at times not so much according so some folks that have bothered to go the extra length in making the most accurate comparison that's available between them two. For most fonts it's just 'more shapes' which then also leads to more ligatures, kerns etc btu that is already nice. And when fonts lack something we can always tweak them (runtime). But looking at it from a bright side/perspective, I think we're no longer facing the same pre-historic constraints of including a font as before, as long as it's not for commercial purposes, You are well aware of these non and commercial uses even before your extensive search anyway, I'm not sure what is the difference between commercial fonts and free ones as they use the same technology; with some exceptions, fonts are not that expensive (take lucida from tug, making fonts takes time after all); and for publishers it's noise on their budgets. p.s many many years ago I read and followed some publications about the aformentioned extension and just went over them recently, to have an idea what did and did not work. In regards to typefaces, its goal was unmatched, or so I think. It might be comforting to know that right from the start luatex made a lot possible wrt fonts (runtime manipulation) and was also one of the first to support variable fonts, color fonts etc (not that many care about that). And with luametatex we go even further. I found some flared-sans fonts, but not one with at least regular, italic, bold, and bold-italic. Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is really free (so also for commercial use) to use out there? I had to search the net to figure out that flare sans fonts are sans fonts with serifs For those into fonts: https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb44-1/tb136carter-romano.pdf I a very nice overview of how it went with digital fonts (and what we probably lost in getting where we are now and might loose soon). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https
Re: [NTG-context] All NUL files in the Context distribution
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 10:06:09AM +0200, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context wrote: > Hi, > > Le 14/06/2023 à 17:13, Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > I was looking into the SciTE setup when I found that > > tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties > > only contained NUL bytes. > > > > Deleting and reinstalling doesn't fix it. > > > > I have now checked the other files there and these files seem to have > > gotten corrupted at some point. Does anyone have a working copy to > > restore them? > > > > tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties > > tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/lexers/scite-context-lexer-web-snippets.lua > > tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/start/en/ma-cb-en-commands.tex > > > > Thanks, > > Same for me: > tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/start/en/ma-cb-en-commands.tex > contains NUL characters. > > > system > ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.04 18:58 LMTX fmt: 2023.6.13 int: > english/english not only that version but also ConTeXt ver: 2023.04.27 17:04 MKIV fmt: 2023.5.4 int: english/english no bueno. > > -- > > Alain > > > > _______ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ -- As long as there are ill-defined goals, bizarre bugs, and unrealistic schedules, there will be Real Programmers willing to jump in and Solve The Problem, saving the documentation for later. ___________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] All NUL files in the Context distribution
Hi, Le 14/06/2023 à 17:13, Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context a écrit : Hi, I was looking into the SciTE setup when I found that tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties only contained NUL bytes. Deleting and reinstalling doesn't fix it. I have now checked the other files there and these files seem to have gotten corrupted at some point. Does anyone have a working copy to restore them? tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/lexers/scite-context-lexer-web-snippets.lua tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/start/en/ma-cb-en-commands.tex Thanks, Same for me: tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/start/en/ma-cb-en-commands.tex contains NUL characters. > system > ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.04 18:58 LMTX fmt: 2023.6.13 int: english/english -- Alain ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Can I use 'extend' and 'slant' in \definefontfamily to create fake italics etc.?
Libertinus Sans does not have Bold Italic. With this, I come close in ConTeXt:
\definefontfeature [fakeitalic] [slant=0.25]
\definefontfamily
[archimate]
[ss]
[Libertinus Sans]
[rscale=1.0395]
[tf=style:Regular,
bf=style:Bold,
it=style:Italic,
bi={style:Bold,features:fakeitalic}]
It is slightly 'thicker' and the lowercases have a somewhat lower height
percentage of the uppercases than Optima, but this is the closest I have come.
G
> On 16 Jun 2023, at 18:55, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> Only regular, italic, bold, no bold italic (just as the Linux Bilonium it was
> forked from)
>
>> On 16 Jun 2023, at 18:39, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
>> mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:
>>
>> Am 16.06.23 um 18:35 schrieb Gerben Wierda via ntg-context:
>>> I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of
>>> the best places to find an answer.
>>> I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared style'.
>>> But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensing
>>> freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The
>>> only one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones
>>> in Adobe Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like
>>> InDesign (and not TeX).
>>> I found some flared-sans fonts, but not one with at least regular, italic,
>>> bold, and bold-italic.
>>> Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is /really/ free (so
>>> also for commercial use) to use out there?
>>
>> How about Libertinus Sans?
>> https://github.com/alerque/libertinus <https://github.com/alerque/libertinus>
>>
>> Hraban
>>
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Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:49PM +0200, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context wrote: > I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of the > best places to find an answer. > It is the best community. And I tell you what. What happened is that all TeX engines have neglected fonts from the beginning. > I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared style'. > > But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensing > freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The only > one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones in Adobe > Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like InDesign > (and not TeX). > Licensing freedom is an oxymoron. There's no freedom in licensing. Only greed. The only extension engine that at one point had a plan in mind, or most of the bases covered in this regard was Omega. When it came to commercial fonts the plan of action ahead was by including PFC data on these very same commercial fonts that would benefit primarily its opentype versions in the long run. What do you have right now? Opentype fonts only. Sure. Quality can be even the same than its type1 counterpart, and at times not so much according so some folks that have bothered to go the extra length in making the most accurate comparison that's available between them two. But looking at it from a bright side/perspective, I think we're no longer facing the same pre-historic constraints of including a font as before, as long as it's not for commercial purposes, You are well aware of these non and commercial uses even before your extensive search anyway, p.s many many years ago I read and followed some publications about the aformentioned extension and just went over them recently, to have an idea what did and did not work. In regards to typefaces, its goal was unmatched, or so I think. > I found some flared-sans fonts, but not one with at least regular, italic, > bold, and bold-italic. > > Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is really free (so also > for commercial use) to use out there? > > Yours, > > Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon > <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>) > R IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) > Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture > <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> > Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ -- I must have slipped a disk -- my pack hurts! _______ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 1:36 PM Gerben Wierda via ntg-context wrote: > > I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of the > best places to find an answer. > > I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared style'. > > But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensing > freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The only > one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones in Adobe > Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like InDesign > (and not TeX). Is this kind of tie-in sale even legal? > > > I found some flared-sans fonts, but not one with at least regular, italic, > bold, and bold-italic. > > Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is really free (so also > for commercial use) to use out there? > > Yours, > > Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn, Mastodon) > R IT Strategy (main site) > Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture > Book: Mastering ArchiMate > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ -- Todas as coisas fatigam o corpo, salvo a música, que não fatiga nem o corpo nem seus membros, por ser descanso da alma, primavera do coração, distração do aflito, entretenimento do solitário, e viático do viajante. Kunnâsh al-Hâ'ik (Cancioneiro de al-Hâ'ik) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Protect the lettrine
On 6/15/2023 8:35 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Dave,
How would you instruct ConTeXt to "protect" the lettrine such that
regardless of whether the first paragraph spans multiple lines, a short
first paragraph will still prevent the second paragraph from overlapping
the lettrine?
Here's the output I'm looking to achieve:
https://i.stack.imgur.com/XeZQS.png
Note how the second line honours the lettrine's width and padding, in the
same way that the second line of the first paragraph in Knuth's quote
respects the width and padding.
