Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
> Am 10.07.2022 um 16:56 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context > : > > Am 10.07.22 um 16:43 schrieb Axel Kielhorn via ntg-context: >>> Thank you – I can’t remember you ever announced that? >> I did in 2018 and in return you send me an early version of your book. > > Ok, it’s been a while. > >>> I quickly looked through it and, of course, found a few things that I >>> didn’t cover yet. > > Looking deeper, I also found a lot of errors. I appreciate your feedback. Please contact me off list. Greetings Axel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
Am 10.07.22 um 16:43 schrieb Axel Kielhorn via ntg-context: Thank you – I can’t remember you ever announced that? I did in 2018 and in return you send me an early version of your book. Ok, it’s been a while. I quickly looked through it and, of course, found a few things that I didn’t cover yet. Looking deeper, I also found a lot of errors. Most of the things in there I learned on this mailing list. Me too. And of course at ConTeXt meetings (hint: https://meeting.contextgarden.net/2022/) Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
> Am 10.07.2022 um 10:22 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context > : > > Am 10.07.22 um 08:36 schrieb Axel Kielhorn via ntg-context: >>> Am 09.07.2022 um 19:27 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context >>> : >>> >>> Tell them there will be a German book next year (I hope...); I’ll send you >>> a link off-list. >> I’m looking forward to your book. >> In the meantime there is a short guide at: >> https://github.com/AKielhorn/Context-Intro > > Thank you – I can’t remember you ever announced that? I did in 2018 and in return you send me an early version of your book. > I quickly looked through it and, of course, found a few things that I didn’t > cover yet. Most of the things in there I learned on this mailing list. Greetings Axel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
On 7/10/2022 8:36 AM, Axel Kielhorn via ntg-context wrote: Am 09.07.2022 um 19:27 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context : Tell them there will be a German book next year (I hope...); I’ll send you a link off-list. I’m looking forward to your book. In the meantime there is a short guide at: https://github.com/AKielhorn/Context-Intro Just for the record: luametatex is *not* optimized for context, it just provides (rather generic) stuff not present in other engines that we can benefit from. That said: of course after decades of context we know what is missing in tex that we could benefit from, and we do. One distinction between luatex and luametatex is that we delegate some more to lua. The reworked math engine is something that is probably very contextisch if only because other macro packages are locked into "chisseled in stone ams (and alike) math as the only thruthful and accepted by publishers way to do it" so there the "optimized" sort of applies, in the sense that we can fully benefit from it as well have extra features that make certain things possible. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
Am 10.07.22 um 08:36 schrieb Axel Kielhorn via ntg-context: Am 09.07.2022 um 19:27 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context : Tell them there will be a German book next year (I hope...); I’ll send you a link off-list. I’m looking forward to your book. In the meantime there is a short guide at: https://github.com/AKielhorn/Context-Intro Thank you – I can’t remember you ever announced that? I quickly looked through it and, of course, found a few things that I didn’t cover yet. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
> Am 09.07.2022 um 19:27 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context > : > > Tell them there will be a German book next year (I hope...); I’ll send you a > link off-list. I’m looking forward to your book. In the meantime there is a short guide at: https://github.com/AKielhorn/Context-Intro Greetings Axel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
On 7/9/2022 9:30 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Am 09.07.22 um 21:16 schrieb Floris van Manen via ntg-context: On 09/07/2022 20:13, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: we need two more for a top-ten = context is not for professionals - context is dutch Only dodos do ConTeXt. that's why dodo's are feattured in the upcoming math manual (among other animals) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
Am 09.07.22 um 21:16 schrieb Floris van Manen via ntg-context: On 09/07/2022 20:13, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: we need two more for a top-ten = context is not for professionals - context is dutch Only dodos do ConTeXt. HR ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
On 09/07/2022 20:13, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: we need two more for a top-ten = context is not for professionals - context is dutch ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
On 7/9/2022 7:49 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Am 09.07.22 um 19:27 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context: Am 09.07.22 um 17:48 schrieb juh+ntg-context--- via ntg-context: My workshop was accepted. What shall I cover? It's a workshop for beginners? - Installation - Hello word What would you cover? Project structure? Style creation? In my experience, most participants will know LaTeX, i.e. you must tell them to forget everything they believe to know about TeX ;P Oh, and don’t tell them that ConTeXt LMTX is much, much faster than any LaTeX, because that’s a secret ;) yes, we need to cherish the persistent myths (because it hides those secrets well) - context is slow - context needs too much memory - context is like plain - context can't do math - context uses a runner for management - context has no documentation - context is not upward compatible - context can't be used in production we need two more for a top-ten Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
Am 09.07.22 um 19:27 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context: Am 09.07.22 um 17:48 schrieb juh+ntg-context--- via ntg-context: My workshop was accepted. What shall I cover? It's a workshop for beginners? - Installation - Hello word What would you cover? Project structure? Style creation? In my experience, most participants will know LaTeX, i.e. you must tell them to forget everything they believe to know about TeX ;P Oh, and don’t tell them that ConTeXt LMTX is much, much faster than any LaTeX, because that’s a secret ;) (On the German list TeX-D-L some are discussing if LuaTeX is better than pdfTeX/XeTeX, and some are complaining that LuaLaTeX is too slow, of course...) HR ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
