Re: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file

2021-03-07 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 3/6/21 2:35 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 3/6/2021 1:56 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> [...]
>> The select style could generate from start-identifier and
>> stop-identifier, the result "identifier.pdf".
> \startchapter[reference=whatever,title=foo]
> \stopchapter
> \startchapter[reference=moreover,title=oof]
> \stopchapter
>
> and --pages=whatever,moreover will give you the info you need to call
> context --extra=copy or whatever with the right arguments

Hans,

real-world needs may be complex, such as in the following sample:

 \starttext
  \completecontent
  \dorecurse{3}
   {\startpart
\edef\pn{\recurselevel}
\dorecurse{30}
 {\startchapter\markpage[start-\pn.\recurselevel]
  \dorecurse{\randomnumber{0}{30}}
{\input knuth\par}
 \markpage[stop-\pn.\recurselevel]\stopchapter}
\stoppart}
  \stoptext

This generates a document to be split in 90 individual documents. I
cannot even think in specifying them manually.

It would be very useful to have something similar to:

  context --extra=select --selection=pages oeps --once --autopdf

I hope my explanation is clearer now.

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file

2021-03-06 Thread Hans Hagen

On 3/6/2021 1:56 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

On 3/5/21 11:13 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 3/5/2021 10:38 PM, denis.ma...@ub.unibe.ch wrote:

Thanks for this as well, Hans. Looks promising.
So, this is to select pages or page-ranges for processing?

assuming that you have either marked pages or proper refs for chapters
you can use the reported values and feed them into whatever

i could add something to the select style but i guess then there is no
uniformity in how users do this


Many thanks for the new stuff, Hans.

This could be an approach:

   \starttext
   \completecontent
   \dorecurse{10}
   {\startchapter\markpage[start-\recurselevel]
  \dorecurse{\randomnumber{0}{1000}}
{\input knuth\par}
\markpage[stop-\recurselevel]\stopchapter}
   \stoptext

"start-" and "stop-" could define page ranges when the same identifier
is used.

The select style could generate from start-identifier and
stop-identifier, the result "identifier.pdf".

\startchapter[reference=whatever,title=foo]
\stopchapter
\startchapter[reference=moreover,title=oof]
\stopchapter

and --pages=whatever,moreover will give you the info you need to call 
context --extra=copy or whatever with the right arguments


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Re: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file

2021-03-06 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 3/5/21 11:13 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 3/5/2021 10:38 PM, denis.ma...@ub.unibe.ch wrote:
>> Thanks for this as well, Hans. Looks promising.
>> So, this is to select pages or page-ranges for processing?
> assuming that you have either marked pages or proper refs for chapters
> you can use the reported values and feed them into whatever
>
> i could add something to the select style but i guess then there is no
> uniformity in how users do this

Many thanks for the new stuff, Hans.

This could be an approach:

  \starttext
  \completecontent
  \dorecurse{10}
  {\startchapter\markpage[start-\recurselevel]
 \dorecurse{\randomnumber{0}{1000}}
   {\input knuth\par}
   \markpage[stop-\recurselevel]\stopchapter}
  \stoptext

"start-" and "stop-" could define page ranges when the same identifier
is used.

The select style could generate from start-identifier and
stop-identifier, the result "identifier.pdf".

I think this is a simple approach.

Many thanks for your help,

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Re: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file

2021-03-05 Thread Hans Hagen

On 3/5/2021 10:38 PM, denis.ma...@ub.unibe.ch wrote:

Thanks for this as well, Hans. Looks promising.
So, this is to select pages or page-ranges for processing?
assuming that you have either marked pages or proper refs for chapters 
you can use the reported values and feed them into whatever


i could add something to the select style but i guess then there is no 
uniformity in how users do this


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file

2021-03-05 Thread denis.maier
Thanks for this as well, Hans. Looks promising.
So, this is to select pages or page-ranges for processing?