Here's a questionable Lua-based solution:
\startluacode
userdata.hangindent = 0
function userdata.post_lettrine(head)
nodes.tasks.disableaction("finalizers", "userdata.post_lettrine")
if tex.prevgraf < math.abs(tex.hangafter) then
userdata.hangindent = tex.hangindent
nodes.tasks.enableaction("processors", "userdata.next_par")
end
return head
end
nodes.tasks.appendaction("finalizers", "before", "userdata.post_lettrine")
nodes.tasks.disableaction("finalizers", "userdata.post_lettrine")
function userdata.next_par(head)
nodes.tasks.disableaction("processors", "userdata.next_par")
if head.next.id == node.id("glue") and
head.next.subtype == 20
then
head.next.width = userdata.hangindent
end
return head
end
nodes.tasks.appendaction("processors", "before", "userdata.next_par")
nodes.tasks.disableaction("processors", "userdata.next_par")
local default = typesetters.initials.actions.default
function typesetters.initials.actions.default(...)
nodes.tasks.enableaction("finalizers", "userdata.post_lettrine")
return default(...)
end
\stopluacode
\setupinitial[n=2]
[...]
Normally manipulating nodes inside the callbacks is the wrong way to do
something, but in this case, that's exactly how the standard initial
code works.
We need to modify the "default" alternative since "\setupinitial"
provides no way for us to set a different alternative. A better solution
would be to provide a new alternative so we wouldn't need to make
questionable overrides to the base code.
Indeed, and it might also sort of fragile due to the prevgraf although
we can assume sane usage. All this stuff is also a bit order sensitive.
I'll added this:
\setupinitial[n=2,continue=yes]
But I'll also cheat a bit by adding a prevdepth field to the parstate
that remembers the previous one (as it gets lost otherwise).
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?
Only regular, italic, bold, no bold italic (just as the Linux Bilonium it was forked from) > On 16 Jun 2023, at 18:39, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context > wrote: > > Am 16.06.23 um 18:35 schrieb Gerben Wierda via ntg-context: >> I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of >> the best places to find an answer. >> I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared style'. >> But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensing >> freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The only >> one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones in >> Adobe Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like >> InDesign (and not TeX). >> I found some flared-sans fonts, but not one with at least regular, italic, >> bold, and bold-italic. >> Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is /really/ free (so also >> for commercial use) to use out there? > > How about Libertinus Sans? > https://github.com/alerque/libertinus > > Hraban > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>) R IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> ___________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?
Hi, On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 6:36 PM Gerben Wierda via ntg-context wrote: > > I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of the > best places to find an answer. > > I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared style'. > > But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensing > freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The only > one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones in Adobe > Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like InDesign > (and not TeX). > > I found some flared-sans fonts, but not one with at least regular, italic, > bold, and bold-italic. > > Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is really free (so also > for commercial use) to use out there? > Maybe you like libertinus sans (linux biolinum)? /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?
Am 16.06.23 um 18:35 schrieb Gerben Wierda via ntg-context: I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of the best places to find an answer. I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared style'. But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensing freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The only one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones in Adobe Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like InDesign (and not TeX). I found some flared-sans fonts, but not one with at least regular, italic, bold, and bold-italic. Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is /really/ free (so also for commercial use) to use out there? How about Libertinus Sans? https://github.com/alerque/libertinus Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?
I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of the best places to find an answer. I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared style'. But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensing freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The only one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones in Adobe Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like InDesign (and not TeX). I found some flared-sans fonts, but not one with at least regular, italic, bold, and bold-italic. Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is really free (so also for commercial use) to use out there? Yours, Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>) R IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using the open source Cabin font
Removed the variable width from the system, installed the static fonts.
This works. Thank you.
G
> On 16 Jun 2023, at 15:25, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> Hi Gerben,
>
> can you try the static version of the fonts. When I tried the variable width
> version no files are listed but with the static version I had no problems to
> load the font.
>
> \definefontfamily [archimate] [ss] [Cabin]
>
> \setupbodyfont [archimate]
>
> \starttext
> {\bf The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog}
>
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
> Gerben Wierda via ntg-context schrieb am 16.06.2023 um 15:19:
>> I was wrong, not just the bold doesn't work, everything is replaced with
>> Latin Modern. Cabin isn't used at all.
>>
>>> On 16 Jun 2023, at 15:05, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context >> <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been trying to use the open source Cabin font
>>> (https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin
>>> <https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin>) like this:
>>>
>>> \definefontfamily
>>> [archimate]
>>> [ss]
>>> [Cabin]
>>> [tf=style:Regular,
>>> bf=style:Semibold,
>>> it=style:Italic,
>>> bi=style:Semibold Italic]
>>> \setupbodyfont[archimate]
>>>
>>> \setuplanguage[en][patterns={en}]\mainlanguage[en]
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> \setupindenting[none]
>>> \setupindenting[no]
>>> {\bf The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog}
>>>
>>> \input knuth
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> But when compiling I get no bold text
>>>
>>> I installed it in LMTX and it has been installed:
>>>
>>> gerben@hermione% mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern='*abin*'
>>> identifier familyname fontname filename
>>> subfont instances
>>>
>>> cabinitalic cabincabinitalic
>>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
>>> italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>>> cabinitalicbolditalic cabincabinitalic
>>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
>>> italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>>> cabinitalicitalic cabincabinitalic
>>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
>>> italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>>> cabinitalicmediumitalic cabincabinitalic
>>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
>>> italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>>> cabinitalicsemibolditalic cabincabinitalic
>>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
>>> italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>>> cabinnormal cabincabinregular
>>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
>>> regular medium semibold bold
>>> cabinregularcabincabinregular
>>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
>>> regular medium semibold bold
>>> cabinregularboldcabincabinregular
>>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
>>> regular medium semibold bold
>>> cabinregularmedium cabincabinregular
>>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
>>> regular medium semibold bold
>>> cabinregularregular cabincabinregular
>>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
>>> regular medium semibold bold
>>> cabinregularsemiboldcabincabinregular
>>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
>>> regular medium semibold bold
>>>
>>> What am I missing?
>>>
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Re: [NTG-context] Using the open source Cabin font
Hi Gerben,
can you try the static version of the fonts. When I tried the variable
width version no files are listed but with the static version I had no
problems to load the font.
\definefontfamily [archimate] [ss] [Cabin]
\setupbodyfont [archimate]
\starttext
{\bf The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog}
\input knuth
\stoptext
Wolfgang
Gerben Wierda via ntg-context schrieb am 16.06.2023 um 15:19:
I was wrong, not just the bold doesn't work, /everything/ is replaced
with Latin Modern. Cabin isn't used at all.
On 16 Jun 2023, at 15:05, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context
mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:
I've been trying to use the open source Cabin font
(https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin) like this:
\definefontfamily
[archimate]
[ss]
[Cabin]
[tf=style:Regular,
bf=style:Semibold,
it=style:Italic,
bi=style:Semibold Italic]
\setupbodyfont[archimate]
\setuplanguage[en][patterns={en}]\mainlanguage[en]
\starttext
\setupindenting[none]
\setupindenting[no]
{\bf The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog}
\input knuth
\stoptext
But when compiling I get no bold text
I installed it in LMTX and it has been installed:
gerben@hermione% mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern='*abin*'
identifier familyname fontname filename
subfont instances
cabinitalic cabin cabinitalic
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinitalicbolditalic cabin cabinitalic
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinitalicitalic cabin cabinitalic
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinitalicmediumitalic cabin cabinitalic
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinitalicsemibolditalic cabin cabinitalic
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinnormal cabin cabinregular
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
regular medium semibold bold
cabinregular cabin cabinregular
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
regular medium semibold bold
cabinregularbold cabin cabinregular
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
regular medium semibold bold
cabinregularmedium cabin cabinregular
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
regular medium semibold bold
cabinregularregular cabin cabinregular
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
regular medium semibold bold
cabinregularsemibold cabin cabinregular
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
regular medium semibold bold
What am I missing?
