Re: [NTG-context] long quotation without quotation marks
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009, Aditya Mahajan wrote
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, Robert Blackstone wrote:
Hi all,
In a text with some fairly long quotations I want to have these
quotations
without their quotation marks, not indented and set in small type.
To make context ignore indenting of a signle paragraph, use
\noindentation.
delimited text does not offer control of indentation inside the
environment, but offers sufficient hooks to enable manipulation of
indentations.
If you want paragraphs inside the quotation to be indented use the
following (if not, replace noindentation with noindenting)
\definedelimitedtext[LongQuote]
[style={\switchtobodyfont[9pt]},
spacebefore=medium,
before=\noindentation, % also \noindenting,
]
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\starttext
\input ward
\startLongQuote
\input knuth \par
\stopLongQuote
\input ward
\stoptext
Aditya
Thank you Aditya, it helped. It was: before=\noindenting that did what I
wanted.
Surprisingly for me, in the example you gave, before=\noindentation resulted
in no indentation for the first paragraph but the two others were indented.
With before=\noindenting all three paragrapghs were unindented. I really
couldn’t have guessed this.
With some slight changes your example did almost exactly what I had in mind.
(Almost, since in a text like this I would prefer some space between the
paragraphs and I understand that it cannot be adjusted locally.)
Just for the sake of completeness I add it here:
\definedelimitedtext[LongQuote]
[style={\switchtobodyfont[9pt]},
spacebefore=medium,
before=\noindenting
]
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\starttext
\input ward
\startnarrower
\startLongQuote
\input knuth \par
\stopLongQuote
\stopnarrower
\input ward
\stoptext
I have two related questions for the list:
a. Would it be useful to add this information to the ConTeXt wiki page on
Quotes?
b. Is there a complete and up to date list of commands for ConTeXt, and what
they are supposed to do, to be found somewhere? (I find things like the
existence of \noindent, \noindenting and \noindentation, all apparently
giving slightly different results, nice for the variety it offers but, for a
beginner, quite confusing as well.)
Kind regards,
Robert Blackstone
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Re: [NTG-context] long quotation without quotation marks
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Robert Blackstone wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009, Aditya Mahajan wrote
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, Robert Blackstone wrote:
Hi all,
In a text with some fairly long quotations I want to have these
quotations
without their quotation marks, not indented and set in small type.
To make context ignore indenting of a signle paragraph, use
\noindentation.
delimited text does not offer control of indentation inside the
environment, but offers sufficient hooks to enable manipulation of
indentations.
If you want paragraphs inside the quotation to be indented use the
following (if not, replace noindentation with noindenting)
\definedelimitedtext[LongQuote]
[style={\switchtobodyfont[9pt]},
spacebefore=medium,
before=\noindentation, % also \noindenting,
]
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\starttext
\input ward
\startLongQuote
\input knuth \par
\stopLongQuote
\input ward
\stoptext
Aditya
Thank you Aditya, it helped. It was: before=\noindenting that did what I
wanted.
Surprisingly for me, in the example you gave, before=\noindentation resulted
in no indentation for the first paragraph but the two others were indented.
With before=\noindenting all three paragrapghs were unindented. I really
couldn’t have guessed this.
I agree. The naming of the macros isn't the best in this case. The same
result could have been achieved by
\setupindenting[no]
which is slightly easier to understand.
With some slight changes your example did almost exactly what I had in mind.
(Almost, since in a text like this I would prefer some space between the
paragraphs and I understand that it cannot be adjusted locally.)
I wasn't sure whether you wanted all paragraphs to be not be indented or
not, so gave both options.
I have two related questions for the list:
a. Would it be useful to add this information to the ConTeXt wiki page on
Quotes?
Please do add it to the wiki. Searching the wiki is easier than searching
the mailing list.
b. Is there a complete and up to date list of commands for ConTeXt, and what
they are supposed to do, to be found somewhere?
No. The manuals contain most of the information, but they are not
complete. The only *complete* source of information is the source code
(which is well documented). But, once you get the hang of ConTeXt's naming
conventions, you can almost guess what the right key combination should
be.
(I find things like the
existence of \noindent, \noindenting and \noindentation, all apparently
giving slightly different results, nice for the variety it offers but, for a
beginner, quite confusing as well.)
See
http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb29-2/tb92mahajan.pdf
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[NTG-context] long quotation without quotation marks
Hi all,
In a text with some fairly long quotations I want to have these quotations
without their quotation marks, not indented and set in small type.
Thanks to the ConTeXt wiki I found I could fulfill two of the three
requirements by using
\setupdelimitedtext[blockquote][style={\setupbodyfont[9pt]},
and \startblockquote (text of the quotation) \blank \stopblockquote,
but I still get the unwanted indenting.
In the main text I want indenting of the first lines of most new paragraphs,
so I have \setupindenting[20pt,yes] in the preamble, but I do not want it in
the quotations. Placing \noindent at the beginning of the quotation does not
do anything.
As a hack I commented out \setupindenting[20pt,yes] and started every
paragraph I want to indent with ~. That works. But somehow I feel there
must be a more elegant solution, only I can’t find it.
Is there somebody who could help me out?
Thanks in advance.
Robert Blackstone
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Re: [NTG-context] long quotation without quotation marks
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, Robert Blackstone wrote:
Hi all,
In a text with some fairly long quotations I want to have these quotations
without their quotation marks, not indented and set in small type.
Thanks to the ConTeXt wiki I found I could fulfill two of the three
requirements by using
\setupdelimitedtext[blockquote][style={\setupbodyfont[9pt]},
use \switchtobodyfont rather than setupbodyfont.
and \startblockquote (text of the quotation) \blank \stopblockquote,
but I still get the unwanted indenting.
In the main text I want indenting of the first lines of most new paragraphs,
so I have \setupindenting[20pt,yes] in the preamble, but I do not want it in
the quotations. Placing \noindent at the beginning of the quotation does not
do anything.
To make context ignore indenting of a signle paragraph, use
\noindentation.
delimited text does not offer control of indentation inside the
environment, but offers sufficient hooks to enable manipulation of
indentations.
If you want paragraphs inside the quotation to be indented use the
following (if not, replace noindentation with noindenting)
\definedelimitedtext[LongQuote]
[style={\switchtobodyfont[9pt]},
spacebefore=medium,
before=\noindentation, % also \noindenting,
]
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\starttext
\input ward
\startLongQuote
\input knuth \par
\stopLongQuote
\input ward
\stoptext
Aditya
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