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Hans Hagen 
> Gesendet: Freitag, 5. März 2021 11:29
> An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) ; ntg-
> cont...@ntg.nl
> Betreff: Re: AW: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file
> 
> On 2/27/2021 6:28 PM, denis.ma...@ub.unibe.ch wrote:
> > It's a book that will be published in two volumes, continually paginated.
> > In the end I need two pdf files, but I thought it might be easier to treat
> them as one volume and just split the files with some external tool
> afterwards.
> >
> > I could also treat them as two individual books, but then I'd have to get 
> > the
> last page number of volume 1 in volume 2.
> In the early days of context (more than 2 decades ago) we had a printer
> where we could inject from different trays and that is why we have a feature
> in context to mark pages (so that directives for printers could be inserted).
> This feature survived / evolved into marked pages.
> 
> You can do this (oeps.tex):
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \chapter[one]{One}
> 
> \markpage[first]  test \page test \page
> \markpage[second] test \page
> 
> \chapter[two]{Two}
> 
> test \page
> \markpage[fourth] test
> 
> \page
> 
> % \doifelsemarkedpage{second}{YES}{NO}
> % \doifelsemarkedpage{fourth}{YES}{NO}
> 
> % \page
> 
> % \doifelsemarkedpage{second}{YES}{NO}
> % \doifelsemarkedpage{fourth}{YES}{NO}
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> So, I was wondering if we can expose that differently.
> 
>  >context --pages oeps
> mtx-context | page : 0001 first
> mtx-context | page : 0003 second
> mtx-context | page : 0005 fourth
> 
>  >context --pages --page=second oeps
> mtx-context | page : 0003 second
> 
>  >context --pages --page=second,fourth oeps
> mtx-context | page : 0003 second
> mtx-context | page : 0005 fourth
> 
> But, as you're talking chapters, a variants (with less overhead) is:
> 
>  >context --pages --list=one,two oeps
> mtx-context | list : 0001 one
> mtx-context | list : 0004 two
> 
> Which of course assumes that you have a reference for the chapters.
> 
> This --pages feature is in the latest upload.
> 
> Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file

2021-03-05 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2/27/2021 6:28 PM, denis.ma...@ub.unibe.ch wrote:

It's a book that will be published in two volumes, continually paginated.
In the end I need two pdf files, but I thought it might be easier to treat them 
as one volume and just split the files with some external tool afterwards.

I could also treat them as two individual books, but then I'd have to get the 
last page number of volume 1 in volume 2.
In the early days of context (more than 2 decades ago) we had a printer 
where we could inject from different trays and that is why we have a 
feature in context to mark pages (so that directives for printers could 
be inserted). This feature survived / evolved into marked pages.


You can do this (oeps.tex):

\starttext

\chapter[one]{One}

\markpage[first]  test \page test \page
\markpage[second] test \page

\chapter[two]{Two}

test \page
\markpage[fourth] test

\page

% \doifelsemarkedpage{second}{YES}{NO}
% \doifelsemarkedpage{fourth}{YES}{NO}

% \page

% \doifelsemarkedpage{second}{YES}{NO}
% \doifelsemarkedpage{fourth}{YES}{NO}

\stoptext

So, I was wondering if we can expose that differently.

>context --pages oeps
mtx-context | page : 0001 first
mtx-context | page : 0003 second
mtx-context | page : 0005 fourth

>context --pages --page=second oeps
mtx-context | page : 0003 second

>context --pages --page=second,fourth oeps
mtx-context | page : 0003 second
mtx-context | page : 0005 fourth

But, as you're talking chapters, a variants (with less overhead) is:

>context --pages --list=one,two oeps
mtx-context | list : 0001 one
mtx-context | list : 0004 two

Which of course assumes that you have a reference for the chapters.

This --pages feature is in the latest upload.

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file

2021-02-28 Thread denis.maier
Oh, another thing I've learned from your example us that \starttext 
...\stoptext can be nested...