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Re: [NTG-context] Using the open source Cabin font
I was wrong, not just the bold doesn't work, everything is replaced with Latin
Modern. Cabin isn't used at all.
> On 16 Jun 2023, at 15:05, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> I've been trying to use the open source Cabin font
> (https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin
> <https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin>) like this:
>
> \definefontfamily
> [archimate]
> [ss]
> [Cabin]
> [tf=style:Regular,
> bf=style:Semibold,
> it=style:Italic,
> bi=style:Semibold Italic]
> \setupbodyfont[archimate]
>
> \setuplanguage[en][patterns={en}]\mainlanguage[en]
>
> \starttext
> \setupindenting[none]
> \setupindenting[no]
> {\bf The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog}
>
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
>
> But when compiling I get no bold text
>
> I installed it in LMTX and it has been installed:
>
> gerben@hermione% mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern='*abin*'
> identifier familyname fontname filename
> subfont instances
>
> cabinitalic cabincabinitalic
> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
> italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
> cabinitalicbolditalic cabincabinitalic
> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
> italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
> cabinitalicitalic cabincabinitalic
> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
> italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
> cabinitalicmediumitalic cabincabinitalic
> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
> italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
> cabinitalicsemibolditalic cabincabinitalic
> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
> italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
> cabinnormal cabincabinregular
> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
> regular medium semibold bold
> cabinregularcabincabinregular
> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
> regular medium semibold bold
> cabinregularboldcabincabinregular
> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
> regular medium semibold bold
> cabinregularmedium cabincabinregular
> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
> regular medium semibold bold
> cabinregularregular cabincabinregular
> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
> regular medium semibold bold
> cabinregularsemiboldcabincabinregular
> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
> regular medium semibold bold
>
> What am I missing?
>
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[NTG-context] Using the open source Cabin font
I've been trying to use the open source Cabin font
(https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin
<https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin>) like this:
\definefontfamily
[archimate]
[ss]
[Cabin]
[tf=style:Regular,
bf=style:Semibold,
it=style:Italic,
bi=style:Semibold Italic]
\setupbodyfont[archimate]
\setuplanguage[en][patterns={en}]\mainlanguage[en]
\starttext
\setupindenting[none]
\setupindenting[no]
{\bf The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog}
\input knuth
\stoptext
But when compiling I get no bold text
I installed it in LMTX and it has been installed:
gerben@hermione% mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern='*abin*'
identifier familyname fontname filename
subfont instances
cabinitalic cabincabinitalic
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinitalicbolditalic cabincabinitalic
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinitalicitalic cabincabinitalic
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinitalicmediumitalic cabincabinitalic
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinitalicsemibolditalic cabincabinitalic
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinnormal cabincabinregular
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
regular medium semibold bold
cabinregularcabincabinregular
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
regular medium semibold bold
cabinregularboldcabincabinregular
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
regular medium semibold bold
cabinregularmedium cabincabinregular
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
regular medium semibold bold
cabinregularregular cabincabinregular
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
regular medium semibold bold
cabinregularsemiboldcabincabinregular
/Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf
regular medium semibold bold
What am I missing?
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Re: [NTG-context] Wiki Down?
All good now Taco. Thanks for the advice. Keith McKay On 16/06/2023 12:33, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hi Keith, On 16 Jun 2023, at 13:04, Keith McKay via ntg-context wrote: I am getting "safari can't find server" for the wiki so I checked on isitdownrightnow.com and it confirms it is down. Must have been some transport issue. The server is up and has not been down today at all. If it keeps appearing to be down, try a traceroute tool to see where the problem is, e.g. https://ping.eu/traceroute/ Best wishes, Taco — Taco Hoekwater E: t...@bittext.nl genderfluid (all pronouns) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Wiki Down?
Hi Keith, > On 16 Jun 2023, at 13:04, Keith McKay via ntg-context > wrote: > > I am getting "safari can't find server" for the wiki so I checked on > isitdownrightnow.com and it confirms it is down. Must have been some transport issue. The server is up and has not been down today at all. If it keeps appearing to be down, try a traceroute tool to see where the problem is, e.g. https://ping.eu/traceroute/ Best wishes, Taco — Taco Hoekwater E: t...@bittext.nl genderfluid (all pronouns) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Wiki Down?
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Re: [NTG-context] Protect the lettrine
Hi Dave,
> How would you instruct ConTeXt to "protect" the lettrine such that
> regardless of whether the first paragraph spans multiple lines, a short
> first paragraph will still prevent the second paragraph from overlapping
> the lettrine?
> Here's the output I'm looking to achieve:
>
> https://i.stack.imgur.com/XeZQS.png
>
> Note how the second line honours the lettrine's width and padding, in the
> same way that the second line of the first paragraph in Knuth's quote
> respects the width and padding.
Here's a questionable Lua-based solution:
\startluacode
userdata.hangindent = 0
function userdata.post_lettrine(head)
nodes.tasks.disableaction("finalizers", "userdata.post_lettrine")
if tex.prevgraf < math.abs(tex.hangafter) then
userdata.hangindent = tex.hangindent
nodes.tasks.enableaction("processors", "userdata.next_par")
end
return head
end
nodes.tasks.appendaction("finalizers", "before", "userdata.post_lettrine")
nodes.tasks.disableaction("finalizers", "userdata.post_lettrine")
function userdata.next_par(head)
nodes.tasks.disableaction("processors", "userdata.next_par")
if head.next.id == node.id("glue") and
head.next.subtype == 20
then
head.next.width = userdata.hangindent
end
return head
end
nodes.tasks.appendaction("processors", "before", "userdata.next_par")
nodes.tasks.disableaction("processors", "userdata.next_par")
local default = typesetters.initials.actions.default
function typesetters.initials.actions.default(...)
nodes.tasks.enableaction("finalizers", "userdata.post_lettrine")
return default(...)
end
\stopluacode
\setupinitial[n=2]
[...]
Normally manipulating nodes inside the callbacks is the wrong way to do
something, but in this case, that's exactly how the standard initial
code works.
We need to modify the "default" alternative since "\setupinitial"
provides no way for us to set a different alternative. A better solution
would be to provide a new alternative so we wouldn't need to make
questionable overrides to the base code.
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Re: [NTG-context] Protect the lettrine
It's a tough problem for sure.
I'm wondering if there's a general solution?
That is, a way to tell ConTeXt to "protect the lettrine" regardless of the
source document text? Nothing can be hard-coded because the setups (take a
look at keenwrite themes
https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite-themes/tree/main/boschet) don't
"know" anything about the source document text.
That's why I stated that nothing between \starttext and \stoptext may
change.
In effect, we don't know if the text is going to be "Kermit Ruffins" or
"Yankee Doodle Dandy" or "We believe these truths to be self-evident." All
we know is that we want the first letter to be a lettrine and the
subsequent paragraph not to overlap the lettrine.
Cheers!