Am 09.07.22 um 17:48 schrieb juh+ntg-context--- via ntg-context: My workshop was accepted. What shall I cover? It's a workshop for beginners? - Installation - Hello word What would you cover? Project structure? Style creation? In my experience, most participants will know LaTeX, i.e. you must tell them to forget everything they believe to know about TeX ;P – Layout, i.e. \setuppapersize, \setuplayout and \showlayout – Structure, i.e. \startchapter, \startitemize – Images & Floats, i.e. \externalfigure, \startplacefigure Project structure makes sense if you have more than one hour. I think one part will be: Where to find documentation? Yes. Tell them there will be a German book next year (I hope...); I’ll send you a link off-list. I guess your Markdown workflow might interest some. And if you want to join me in the workshop you're welcome! Sorry. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
Am 21.06.22 um 09:37 schrieb juh+ntg-context--- via ntg-context: Thanks a lot for this offer. Due to my hesitation and my holidays I submitted the workshop after the deadline of the FrOSCon CFP so I guess that there won't be a ConTeXt workshop this time. But you never know, often deadlines were extended. I'll keep you updated. My workshop was accepted. What shall I cover? It's a workshop for beginners? - Installation - Hello word What would you cover? Project structure? Style creation? I think one part will be: Where to find documentation? Any hints appreciated. And if you want to join me in the workshop you're welcome! juh ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
Dear Andrej and others, Am 09.06.22 um 13:01 schrieb a badin via ntg-context: It's 4 hours by train for me to Bonn and I'm not sure whether I'm a good candidate to teach people context due to my low skill, but I can surely teach you how to install lmtx on windows if you like (we could call or sth). Thanks a lot for this offer. Due to my hesitation and my holidays I submitted the workshop after the deadline of the FrOSCon CFP so I guess that there won't be a ConTeXt workshop this time. But you never know, often deadlines were extended. I'll keep you updated. juh ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
> From: juh+ntg-cont...@mailbox.org > My main problem is that I never used Windows in my life and have no idea > how to help people with installing lmtx on this platform. > > juh I'm a beginner in context (and not a programmer by profession) and installing lmtx on windows was very easy for me. the steps are on the wiki https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation and it is as easy as it is written there. I've been using context thanks to these installation steps on win 7 and win 10. I'm not sure what the targetgroup at the conference is, but if the people there ever used a commandline, they should be good to go. once you install, you open the commandline using Win+R and then type "cmd". Once in the cmd, you only need to know the command "cd" (change directory) to navigate to the folder where the .tex source is, so e.g. "cd c:\users\x\documents\" and then run "context test.tex". That is the manual way. I use sublimetext as text editor and made a new build for it, that when I press Ctrl+B saves all changes in the open file/folder and runs context on the open file and previews the pdf in mupdf that is zoomed to be 1:1 paper:print on my dpi. It's a bit like TeXworks, just press button and see the pdf, because mupdf automatically overwrites the open pdf without asking. It's 4 hours by train for me to Bonn and I'm not sure whether I'm a good candidate to teach people context due to my low skill, but I can surely teach you how to install lmtx on windows if you like (we could call or sth). Best, Andrej ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
Am 08.06.22 um 07:43 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context: Am 08.06.22 um 07:18 schrieb juh via ntg-context: For the Developer Room we need at least three people willing to attend the whole time at least for one day. If anyone would help me to organize a 2h-Bootstrap Workshop for ConTeXt I would be very happy. Due to my holidays I am only available today and I am unsure if I will have a stable internet connection from tomorrow on. Sorry for the late announcement. Hi Juh, I’d really like to help, since it’s also quite nearby for me, but the date (August 20/21th) is just in the holidays I spent with my children, sorry! Very schade. That would've been fun. ;-) My main problem is that I never used Windows in my life and have no idea how to help people with installing lmtx on this platform. juh ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
Am 08.06.22 um 07:18 schrieb juh via ntg-context: For the Developer Room we need at least three people willing to attend the whole time at least for one day. If anyone would help me to organize a 2h-Bootstrap Workshop for ConTeXt I would be very happy. Due to my holidays I am only available today and I am unsure if I will have a stable internet connection from tomorrow on. Sorry for the late announcement. Hi Juh, I’d really like to help, since it’s also quite nearby for me, but the date (August 20/21th) is just in the holidays I spent with my children, sorry! Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon
Dear all, this year there will be a real life FrOSCon in Bonn Sankt Augustin at the Fachhochschule Rhein-Sieg again. https://www.froscon.org/cfp/cfpapers/ I am considering to submit a workshop to bootstrap people with ConTeXt, but I am not the best one to do this. So I would like to discuss if we as a community can do something. There are several possibilities: 1. Developer Room https://www.froscon.org/cfp/cfprojects/ This is a room where a project can organize their own schedule. They can programme, give talks or workshops. I've done some of these in the recent years together with the Zope/Plone Community, the Python Community or Hostsharing. It was always great fun. 2. Workshop A workshop is scheduled in the main programme of FrOSCon. Duration: 2h. I think that this is a good schedule to bootstrap people with LMTX and for the first hello world steps. 3. Booth I guess that Dante will have a booth as they had the years before. 4. A talk. I am pondering if I should submit a talk about our production at Hostsharing but typesetting does not fit nicely in the main topics of the conference. Deadline is 2022-06-12. For the Developer Room we need at least three people willing to attend the whole time at least for one day. If anyone would help me to organize a 2h-Bootstrap Workshop for ConTeXt I would be very happy. Due to my holidays I am only available today and I am unsure if I will have a stable internet connection from tomorrow on. Sorry for the late announcement. Ciao! juh -- Autoren-Homepage: . http://literatur.hasecke.com Satiren & Essays: . http://www.sudelbuch.de Privater Blog: http://www.hasecke.eu Netzliteratur-Projekt: http://www.generationenprojekt.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