Von: Hans Hagen 
Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Februar 2021 19:26:52
An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB); mailing list for ConTeXt users
Betreff: Re: AW: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file

On 2/27/2021 6:28 PM, denis.ma...@ub.unibe.ch wrote:
> It's a book that will be published in two volumes, continually paginated.
> In the end I need two pdf files, but I thought it might be easier to treat 
> them as one volume and just split the files with some external tool 
> afterwards.
>
> I could also treat them as two individual books, but then I'd have to get the 
> last page number of volume 1 in volume 2.
On the console you see the pagenumbers right? What you need is the
realpage. You could actually do something:

\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{tufte}\page}
\appendetoks
 \writestatus{!}{}
 \writestatus{!}{SPLIT HERE: \the\realpageno}
 \writestatus{!}{}
\to \everystoptext
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{tufte}\page}

and then use this number in:

context --extra=select --selection=1:4oeps.pdf --once --autopdf
context --extra=select --selection=5: oeps.pdf --once --autopdf

(We can actually relate tags to pages so maybe I will make something to
  pick that up from the tuc file.)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file

2021-02-27 Thread denis.maier
Thanks, that's helpful. So to automate this, I'll just need to get the 
pagenumbers from the log file. I'll give it a try.

Von: Hans Hagen 
Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Februar 2021 19:26:52
An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB); mailing list for ConTeXt users
Betreff: Re: AW: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file

On 2/27/2021 6:28 PM, denis.ma...@ub.unibe.ch wrote:
> It's a book that will be published in two volumes, continually paginated.
> In the end I need two pdf files, but I thought it might be easier to treat 
> them as one volume and just split the files with some external tool 
> afterwards.
>
> I could also treat them as two individual books, but then I'd have to get the 
> last page number of volume 1 in volume 2.
On the console you see the pagenumbers right? What you need is the
realpage. You could actually do something:

\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{tufte}\page}
\appendetoks
 \writestatus{!}{}
 \writestatus{!}{SPLIT HERE: \the\realpageno}
 \writestatus{!}{}
\to \everystoptext
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{tufte}\page}

and then use this number in:

context --extra=select --selection=1:4oeps.pdf --once --autopdf
context --extra=select --selection=5: oeps.pdf --once --autopdf

(We can actually relate tags to pages so maybe I will make something to
  pick that up from the tuc file.)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file

2021-02-27 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2/27/2021 6:28 PM, denis.ma...@ub.unibe.ch wrote:

It's a book that will be published in two volumes, continually paginated.
In the end I need two pdf files, but I thought it might be easier to treat them 
as one volume and just split the files with some external tool afterwards.

I could also treat them as two individual books, but then I'd have to get the 
last page number of volume 1 in volume 2.
On the console you see the pagenumbers right? What you need is the 
realpage. You could actually do something:


\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{tufte}\page}
\appendetoks
\writestatus{!}{}
\writestatus{!}{SPLIT HERE: \the\realpageno}
\writestatus{!}{}
\to \everystoptext
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{tufte}\page}

and then use this number in:

context --extra=select --selection=1:4oeps.pdf --once --autopdf
context --extra=select --selection=5: oeps.pdf --once --autopdf

(We can actually relate tags to pages so maybe I will make something to 
 pick that up from the tuc file.)


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file

2021-02-27 Thread denis.maier
It's a book that will be published in two volumes, continually paginated.
In the end I need two pdf files, but I thought it might be easier to treat them 
as one volume and just split the files with some external tool afterwards.

I could also treat them as two individual books, but then I'd have to get the 
last page number of volume 1 in volume 2.

Denis

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Hans Hagen 
> Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Februar 2021 18:23
> An: mailing list for ConTeXt users ; Maier, Denis
> Christian (UB) 
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file
> 
> On 2/27/2021 5:58 PM, denis.ma...@ub.unibe.ch wrote:
> 
> > I want to split a PDF produced by context automatically at certain
> > points. I was thinking I could add information about the desired
> > breakpoints to the tuc file, but I don't know how you do this. Any hints?
> Can you define "split"
> 
> Hans
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] Write to tuc file

2021-02-27 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2/27/2021 5:58 PM, denis.ma...@ub.unibe.ch wrote:

I want to split a PDF produced by context automatically at certain 
points. I was thinking I could add information about the desired 
breakpoints to the tuc file, but I don’t know how you do this. Any hints?

Can you define "split"

Hans


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[NTG-context] Write to tuc file

2021-02-27 Thread denis.maier
Hi,
I want to split a PDF produced by context automatically at certain points. I 
was thinking I could add information about the desired breakpoints to the tuc 
file, but I don't know how you do this. Any hints?
Best,
Denis
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