> \setuphead[chapter][
> after={\placeinitial\vbox to 1cm{\relax {K{\hskip 2pt \lower 5pt
> \hbox{ermit MUffins \vbox to -0.055cm {\hskip -2.8cm \raise 1pt \hbox{meet
> me at the second
> line}}},
> page=no,
> %]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startchapter[1]
> \stopchapter
>
> \forgetinitial \par
>
> \startchapter[2]
> \input knuth
> \stopchapter
>
> \stoptext
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Protect the lettrine
On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 08:46:59PM -0700, Thangalin via ntg-context wrote:
> Thank you for taking the time to reply, linguafalsa, I appreciate it.
>
> The source document is written in Markdown using KeenWrite, my Markdown
> editor. Inserting typesetting instructions into the document would defeat
> the software's architecture, hence being untenable. After the Markdown is
> transformed into XHTML, a specific theme instructs ConTeXt how to typeset
> the XHTML.
Never heard of it (keenwrite), but your request is indeed, valid all along.
I haven't checked the code that lmtx uses but by just looking at the bare
macros, it seems as if `\forgetplaceinitial` is limited in what it can
and can't do. I think it's reasonable the way it was implemented but
nevertheless this is something that ought to be looked at rather than
ignore it or put aside for later
I didn't see the video, it's distracting, but as I said, is a valid
request on your part
Perhaps `\setuphead` can have such of a feature in the future — that
of different settings for different chapters, and if one exists now,
I'm just simply unaware of, but either way, you're dealing mainly
here with a table and tabskips and whatnot. It seems that there's one
feature for subsubsections, written in lua, but this is entirely different
Even with something as the following I just wouldn't know how to specify
it to apply it concurrently for each particular chapter thereafter and
dissuade it from subsequently applying it to where not otherwise. I just
don't know.
\setuphead[chapter][
after={\placeinitial\vbox to 1cm{\relax {K{\hskip 2pt \lower 5pt \hbox{ermit
MUffins \vbox to -0.055cm {\hskip -2.8cm \raise 1pt \hbox{meet me at the second
line}}},
page=no,
%]
\starttext
\startchapter[1]
\stopchapter
\forgetinitial \par
\startchapter[2]
\input knuth
\stopchapter
\stoptext
>
> Here's a video showing how theme selection works:
>
> https://youtu.be/3QpX70O5S30?list=PLB-WIt1cZYLm1MMx2FBG9KWzPIoWZMKu_=14
>
> I hope this explains the situation more clearly about why changing the code
> between \starttext and \stoptext isn't an option, as you've done with
> introducing and using a macro.
>
> Greets!
take care Tangalin
Carlos
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 7:33 PM linguafalsa--- via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 02:01:14PM -0700, Thangalin via ntg-context wrote:
> > > Thanks Otared,
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, that's adding content between \starttext and \stoptext,
> > > which isn't tenable in my situation. The user is writing in Markdown,
> > which
> > > is automatically converted to XHTML then passed to ConTeXt, and so the
> > > setups need to account for this scenario without modifying the source
> > > document.
> > >
> >
> > Yeah yeah yeah, tenable. A lot of things aren't tenable. Anyhow,
> > What source document are you talking about here?
> >
> > You're already sourcing the lines after chapter one. As a matter of
> > fact, if you weren't sourcing, then you'd have zilch, nada, zero, empty,
> > null, void, an space, a separation, an abstract
> >
> > Just define Kermit Muffins and it should be good to go
> >
> >
> > \setupinitial[n=2]
> >
> > \def\KermitMuffins{\vbox{Kermit Muffins\par\hskip 1.3cm \tfd Meet me at
> > the second line}}
> >
> > \setuphead[chapter][
> > after={\placeinitial},
> > page=no,
> > ]
> >
> > \starttext
> > \chapter{one}
> > \KermitMuffins
> >
> > \chapter{two}
> > \input knuth
> >
> > Meet me at the second line.
> > \stoptext
> >
> >
> >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:30 AM Otared Kavian via ntg-context <
> > > ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Adding \hfill\break to the short line solves the issue, but probably
> > there
> > > > is a better way to achieve the correct result.
> > > >
> > > > \setupinitial[n=2]
> > > >
> > > > \setuphead[chapter][
> > > > after={\placeinitial},
> > > > page=no,
> > > > ]
> > > >
> > > > \starttext
> > > > \chapter{one}
> > > > Kermit Ruffins \hfill\break % <---
> > > >
> > > > Meet me at the second line.
> > > >
> > > > \chapter{two}
> > > > \input knuth
> > > >
> > > > Meet me at the second line.
> > > > \stoptext
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > >
Re: [NTG-context] All NUL files in the Context distribution
Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context writes: > Hi, > > I was looking into the SciTE setup when I found that > tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties > only contained NUL bytes. > > Deleting and reinstalling doesn't fix it. > > I have now checked the other files there and these files seem to have > gotten corrupted at some point. Does anyone have a working copy to > restore them? > > tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties > tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/lexers/scite-context-lexer-web-snippets.lua > tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/start/en/ma-cb-en-commands.tex > > Thanks, Note that they are broken via HTTP: % wget http://lmtx.pragma-ade.com/install-lmtx//tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties % sha1sum scite-context-internal.properties 55a4ba44601c71deb73c0cad41b3632722696a32 scite-context-internal.properties % xxd scite-context-internal.properties : 0010: 0020: 0030: 0040: 0050: ... -- Leah Neukirchenhttps://leahneukirchen.org ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] SOLVED: Fallbacks in text font interfere with math accents
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Re: [NTG-context] All NUL files in the Context distribution
Am 14.06.23 um 17:13 schrieb Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context: Hi, I was looking into the SciTE setup when I found that tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties only contained NUL bytes. Deleting and reinstalling doesn't fix it. I have now checked the other files there and these files seem to have gotten corrupted at some point. Does anyone have a working copy to restore them? tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/lexers/scite-context-lexer-web-snippets.lua tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/start/en/ma-cb-en-commands.tex All these files look good in my installation, will send them to you off-list. current version: 2023.06.04 18:58 Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] All NUL files in the Context distribution
Hi, I was looking into the SciTE setup when I found that tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties only contained NUL bytes. Deleting and reinstalling doesn't fix it. I have now checked the other files there and these files seem to have gotten corrupted at some point. Does anyone have a working copy to restore them? tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/lexers/scite-context-lexer-web-snippets.lua tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/start/en/ma-cb-en-commands.tex Thanks, -- Leah Neukirchenhttps://leahneukirchen.org/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] regular online meet-up
Reminder: this is in a few hours! Looking forward to seeing you again, Hraban Am 09.06.23 um 13:29 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context: You’re invited to join on Wednesday, June 14th, 15:00 CEST (UTC+2) at https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke (same, but shorter: https://v34h.de/ctxmtg) ConTeXt users of all levels are welcome! Next meeting will be on July 12th. (Same blurb as every time:) [Howto] * No special software installation required; most modern browsers should work (WebRTC required). * Open the above URL, accept the privacy statement, * enter your name, * click "join" (or "start" if you’re the first), * click "with microphone", allow your browser to access it, check the audio. * Your microphone is muted if you join. Activate microphone and/or camera with the buttons at the bottom. * Minimize the default presentation with the "screen" button, bottom right. * If you’d like to share your screen or upload a file, you can make yourself the presenter: Click on your user name, change the setting, then you’ll see the "screen sharing" button beside the camera button; also there’s now "manage presentations" behind the "plus" button. Beware there is only one presenter at a time, so don’t kill someone else’s presentation. [Technical hints] * Sound is usually better if you use a headset (less noise for everyone). * Connection problems are mostly due to low bandwidth or high latency on your side, e.g. with mobile connections. * If audio/video doesn’t work for you, you can still use the text chat. * Screen sharing needs a lot of bandwidth. * BigBlueButton documentation applies: https://bigbluebutton.org/teachers/tutorials/ [Netiquette] * Please use a name that we recognize from here. Some feel uncomfortable with anonymous lurkers. * Mute your microphone while you’re not talking. * It’s nice to show your face at least when you join. * If there are connection problems, stop camera sharing. * The room is set to “everyone’s a moderator“, I trust you... See you, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Protect the lettrine
Thank you for taking the time to reply, linguafalsa, I appreciate it.
The source document is written in Markdown using KeenWrite, my Markdown
editor. Inserting typesetting instructions into the document would defeat
the software's architecture, hence being untenable. After the Markdown is
transformed into XHTML, a specific theme instructs ConTeXt how to typeset
the XHTML.
Here's a video showing how theme selection works:
https://youtu.be/3QpX70O5S30?list=PLB-WIt1cZYLm1MMx2FBG9KWzPIoWZMKu_=14
I hope this explains the situation more clearly about why changing the code
between \starttext and \stoptext isn't an option, as you've done with
introducing and using a macro.
Greets!
On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 7:33 PM linguafalsa--- via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 02:01:14PM -0700, Thangalin via ntg-context wrote:
> > Thanks Otared,
> >
> > Unfortunately, that's adding content between \starttext and \stoptext,
> > which isn't tenable in my situation. The user is writing in Markdown,
> which
> > is automatically converted to XHTML then passed to ConTeXt, and so the
> > setups need to account for this scenario without modifying the source
> > document.
> >
>
> Yeah yeah yeah, tenable. A lot of things aren't tenable. Anyhow,
> What source document are you talking about here?
>
> You're already sourcing the lines after chapter one. As a matter of
> fact, if you weren't sourcing, then you'd have zilch, nada, zero, empty,
> null, void, an space, a separation, an abstract
>
> Just define Kermit Muffins and it should be good to go
>
>
> \setupinitial[n=2]
>
> \def\KermitMuffins{\vbox{Kermit Muffins\par\hskip 1.3cm \tfd Meet me at
> the second line}}
>
> \setuphead[chapter][
> after={\placeinitial},
> page=no,
> ]
>
> \starttext
> \chapter{one}
> \KermitMuffins
>
> \chapter{two}
> \input knuth
>
> Meet me at the second line.
> \stoptext
>
>
>
> > Cheers!
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:30 AM Otared Kavian via ntg-context <
> > ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Adding \hfill\break to the short line solves the issue, but probably
> there
> > > is a better way to achieve the correct result.
> > >
> > > \setupinitial[n=2]
> > >
> > > \setuphead[chapter][
> > > after={\placeinitial},
> > > page=no,
> > > ]
> > >
> > > \starttext
> > > \chapter{one}
> > > Kermit Ruffins \hfill\break % <---
> > >
> > > Meet me at the second line.
> > >
> > > \chapter{two}
> > > \input knuth
> > >
> > > Meet me at the second line.
> > > \stoptext
> > >
>
>
>
>
> > >
> > > Best regards: Otared
> > >
> > > On 13 Jun 2023, at 04:43, Thangalin via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm using KeenWrite Themes (specifically, Boschet) to typeset a chapter
> > > wherein the first letter is a lettrine. When the first paragraph is too
> > > short, the second paragraph overlaps the lettrine.
> > >
> > > % SOT
> > > \setupinitial[n=2]
> > >
> > > \setuphead[chapter][
> > > after={\placeinitial},
> > > page=no,
> > > ]
> > >
> > > \starttext
> > > \chapter{one}
> > > Kermit Ruffins
> > >
> > > Meet me at the second line.
> > >
> > > \chapter{two}
> > > \input knuth
> > >
> > > Meet me at the second line.
> > > \stoptext
> > > % EOT
> > >
> > > Produces: https://i.stack.imgur.com/kNDqw.png
> > >
> > > How would you instruct ConTeXt to "protect" the lettrine such that
> > > regardless of whether the first paragraph spans multiple lines, a short
> > > first paragraph will still prevent the second paragraph from
> overlapping
> > > the lettrine?
> > >
> > > That is, the setups should work in both cases, without any knowledge
> about
> > > the first paragraph length being added between \starttext and
> \stoptext.
> > >
> > > ConTeXt LMTX version: 2023.06.04 18:58
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > >
> _______
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> to
> > > the Wiki!
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Re: [NTG-context] Protect the lettrine
On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 02:01:14PM -0700, Thangalin via ntg-context wrote:
> Thanks Otared,
>
> Unfortunately, that's adding content between \starttext and \stoptext,
> which isn't tenable in my situation. The user is writing in Markdown, which
> is automatically converted to XHTML then passed to ConTeXt, and so the
> setups need to account for this scenario without modifying the source
> document.
>
Yeah yeah yeah, tenable. A lot of things aren't tenable. Anyhow,
What source document are you talking about here?
You're already sourcing the lines after chapter one. As a matter of
fact, if you weren't sourcing, then you'd have zilch, nada, zero, empty,
null, void, an space, a separation, an abstract
Just define Kermit Muffins and it should be good to go
\setupinitial[n=2]
\def\KermitMuffins{\vbox{Kermit Muffins\par\hskip 1.3cm \tfd Meet me at
the second line}}
\setuphead[chapter][
after={\placeinitial},
page=no,
]
\starttext
\chapter{one}
\KermitMuffins
\chapter{two}
\input knuth
Meet me at the second line.
\stoptext
> Cheers!
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:30 AM Otared Kavian via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Adding \hfill\break to the short line solves the issue, but probably there
> > is a better way to achieve the correct result.
> >
> > \setupinitial[n=2]
> >
> > \setuphead[chapter][
> > after={\placeinitial},
> > page=no,
> > ]
> >
> > \starttext
> > \chapter{one}
> > Kermit Ruffins \hfill\break % <---
> >
> > Meet me at the second line.
> >
> > \chapter{two}
> > \input knuth
> >
> > Meet me at the second line.
> > \stoptext
> >
> >
> > Best regards: Otared
> >
> > On 13 Jun 2023, at 04:43, Thangalin via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> >
> > I'm using KeenWrite Themes (specifically, Boschet) to typeset a chapter
> > wherein the first letter is a lettrine. When the first paragraph is too
> > short, the second paragraph overlaps the lettrine.
> >
> > % SOT
> > \setupinitial[n=2]
> >
> > \setuphead[chapter][
> > after={\placeinitial},
> > page=no,
> > ]
> >
> > \starttext
> > \chapter{one}
> > Kermit Ruffins
> >
> > Meet me at the second line.
> >
> > \chapter{two}
> > \input knuth
> >
> > Meet me at the second line.
> > \stoptext
> > % EOT
> >
> > Produces: https://i.stack.imgur.com/kNDqw.png
> >
> > How would you instruct ConTeXt to "protect" the lettrine such that
> > regardless of whether the first paragraph spans multiple lines, a short
> > first paragraph will still prevent the second paragraph from overlapping
> > the lettrine?
> >
> > That is, the setups should work in both cases, without any knowledge about
> > the first paragraph length being added between \starttext and \stoptext.
> >
> > ConTeXt LMTX version: 2023.06.04 18:58
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > ___
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> > the Wiki!
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Re: [NTG-context] Protect the lettrine
Here's the output I'm looking to achieve:
https://i.stack.imgur.com/XeZQS.png
Note how the second line honours the lettrine's width and padding, in the
same way that the second line of the first paragraph in Knuth's quote
respects the width and padding.
On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 2:01 PM Thangalin wrote:
> Thanks Otared,
>
> Unfortunately, that's adding content between \starttext and \stoptext,
> which isn't tenable in my situation. The user is writing in Markdown, which
> is automatically converted to XHTML then passed to ConTeXt, and so the
> setups need to account for this scenario without modifying the source
> document.
>
> Cheers!
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:30 AM Otared Kavian via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Adding \hfill\break to the short line solves the issue, but probably
>> there is a better way to achieve the correct result.
>>
>> \setupinitial[n=2]
>>
>> \setuphead[chapter][
>> after={\placeinitial},
>> page=no,
>> ]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \chapter{one}
>> Kermit Ruffins \hfill\break % <---
>>
>> Meet me at the second line.
>>
>> \chapter{two}
>> \input knuth
>>
>> Meet me at the second line.
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> Best regards: Otared
>>
>> On 13 Jun 2023, at 04:43, Thangalin via ntg-context
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm using KeenWrite Themes (specifically, Boschet) to typeset a chapter
>> wherein the first letter is a lettrine. When the first paragraph is too
>> short, the second paragraph overlaps the lettrine.
>>
>> % SOT
>> \setupinitial[n=2]
>>
>> \setuphead[chapter][
>> after={\placeinitial},
>> page=no,
>> ]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \chapter{one}
>> Kermit Ruffins
>>
>> Meet me at the second line.
>>
>> \chapter{two}
>> \input knuth
>>
>> Meet me at the second line.
>> \stoptext
>> % EOT
>>
>> Produces: https://i.stack.imgur.com/kNDqw.png
>>
>> How would you instruct ConTeXt to "protect" the lettrine such that
>> regardless of whether the first paragraph spans multiple lines, a short
>> first paragraph will still prevent the second paragraph from overlapping
>> the lettrine?
>>
>> That is, the setups should work in both cases, without any knowledge
>> about the first paragraph length being added between \starttext and
>> \stoptext.
>>
>> ConTeXt LMTX version: 2023.06.04 18:58
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> ___
>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
>> the Wiki!
>>
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>> wiki : https://contextgarden.net
>>
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>>
>>
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>> e-mail: ota...@gmail.com
>> Phone: +33 6 88 26 70 95
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [NTG-context] Protect the lettrine
Thanks Otared,
Unfortunately, that's adding content between \starttext and \stoptext,
which isn't tenable in my situation. The user is writing in Markdown, which
is automatically converted to XHTML then passed to ConTeXt, and so the
setups need to account for this scenario without modifying the source
document.
Cheers!
On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:30 AM Otared Kavian via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Adding \hfill\break to the short line solves the issue, but probably there
> is a better way to achieve the correct result.
>
> \setupinitial[n=2]
>
> \setuphead[chapter][
> after={\placeinitial},
> page=no,
> ]
>
> \starttext
> \chapter{one}
> Kermit Ruffins \hfill\break % <---
>
> Meet me at the second line.
>
> \chapter{two}
> \input knuth
>
> Meet me at the second line.
> \stoptext
>
>
> Best regards: Otared
>
> On 13 Jun 2023, at 04:43, Thangalin via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> I'm using KeenWrite Themes (specifically, Boschet) to typeset a chapter
> wherein the first letter is a lettrine. When the first paragraph is too
> short, the second paragraph overlaps the lettrine.
>
> % SOT
> \setupinitial[n=2]
>
> \setuphead[chapter][
> after={\placeinitial},
> page=no,
> ]
>
> \starttext
> \chapter{one}
> Kermit Ruffins
>
> Meet me at the second line.
>
> \chapter{two}
> \input knuth
>
> Meet me at the second line.
> \stoptext
> % EOT
>
> Produces: https://i.stack.imgur.com/kNDqw.png
>
> How would you instruct ConTeXt to "protect" the lettrine such that
> regardless of whether the first paragraph spans multiple lines, a short
> first paragraph will still prevent the second paragraph from overlapping
> the lettrine?
>
> That is, the setups should work in both cases, without any knowledge about
> the first paragraph length being added between \starttext and \stoptext.
>
> ConTeXt LMTX version: 2023.06.04 18:58
>
> Thank you!
>
> _______
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
> the Wiki!
>
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>
> ___
>
>
> Otared Kavian
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> Phone: +33 6 88 26 70 95
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] letfrozen?
On 6/13/2023 12:43 PM, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context wrote: Of course. But without that \enabledirective I can redefine the frozen macro at will, as a simple test did show. The crux, however, is that one wants to protect the frozen code always, irrespective of that directive setting. there are several caregories, like primitive, permanent, instance, mutable, immutable and frozen at some point we could deepfreeze them all but in the end that makes no sense because then we can't for instance run tikz so in the end it's mostly about warnings and errors (one can actually distinguish between categories) there's also \overloaded and \aliased and \enforced etc of course you can at some point do \newcount\overloadmode but who can predict side effects (and one can argue that tex is progrmamable and that users get what they ask for) and keep in mind that all should also not hit performance too badly there's quite a bit involved here .. pretty all context commands have some kind of flagging and protection (which also is handy for tracing) You can spent hours playing with prefixes: \frozen \permanent \immutable \mutable %primitive \noaligned \instance \untraced \global \tolerant \protected \overloaded \aliased \immediate \deferred \semiprotected \enforced \inherited \constant if you're in the mood. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] xml nbsp?
is not a pre-defined named character in XML (but it is in HTML which lulls you into a false sense of security). See the link below for some more detail and a fix. <https://coderanch.com/t/322290/java/html-nbsp-braking-space-character> > On 13 Jun 2023, at 11:01, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context > wrote: > > What happened to the non breaking space in XML? It has disappeared in a way. > See the minimal example attached. > > dr. Hans van der Meer > test-nbsp.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document > — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] letfrozen?
Of course. But without that \enabledirective I can redefine the frozen macro at
will, as a simple test did show.
The crux, however, is that one wants to protect the frozen code always,
irrespective of that directive setting.
dr. Hans van der Meer
> On 12 Jun 2023, at 19:47, Hans Hagen via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> On 6/12/2023 12:32 PM, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context wrote:
>>> On 12 Jun 2023, at 11:12, Hans Hagen via ntg-context
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/12/2023 10:57 AM, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context wrote:
>>>> The manual LMTX-primitives on page 21 tells me:
>>>>You can explicitly freeze an unfrozen macro.
>>>>...
>>>>A redefinition will now give: You can't redefine a frozen macro.
>>>> But is this true? The following code seems to contradict this:
>>>> \def\HOME{myhome}
>>>> \writestatus{1}{\meaning\HOME}
>>>> \letfrozen\HOME
>>>> \writestatus{2}{\meaning\HOME}
>>>> \def\HOME{other home}
>>>> \writestatus{3}{\meaning\HOME}
>>>> 
>>>> Is this mechanism broken? It looks so useful to prevent accidental
>>>> redefinition!
>>>
>>> here i run with
>>>
>>> \enabledirectives[overloadmode=error]
>>>
>>> (you can do that in cont-sys.mkxl)
>>>
>>> \enabledirectives[overloadmode=warning]
>>> Hans
>>>
>> Pity. Now I get on loading the tex file:
>> "csname overload > fatal error, protection level 4, control sequence 'nbsp',
>> properties 'immutable', file 't-hvdm-text.tex', line 63
>> while I had hoped that frozen would give me something like:
>> illegal attempt to redefine \HOME
>> Byproduct (not unwanted) the above illegal redefinition to be solved :-)
>> May I ask why obviously the frozen-mechanism seems (yet?) unimplemented?
> It's okay and has been around for quite a while now.
>
> \enabledirectives[overloadmode=error]
>
> \starttext
>
>\frozen\def\HOME{}
>
>\def\HOME{!}
>
> \stoptext
>
>
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[NTG-context] xml nbsp?
What happened to the non breaking space in XML? It has disappeared in a way. See the minimal example attached.dr. Hans van der Meer test-nbsp.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Protect the lettrine
Hi,
Adding \hfill\break to the short line solves the issue, but probably there is a
better way to achieve the correct result.
\setupinitial[n=2]
\setuphead[chapter][
after={\placeinitial},
page=no,
]
\starttext
\chapter{one}
Kermit Ruffins \hfill\break % <---
Meet me at the second line.
\chapter{two}
\input knuth
Meet me at the second line.
\stoptext
Best regards: Otared
> On 13 Jun 2023, at 04:43, Thangalin via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> I'm using KeenWrite Themes (specifically, Boschet) to typeset a chapter
> wherein the first letter is a lettrine. When the first paragraph is too
> short, the second paragraph overlaps the lettrine.
>
> % SOT
> \setupinitial[n=2]
>
> \setuphead[chapter][
> after={\placeinitial},
> page=no,
> ]
>
> \starttext
> \chapter{one}
> Kermit Ruffins
>
> Meet me at the second line.
>
> \chapter{two}
> \input knuth
>
> Meet me at the second line.
> \stoptext
> % EOT
>
> Produces: https://i.stack.imgur.com/kNDqw.png
> <https://i.stack.imgur.com/kNDqw.png>
>
> How would you instruct ConTeXt to "protect" the lettrine such that regardless
> of whether the first paragraph spans multiple lines, a short first paragraph
> will still prevent the second paragraph from overlapping the lettrine?
>
> That is, the setups should work in both cases, without any knowledge about
> the first paragraph length being added between \starttext and \stoptext.
>
> ConTeXt LMTX version: 2023.06.04 18:58
>
> Thank you!
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[NTG-context] Protect the lettrine
I'm using KeenWrite Themes (specifically, Boschet) to typeset a chapter
wherein the first letter is a lettrine. When the first paragraph is too
short, the second paragraph overlaps the lettrine.
% SOT
\setupinitial[n=2]
\setuphead[chapter][
after={\placeinitial},
page=no,
]
\starttext
\chapter{one}
Kermit Ruffins
Meet me at the second line.
\chapter{two}
\input knuth
Meet me at the second line.
\stoptext
% EOT
Produces: https://i.stack.imgur.com/kNDqw.png
How would you instruct ConTeXt to "protect" the lettrine such that
regardless of whether the first paragraph spans multiple lines, a short
first paragraph will still prevent the second paragraph from overlapping
the lettrine?
That is, the setups should work in both cases, without any knowledge about
the first paragraph length being added between \starttext and \stoptext.
ConTeXt LMTX version: 2023.06.04 18:58
Thank you!
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Re: [NTG-context] letfrozen?
On 6/12/2023 12:32 PM, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context wrote:
On 12 Jun 2023, at 11:12, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
On 6/12/2023 10:57 AM, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context wrote:
The manual LMTX-primitives on page 21 tells me:
You can explicitly freeze an unfrozen macro.
...
A redefinition will now give: You can't redefine a frozen macro.
But is this true? The following code seems to contradict this:
\def\HOME{myhome}
\writestatus{1}{\meaning\HOME}
\letfrozen\HOME
\writestatus{2}{\meaning\HOME}
\def\HOME{other home}
\writestatus{3}{\meaning\HOME}

Is this mechanism broken? It looks so useful to prevent accidental redefinition!
here i run with
\enabledirectives[overloadmode=error]
(you can do that in cont-sys.mkxl)
\enabledirectives[overloadmode=warning]
Hans
Pity. Now I get on loading the tex file:
"csname overload > fatal error, protection level 4, control sequence 'nbsp',
properties 'immutable', file 't-hvdm-text.tex', line 63
while I had hoped that frozen would give me something like:
illegal attempt to redefine \HOME
Byproduct (not unwanted) the above illegal redefinition to be solved :-)
May I ask why obviously the frozen-mechanism seems (yet?) unimplemented?
It's okay and has been around for quite a while now.
\enabledirectives[overloadmode=error]
\starttext
\frozen\def\HOME{}
\def\HOME{!}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] TiKz with LMTX
On 6/12/2023 6:49 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 11:57:36PM -0400, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: On Thu, 8 Jun 2023, Jigé via ntg-context wrote: Thanks a lot Aditya. The very simple TikZ example with the cross works. The more complex example with the trigonometric circle from the pgf manual, quoted in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/TikZ , does not compile unless you also comment out or find(n,"pdftex") in line 181 of the mtx-install-modules.lua file before doing mtxrun --script install-modules --install tikz but I could guess that from a: Driver file ``pgfsys-pdftex.def'' not found.. message Ah so tikz uses both drivers. @Hans, so the validate function should be: local function validate(n) return not ( find(n,"latex") what's the point of latex there? -- or find(n,"lualatex") or for that matter this one lualatex too or find(n,"plain") or find(n,"optex") -- or find(n,"luatex") -- or find(n,"pdftex") ) end just getting rid of files we don't need Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TiKz with LMTX
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 11:57:36PM -0400, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jun 2023, Jigé via ntg-context wrote: > > > Thanks a lot Aditya. > > > > The very simple TikZ example with the cross works. > > The more complex example with the trigonometric circle from the pgf manual, > > quoted in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/TikZ , does not compile > > unless you also comment out > > or find(n,"pdftex") > > in line 181 of the mtx-install-modules.lua file > > before doing mtxrun --script install-modules --install tikz > > but I could guess that from a: > > Driver file ``pgfsys-pdftex.def'' not found.. > > message > > Ah so tikz uses both drivers. > > @Hans, so the validate function should be: > > local function validate(n) > return not ( >find(n,"latex") what's the point of latex there? > -- or find(n,"lualatex") or for that matter this one lualatex too > or find(n,"plain") > or find(n,"optex") > -- or find(n,"luatex") > -- or find(n,"pdftex") > ) > end > > > Aditya Through rsync only and by default without mtx-install-modules script, obviously, it'll simply fall back loading by pgfsys-pdftex so you'd be better off by just having local function validate(n) return not ( find(n,"latex") or find(n,"lualatex") or find(n,"plain") or find(n,"optex") -- or find(n,"luatex") or find(n,"pdftex") ) end instead. Also, forget about the curl --ssl or whatever you mentioned earlier. > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ -- Brian Kernighan has an automobile which he helped design. Unlike most automobiles, it has neither speedometer, nor gas gauge, nor any of the numerous idiot lights which plague the modern driver. Rather, if the driver makes any mistake, a giant "?" lights up in the center of the dashboard. "The experienced driver", he says, "will usually know what's wrong." _______ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] letfrozen?
> On 12 Jun 2023, at 11:12, Hans Hagen via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> On 6/12/2023 10:57 AM, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context wrote:
>> The manual LMTX-primitives on page 21 tells me:
>> You can explicitly freeze an unfrozen macro.
>> ...
>> A redefinition will now give: You can't redefine a frozen macro.
>> But is this true? The following code seems to contradict this:
>> \def\HOME{myhome}
>> \writestatus{1}{\meaning\HOME}
>> \letfrozen\HOME
>> \writestatus{2}{\meaning\HOME}
>> \def\HOME{other home}
>> \writestatus{3}{\meaning\HOME}
>> 
>> Is this mechanism broken? It looks so useful to prevent accidental
>> redefinition!
>
> here i run with
>
> \enabledirectives[overloadmode=error]
>
> (you can do that in cont-sys.mkxl)
>
> \enabledirectives[overloadmode=warning]
> Hans
>
Pity. Now I get on loading the tex file:
"csname overload > fatal error, protection level 4, control sequence 'nbsp',
properties 'immutable', file 't-hvdm-text.tex', line 63
while I had hoped that frozen would give me something like:
illegal attempt to redefine \HOME
Byproduct (not unwanted) the above illegal redefinition to be solved :-)
May I ask why obviously the frozen-mechanism seems (yet?) unimplemented?
dr. Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] letfrozen?
On 6/12/2023 10:57 AM, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context wrote:
The manual LMTX-primitives on page 21 tells me:
You can explicitly freeze an unfrozen macro.
...
A redefinition will now give: You can't redefine a frozen macro.
But is this true? The following code seems to contradict this:
\def\HOME{myhome}
\writestatus{1}{\meaning\HOME}
\letfrozen\HOME
\writestatus{2}{\meaning\HOME}
\def\HOME{other home}
\writestatus{3}{\meaning\HOME}

Is this mechanism broken? It looks so useful to prevent accidental redefinition!
here i run with
\enabledirectives[overloadmode=error]
(you can do that in cont-sys.mkxl)
\enabledirectives[overloadmode=warning]
Hans
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[NTG-context] letfrozen?
The manual LMTX-primitives on page 21 tells me:
You can explicitly freeze an unfrozen macro.
...
A redefinition will now give: You can't redefine a frozen macro.
But is this true? The following code seems to contradict this:
\def\HOME{myhome}
\writestatus{1}{\meaning\HOME}
\letfrozen\HOME
\writestatus{2}{\meaning\HOME}
\def\HOME{other home}
\writestatus{3}{\meaning\HOME}

Is this mechanism broken? It looks so useful to prevent accidental redefinition!
dr. Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] setuphead page=right and blank even page.
Alan Braslau schrieb am 11.06.2023 um 20:12:
On 10/06/23 10/06/23, 12:42, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context wrote:
Alan Braslau via ntg-context schrieb am 10.06.2023 um 12:28:
Hello,
\setuphead
[part,chapter,title]
[page=right]
will start a part, chapter, or title on an odd page (right),
inserting a "blank" even page if necessary. How can I get this blank
even page to be truely blank, that is with no headers nor footers?
I tried several thinks and must be missing something really simple
and obvious.
\setuphead [...] [page={yes,header,footer,right}]
Wolfgang
Thank you for this hint. It works (almost) as expected:
Strangely, I had to add, explicitly,
\startfrontmatter
\component FrontMatterStuff
\page[yes,header,footer,right]
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
...
\stopbodymatter
In order to get the frontmatter end with a totally blank page before a
right Chapter 1 header. Using just the setuphead resulted in headers
and footers on the "blank" left page. No problems for Chapters 2, etc.
Section block force by default a page break which can produce unexpected
headers/footers on the first chapter etc.
You can fix this by disabling the page break at the start/end of the
section block with
\setupsectionblock [bodypart] [page=]
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] setuphead page=right and blank even page.
On 10/06/23 10/06/23, 12:42, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context wrote:
Alan Braslau via ntg-context schrieb am 10.06.2023 um 12:28:
Hello,
\setuphead
[part,chapter,title]
[page=right]
will start a part, chapter, or title on an odd page (right), inserting
a "blank" even page if necessary. How can I get this blank even page
to be truely blank, that is with no headers nor footers?
I tried several thinks and must be missing something really simple and
obvious.
\setuphead [...] [page={yes,header,footer,right}]
Wolfgang
Thank you for this hint. It works (almost) as expected:
Strangely, I had to add, explicitly,
\startfrontmatter
\component FrontMatterStuff
\page[yes,header,footer,right]
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
...
\stopbodymatter
In order to get the frontmatter end with a totally blank page before a
right Chapter 1 header. Using just the setuphead resulted in headers and
footers on the "blank" left page. No problems for Chapters 2, etc.
--
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Re: [NTG-context] Fallbacks in text font interfere with math accents
Am 10.06.23 um 19:46 schrieb Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context:
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 10:06 AM Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
wrote:
Hi, this is probably for Hans & Mikael, but maybe someone else has a hint:
If I set a fallback for my body font to catch all missing characters,
some math accents get replaced by small bold uppercase characters (I
found hat by K and ring by T so far).
I tried [fallbacks=] for math to no avail.
My example uses Cambria, but it’s the same with other fonts.
(BTW, in \bar{b} with Libertinus, the bar looks too high.)
I leave the font fallbacks to Hans or somebody else, but for the \bar
one can argue that the "305 glyph in Libertinus Math sits too high.
This is adjusted for in the goodie file in the next upload.
I could fix a few math accents (e.g. widebar) by limiting my
replacements to necessary glyphs, but many other problems remain (e.g.
breve, check, dot, widehat). It also affects the sizing of limiters and
e.g. underbraces.
Why do font fallbacks for non-math fonts affect math at all?
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] Fallbacks in text font interfere with math accents
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 10:06 AM Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
wrote:
>
> Hi, this is probably for Hans & Mikael, but maybe someone else has a hint:
>
> If I set a fallback for my body font to catch all missing characters,
> some math accents get replaced by small bold uppercase characters (I
> found hat by K and ring by T so far).
>
> I tried [fallbacks=] for math to no avail.
>
> My example uses Cambria, but it’s the same with other fonts.
>
> (BTW, in \bar{b} with Libertinus, the bar looks too high.)
I leave the font fallbacks to Hans or somebody else, but for the \bar
one can argue that the "305 glyph in Libertinus Math sits too high.
This is adjusted for in the goodie file in the next upload.
/Mikael
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Re: [NTG-context] setuphead page=right and blank even page.
Alan Braslau via ntg-context schrieb am 10.06.2023 um 12:28:
Hello,
\setuphead
[part,chapter,title]
[page=right]
will start a part, chapter, or title on an odd page (right), inserting
a "blank" even page if necessary. How can I get this blank even page
to be truely blank, that is with no headers nor footers?
I tried several thinks and must be missing something really simple and
obvious.
\setuphead [...] [page={yes,header,footer,right}]
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] setuphead page=right and blank even page.
Hello, \setuphead [part,chapter,title] [page=right] will start a part, chapter, or title on an odd page (right), inserting a "blank" even page if necessary. How can I get this blank even page to be truely blank, that is with no headers nor footers? I tried several thinks and must be missing something really simple and obvious. Thank you. -- Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
